International Freedom Coalition (OOC, APPS TEMP CLOSED)

[Valaran]

How is the United States not able to join the IFC, literally the leader of the Free World, but Ardoki -mayaswellbesovietunion- is?

USA is not a PC.
(besides, the Valaran Empire only mentions rl places when other nations do - as far as my canon goes, there is no rl earth or US).

[The Lendol Archipelago]

That'll only make things worse, but y'know, do it anyway, being wrong never stopped anyone before.

If we'd stop having shit shoved down our throats, we wouldnt have to point out the glaring inconsistencies.

There's a difference between pointing out inconsistencies and being a pain.

The blockade only exists to force Ardoki to hand over certain individuals, individuals who he was planning on handing over anyway.

I'm not going to even waste my time with regards to that.

[United States of Devonta]

If we'd stop having shit shoved down our throats, we wouldnt have to point out the glaring inconsistencies.

There's a difference between pointing out inconsistencies and being a pain.

The blockade only exists to force Ardoki to hand over certain individuals, individuals who he was planning on handing over anyway.

I'm not going to even waste my time with regards to that.

I agree a little. But he walked out. So he weren't goimg to give anything.

[Flardania]

How is the United States not able to join the IFC, literally the leader of the Free World, but Ardoki -mayaswellbesovietunion- is?

regardless of the status of Ardoki

1) that nation is not the US, if anything I consider OS the US
2) I agree with the rejection

[Roski]

How is the United States not able to join the IFC, literally the leader of the Free World, but Ardoki -mayaswellbesovietunion- is?

regardless of the status of Ardoki

1) that nation is not the US, if anything I consider OS the US
2) I agree with the rejection

The one thing pointed out there to deny the application is also true in the United States.

[Asigna]

How is the United States not able to join the IFC, literally the leader of the Free World, but Ardoki -mayaswellbesovietunion- is?

I always thought OS was... IFC.

[Emmerian Republic]

If we'd stop having shit shoved down our throats, we wouldnt have to point out the glaring inconsistencies.

There's a difference between pointing out inconsistencies and being a pain.

The blockade only exists to force Ardoki to hand over certain individuals, individuals who he was planning on handing over anyway.

I'm not going to even waste my time with regards to that.

Individuals like dictators, terrorists, or anyone who is making a threat to international security?

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

Speaking of threats to international security...hi.

So I wanted to inform you that IFC is now considered a major threat to the Ralkovian Empire; as such we'll unofficially be pivoting our attention to the dismantling of the IFC and it's affiliates. We'll be raising the cost of your ongoing and future operations in terms of casualties, treasure, and material. We won't be stopping you or dedicating large forces to defeating you, but we will supply advanced weaponry and PMC to your opponents. And initiate attacks on ongoing IFC and affiliates operations, Lib-Aus(<3) has earned you this extraordinary honor.

[Valaran]

Speaking of threats to international security...hi.

So I wanted to inform you that IFC is now considered a major threat to the Ralkovian Empire; as such we'll unofficially be pivoting our attention to the dismantling of the IFC and it's affiliates. We'll be raising the cost of your ongoing and future operations in terms of casualties, treasure, and material. We won't be stopping you or dedicating large forces to defeating you, but we will supply advanced weaponry and PMC to your opponents. And initiate attacks on ongoing IFC and affiliates operations, Lib-Aus(<3) has earned you this extraordinary honor.

Hey - thanks for the notification

Will this policy have been announced or otherwise common knowledge ICly? I ask as I saw you mention it as 'unofficial' Ralkovian policy in the Bluewell thread, and that might mean that this is conducted without our awareness.

And might I ask whether this policy extends to non-alliance operations conducted by member states?

[Great Feng]

Might get to work with a videogame developer soon.
Though I'll be working for free, by choice.


Anyway, how is the situation at the moment guys?

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

Speaking of threats to international security...hi.

So I wanted to inform you that IFC is now considered a major threat to the Ralkovian Empire; as such we'll unofficially be pivoting our attention to the dismantling of the IFC and it's affiliates. We'll be raising the cost of your ongoing and future operations in terms of casualties, treasure, and material. We won't be stopping you or dedicating large forces to defeating you, but we will supply advanced weaponry and PMC to your opponents. And initiate attacks on ongoing IFC and affiliates operations, Lib-Aus(<3) has earned you this extraordinary honor.

Hey - thanks for the notification

Will this policy have been announced or otherwise common knowledge ICly? I ask as I saw you mention it as 'unofficial' Ralkovian policy in the Bluewell thread, and that might mean that this is conducted without our awareness.

And might I ask whether this policy extends to non-alliance operations conducted by member states?

I largely haven't decided yet. I'm leaning towards it being undeclared, but you would obviously have figured it out when all of your enemies start getting hold of Ralkovian Weaponry. I think I'm aiming for plausible deniability.

Yes, for sure. However, this policy will only extend to your weaker members. (OOC info of course) Ideally, I want to increase the cost of cooperation with your weakest members; causing strain between them and your larger members. Of course, if you need weapons for your rebels or rebels in general, feel free to TG with what you need, and I'll be glad to provide. I've dedicated a few trillion dollars to this pivot.

[Ardoki]

There's a difference between pointing out inconsistencies and being a pain.

The blockade only exists to force Ardoki to hand over certain individuals, individuals who he was planning on handing over anyway.

I'm not going to even waste my time with regards to that.

I agree a little. But he walked out. So he weren't goimg to give anything.

I was going to hand them over anyway.

However, if Ardoki is expelled from the IFC it would be very politically hard for us to do that (our people and government would feel betrayed by an IFC they think hates them); so, we'd have to attempt holding the trial ourselves (which I would prefer not to do, for several reasons, but I might be left with no choice).

[Valaran]

Anyway, how is the situation at the moment guys?

Arguably, tension is winding down somewhat.

I largely haven't decided yet. I'm leaning towards it being undeclared, but you would obviously have figured it out when all of your enemies start getting hold of Ralkovian Weaponry. I think I'm aiming for plausible deniability.

Yes, for sure. However, this policy will only extend to your weaker members. (OOC info of course) Ideally, I want to increase the cost of cooperation with your weakest members; causing strain between them and your larger members. Of course, if you need weapons for your rebels or rebels in general, feel free to TG with what you need, and I'll be glad to provide. I've dedicated a few trillion dollars to this pivot.

Fair enough.

Speaking just for myself in this matter, this nation doesn't have too much in the way of rebels outside of certain colonies (though they're rather isolated, and while tensions are bubbling underneath the surface, I wasn't planning on any rps in them just now). However, I imagine that the IFC will sooner or later intervene somewhere, which would be a perfect opportunity raise enforcement costs for our operations. Actually this one might be a suitable RP for your purposes then - New Roma is a former IFC member, and I think the IFC will be pursuing its interests as the nation experience turmoil (maybe TG New Roma about this?).

[Shazbotdom]

I agree a little. But he walked out. So he weren't goimg to give anything.

I was going to hand them over anyway.

However, if Ardoki is expelled from the IFC it would be very politically hard for us to do that (our people and government would feel betrayed by an IFC they think hates them); so, we'd have to attempt holding the trial ourselves (which I would prefer not to do, for several reasons, but I might be left with no choice).

The resolution that was set for expulsion was edited so that it no longer is for expulsion.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

Anyway, how is the situation at the moment guys?

Arguably, tension is winding down somewhat.

I largely haven't decided yet. I'm leaning towards it being undeclared, but you would obviously have figured it out when all of your enemies start getting hold of Ralkovian Weaponry. I think I'm aiming for plausible deniability.

Yes, for sure. However, this policy will only extend to your weaker members. (OOC info of course) Ideally, I want to increase the cost of cooperation with your weakest members; causing strain between them and your larger members. Of course, if you need weapons for your rebels or rebels in general, feel free to TG with what you need, and I'll be glad to provide. I've dedicated a few trillion dollars to this pivot.

Fair enough.

Speaking just for myself in this matter, this nation doesn't have too much in the way of rebels outside of certain colonies (though they're rather isolated, and while tensions are bubbling underneath the surface, I wasn't planning on any rps in them just now). However, I imagine that the IFC will sooner or later intervene somewhere, which would be a perfect opportunity raise enforcement costs for our operations. Actually this one might be a suitable RP for your purposes then - New Roma is a former IFC member, and I think the IFC will be pursuing its interests as the nation experience turmoil (maybe TG New Roma about this?).

Yep. As to your rebels, I'll happily arm them in the interim. Ralkovia, as one of the largest human traffickers in the World, arguably has a very strong distribution network present world-wide.

I'll message him.

If you have any new ideas you guys would want to work out with me, I'm also game.

[Emmerian Republic]

Arguably, tension is winding down somewhat.


Fair enough.

Speaking just for myself in this matter, this nation doesn't have too much in the way of rebels outside of certain colonies (though they're rather isolated, and while tensions are bubbling underneath the surface, I wasn't planning on any rps in them just now). However, I imagine that the IFC will sooner or later intervene somewhere, which would be a perfect opportunity raise enforcement costs for our operations. Actually this one might be a suitable RP for your purposes then - New Roma is a former IFC member, and I think the IFC will be pursuing its interests as the nation experience turmoil (maybe TG New Roma about this?).

Yep. As to your rebels, I'll happily arm them in the interim. Ralkovia, as one of the largest human traffickers in the World, arguably has a very strong distribution network present world-wide.

I'll message him.

If you have any new ideas you guys would want to work out with me, I'm also game.

Are you threatening to declare war?

[Valaran]

Yep. As to your rebels, I'll happily arm them in the interim. Ralkovia, as one of the largest human traffickers in the World, arguably has a very strong distribution network present world-wide.

I'll message him.

If you have any new ideas you guys would want to work out with me, I'm also game.

I imagine it will be a small scale matter, at least for now.

I see if I have any more ideas by tomorrow - bit too tired to have any right now.

Are you threatening to declare war?

Ah, not quite. Ralk is stating that his nation will conduct indirect hostilities with the IFC and its members (outlined a few posts above), mostly to increase the 'enforcement costs' of any IFC operations.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

Yep. As to your rebels, I'll happily arm them in the interim. Ralkovia, as one of the largest human traffickers in the World, arguably has a very strong distribution network present world-wide.

I'll message him.

If you have any new ideas you guys would want to work out with me, I'm also game.

Are you threatening to declare war?

Not quite yet. Merely increasing the strain on your alliance. With Aus's attack on my ships, Ralkovia has realized that the IFC represents an immediate danger to Ralkovian Power in the World. It will immediately begin operations to increase your cost in casualties, treasure, diplomatic effort, and material. I'll be arming your opposition with advanced weaponry, providing training, and hiring PMCs and pirates to harass your ships and bases on foreign lands, specifically targeting your weaker members to increase domestic dissonance with the alliance, while maintaining plausible deniability.

Once you've been weakened, then Ralkovia would move to attack.

Also, I'm going to invade Pillowlandia, to pillage his pillows.

[Valaran]

Incidentally Ralk, I take it there's no chance the Valarans can attempt to convince your nation otherwise about the threat posed by the IFC? I'm fine with IC diplomacy failing and all, but I'm wondering whether the (Valaran) Empire would have made the attempt to open some kind of dialogue (e: be this in Bluewell or elsewhere) once we discovered Ralkovian policy.

[Emmerian Republic]

Are you threatening to declare war?

Not quite yet. Merely increasing the strain on your alliance. With Aus's attack on my ships, Ralkovia has realized that the IFC represents an immediate danger to Ralkovian Power in the World. It will immediately begin operations to increase your cost in casualties, treasure, diplomatic effort, and material. I'll be arming your opposition with advanced weaponry, providing training, and hiring PMCs and pirates to harass your ships and bases on foreign lands, specifically targeting your weaker members to increase domestic dissonance with the alliance, while maintaining plausible deniability.

Once you've been weakened, then Ralkovia would move to attack.

Also, I'm going to invade Pillowlandia, to pillage his pillows.

Basically, that sounds alot like trying to strain the relations with IFc before openly declare war. This would be considered an act of war.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

Incidentally Ralk, I take it there's no chance the Valarans can attempt to convince your nation otherwise about the threat posed by the IFC? I'm fine with IC diplomacy failing and all, but I'm wondering whether the (Valaran) Empire would have made the attempt to open some kind of dialogue (e: be this in Bluewell or elsewhere) once we discovered Ralkovian policy.

I'd be open. Specifically, Ralkovia considers Aus to be the main anti-Ralkovian in the IFC, and if you have an Emperor or Empress that'd be a huge bonus in your favor, because of Ralkovia's general reluctance to fight other Empires.

Not quite yet. Merely increasing the strain on your alliance. With Aus's attack on my ships, Ralkovia has realized that the IFC represents an immediate danger to Ralkovian Power in the World. It will immediately begin operations to increase your cost in casualties, treasure, diplomatic effort, and material. I'll be arming your opposition with advanced weaponry, providing training, and hiring PMCs and pirates to harass your ships and bases on foreign lands, specifically targeting your weaker members to increase domestic dissonance with the alliance, while maintaining plausible deniability.

Once you've been weakened, then Ralkovia would move to attack.

Also, I'm going to invade Pillowlandia, to pillage his pillows.

Basically, that sounds alot like trying to strain the relations with IFc before openly declare war. This would be considered an act of war.

You'd have to find out first.

[Pillowlandia]

Also, I'm going to invade Pillowlandia, to pillage his pillows.

Get out me Pillow!

Just when I thought the Pillowlandian mainland might get to experience a couple of decades of true political and economic stability.

if you have an Emperor or Empress that'd be a huge bonus in your favor, because of Ralkovia's general reluctance to fight other Empires.

Well, if it's any help one of the primary nations of my commonwealth has an Emperor

[New Aeyariss]

And I wonder how I shall exploit it...


Carry on.

[Great Feng]

Also, I'm going to invade Pillowlandia, to pillage his pillows.

Get out me Pillow!

Just when I thought the Pillowlandian mainland might get to experience a couple of decades of true political and economic stability.

You're at war with Feng though.
Btw I moved my capital to Kyoto, with my China capital being Beijing.

[Emmerian Republic]

Get out me Pillow!

Just when I thought the Pillowlandian mainland might get to experience a couple of decades of true political and economic stability.

You're at war with Feng though.
Btw I moved my capital to Kyoto, with my China capital being Beijing.

Since when?