[TWI Only] Senate of The Western Isles

[Tuernia]

Seconded

The motion carries. Voting on the Criminal Code (2015) will now commence.

I vote aye.

[Dashgrinaar]

Seconded

The motion carries. Voting on the Criminal Code (2015) will now commence.

I vote aye.

Aye

[Tuernia]

The bill passed by a vote of 2-1-0.

We will now begin First Reading of the Second Formatting and Procedures Amendment.

Second Formatting and Procedures Amendment (2015)

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An Act to amend the Formatting and Procedures Act (2015)

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Amendments

(1) Section "Definitions," is amended thusly:

"(1) “Act of the Senate” is defined as any legislation passed by the Senate of the Western Isles.

(2) "Resolution" is defined as either:
a) a non-binding measure used to express the approval or disapproval of the Senate on any subject, or otherwise comment on an issue.
b) a measure to exercise a binding power of the Senate that is not a law-making power.

(3) “Bill” is defined as any piece of legislation under the consideration of the Senate, prior to passage."

(4) The following format shall be added to the Section "Standard Formats."

Code: Select all

[box][align=center][size=150][b]Short Title (Year)[/b][/size][ hr]
[i]Long Title “A Resolution to etc.”[/i][/align][ hr]

[b][i]Section Heading[/i][/b]

(1)

(2)
a)
b)[/box]

[Vancouvia]

Nights Edge is now a Senator

[Dashgrinaar]

Format looks fine. I think we should add labels to the code section, but that is a Second Reading comment. I move to proceed to the Second Reading, and Tuernia, what does a resolution do? Can you clarify for us?

[Tuernia]

Nights Edge is now a Senator

Wonderful. I look forward to his participation.

Format looks fine. I think we should add labels to the code section, but that is a Second Reading comment. I move to proceed to the Second Reading, and Tuernia, what does a resolution do? Can you clarify for us?

I second the motion. Now that we have 4 Senators we'll have to wait for another one.

In the meantime, what labels do you mean?

As the act says, resolutions are used for pretty much everything other than making laws. We have other powers, or may make other powers, that don't just relate to laws. Resolutions can be used to express the Senate's opinion, or do things other than laws. For instance, if we had passed the Order of the Senate act, a resolution would've been used to award it.

[Dashgrinaar]

Nights Edge is now a Senator

Wonderful. I look forward to his participation.

Format looks fine. I think we should add labels to the code section, but that is a Second Reading comment. I move to proceed to the Second Reading, and Tuernia, what does a resolution do? Can you clarify for us?

I second the motion. Now that we have 4 Senators we'll have to wait for another one.

In the meantime, what labels do you mean?

As the act says, resolutions are used for pretty much everything other than making laws. We have other powers, or may make other powers, that don't just relate to laws. Resolutions can be used to express the Senate's opinion, or do things other than laws. For instance, if we had passed the Order of the Senate act, a resolution would've been used to award it.

Ok, thanks.

By labels, I mean put labels above the code, so we know which one each is for.

[Doppler]

It seems we only have one real thing to consider in this bill, whether we want to press forward with the maximum punishments.

I think we should. I believe the power to set punishments resides with the Senate, the court has the power to determine if a person is guilty of a crime, and what punishment they deserve out of a range we prescribe.

Traditionally legislatures have had the power to determine the punishments for crimes, and I beleive we retain that right.

If you agree, I motion to vote, barring any ideas for additions or improvements.

Can i see the bill please?

[Nights Edge]

Motion to move to second reading is seconded.

Also, glad to be a part of the Senate now.

[Dashgrinaar]

Motion to move to second reading is seconded.

Also, glad to be a part of the Senate now.

We're glad to have you!!!

[Tuernia]

Motion to move to second reading is seconded.

Also, glad to be a part of the Senate now.

Welcome! The motion carries, we're now in Second Reading.

Can i see the bill please?

It's on the last page.

[Doppler]

The choice on if they get banned or not, is that up to justice?

[Nights Edge]

The choice on if they get banned or not, is that up to justice?

The justices appear to be the ones who choose the punishment for the particular crime as the court deems fit, assuming it falls under the maximum limit set in the bill.

[Tuernia]

The choice on if they get banned or not, is that up to justice?

The justices appear to be the ones who choose the punishment for the particular crime as the court deems fit, assuming it falls under the maximum limit set in the bill.

That is correct.

[Doppler]

alright i second to vote

[Dashgrinaar]

alright i second to vote

Seconded, but I believe Doppler was motioning...

[Tuernia]

alright i second to vote

Seconded, but I believe Doppler was motioning...

I second as well. With two seconds the motion passes. We're now voting on the Second Formatting and Procedures Amendment.

I vote aye.

[Doppler]

alright i second to vote

Seconded, but I believe Doppler was motioning...

Sorry i though some one seconded before me.

I vote aye

[Nights Edge]

No complaints, so I vote aye

[Dashgrinaar]

I vote Aye

[Tuernia]

By a vote of 4-0-0, the act passes.

To my knowledge there are currently no other bills waiting in the docket.

[Doppler]

So now this is a bill that can change the face of the region. We should tell the region and have this implemented into the constitution.

[Tuernia]

So now this is a bill that can change the face of the region. We should tell the region and have this implemented into the constitution.

To which bill are you referring?

[Dashgrinaar]

So now this is a bill that can change the face of the region. We should tell the region and have this implemented into the constitution.

To which bill are you referring?

Are you going to update F&P to align with the amendment?

[Tuernia]

Are you going to update F&P to align with the amendment?

I'll create a dispatch with the amended version.