International Freedom Coalition (OOC, APPS TEMP CLOSED)

[Aravea]

I apologize yet again for my extended absence, but the health problems persisted for longer than I expected. Regardless. I am pleased to announce that I will be makig a full return to NS within the next two days.

[Asigna]

He was a traitor through and through... His execution has nothing to do with freedom or democracy...

There is nothing to stop a news outlet from publishing things which are not 100% true.

Kedjer is right. Democracy and freedom can sometimes become overrated.

DEATH TO THE TRAITORS!

[The United Remnants of America]

Ladies and Gents, I present to you REC

Death to the REC!

[Ardoki]

There is nothing to stop a news outlet from publishing things which are not 100% true.

Kedjer is right. Democracy and freedom can sometimes become overrated.

DEATH TO THE TRAITORS!

It's propaganda against the IFC, which is seen as a threat (because they don't respect Ardoki enough).

[Krjder]

There is nothing to stop a news outlet from publishing things which are not 100% true.

Kedjer is right. Democracy and freedom can sometimes become overrated.

DEATH TO THE TRAITORS!

I never said it is overrated, I just said that it's irrelevant to Cospájio's trial and subsequent execution.

[Inyourfaceistan]

There is nothing to stop a news outlet from publishing things which are not 100% true.

Kedjer is right. Democracy and freedom can sometimes become overrated.

DEATH TO THE TRAITORS!

I feel like this is the sentiment of too many people.

Them: "OMG democracy is so good! U need democracy!"
Me: *Votes people and policies into power which they don't like*
Them: "Democracy is overrated. Really it should be called mobocracy"

[Ardoki]

Kedjer is right. Democracy and freedom can sometimes become overrated.

DEATH TO THE TRAITORS!

I feel like this is the sentiment of too many people.

Them: "OMG democracy is so good! U need democracy!"
Me: *Votes people and policies into power which they don't like*
Them: "Democracy is overrated. Really it should be called mobocracy"

As long as the government cares for its people (progressive social policies and social democratic economics), democracy is unnecessary.

However Ardoki is technically a democracy (with no electoral fraud), despite having the rules favour the ruling party greatly.

[Krjder]

I feel like this is the sentiment of too many people.

Them: "OMG democracy is so good! U need democracy!"
Me: *Votes people and policies into power which they don't like*
Them: "Democracy is overrated. Really it should be called mobocracy"

As long as the government cares for its people (progressive social policies and social democratic economics), democracy is unnecessary.

However Ardoki is technically a democracy (with no electoral fraud), despite having the rules favour the ruling party greatly.

Democracy is necessary if you want to be considered a civilised western nation. Krjder uses direct democracy', whereby the Krïdan people elect people directly into their offices. Krjder, as a result doesn't have partisan politics, which in turn has its benefits and drawbacks. People also get to vote on ANY bill that the government try to pass. Citizens may also call for bills to be created or released if they get enough signatures to their appeal.

That's Krïdan democracy for you, by the people and for the people.

[New Aeyariss]

Democracy is necessary if you want to be considered a civilised western nation. Krjder uses direct democracy', whereby the Krïdan people elect people directly into their offices. Krjder, as a result doesn't have partisan politics, which in turn has its benefits and drawbacks. People also get to vote on ANY bill that the government try to pass. Citizens may also call for bills to be created or released if they get enough signatures to their appeal.

That's Krïdan democracy for you, by the people and for the people.

Good thing that Nihon does not even aspire to be the underlined thing .

But yeah, Nihon works in a bit similar way. Although there are parties in Nihon, they are working more as a think - tanks; and most elections are local.

[Asigna]

As long as the government cares for its people (progressive social policies and social democratic economics), democracy is unnecessary.

However Ardoki is technically a democracy (with no electoral fraud), despite having the rules favour the ruling party greatly.

Democracy is necessary if you want to be considered a civilised western nation. Krjder uses direct democracy', whereby the Krïdan people elect people directly into their offices. Krjder, as a result doesn't have partisan politics, which in turn has its benefits and drawbacks. People also get to vote on ANY bill that the government try to pass. Citizens may also call for bills to be created or released if they get enough signatures to their appeal.

That's Krïdan democracy for you, by the people and for the people.

Ughhh... Death to western imperialist dogs and MABUHAY!!!

[New Aeyariss]

Democracy is necessary if you want to be considered a civilised western nation. Krjder uses direct democracy', whereby the Krïdan people elect people directly into their offices. Krjder, as a result doesn't have partisan politics, which in turn has its benefits and drawbacks. People also get to vote on ANY bill that the government try to pass. Citizens may also call for bills to be created or released if they get enough signatures to their appeal.

That's Krïdan democracy for you, by the people and for the people.

Ughhh... Death to western imperialist dogs and MABUHAY!!!

Heh when Asigna is accepting everything that is Western in the eyes of the Nihonese .

[Asigna]

Ughhh... Death to western imperialist dogs and MABUHAY!!!

Heh when Asigna is accepting everything that is Western in the eyes of the Nihonese .

No, the goal of he Asigna party is a revival of pre colonial Malay culture.

10 Reasons Why Life Was Better In Pre-Colonial Philippines

[New Aeyariss]

Heh when Asigna is accepting everything that is Western in the eyes of the Nihonese .

No, the goal of he Asigna party is a revival of pre colonial Malay culture.

10 Reasons Why Life Was Better In Pre-Colonial Philippines

Goal of the Kokuminkai is: spiritual regeneration of Nihon.

Now this has to be said, Nihonese have an idea that there is a concept of "Nihonese soul" - a concept developed from Tanzist philosophy that there is "Nihonese spirit" (Nihon-Damashi) being a set of values, mentality and rules that guide Nihonese society. In modern days, the Nihon-Damashii is constituted of: Kogyokist Christianity, Post - Asuka Jidai Bushido tradition, and Tanzist Philosphy.

It happened many times that Nihonese were never afraid to borrow elements from the west that are consistent with Nihonese soul - such as technology, or social mechanisms like Common Law. Still however, they see what Asigna party promotes as western - liberal in nature, and hidden tool of European colonizers who want to prevent Filipinos development into post - colonial society and thus full answer to the Europe on socio - ideological level by fusing them with liberal - European values and social organization methods.

[Asigna]

No, the goal of he Asigna party is a revival of pre colonial Malay culture.

10 Reasons Why Life Was Better In Pre-Colonial Philippines

Goal of the Kokuminkai is: spiritual regeneration of Nihon.

Now this has to be said, Nihonese have an idea that there is a concept of "Nihonese soul" - a concept developed from Tanzist philosophy that there is "Nihonese spirit" (Nihon-Damashi) being a set of values, mentality and rules that guide Nihonese society. In modern days, the Nihon-Damashii is constituted of: Kogyokist Christianity, Post - Asuka Jidai Bushido tradition, and Tanzist Philosphy.

It happened many times that Nihonese were never afraid to borrow elements from the west that are consistent with Nihonese soul - such as technology, or social mechanisms like Common Law. Still however, they see what Asigna party promotes as western - liberal in nature, and hidden tool of European colonizers who want to prevent Filipinos development into post - colonial society and thus full answer to the Europe on socio - ideological level by fusing them with liberal - European values and social organization methods.

Ironically, the bayan sees SACTO as the quintessence of archaic western ideals like Christianity as trying to assert itself in the eastern world once more.

[New Aeyariss]

Ironically, the bayan sees SACTO as the quintessence of archaic western ideals like Christianity as trying to assert itself in the eastern world once more.

Well - this is leading to a clash, isn't it?

Pretty violent one I think...

[Asigna]

Ironically, the bayan sees SACTO as the quintessence of archaic western ideals like Christianity as trying to assert itself in the eastern world once more.

Well - this is leading to a clash, isn't it?

Pretty violent one I think...

No. Just pointing out the ironies. ICilly speaking. I have no reason to fight over this nationstates OOCilly dude.

[New Aeyariss]

Well - this is leading to a clash, isn't it?

Pretty violent one I think...

No. Just pointing out the ironies. ICilly speaking. I have no reason to fight over this nationstates OOCilly dude.

OOCly, I am not Nihon. And I am from Eastern Europe .

[Inyourfaceistan]

As long as the government cares for its people (progressive social policies and social democratic economics), democracy is unnecessary.

However Ardoki is technically a democracy (with no electoral fraud), despite having the rules favour the ruling party greatly.

Democracy is necessary if you want to be considered a civilized western nation. Krjder uses direct democracy', whereby the Krïdan people elect people directly into their offices. Krjder, as a result doesn't have partisan politics, which in turn has its benefits and drawbacks. People also get to vote on ANY bill that the government try to pass. Citizens may also call for bills to be created or released if they get enough signatures to their appeal.

That's Krïdan democracy for you, by the people and for the people.

Eww gross...

But tbh that's really kind of the same system Inyursta has minus the partisanism (to be fair a good portion is against the political party system) and the flamboyant, uber-patriotic anti-monarchist rhetoric spewed by just about everyone.

Ughhh... Death to western imperialist dogs and MABUHAY!!!

Quoth the biggest sell-out to Neo-Western pseudo-culture and one of the biggest imperialists on NS II - keep in mind you ACTUALLY HAVE COLONIES not to mention the running around forcing progressivism and other filth ideologies on people...

Ironically, the bayan sees SACTO as the quintessence of archaic western ideals like Christianity as trying to assert itself in the eastern world once more.

So despite the traditional Asian, Arabic, Latin American and Eastern European ideals along with the fact we have Muslims and Agnostics in high positions in our ranks; our entire broad-spectrum alliance is Christian and Western because?

And your Nordic-model social "democracy" fused with a little bit too much Nazi regalia trying to enforce your post-enlightenment Euro-progressive views on everybody is definitely the defenders of Philipino culture?

*mindfuck*

[New Aeyariss]

So despite the traditional Asian, Arabic, Latin American and Eastern European ideals along with the fact we have Muslims and Agnostics in high positions in our ranks; our entire broad-spectrum alliance is Christian and Western because?

And your Nordic-model social "democracy" fused with a little bit too much Nazi regalia trying to enforce your post-enlightenment Euro-progressive views on everybody is definitely the defenders of Philipino culture?

Not to mention that IC wise, first war Chosokame no Yorimoto (a Kogyokist Christian) fought as Shogun of Nihon was with Spanish Empire and their Jesuit - backed Roman Catholic Diamyos from Rokkaku clan. There is reason why Roman Catholicism is unpopular at Nihon today.

Christianity only gotten so well in Nihon because Emperor Kogyoku "Nihonized" it.

But shhh IYF... you are an evil fascist, remember .

[Krjder]

So despite the traditional Asian, Arabic, Latin American and Eastern European ideals along with the fact we have Muslims and Agnostics in high positions in our ranks; our entire broad-spectrum alliance is Christian and Western because?

And your Nordic-model social "democracy" fused with a little bit too much Nazi regalia trying to enforce your post-enlightenment Euro-progressive views on everybody is definitely the defenders of Philipino culture?

Not to mention that IC wise, first war Chosokame no Yorimoto (a Kogyokist Christian) fought as Shogun of Nihon was with Spanish Empire and their Jesuit - backed Roman Catholic Diamyos from Rokkaku clan. There is reason why Roman Catholicism is unpopular at Nihon today.

But shhh IYF... you are an evil fascist, remember .

Krïdan Empire is
42% Roman Catholic
34% Krïdan Catholic (basically same thing, other than we don't follow the pope since large tracts of land that are now most of northern Krjder were collectively excommunicated in 1247 after a war)
18% Buddhist
4% Muslim
2% Atheist or other

Krïdan Catholicism is the State religion for the empire, but several nations within the empire a officially other if they have a majority of non-KCs, e.g. Kekëtaar is officially Muslim and Konćjew officially Roman Catholic.

[Asigna]

Democracy is necessary if you want to be considered a civilized western nation. Krjder uses direct democracy', whereby the Krïdan people elect people directly into their offices. Krjder, as a result doesn't have partisan politics, which in turn has its benefits and drawbacks. People also get to vote on ANY bill that the government try to pass. Citizens may also call for bills to be created or released if they get enough signatures to their appeal.

That's Krïdan democracy for you, by the people and for the people.

Eww gross...

But tbh that's really kind of the same system Inyursta has minus the partisanism (to be fair a good portion is against the political party system) and the flamboyant, uber-patriotic anti-monarchist rhetoric spewed by just about everyone.

Ughhh... Death to western imperialist dogs and MABUHAY!!!

Quoth the biggest sell-out to Neo-Western pseudo-culture and one of the biggest imperialists on NS II - keep in mind you ACTUALLY HAVE COLONIES not to mention the running around forcing progressivism and other filth ideologies on people...

Ironically, the bayan sees SACTO as the quintessence of archaic western ideals like Christianity as trying to assert itself in the eastern world once more.

So despite the traditional Asian, Arabic, Latin American and Eastern European ideals along with the fact we have Muslims and Agnostics in high positions in our ranks; our entire broad-spectrum alliance is Christian and Western because?

And your Nordic-model social "democracy" fused with a little bit too much Nazi regalia trying to enforce your post-enlightenment Euro-progressive views on everybody is definitely the defenders of Philipino culture?

*mindfuck*

We believe east Asia is inherently liberal.

Eh. New Aey. Are you really encouraging this kind of poisonous behavior amongst your members? This is not good OOCilly you know.

[Inyourfaceistan]

But shhh IYF... you are an evil fascist, remember .

Ah yes, of course. Because naturally fascists love nothing more than almost unregulated capitalism paired with near direct democracy.
*nods*

Eh. New Aey. Are you really encouraging this kind of poisonous behavior amongst your members? This is not good OOCilly you know.

> Implying that Cusc has total control of what all SACTO members do and say

Yes, because pointing out the guy with a Neo-Western puppet ideology who loves to shove that ideology down other people's throats and has LITERAL COLONIES is also the same guy shouting "death to the western imperialists" is totally "poisonous behavior" and "not good OOC'lly"...

[Asigna]

But shhh IYF... you are an evil fascist, remember .

Ah yes, of course. Because naturally fascists love nothing more than almost unregulated capitalism paired with near direct democracy.
*nods*

Eh. New Aey. Are you really encouraging this kind of poisonous behavior amongst your members? This is not good OOCilly you know.

> Implying that Cusc has total control of what all SACTO members do and say

Yes, because pointing out the guy with a Neo-Western puppet ideology who loves to shove that ideology down other people's throats and has LITERAL COLONIES is also the same guy shouting "death to the western imperialists" is totally "poisonous behavior" and "not good OOC'lly"...

Oh it is on.

[Inyourfaceistan]

Oh it is on.

Was there supposed to be something more to that?

Because I'm just shaking in my boots...

[Asigna]

Oh it is on.

Was there supposed to be something more to that?

Because I'm just shaking in my boots...

Ah no. Because i'm just here, trying to be the responsible NS user, avoiding taking seriousness in mundane IC affairs for OOC conflicts...