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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:19 pm
by Inyourfaceistan
Ardoki wrote:You've probably heard of Inyursta legalising cocaine exports to foreign countries (he has singled out developed/western countries): http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=349296


I didn't single out developed western nations, I just interviewed a character who pointed out the (RL) fact that the most consumption of the drug comes from those nations, while the production largely comes from Latin America, as well as minor crops in other tropical regions.

I think this is a direct attack against the citizens of other nations. Inyursta is basically legalising illegal smuggling of prohibited drugs into countries, where they cause much crime and physical/emotional/mental harm (such as death)


Nah. We are basically saying it's not our problem if a certain socio-ethnic class wants to kill themselves with some toxic white powder that makes them feel good temporarily.

as well as tearing apart families, damaging the health systems and putting people in prison.


Never thought I would see the day when Ardoki claims himself a champion of defending families, preserving health systems and acting like putting people in prison was something he is against...
:rofl:

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:49 pm
by Flardania
Torrumbarry wrote:
Flardania wrote:It is temporarily me until I transfer the password to OS, at that point we will decided hopefully to have a few trusted people with the account so this doesn't happen again.


Elected officials?

It is not for me to decide

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:06 pm
by Ardoki
Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Ardoki wrote:You've probably heard of Inyursta legalising cocaine exports to foreign countries (he has singled out developed/western countries): http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=349296


I didn't single out developed western nations, I just interviewed a character who pointed out the (RL) fact that the most consumption of the drug comes from those nations, while the production largely comes from Latin America, as well as minor crops in other tropical regions.

Okay. Can I just ask, will you permit export to countries where cocaine is an illegal substance?
That is all I want to know.

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I think this is a direct attack against the citizens of other nations. Inyursta is basically legalising illegal smuggling of prohibited drugs into countries, where they cause much crime and physical/emotional/mental harm (such as death)


Nah. We are basically saying it's not our problem if a certain socio-ethnic class wants to kill themselves with some toxic white powder that makes them feel good temporarily.

Are you permitting the export to countries where it is permitted? Is an attempt to export/smuggle it to such a state a criminal offence?

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Ardoki wrote:as well as tearing apart families, damaging the health systems and putting people in prison.


Never thought I would see the day when Ardoki claims himself a champion of defending families, preserving health systems and acting like putting people in prison was something he is against...
:rofl:

We defend families stridently, we have a universal healthcare system, and we try to avoid people being sent to prison whenever possible.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:42 am
by Organized States
So after days of intensive work in Spanish, English Lit, and Calculus, I hath returned!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:58 am
by Menavolos
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International Freedom Coalition
Admissions Department,
500 Zavra Avenue,
International Freedom Coalition Headquarters,
Musrum, Bratislav


IFC Admissions Application


National Information
Formal Nation Name: The People's Republic of Menavolos
Shortened Nation Name: Menavolos
Demonym: Menavolonian
Capital city: Menavania
National Population (RP): 8 Million +
Form of Government: Communist Dictatorship/Communist Democracy
Is your Government by the people? (exercised either directly or through elected representatives): Yes, Directly
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): LEFT
Head of State: The Great President Vince Racho
Head of Government: Premier Ian Melan
Economic System: Reconstructing
Currency: Menoes
Exchange Rate to NSD: 56.00
Major Exports: Meat, Minerals and Computers
Major Imports: Grain, Minerals and Gold
Language: English
Very Brief History of your nation: It was founded in 1921 at the wake of the Treaty of Versailes but the Communist Revolution happened in 1989 at the 'Spring of Nations'.
Map: (Optional)
IIwiki page link (If you have one):

Political and Civil Rights and Freedoms
Does your nation have
Freedom of thought: Yes
Freedom of belief (religion): No, Roman Catholicism Only
Freedom of expression: No
Freedom of the media: State only.
Freedom of peaceful assembly: No
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Warsaw Pact and Edhelgaer States Union only.
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: no
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes
Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Politburo only votes for the President but the People vote for Politburo Offices.
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: No.
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: No.
Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability):No.

Foreign Relations and Military Statistics
What other military alliances are you a part of? (UL, SCP, SACTO, etc.): Warsaw Pact
What other non-military organizations are you a part of? (ISA, UPA, etc.) ISHR,IATA
Foreign Policy: Non-Cooperative Agressive Nation.
Number of active military personnel (RP): 1,000,000
Number of reserve military personnel (RP): 2,000,000
Nuclear Arsenal (if any): 2 Nukes
Name of Military: The Peoples Liberation Force
Branches of Military: The Peoples Ground Force, The Peoples Rafts, The Peoples Wings.
RP example (required - can be anything from a short paragraph on this form to a link to an RP example on another thread):As the armies march towards the Front, Thousands of Azenyanistanis working in the Peoples Republic of Menavolos were Executed by the Peoples Guard. This would affect the Menavolonian GDP but President Vince wants to Ensure the Peoples Safety. The 850,000 Troops of the United Forces of Menavolos gathered to march towards the Front. The Arrival time would be 2 days.

Delegate to the IFC Council Information
Name: John Van Derek
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Biography (optional, but highly encouraged):
Education (optional): Major in Politics
Reason for your nation desiring to join the IFC: We want to Help free our Communist Brethren.
Do you hereby agree to abide by the terms and conditions set forth by the IFC's Charter?: Yes
Signed: Vince Racho
Signature: _____________________________

August 5,2015
Date:_______________________

**IFCAPP**

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:10 am
by New Roma Republic
Organized States wrote:So after days of intensive work in Spanish, English Lit, and Calculus, I hath returned!

Heh, that sounds a bit like my schedule for school :p
Welcome back OS!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:18 am
by Organized States
Menavolos is denied on account of having insufficient civil and personal liberties.

Kogashi and The Goryevdre Islands are accepted.

If the OP could be updated, that'd be great. :D

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:36 am
by United States of Devonta
United States Of Devonta wrote:
I, Joseph Donald, Delegate to this Coalition from the nation of the United States of Devonta do hereby make the following contributions to the Blue Cross Humanitarian Aid Corps of the International Freedom Coalition:

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:37 am
by Organized States
United States Of Devonta wrote:
United States Of Devonta wrote:
I, Joseph Donald, Delegate to this Coalition from the nation of the United States of Devonta do hereby make the following contributions to the Blue Cross Humanitarian Aid Corps of the International Freedom Coalition:

Update this in there as well, please.

Condemnation

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:07 am
by Menavolos
The People's Republic of Menavolos Denounces the IFC stating that this Coalition is nothing more than Liberal Pantie Traders.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:20 am
by Torrumbarry
Menavolos wrote:The People's Republic of Menavolos Denounces the IFC stating that this Coalition is nothing more than Liberal Pantie Traders.


Erm, okay matey...

A part of me wants to grab a crucifix and shout "BEGONE, HERETIC!"

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:42 am
by Shazbotdom
Menavolos wrote:The People's Republic of Menavolos Denounces the IFC stating that this Coalition is nothing more than Liberal Pantie Traders.

The Shazbotdom Ambassador to the IFC stands up, "Does it look like we care what your pissant little nation thinks? Be gone, young one, before you learn of how you will be destroyed."




OOC:
Sorry, I just had to. :)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:48 am
by Krjder
Menavolos wrote:The People's Republic of Menavolos Denounces the IFC stating that this Coalition is nothing more than Liberal Pantie Traders.


The Krïdan empire guffaws at the proletariat smudge on the world map that is Menavolos. At least we can trade because our economies exist.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:28 am
by United States of Conner
Menavolos wrote:The People's Republic of Menavolos Denounces the IFC stating that this Coalition is nothing more than Liberal Pantie Traders.

"First off, you're wrong. Second off, I'll take some of those panties, if any of you have them."

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:38 am
by New Chilokver
Menavolos wrote:The People's Republic of Menavolos Denounces the IFC stating that this Coalition is nothing more than Liberal Pantie Traders.

teh karlaeshist meritokrasi of chicklover declares n00klear war on menavolos
k
u can go now

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:55 am
by New Aeyariss
Menavolos wrote:The People's Republic of Menavolos Denounces the IFC stating that this Coalition is nothing more than Liberal Pantie Traders.


I might have been enemigos with IFC long ago, but seeing that you are communist....

You just messed with wrong alliance ;).

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:59 am
by United States of Conner
New Aeyariss wrote:
Menavolos wrote:The People's Republic of Menavolos Denounces the IFC stating that this Coalition is nothing more than Liberal Pantie Traders.


I might have been enemigos with IFC long ago, but seeing that you are communist....

You just messed with wrong alliance ;).

Join us.

One of us one of us one of us one of us one of us etc

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:08 am
by Centro-Progressive Peoples Entity
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International Freedom Coalition
Admissions Department,
500 Zavra Avenue,
International Freedom Coalition Headquarters,
Musrum, Bratislav


IFC Admissions Application


National Information
Formal Nation Name:
Shortened Nation Name: CPPE, The Entity
Demonym: Brick
Capital city: N/A
National Population (RP): 1.131 billion
Form of Government: Socialist Democracy, Technocratic Sociocracy
Is your Government by the people? (exercised either directly or through elected representatives): Yes.
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): Far Left
Head of State: All 1.131 billion are the head of state
Head of Government: See (Head of State)
Economic System: Socialism
Currency: (ABOLISHED CURRENCY)
Exchange Rate to NSD: N/A
Major Exports: Information Technology, scientific equipment
Major Imports: Thorium, other raw materials
Language: Official: Ab. Most Spoken: Russian/English
Very Brief History of your nation: Founded through civil strife, The Entity was born for the People.
Map: (Optional)
IIwiki page link (If you have one):

Political and Civil Rights and Freedoms
Does your nation have
Freedom of thought: Yes
Freedom of belief (religion): Yes
Freedom of expression: Yes
Freedom of the media: Yes
Freedom of peaceful assembly: Yes
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Yes
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes
Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Yes
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Yes
Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability): Yes

Foreign Relations and Military Statistics
What other military alliances are you a part of? (UL, SCP, SACTO, etc.): None.
What other non-military organizations are you a part of? (ISA, UPA, etc.) None
Foreign Policy: Overwhelming Pacifism
Number of active military personnel (RP): 0
Number of reserve military personnel (RP): 0
Nuclear Arsenal (if any): 0
Name of Military: No Military (abolished)
Branches of Military:
RP example (required - can be anything from a short paragraph on this form to a link to an RP example on another thread): I've done RP for about seven months now, in regions from TCB to one in Iwaku.

Delegate to the IFC Council Information
Name: Pavel Furmanov
Age: 15
Gender: Male
Biography (optional, but highly encouraged):
Education (optional): Highly advanced, he's beginning his attendance of the National Institute of Physics and Engineering
Reason for your nation desiring to join the IFC: To preserve the freedom of the People and to experiment in world government
Do you hereby agree to abide by the terms and conditions set forth by the IFC's Charter?: Yes
Signature: The Entity
Date:5.8.15

**IFCAPP**

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:52 am
by Inyourfaceistan
Centro-Progressive Peoples Entity wrote:
International Freedom Coalition
Admissions Department,
500 Zavra Avenue,
International Freedom Coalition Headquarters,
Musrum, Bratislav


IFC Admissions Application


National Information
Formal Nation Name:
Shortened Nation Name: CPPE, The Entity
Demonym: Brick
Capital city: N/A
National Population (RP): 1.131 billion
Form of Government: Socialist Democracy, Technocratic Sociocracy
Is your Government by the people? (exercised either directly or through elected representatives): Yes.
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): Far Left
Head of State: All 1.131 billion are the head of state
Head of Government: See (Head of State)
Economic System: Socialism
Currency: (ABOLISHED CURRENCY)
Exchange Rate to NSD: N/A
Major Exports: Information Technology, scientific equipment
Major Imports: Thorium, other raw materials
Language: Official: Ab. Most Spoken: Russian/English
Very Brief History of your nation: Founded through civil strife, The Entity was born for the People.
Map: (Optional)
IIwiki page link (If you have one):

Political and Civil Rights and Freedoms
Does your nation have
Freedom of thought: Yes
Freedom of belief (religion): Yes
Freedom of expression: Yes
Freedom of the media: Yes
Freedom of peaceful assembly: Yes
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Yes
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes
Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Yes
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Yes
Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability): Yes

Foreign Relations and Military Statistics
What other military alliances are you a part of? (UL, SCP, SACTO, etc.): None.
What other non-military organizations are you a part of? (ISA, UPA, etc.) None
Foreign Policy: Overwhelming Pacifism
Number of active military personnel (RP): 0
Number of reserve military personnel (RP): 0
Nuclear Arsenal (if any): 0
Name of Military: No Military (abolished)
Branches of Military:
RP example (required - can be anything from a short paragraph on this form to a link to an RP example on another thread): I've done RP for about seven months now, in regions from TCB to one in Iwaku.

Delegate to the IFC Council Information
Name: Pavel Furmanov
Age: 15
Gender: Male
Biography (optional, but highly encouraged):
Education (optional): Highly advanced, he's beginning his attendance of the National Institute of Physics and Engineering
Reason for your nation desiring to join the IFC: To preserve the freedom of the People and to experiment in world government
Do you hereby agree to abide by the terms and conditions set forth by the IFC's Charter?: Yes
Signature: The Entity
Date:5.8.15

**IFCAPP**


How does your economy even work if it has no money?

And why are you appointing a 15 year old as a delegate?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:54 am
by Krjder
Centro-Progressive Peoples Entity wrote:
International Freedom Coalition
Admissions Department,
500 Zavra Avenue,
International Freedom Coalition Headquarters,
Musrum, Bratislav


IFC Admissions Application


National Information
Formal Nation Name:
Shortened Nation Name: CPPE, The Entity
Demonym: Brick
Capital city: N/A
National Population (RP): 1.131 billion
Form of Government: Socialist Democracy, Technocratic Sociocracy
Is your Government by the people? (exercised either directly or through elected representatives): Yes.
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): Far Left
Head of State: All 1.131 billion are the head of state
Head of Government: See (Head of State)
Economic System: Socialism
Currency: (ABOLISHED CURRENCY)
Exchange Rate to NSD: N/A
Major Exports: Information Technology, scientific equipment
Major Imports: Thorium, other raw materials
Language: Official: Ab. Most Spoken: Russian/English
Very Brief History of your nation: Founded through civil strife, The Entity was born for the People.
Map: (Optional)
IIwiki page link (If you have one):

Political and Civil Rights and Freedoms
Does your nation have
Freedom of thought: Yes
Freedom of belief (religion): Yes
Freedom of expression: Yes
Freedom of the media: Yes
Freedom of peaceful assembly: Yes
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Yes
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes
Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Yes
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Yes
Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability): Yes

Foreign Relations and Military Statistics
What other military alliances are you a part of? (UL, SCP, SACTO, etc.): None.
What other non-military organizations are you a part of? (ISA, UPA, etc.) None
Foreign Policy: Overwhelming Pacifism
Number of active military personnel (RP): 0
Number of reserve military personnel (RP): 0
Nuclear Arsenal (if any): 0
Name of Military: No Military (abolished)
Branches of Military:
RP example (required - can be anything from a short paragraph on this form to a link to an RP example on another thread): I've done RP for about seven months now, in regions from TCB to one in Iwaku.

Delegate to the IFC Council Information
Name: Pavel Furmanov
Age: 15
Gender: Male
Biography (optional, but highly encouraged):
Education (optional): Highly advanced, he's beginning his attendance of the National Institute of Physics and Engineering
Reason for your nation desiring to join the IFC: To preserve the freedom of the People and to experiment in world government
Do you hereby agree to abide by the terms and conditions set forth by the IFC's Charter?: Yes
Signature: The Entity
Date:5.8.15

**IFCAPP**


I- I don't even... what..? There are so many weird things there...

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:15 am
by New Roma Republic
Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Centro-Progressive Peoples Entity wrote:
International Freedom Coalition
Admissions Department,
500 Zavra Avenue,
International Freedom Coalition Headquarters,
Musrum, Bratislav


IFC Admissions Application


National Information
Formal Nation Name:
Shortened Nation Name: CPPE, The Entity
Demonym: Brick
Capital city: N/A
National Population (RP): 1.131 billion
Form of Government: Socialist Democracy, Technocratic Sociocracy
Is your Government by the people? (exercised either directly or through elected representatives): Yes.
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): Far Left
Head of State: All 1.131 billion are the head of state
Head of Government: See (Head of State)
Economic System: Socialism
Currency: (ABOLISHED CURRENCY)
Exchange Rate to NSD: N/A
Major Exports: Information Technology, scientific equipment
Major Imports: Thorium, other raw materials
Language: Official: Ab. Most Spoken: Russian/English
Very Brief History of your nation: Founded through civil strife, The Entity was born for the People.
Map: (Optional)
IIwiki page link (If you have one):

Political and Civil Rights and Freedoms
Does your nation have
Freedom of thought: Yes
Freedom of belief (religion): Yes
Freedom of expression: Yes
Freedom of the media: Yes
Freedom of peaceful assembly: Yes
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Yes
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes
Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Yes
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Yes
Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability): Yes

Foreign Relations and Military Statistics
What other military alliances are you a part of? (UL, SCP, SACTO, etc.): None.
What other non-military organizations are you a part of? (ISA, UPA, etc.) None
Foreign Policy: Overwhelming Pacifism
Number of active military personnel (RP): 0
Number of reserve military personnel (RP): 0
Nuclear Arsenal (if any): 0
Name of Military: No Military (abolished)
Branches of Military:
RP example (required - can be anything from a short paragraph on this form to a link to an RP example on another thread): I've done RP for about seven months now, in regions from TCB to one in Iwaku.

Delegate to the IFC Council Information
Name: Pavel Furmanov
Age: 15
Gender: Male
Biography (optional, but highly encouraged):
Education (optional): Highly advanced, he's beginning his attendance of the National Institute of Physics and Engineering
Reason for your nation desiring to join the IFC: To preserve the freedom of the People and to experiment in world government
Do you hereby agree to abide by the terms and conditions set forth by the IFC's Charter?: Yes
Signature: The Entity
Date:5.8.15

**IFCAPP**


How does your economy even work if it has no money?

And why are you appointing a 15 year old as a delegate?


Hahahaha, someone's been watching too much Star Trek (and that's coming from me). It seems like his economy is post scarcity, which is nowhere near possible in MT, especially in a nation his size.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:23 am
by Krjder
New Roma Republic wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:
How does your economy even work if it has no money?

And why are you appointing a 15 year old as a delegate?


Hahahaha, someone's been watching too much Star Trek (and that's coming from me). It seems like his economy is post scarcity, which is nowhere near possible in MT, especially in a nation his size.


They're probably like 1700s tech...

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:28 am
by Kogashi
Organized States wrote:Kogashi and The Goryevdre Islands are accepted.

Whoo!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:20 am
by Flardania
Kogashi wrote:
Organized States wrote:Kogashi and The Goryevdre Islands are accepted.

Whoo!

Kirishima welcomes you

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:45 am
by Ontorisa
H-H-Hey, y-y-y-y'all got anymore of t-t-t-them, n-n-n-new I-IFC t-t-threads?