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Lindenholt
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Postby Lindenholt » Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:31 am

Carpaij finally said something, he looked at the Caliph

"Now, what I do not understand, and I was instructed by my government to ask, is that why the west is incapable of providing aid to Yosun and Yaramaqui. Personally I find it absurd that you blame us of "imperialism" whilst it is your nation who, and these are your words, forcefully enter a sovereign country's territory. Why? Well you claim it is about helping the people. And while you did do humanitarian aid, you also sent combat forces. Capable of killing several Aznazian soldiers, like mister Pudikov just explained.

Mister Famél came with the proposal that you retreat your combat forces. But the bigger question is: Why were there combat forces in the first place? Were you afraid of resistance? Resistance against aid workers!? That'd be ridiculous. Or were you afraid the "evil western imperialists" would stop you from sending aid?

The only reason why there were combat forces was because your intent was not to help the people of Yosun or Yaramaqui. In fact, you had malicious intents! All I can see is a power and land hungry nation that does not care about the Jews or Christians of Yaramaqui or Yosun. Heck, they don't even care for the Muslims of those countries. The only thing they care about is their selves and the influence they have in this world.

If you actually wanted to help those people when they lost everything then you wouldn't have sent combat forces. All the evidence we have is pointing at a full scale invasion of two sovereign nations.

Let me tell you something, and everyone in this room, I will not put my signature on any deal that gives ANY party any chances of gaining even a millimetre of ground."

He was silent for a second, and then added:

"If I am wrong, and it actually was your intent to help those people who have lost everything then get out of this conference room, get a phone and order your troops to get out of Yaramaqui and Yosun."
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United Soviet Jason Republic
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Postby United Soviet Jason Republic » Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:49 am

"We can help the people faster then you can. We are closer. There is no invasion. Even Yaramaqui has condemned the western intervention. The Iacki invasion was under the justification of a non existent invasion. Foreign nations do not have a clue on what is going on and nor should they get further involved.

The USJR can back a USA buffer zone, but neither Al-Ahsa, Eran or Iackstorm are USA members and USA peacekeepers by law can only protect civilians. They cannot go into dividing nations.

The death of Aznazian troops only further highlight the lack of information and rattling of western sabers. The USJR deployed combat forces to tsunami affected areas and the west has sent troops. You can't be hypocritical and call for the removal of local forces that have been okayed by Yaramaqui.

Iackstorm has no justification to go to arms. It was an unprovoked assault. Iackstorm troops must withdraw at once because they started the shooting. Al-Ahsa sent in troops to help the innocent, Iackstorm sent them in to start a war.

Carpaij, we do not tell you how to govern. Your unjustified intervention clearly shows your imperialist intent. Who says the non Muslim population is harmed? You are merely spreading lies, the lies that started a shooting war. This further emphasizes the point that you western nations have no clue what is really going on and just want to strengthen your power in the region. After all, Yaramaqui had approved of Al-Ahsa's actions. Only you condemn them."
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Sunrisia
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Postby Sunrisia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:56 am

United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:"We can help the people faster then you can. We are closer. There is no invasion. Even Yaramaqui has condemned the western intervention. The Iacki invasion was under the justification of a non existent invasion. Foreign nations do not have a clue on what is going on and nor should they get further involved.

The USJR can back a USA buffer zone, but neither Al-Ahsa, Eran or Iackstorm are USA members and USA peacekeepers by law can only protect civilians. They cannot go into dividing nations.

The death of Aznazian troops only further highlight the lack of information and rattling of western sabers. The USJR deployed combat forces to tsunami affected areas and the west has sent troops. You can't be hypocritical and call for the removal of local forces that have been okayed by Yaramaqui.

Iackstorm has no justification to go to arms. It was an unprovoked assault. Iackstorm troops must withdraw at once because they started the shooting. Al-Ahsa sent in troops to help the innocent, Iackstorm sent them in to start a war.

Carpaij, we do not tell you how to govern. Your unjustified intervention clearly shows your imperialist intent. Who says the non Muslim population is harmed? You are merely spreading lies, the lies that started a shooting war. This further emphasizes the point that you western nations have no clue what is really going on and just want to strengthen your power in the region. After all, Yaramaqui had approved of Al-Ahsa's actions. Only you condemn them."


The USA peacekeepers should not divide anybody. They should monitor the simolteneus withdrawal of forces by both sides and make sure that no combat forces from conflicting parties are located anywhere outside their borders of their countries. In the meantime, Yosun could carry out a repeat referendum, without the presence of any military, while Al-Ahsa could replace its forces carrying out humanitarian efforts in Yaramaqui, with non-combat peacekeepers, as the current troops present there are the same ones that were originally fighting the Iacki Military.
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Rezua
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Postby Rezua » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:02 am

Ymira said firmly "No one here is getting any land to control. I am happy that Iackstorm has agreed to remove their troops, granted that Al-Ahsa does the same. But allow me to just say something. It is most beneficial for both sides to leave now. If they go to war then the USJR goes to war. Then Iackstorm is left in ruins after Yaramaqui and Al-Ahsa are in ruins. Trust me, with or without treaties nations will defend Iackstorm, as they say, all is fair in war. And I'm sure Rezua will be dragged into war, if not by natural progression of war but by nations asking for my help. Then you ruin Rezua. I will not stand for that. In the end we'll have thousands of dead and ashes. What could be gained? Land? At the cost of how many lives? Then know all their blood is on your hands because you failed to avoid war. I, personally, have enough blood on my hands from the last war and don't wish to add more."

Ymira paused only to sip some water and continued "I want all soldiers out of Yaramaqui. Every last one must leave, not slowly, but all in the same day. On that day civilians and firemen will arrive and take over for the soldiers. No blame will be placed on any one nation."
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Postby Rezua » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:04 am

United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:"We can help the people faster then you can. We are closer. There is no invasion. Even Yaramaqui has condemned the western intervention. The Iacki invasion was under the justification of a non existent invasion. Foreign nations do not have a clue on what is going on and nor should they get further involved.

The USJR can back a USA buffer zone, but neither Al-Ahsa, Eran or Iackstorm are USA members and USA peacekeepers by law can only protect civilians. They cannot go into dividing nations.

The death of Aznazian troops only further highlight the lack of information and rattling of western sabers. The USJR deployed combat forces to tsunami affected areas and the west has sent troops. You can't be hypocritical and call for the removal of local forces that have been okayed by Yaramaqui.

Iackstorm has no justification to go to arms. It was an unprovoked assault. Iackstorm troops must withdraw at once because they started the shooting. Al-Ahsa sent in troops to help the innocent, Iackstorm sent them in to start a war.

Carpaij, we do not tell you how to govern. Your unjustified intervention clearly shows your imperialist intent. Who says the non Muslim population is harmed? You are merely spreading lies, the lies that started a shooting war. This further emphasizes the point that you western nations have no clue what is really going on and just want to strengthen your power in the region. After all, Yaramaqui had approved of Al-Ahsa's actions. Only you condemn them."



Ymira smiled at the Soviet "Oh no, big bad Lindenholt is the war mongrel. I believe it was you who said you'll fight Iackstorm over obligation. If you're going to be a hypocrite be ready for it to be pointed out. "

Ymira then turned serious again and said "Honestly if Yaramaqui wants to be under the control of the Capitulate it's not my job nor concern to stop them."
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Sunrisia
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Postby Sunrisia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:10 am

Rezua wrote:
United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:"We can help the people faster then you can. We are closer. There is no invasion. Even Yaramaqui has condemned the western intervention. The Iacki invasion was under the justification of a non existent invasion. Foreign nations do not have a clue on what is going on and nor should they get further involved.

The USJR can back a USA buffer zone, but neither Al-Ahsa, Eran or Iackstorm are USA members and USA peacekeepers by law can only protect civilians. They cannot go into dividing nations.

The death of Aznazian troops only further highlight the lack of information and rattling of western sabers. The USJR deployed combat forces to tsunami affected areas and the west has sent troops. You can't be hypocritical and call for the removal of local forces that have been okayed by Yaramaqui.

Iackstorm has no justification to go to arms. It was an unprovoked assault. Iackstorm troops must withdraw at once because they started the shooting. Al-Ahsa sent in troops to help the innocent, Iackstorm sent them in to start a war.

Carpaij, we do not tell you how to govern. Your unjustified intervention clearly shows your imperialist intent. Who says the non Muslim population is harmed? You are merely spreading lies, the lies that started a shooting war. This further emphasizes the point that you western nations have no clue what is really going on and just want to strengthen your power in the region. After all, Yaramaqui had approved of Al-Ahsa's actions. Only you condemn them."



Ymira smiled at the Soviet "Oh no, big bad Lindenholt is the war mongrel. I believe it was you who said you'll fight Iackstorm over obligation. If you're going to be a hypocrite be ready for it to be pointed out. "

Ymira then turned serious again and said "Honestly if Yaramaqui wants to be under the control of the Capitulate it's not my job nor concern to stop them."


But only the King of Yaramaqui said that and not the people themselves.” Said the President.

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Postby Rezua » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:14 am

Sunrisia wrote:
Rezua wrote:

Ymira smiled at the Soviet "Oh no, big bad Lindenholt is the war mongrel. I believe it was you who said you'll fight Iackstorm over obligation. If you're going to be a hypocrite be ready for it to be pointed out. "

Ymira then turned serious again and said "Honestly if Yaramaqui wants to be under the control of the Capitulate it's not my job nor concern to stop them."


But only the King of Yaramaqui said that and not the people themselves.” Said the President.


"Then there must be a vote. And if the King will not give one, and we cannot force him, then I think another Civil War will rock this continent." Ymira said.
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Postby United Soviet Jason Republic » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:20 am

"I am sure that the King of Yaramaqui is the ruling and sovereign executive of the land and this he can do what he pleases. He choose to take the help. We cannot force him to recant his decision. I am sure that the people need aid in the tsunami and earthquake zone and don't care who it is coming from.

I am I a hypocrite? Am I being loyal to an ally? My ally has been attacked. Iackstorm has invaded for no justified reason. If anyone aids Iackstorm they are aggressors. We have not attacked. Have we shot at a foe first? Are we not trying to help civilians? The military has a task of aiding in areas of devastation. Why do we have to stop doing something normal? Western nations are attacking for no reason. They just want to have it their way even if it delays the aid desperately needed by the civilian population of Yaramaqui."
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Postby Capsland » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:28 am

Yvonne turned to face everyone.
"Isn't it clear? This whole situation isn't about 'the good of the people' it's just a stupid power struggle between East and West. The west is angry that their ally has sided with the East the East is angry because the West is angry. This will never be solved while our individual nations are involved. The peace deal signed between Capsland and Al-Ahsa stopped fighting and returned status-quo. I suggest a peace deal like this, let Al-Ahsa have Yosun if the people so desire, just give them terms and conditions in ruling the territory."
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Postby Rezua » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:29 am

United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:"I am sure that the King of Yaramaqui is the ruling and sovereign executive of the land and this he can do what he pleases. He choose to take the help. We cannot force him to recant his decision. I am sure that the people need aid in the tsunami and earthquake zone and don't care who it is coming from.

I am I a hypocrite? Am I being loyal to an ally? My ally has been attacked. Iackstorm has invaded for no justified reason. If anyone aids Iackstorm they are aggressors. We have not attacked. Have we shot at a foe first? Are we not trying to help civilians? The military has a task of aiding in areas of devastation. Why do we have to stop doing something normal? Western nations are attacking for no reason. They just want to have it their way even if it delays the aid desperately needed by the civilian population of Yaramaqui."


Ymira pointed a finger accusingly at the Soviet "There you go saying that you were helping your ally. The West thought they were doing the same thing. My God! This is just a web of allies. The Capitulate said they'd united all the Muslims. A minority in Yaramaqui. Yet you say that the king can do as he wishes? Tell me if I'm wrong, if I am Empress and tomorrow I said I'd give all my land to Divergia or whatever, don't you think you'd take me out? To give the Rezuan people a voice? Why will you not do the same to this king?"
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Postby Sunrisia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:37 am

Capsland wrote:Yvonne turned to face everyone.
"Isn't it clear? This whole situation isn't about 'the good of the people' it's just a stupid power struggle between East and West. The west is angry that their ally has sided with the East the East is angry because the West is angry. This will never be solved while our individual nations are involved. The peace deal signed between Capsland and Al-Ahsa stopped fighting and returned status-quo. I suggest a peace deal like this, let Al-Ahsa have Yosun if the people so desire, just give them terms and conditions in ruling the territory."


I apologize, but I have to disagree. You're suggesting a drastic decision. Sunrisia is not siding with either West or East. All our country cares about is that the international law is strictly preserved by all. We cannot be biased and accept the assimilation of Yosun into Al-Ahsa via a referendum, which was carried out with the presence of military forces, no matter of which country. As for Yaramaqui, If they decide to ally themselves with Al-Ahsa, our country will not have any problem with that, as that is their choice.

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Postby Capsland » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:56 am

Sunrisia wrote:
Capsland wrote:Yvonne turned to face everyone.
"Isn't it clear? This whole situation isn't about 'the good of the people' it's just a stupid power struggle between East and West. The west is angry that their ally has sided with the East the East is angry because the West is angry. This will never be solved while our individual nations are involved. The peace deal signed between Capsland and Al-Ahsa stopped fighting and returned status-quo. I suggest a peace deal like this, let Al-Ahsa have Yosun if the people so desire, just give them terms and conditions in ruling the territory."


I apologize, but I have to disagree. You're suggesting a drastic decision. Sunrisia is not siding with either West or East. All our country cares about is that the international law is strictly preserved by all. We cannot be biased and accept the assimilation of Yosun into Al-Ahsa via a referendum, which was carried out with the presence of military forces, no matter of which country. As for Yaramaqui, If they decide to ally themselves with Al-Ahsa, our country will not have any problem with that, as that is their choice.

"Al-Ahsa will not back down. It will not relinquish control of Yosun in any way, I can assure you. With Al-Ahsa not backing down, Eran will support them causing the USJR to support them. Then, when the West notices USJR involvement, they won't back down. Let's face it, this is all just a proxy war between the West and the USJR. Unless Al-Ahsa suddenly goes against what it has been saying and withdraws everything, I don't see an end to this. USA involvement or not."
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Postby Sunrisia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:07 am

Capsland wrote:
Sunrisia wrote:
I apologize, but I have to disagree. You're suggesting a drastic decision. Sunrisia is not siding with either West or East. All our country cares about is that the international law is strictly preserved by all. We cannot be biased and accept the assimilation of Yosun into Al-Ahsa via a referendum, which was carried out with the presence of military forces, no matter of which country. As for Yaramaqui, If they decide to ally themselves with Al-Ahsa, our country will not have any problem with that, as that is their choice.

"Al-Ahsa will not back down. It will not relinquish control of Yosun in any way, I can assure you. With Al-Ahsa not backing down, Eran will support them causing the USJR to support them. Then, when the West notices USJR involvement, they won't back down. Let's face it, this is all just a proxy war between the West and the USJR. Unless Al-Ahsa suddenly goes against what it has been saying and withdraws everything, I don't see an end to this. USA involvement or not."


So, in other words, you are already classifying Al-Ahsa as an aggressor with imperial ambitions, right? So do you just suggest to leave Yosun under the alleged occupation, in order to avoid a bigger war? Or would you actually support a referendum organized by the mutual effort of the international community?

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Postby Capsland » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:22 am

Sunrisia wrote:
Capsland wrote:"Al-Ahsa will not back down. It will not relinquish control of Yosun in any way, I can assure you. With Al-Ahsa not backing down, Eran will support them causing the USJR to support them. Then, when the West notices USJR involvement, they won't back down. Let's face it, this is all just a proxy war between the West and the USJR. Unless Al-Ahsa suddenly goes against what it has been saying and withdraws everything, I don't see an end to this. USA involvement or not."


So, in other words, you are already classifying Al-Ahsa as an aggressor with imperial ambitions, right? So do you just suggest to leave Yosun under the alleged occupation, in order to avoid a bigger war? Or would you actually support a referendum organized by the mutual effort of the international community?

"My government would like it for borders to revert to their original positions but the reports suggest that most of Yosun wants to join Al-Ahsa. So any referendum, with troops stationed there or not I can guarantee will be a yes vote to join Al-Ahsa. This current situation is better than a full scale war, my government would rather it doesn't escalate further especially as they have just come out of a war with Al-Ahsa just a week ago."
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Postby Sunrisia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:40 am

Capsland wrote:
Sunrisia wrote:
So, in other words, you are already classifying Al-Ahsa as an aggressor with imperial ambitions, right? So do you just suggest to leave Yosun under the alleged occupation, in order to avoid a bigger war? Or would you actually support a referendum organized by the mutual effort of the international community?

"My government would like it for borders to revert to their original positions but the reports suggest that most of Yosun wants to join Al-Ahsa. So any referendum, with troops stationed there or not I can guarantee will be a yes vote to join Al-Ahsa. This current situation is better than a full scale war, my government would rather it doesn't escalate further especially as they have just come out of a war with Al-Ahsa just a week ago."


But you’re making these conclusions based on the results of the first referendum, which was done under the presence of armed forces. We need a second referendum to be carried out under proper and legal conditions and it does not matter if the result will be the same.

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Postby United Soviet Jason Republic » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:53 am

"What ally is the west protecting? Yaramaqui? Yaramaqui dissaproves of the western protection that has lead to this crisis. The west is protecting Isckstorm's unjustified invasion. That is what they are doing. This proxy war of sorts is because the west is coming over here and enforcing their will when people have voted, leaders have stated, that they want Al-Ahsa and the west still dissaproves.
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Postby Sunrisia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:00 am

United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:"What ally is the west protecting? Yaramaqui? Yaramaqui dissaproves of the western protection that has lead to this crisis. The west is protecting Isckstorm's unjustified invasion. That is what they are doing. This proxy war of sorts is because the west is coming over here and enforcing their will when people have voted, leaders have stated, that they want Al-Ahsa and the west still dissaproves.


You know, I think that we can agree that the West cannot demand that Al-Ahsa removes forces from Yaramaqui, if Yaramaqui itself does not want that. And even if Yaramaqui is being invaded, it cannot be forced to defend itself. Of course, it would be nice to hear what the people of Yaramaqui have to say about this and not just their King.

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Postby Capsland » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:07 am

Sunrisia wrote:
Capsland wrote:"My government would like it for borders to revert to their original positions but the reports suggest that most of Yosun wants to join Al-Ahsa. So any referendum, with troops stationed there or not I can guarantee will be a yes vote to join Al-Ahsa. This current situation is better than a full scale war, my government would rather it doesn't escalate further especially as they have just come out of a war with Al-Ahsa just a week ago."


But you’re making these conclusions based on the results of the first referendum, which was done under the presence of armed forces. We need a second referendum to be carried out under proper and legal conditions and it does not matter if the result will be the same.

"Well then we shall have a second referendum. Capsland is not against a second referendum we just see it as a waste of resources when the result will be the same."
Ambassador Yvonne then turned to Mr. Leon
"I understand Iackstorm's concern. This merge was unannounced and from outside sources it seem as though the military were jsut taking over then the Al-Ahsean military marched into Yaramaqui. However, now that we know the intentions we must respect that. This is no ones fault, Iackstorm felt threatened and responded, Al-Ahsa then felt threatened and responded causing this. The sole cause of this crisis was lack of communication between the countries."
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Postby Sunrisia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:12 am

Capsland wrote:
Sunrisia wrote:
But you’re making these conclusions based on the results of the first referendum, which was done under the presence of armed forces. We need a second referendum to be carried out under proper and legal conditions and it does not matter if the result will be the same.

"Well then we shall have a second referendum. Capsland is not against a second referendum we just see it as a waste of resources when the result will be the same."
Ambassador Yvonne then turned to Mr. Leon
"I understand Iackstorm's concern. This merge was unannounced and from outside sources it seem as though the military were jsut taking over then the Al-Ahsean military marched into Yaramaqui. However, now that we know the intentions we must respect that. This is no ones fault, Iackstorm felt threatened and responded, Al-Ahsa then felt threatened and responded causing this. The sole cause of this crisis was lack of communication between the countries."


Well, the first referendum was not entirely legal, therefore, it was the true waste of resources. The second referendum must not have any foreign military present in Yosun and the votes must be counted by representatives from neutral countries that did not participate in the conflict and did not support either side. This type of a referendum will be legal then, while the first one did not match these conditions, therefore, it does not count.
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Postby Smoya » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:31 am

Capsland wrote:
Sunrisia wrote:
But you’re making these conclusions based on the results of the first referendum, which was done under the presence of armed forces. We need a second referendum to be carried out under proper and legal conditions and it does not matter if the result will be the same.

"Well then we shall have a second referendum. Capsland is not against a second referendum we just see it as a waste of resources when the result will be the same."
Ambassador Yvonne then turned to Mr. Leon
"I understand Iackstorm's concern. This merge was unannounced and from outside sources it seem as though the military were jsut taking over then the Al-Ahsean military marched into Yaramaqui. However, now that we know the intentions we must respect that. This is no ones fault, Iackstorm felt threatened and responded, Al-Ahsa then felt threatened and responded causing this. The sole cause of this crisis was lack of communication between the countries."

"I agree," Mr. Marzio said. "If both countries withdraw - Iackstorm from Al-Ahsa and visa versa - then we have a chance at peace. But one thing must be settled for sure, to stop pointing fingers like little children. This isn't a tattle tale session. We are trying to make peace. By insulting people we are getting nothing done," Marzio added. He mentioned nobody specifically.
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Postby Sunrisia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:41 am

Smoya wrote:
Capsland wrote:"Well then we shall have a second referendum. Capsland is not against a second referendum we just see it as a waste of resources when the result will be the same."
Ambassador Yvonne then turned to Mr. Leon
"I understand Iackstorm's concern. This merge was unannounced and from outside sources it seem as though the military were jsut taking over then the Al-Ahsean military marched into Yaramaqui. However, now that we know the intentions we must respect that. This is no ones fault, Iackstorm felt threatened and responded, Al-Ahsa then felt threatened and responded causing this. The sole cause of this crisis was lack of communication between the countries."

"I agree," Mr. Marzio said. "If both countries withdraw - Iackstorm from Al-Ahsa and visa versa - then we have a chance at peace. But one thing must be settled for sure, to stop pointing fingers like little children. This isn't a tattle tell session. We are trying to make peace. By insulting people we are getting nothing done," Marzio added. He mentioned nobody specifically.


That’s why the USA should authorize the deployment of special peacekeepers that would monitor the simultaneous withdrawal of forces on both sides. As you said, it does not matter who started it. Right now it matters that both end the fight.” Said President Famél.

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Postby Vekalse » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:49 am

Dean had fallen asleep, quite disrespectfully. He woke with a grunt, his book falling to the ground. "Wha... Oh, yeah. Wehlll... Why not just let humanitarian efforts stay and Iackstorm and Al-Ahsa withdraw?
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Postby Mexico Unidos » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:59 am

Gonzales broke his silence. "Why doesn't Mexico organize another referendum? We are neutral and want peace only, we have chosen no sides. Trust me, it'll work out great!" Gonzales proudly said.

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Postby Sunrisia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:08 am

Vekalse wrote:Dean had fallen asleep, quite disrespectfully. He woke with a grunt, his book falling to the ground. "Wha... Oh, yeah. Wehlll... Why not just let humanitarian efforts stay and Iackstorm and Al-Ahsa withdraw?


President Famél then rubbed his eyes. “Because the humanitarian efforts are being carried out by the combat forces that are also carrying out all the fighting.

Mexico Unidos wrote:Gonzales broke his silence. "Why doesn't Mexico organize another referendum? We are neutral and want peace only, we have chosen no sides. Trust me, it'll work out great!" Gonzales proudly said.


Yosun must be emptied of all non-Yosuni military forces first. Including Al-Ahsan and the mutual Caliphate army.

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"Sounds good," he said. "Once that is done, Mexico can organize this and make sure it is 100% unbiased. Is that alright?"

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