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by The United Remnants of America » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:19 pm

by Asigna » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:21 pm
The United Remnants of America wrote:I await the beginning of the SACTO-Asigna War.
Actually, I've been awaiting this for, like... A while.

by Flardania » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:35 pm
Deian salazar wrote:Asigna wrote:
I am armed with 500 nuclear and biological weapons and i am not afraid to use it.![]()
Not saying i will use it though. If i do, the enemy will likely retaliate with quadruple the firepower. And Nukes are no fun.
I'll also be fighting you.
New Aeyariss: If we defeat Asigna, can we split the land? I just want some coastline and a few ports.

by Asigna » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:39 pm
Deian salazar wrote:Asigna wrote:
I am armed with 500 nuclear and biological weapons and i am not afraid to use it.![]()
Not saying i will use it though. If i do, the enemy will likely retaliate with quadruple the firepower. And Nukes are no fun.
I'll also be fighting you.
New Aeyariss: If we defeat Asigna, can we split the land? I just want some coastline and a few ports.


by Flardania » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:41 pm


by The United Remnants of America » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:42 pm


by The United Remnants of America » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:50 pm

by Flardania » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:53 pm
Deian salazar wrote:Flardania wrote:I'm not acting anything, I'm just stating I ICly will not standby as Feng expands closer to my borders.
Well I'm sorry, but I won't stop increasing Feng power because you are butthurt about me becoming more than a nation you guys can push around and force to do your bidding using the power of fear.
So, deal with it.

by Asigna » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:55 pm
Deian salazar wrote:The United Remnants of America wrote:Oh my God.
SACTO-Asigna War.
IFC-Feng War.
2016 is going to be a busy year for II.
All I want is some coast and some ports from Asigna so I can have a greater range for my commercial fleets so they can land in Feng controlled territory. This will also make long distance voyages more manageable as well, and increase trade.

by Asigna » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:59 pm
Deian salazar wrote:Flardania wrote:I ICly don't care if your nation doesn't want to get pushed around or not. OOCLY I know you know history so you should know going the route of expansionist is going to hit some local opposition.
Edit: You mean the ports where my trade currently flows in right.
No. Just some ports where Feng ships can go through so they can go through peacefully.
Feng is only expanding because Asigna is in a position that blocks Feng trade to some allies, and thus Feng is interested in capturing some ports so Feng ships can land there, and restock and be protected by Feng troops and transports.
Feng's interests are purely commercial.


by Libraria and Ausitoria » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:01 pm
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by Asigna » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:03 pm
Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Feng, please hold your fire 'till after elections.

by Asigna » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:06 pm
Deian salazar wrote:
It would be null if relations between Feng and SACTO soured, which, given that I find Nihon to be unpredictable and I'm sure that relations could possibly sour between nations enough to get rid of the agreement, and as such Feng wants to ensure that it can get it's trade through even if relations became cold. Also, Feng wants some of the native resources so it can boost the empire's income.
Also, Feng is extremely-Anti Asigna as well, so regardless, Feg will get involved in an attempt to strike Asigna out of spite.
Mainly due to the government in power, as it is not to Feng interests for that government to remain in power.
Death to the enemies!
by Libraria and Ausitoria » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:12 pm
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by Flardania » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:15 pm
Deian salazar wrote:Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Way to sabotage it...?
Anyway, thanks. Always nice to know Novo Wagondia and I haven't lost our touch, with SACTO members backing and now yours. Majorities are won from the centre and all that.
I.e. do calm down for the moment Feng, it's worth waiting to see the opinion of important powers before engaging in capturing bases. Last year Ausitoria neglected to do that the last time they annexed a small island and the results were almost catastrophic. Communication is key.
Oh, I'm calm. I just was stating my stuff on the matter, and I am not angry at all.
It's hard to tell when I'm angry unless I'm cussing at you or being an asshole.

by Asigna » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:16 pm


by The United Remnants of America » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:24 pm
Asigna wrote:Deian salazar wrote:It would be null if relations between Feng and SACTO soured, which, given that I find Nihon to be unpredictable and I'm sure that relations could possibly sour between nations enough to get rid of the agreement, and as such Feng wants to ensure that it can get it's trade through even if relations became cold. Also, Feng wants some of the native resources so it can boost the empire's income.
Also, Feng is extremely-Anti Asigna as well, so regardless, Feg will get involved in an attempt to strike Asigna out of spite.
Mainly due to the government in power, as it is not to Feng interests for that government to remain in power.
Anyone who is an enemy of the bayan is an enemy of humanist progress!![]()
Death to the enemies!

by The United Remnants of America » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:26 pm

by Flardania » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:28 pm
Deian salazar wrote:The United Remnants of America wrote:See. If I'm not cursing or being an asshole, then it means I'm probably at the very least a little pissed. Also WH40K memes and references are my go-to for shenanigans.
Only because emoticons are too mainstream.
Just because I'm no longer in Atlas doesn't mean my stance on purging the imperialist Feng heretics doesn't follow me.
*Sigh*
It's lonely in the middle...

by The United Remnants of America » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:29 pm

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by Ardoki » Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:03 pm
Krjder wrote:Ardoki wrote:As long as the government cares for its people (progressive social policies and social democratic economics), democracy is unnecessary.
However Ardoki is technically a democracy (with no electoral fraud), despite having the rules favour the ruling party greatly.
Democracy is necessary if you want to be considered a civilised western nation. Krjder uses direct democracy', whereby the Krïdan people elect people directly into their offices. Krjder, as a result doesn't have partisan politics, which in turn has its benefits and drawbacks. People also get to vote on ANY bill that the government try to pass. Citizens may also call for bills to be created or released if they get enough signatures to their appeal.
That's Krïdan democracy for you, by the people and for the people.

by The United Remnants of America » Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:24 pm
Ardoki wrote:Krjder wrote:
Democracy is necessary if you want to be considered a civilised western nation. Krjder uses direct democracy', whereby the Krïdan people elect people directly into their offices. Krjder, as a result doesn't have partisan politics, which in turn has its benefits and drawbacks. People also get to vote on ANY bill that the government try to pass. Citizens may also call for bills to be created or released if they get enough signatures to their appeal.
That's Krïdan democracy for you, by the people and for the people.
I generally support democracy. However I understand that sometimes it is best if democracy is guided and regulated; for the greater good.
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