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Zanera
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Postby Zanera » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:39 pm

"On behalf of the Armed Technocratic State of Zanera, we wish that our mistake may be mended, that the fools at our emergency meeting be embarrassed to the most useful extent, that our nations can show good will towards each other, and also that we are sorry for the mistakes of certain Zanerians and that we are sorry for any lives lost because of the conflict," said Supreme James Vitchell.

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Sunrisia
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Postby Sunrisia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:42 pm

Let’s say that the Yosuni situation has been more or less settled. What about Yaramaqui? Should we be encouraging a referendum there too? Because we need proof whether the people of Yaramaqui themselves actually want to join the Caliphate or is it just their King speaking for the entire nation?
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Postby Zanera » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:44 pm

Sunrisia wrote:Let’s say that the Yosuni situation has been more or less settled. What about Yaramaqui? Should we be encouraging a referendum there too? Because we need proof whether the people of Yaramaqui themselves want to join the Caliphate and its not just their King speaking for the entire nation.


"From what we gathered from the news report, they were just very grateful for the help. I heard of no willingness to join the Caliphate," said Andrew.

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Vekalse
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Postby Vekalse » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:45 pm

Dean look at the Caliph. "Withdraw from Yosun. The West does not need any help with aid. If you would like to contribute, adopt ADMET, for you are in Azarah. ADMET stands for Azarah Dangerous Medical Emergencies Team."
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Postby Sunrisia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:48 pm

Zanera wrote:
Sunrisia wrote:Let’s say that the Yosuni situation has been more or less settled. What about Yaramaqui? Should we be encouraging a referendum there too? Because we need proof whether the people of Yaramaqui themselves want to join the Caliphate and its not just their King speaking for the entire nation.


"From what we gathered from the news report, they were just very grateful for the help. I heard of no willingness to join the Caliphate," said Andrew.


Well, then Al-Ahsa should withdraw all forces from there and later show that they had left Yaramaqui for good, once the process is complete.

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Postby Zanera » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:51 pm

Vekalse wrote:Dean look at the Caliph. "Withdraw from Yosun. The West does not need any help with aid. If you would like to contribute, adopt ADMET, for you are in Azarah. ADMET stands for Azarah Dangerous Medical Emergencies Team."


Sunrisia wrote:
Zanera wrote:
"From what we gathered from the news report, they were just very grateful for the help. I heard of no willingness to join the Caliphate," said Andrew.


Well, then Al-Ahsa should withdraw all forces from there and later show that they had left Yaramaqui for good, once the process is complete.


"If anything, we should be promised by the Caliphate that they will only have armed guards, and we should assure them that is all we will have as well. They wish no harm, and we should all show it. They should show they wish no harm, and that we trust them. We require all the help we can get, and so do the Yaramaquese. Who are we to say a nation that wants to show good will cannot do so? We should work together," said Shelley.

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Rezua
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Postby Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:53 pm

Vekalse wrote:Dean look at the Caliph. "Withdraw from Yosun. The West does not need any help with aid. If you would like to contribute, adopt ADMET, for you are in Azarah. ADMET stands for Azarah Dangerous Medical Emergencies Team."


"I really don't think they're going to leave. Their referendum was said to be watched and made sure to be official. I'm under the impression that Yaramaqui doesn't want to join the Capitulate." Ymira said. Suddenly, Christina appeared and spoke some Revon to Ymira. Then Ymira turned to face the group and spoke in English again "We sent humanitarian aid to Yaramaqui and all damaged nations. My sister has informed me that our troops in Yaramaqui are unable to give out their supplies until this is solved."
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Postby Sunrisia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:55 pm

"We cannot further demand Al-Ahsan withdrawal from Yosun, if the people of Yosun themselves have voted in favor of joining a united Caliphate with them. However, I’m personally conflicted whether my administration can agree with the referendum. It was still carried out following an entry of Al-Ahsan forces into Yosun and the votes were counted by representatives from non-neutral countries. I think the second round of the referendum should be carried out over the course of the upcoming several days, before Yosun is fully assimilated."
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Postby Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:04 pm

Sunrisia wrote:"We cannot further demand Al-Ahsan withdrawal from Yosun, if the people of Yosun themselves have voted in favor of joining a united Caliphate with them. However, I’m personally conflicted whether my administration can agree with the referendum. It was still carried out following an entry of Al-Ahsan forces into Yosun and the votes were counted by representatives from non-neutral countries. I think the second round of the referendum should be carried out over the course of the upcoming several days, before Yosun is fully assimilated."



"As I have been saying if the Yosuni really want to join we can't stop them. But I want to know they we're pressured or forced." Ymira said.
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Postby Vekalse » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:10 pm

"The rule had been made, and now Yosun has agreed to join the Caliphate."
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Al-Ahsa
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Postby Al-Ahsa » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:14 pm

The Caliph began, "to put all concerns aside, there will be a second referendum held in the coming weeks, though it may take slightly longer depending on how many nations wish to observe. Next, I would also like to state the military in Yaramaqui will not be withdrawn until the area has been successfully rebuilt, let us not forget the Yaramaquese government requested we pull back troops to a certain area, and we complied. It is the intentions, and desires, of the Yaramaquese Government and people for our military to remain. Demanding otherwise, is simply disregarding what the people want. Next, I would also like to state, my ancestors, in 1854, made one of the official duties of the military in the Kingdom of Al-Misr, "to act in service of humanitarian aid." When the various Arab kingdoms were united in the 1940's to form Al-Ahsa, this tradition continued and humanitarianism continues to be a part of, how do you say… The job description. While ADMET is good, it is the tradition of our people, for 161 years now, that the army be used in this manner."

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Postby Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:17 pm

Al-Ahsa wrote:The Caliph began, "to put all concerns aside, there will be a second referendum held in the coming weeks, though it may take slightly longer depending on how many nations wish to observe. Next, I would also like to state the military in Yaramaqui will not be withdrawn until the area has been successfully rebuilt, let us not forget the Yaramaquese government requested we pull back troops to a certain area, and we complied. It is the intentions, and desires, of the Yaramaquese Government and people for our military to remain. Demanding otherwise, is simply disregarding what the people want. Next, I would also like to state, my ancestors, in 1854, made one of the official duties of the military in the Kingdom of Al-Misr, "to act in service of humanitarian aid." When the various Arab kingdoms were united in the 1940's to form Al-Ahsa, this tradition continued and humanitarianism continues to be a part of, how do you say… The job description. While ADMET is good, it is the tradition of our people, for 161 years now, that the army be used in this manner."


"I am grateful for the second referendum. However I do not want your army staying in Yaramaqui until it is completely rebuilt. That's just too long. There is no need for that. Your soldiers are taking the jobs of Yaramaquese workers. The homeless could really used those jobs." Ymira said.
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Postby Aznazia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:19 pm

Chancellor Pudikov finally broke his silence.

"I am surprised that some here are so willing to retreat in the face of threats and lies made from nations like the United Soviet Jason Republic and Al-Ahsa. Aznazia will NOT accept any of the blame for the events that have unfolded over the past few days. Aznazians have died at the hands of soldiers from Al-Ahsa who do not care for the Christian and Jewish populations of Yosun and Yaramaqui. The goal of Al-Ahsa's Caliphate is to care for only the Muslim people of Azarah and not the other people of the region who may not wish to live under the laws of Islam. Even if this some how was some "misunderstanding" I still will state that Aznazia honored it's commitment to it's ally; to defend it from foreign invaders, invaders that began to annex land illegally into their Caliphate. Our nation was not brought into this war because of Iackstorm's involvement, rather Aznazia became involved when the Caliphate released maps describing an area of Yaramaqui that was to be "occupied" in order to "protect" Yaramaqui from Iackstorm. If I am not mistaken I believe Iackstorm has had friendly relations with Iackstorm proving the Caliphate's move was illegal and forced my nation to come to the aid of our ally."
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Postby Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:22 pm

Aznazia wrote:Chancellor Pudikov finally broke his silence.

"I am surprised that some here are so willing to retreat in the face of threats and lies made from nations like the United Soviet Jason Republic and Al-Ahsa. Aznazia will NOT accept any of the blame for the events that have unfolded over the past few days. Aznazians have died at the hands of soldiers from Al-Ahsa who do not care for the Christian and Jewish populations of Yosun and Yaramaqui. The goal of Al-Ahsa's Caliphate is to care for only the Muslim people of Azarah and not the other people of the region who may not wish to live under the laws of Islam. Even if this some how was some "misunderstanding" I still will state that Aznazia honored it's commitment to it's ally; to defend it from foreign invaders, invaders that began to annex land illegally into their Caliphate. Our nation was not brought into this war because of Iackstorm's involvement, rather Aznazia became involved when the Caliphate released maps describing an area of Yaramaqui that was to be "occupied" in order to "protect" Yaramaqui from Iackstorm. If I am not mistaken I believe Iackstorm has had friendly relations with Iackstorm proving the Caliphate's move was illegal and forced my nation to come to the aid of our ally."



"I'm not placing blame on anyone, I just want everyone to get out to avoid spilling buckets of blood across the globe." Ymira said. "Can we all agree to just leave? How about removing troops and replacing them with humanitarian aid workers, not soldiers?"
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Al-Ahsa
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Postby Al-Ahsa » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:26 pm

Rezua wrote:
Al-Ahsa wrote:The Caliph began, "to put all concerns aside, there will be a second referendum held in the coming weeks, though it may take slightly longer depending on how many nations wish to observe. Next, I would also like to state the military in Yaramaqui will not be withdrawn until the area has been successfully rebuilt, let us not forget the Yaramaquese government requested we pull back troops to a certain area, and we complied. It is the intentions, and desires, of the Yaramaquese Government and people for our military to remain. Demanding otherwise, is simply disregarding what the people want. Next, I would also like to state, my ancestors, in 1854, made one of the official duties of the military in the Kingdom of Al-Misr, "to act in service of humanitarian aid." When the various Arab kingdoms were united in the 1940's to form Al-Ahsa, this tradition continued and humanitarianism continues to be a part of, how do you say… The job description. While ADMET is good, it is the tradition of our people, for 161 years now, that the army be used in this manner."


"I am grateful for the second referendum. However I do not want your army staying in Yaramaqui until it is completely rebuilt. That's just too long. There is no need for that. Your soldiers are taking the jobs of Yaramaquese workers. The homeless could really used those jobs." Ymira said.


"That is another misunderstanding. No jobs are taken from Yaramaquese people. Rather, the military will continue to, as it currently is, work along side the Yaramaquese providing them with, what is essentially, free labour. When we entered Ma'alamot, we did not take over operations, rather we worked jointly with them to help in search-and-rescue missions, the clearing of debris and rubble to help find trapped people, and so on. Further, the government of the caliphate is sending 30,000,000 dollars to the the city of Ma'alamot to fund the rebuilding, including to help pay the wages of Yaramaquese citizens to provide them with jobs. The EAHHU, Eranian-Al-Ahsan Humanitarian Union is currently sending aid workers, who will gradually replace the soldiers; along with thousands of citizens of the Caliphate volunteering to go to the area to assist the Yaramaquese. As more civilians enter the area, less soldiers will be stationed there until the only remaining troops remain as guards. Once this is over, the EAHHU will withdraw its workers back to Eran and the Caliphate. "

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Postby Al-Ahsa » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:27 pm

Aznazia wrote:Chancellor Pudikov finally broke his silence.

"I am surprised that some here are so willing to retreat in the face of threats and lies made from nations like the United Soviet Jason Republic and Al-Ahsa. Aznazia will NOT accept any of the blame for the events that have unfolded over the past few days. Aznazians have died at the hands of soldiers from Al-Ahsa who do not care for the Christian and Jewish populations of Yosun and Yaramaqui. The goal of Al-Ahsa's Caliphate is to care for only the Muslim people of Azarah and not the other people of the region who may not wish to live under the laws of Islam. Even if this some how was some "misunderstanding" I still will state that Aznazia honored it's commitment to it's ally; to defend it from foreign invaders, invaders that began to annex land illegally into their Caliphate. Our nation was not brought into this war because of Iackstorm's involvement, rather Aznazia became involved when the Caliphate released maps describing an area of Yaramaqui that was to be "occupied" in order to "protect" Yaramaqui from Iackstorm. If I am not mistaken I believe Iackstorm has had friendly relations with Iackstorm proving the Caliphate's move was illegal and forced my nation to come to the aid of our ally."

"I ask, that if Christians and Jews are so easily persecuted in the Caliphate, why it is that for centuries they have lived in Al-Ahsa, instead of leaving to Yaramaqui, or Eranshahir? What is your basis of these allegations, when they are so easily unfounded and simply propaganda."

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Postby Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:30 pm

Al-Ahsa wrote:
Aznazia wrote:Chancellor Pudikov finally broke his silence.

"I am surprised that some here are so willing to retreat in the face of threats and lies made from nations like the United Soviet Jason Republic and Al-Ahsa. Aznazia will NOT accept any of the blame for the events that have unfolded over the past few days. Aznazians have died at the hands of soldiers from Al-Ahsa who do not care for the Christian and Jewish populations of Yosun and Yaramaqui. The goal of Al-Ahsa's Caliphate is to care for only the Muslim people of Azarah and not the other people of the region who may not wish to live under the laws of Islam. Even if this some how was some "misunderstanding" I still will state that Aznazia honored it's commitment to it's ally; to defend it from foreign invaders, invaders that began to annex land illegally into their Caliphate. Our nation was not brought into this war because of Iackstorm's involvement, rather Aznazia became involved when the Caliphate released maps describing an area of Yaramaqui that was to be "occupied" in order to "protect" Yaramaqui from Iackstorm. If I am not mistaken I believe Iackstorm has had friendly relations with Iackstorm proving the Caliphate's move was illegal and forced my nation to come to the aid of our ally."

"I ask, that if Christians and Jews are so easily persecuted in the Caliphate, why it is that for centuries they have lived in Al-Ahsa, instead of leaving to Yaramaqui, or Eranshahir? What is your basis of these allegations, when they are so easily unfounded and simply propaganda."



"As I recall Christians and Jewish Yosuni shot at your troops as the marched in. I think they'd have a reason to fight. I want the Aznazian view to be heard." Ymira said.
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Postby Al-Ahsa » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:39 pm

Rezua wrote:
Al-Ahsa wrote:"I ask, that if Christians and Jews are so easily persecuted in the Caliphate, why it is that for centuries they have lived in Al-Ahsa, instead of leaving to Yaramaqui, or Eranshahir? What is your basis of these allegations, when they are so easily unfounded and simply propaganda."



"As I recall Christians and Jewish Yosuni shot at your troops as the marched in. I think they'd have a reason to fight. I want the Aznazian view to be heard." Ymira said.

"That is not entirely correct; no. Christians and Jews in Yosun did not shoot at Caliphate troops; there was a minority made up of Christians and Jews who protested the take over of Yosun, as they would have protested if the government had elected to join Iackstorm. There have also been Muslims in Yosun who have protested the decision, and the referendum's results; does this mean the Caliphate does not represent Muslims as well? It's a silly appeal to emotion, a logical fallacy, to assert that because a minority, composed of Christians and Jews, protested their national government voting to hand over national sovereignty, they did so because "of fear of persecution." It is blatantly ignoring the legal constitution of the Caliphate, the laws of Islam, and ignoring that these were nationalists - their religion has nothing to do with it. It is why Nationalist Muslims protested, too."

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Postby Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:46 pm

Al-Ahsa wrote:
Rezua wrote:

"As I recall Christians and Jewish Yosuni shot at your troops as the marched in. I think they'd have a reason to fight. I want the Aznazian view to be heard." Ymira said.

"That is not entirely correct; no. Christians and Jews in Yosun did not shoot at Caliphate troops; there was a minority made up of Christians and Jews who protested the take over of Yosun, as they would have protested if the government had elected to join Iackstorm. There have also been Muslims in Yosun who have protested the decision, and the referendum's results; does this mean the Caliphate does not represent Muslims as well? It's a silly appeal to emotion, a logical fallacy, to assert that because a minority, composed of Christians and Jews, protested their national government voting to hand over national sovereignty, they did so because "of fear of persecution." It is blatantly ignoring the legal constitution of the Caliphate, the laws of Islam, and ignoring that these were nationalists - their religion has nothing to do with it. It is why Nationalist Muslims protested, too."


"No offense but a country shouldn't have religious laws be the law all must follow." Ymira said.
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Postby Aznazia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:49 pm

Rezua wrote:
Al-Ahsa wrote:"I ask, that if Christians and Jews are so easily persecuted in the Caliphate, why it is that for centuries they have lived in Al-Ahsa, instead of leaving to Yaramaqui, or Eranshahir? What is your basis of these allegations, when they are so easily unfounded and simply propaganda."



"As I recall Christians and Jewish Yosuni shot at your troops as the marched in. I think they'd have a reason to fight. I want the Aznazian view to be heard." Ymira said.


The Chancellor nodded at Ymira.

"I thank you Empress. I have great respect for you and your nation after fighting a insurgency. My basis comes from your example about the Christians and Jewish population of Yosun attacking Calipate troops but also the statement made by the Caliphate.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... #p25091747

According to the statement made by the Caliph, the Al-Marsi Caliphate has forcefully entered Eastern Yaramaqui. It also states the Caliphate's mission is to, and I quote: unite the Muslims of Azarah under one strong rule to help against Western intervention and aggression. I do not see this as a very friendly or peaceful operation by the Caliphate. Instead I see an Religious and Imperialist agenda by the Caliphate to expand it's boarders using force. I would also like to respond to the Caliph's remark about why Christians and Jews do not move out of the Caliphate. It is very hard for people to pull up all their roots and move to a foreign land that is strange and far from family.
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Pro: USA, Guns, Republic, Capitalism, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, Gay Rights, Patriotism, Environment, Green Energy.
Anti: Communism, Corruption, Crony-Capitalism, Accommodation, Fascism, Religious Extremism, Neo-Progressivism.
Peace Time: 450,000 total

Breakdown by branch (peace time):
    -Army: 250,000
    -Navy: 100,000
    -Marines: 35,000
    -Air force: 65,000
Population: 98.362 Million
Current Chancellor: Fredrick Pudikov
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Dwight Folwer
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Postby Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:05 pm

Aznazia wrote:
Rezua wrote:

"As I recall Christians and Jewish Yosuni shot at your troops as the marched in. I think they'd have a reason to fight. I want the Aznazian view to be heard." Ymira said.


The Chancellor nodded at Ymira.

"I thank you Empress. I have great respect for you and your nation after fighting a insurgency. My basis comes from your example about the Christians and Jewish population of Yosun attacking Calipate troops but also the statement made by the Caliphate.


viewtopic.php?f=4&t=273407&start=800#p25091747

According to the statement made by the Caliph, the Al-Marsi Caliphate has forcefully entered Eastern Yaramaqui. It also states the Caliphate's mission is to, and I quote: unite the Muslims of Azarah under one strong rule to help against Western intervention and aggression. I do not see this as a very friendly or peaceful operation by the Caliphate. Instead I see an Religious and Imperialist agenda by the Caliphate to expand it's boarders using force. I would also like to respond to the Caliph's remark about why Christians and Jews do not move out of the Caliphate. It is very hard for people to pull up all their roots and move to a foreign land that is strange and far from family.


Ymira said "That is very interesting. I think these were my intelligence noticifactions."
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Postby Rhodevus » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:21 pm

"Rhodevus does not want to enter another war." stated General Timmel, a well known battle commander. "We do have the resources and manpower to do so, but we do not like wasting the lives of our future. I feel that my Queen here can attest to this. Al-Ahsa should remove its soldiers from Yaramaqui, and then and only then can you diplomatically ask for your troops to re-enter the country to help with rebuilding."

"I would like to also mention once more that we have no problem with a caliphate rule. As long as all people are given equal and non-preferential treatment. As long as the Caliphate follows that Qu'ran peacefully, then Rhodevus sees no problem with your country and would like to work with it in the future. With that aside, this pointless war between the soldiers of Iackstorm and soldiers from Al-Ahsa, as well as their allies was started over something that can easily be solved without the need for further violence. The first step, is to have the allies of these nations withdraw their troops. I don't actually care what petty quarrels you all personally have now. What I care about it stopping this war from expanding. Let the allies withdraw first, and then let us all create equal peace terms. Final borders of the Caliphate as well as a temporary USA patrolled border between Iackstorm and the caliphate." Diana said
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Postby Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:36 pm

Rhodevus wrote:"Rhodevus does not want to enter another war." stated General Timmel, a well known battle commander. "We do have the resources and manpower to do so, but we do not like wasting the lives of our future. I feel that my Queen here can attest to this. Al-Ahsa should remove its soldiers from Yaramaqui, and then and only then can you diplomatically ask for your troops to re-enter the country to help with rebuilding."

"I would like to also mention once more that we have no problem with a caliphate rule. As long as all people are given equal and non-preferential treatment. As long as the Caliphate follows that Qu'ran peacefully, then Rhodevus sees no problem with your country and would like to work with it in the future. With that aside, this pointless war between the soldiers of Iackstorm and soldiers from Al-Ahsa, as well as their allies was started over something that can easily be solved without the need for further violence. The first step, is to have the allies of these nations withdraw their troops. I don't actually care what petty quarrels you all personally have now. What I care about it stopping this war from expanding. Let the allies withdraw first, and then let us all create equal peace terms. Final borders of the Caliphate as well as a temporary USA patrolled border between Iackstorm and the caliphate." Diana said


"I like this idea. It will get my troops out of harms way, since they're in the middle of both sides, and let us figure out what to do in a less tense situation." Ymira said.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Iackstorm » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:32 pm

Minister of Foreign Affairs James Malerdaban walked into the room and made a quick apology. "I am sorry for my delay, my flight was late to leave. Please forgive my tardiness," he quickly said and sat down in a seat near the Caliph, trying to show he was willing to cooperate.

"I am here to represent Iackstorm. And I would like to clear up some false accusations about our nation. First of all, we went to Yaramaqui to defend them from a force that forcefully entered their territory. But there is something bigger I would like to address. We are not against the stability of this region, as some leaders here have made our nation seem like a warmongering nation looking solely to start a fight. Please ignore those claims as they are without any reasoning and rather insulting to our people." he said firmly.

"Iackstorm wants peace, as I assume all of us do. Iackstorm is willing to withdraw our forces from Al-Ahsa and Eran as long as they do the same as well, which they have already stated they will do. However, I also want to address the situation in Yosun with you all. I did not hear this entire meeting and therefore do not know everything that has been discussed. However, it would be greatly appreciated if someone could fill me in on discussions of Yosun's future."

"As for a USA guarded border, we will strongly discourage any nation attempting to put USA members on our border with Al-Ahsa and Eran. If peace is made, there will be no reason for us to make hostile moves against Al-Ahsa and hopefully visa versa. Additionally, Iackstorm is not in the USA and would not like the USA to maintain our national borders."
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Postby Sunrisia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:17 am

The Caliph here, said that a referendum has been carried out in Yosun, regarding its status – whether the people of the country want their land to remain independent and sovereign or do they wish to join a united Caliphate with Al-Ahsa. The voting took place and it seems that the majority of Yosunis had chosen to united with the Caliphate. Although it did seem like a fair and democratic vote has taken place, where the people of Yosun were allowed to determine their own future, many of the leaders and representatives here, including myself, criticized the referendum and it debated its legitimacy, as the Al-Ahsan army was still present within Yosun, when the vote was taking place and the votes had been counted by international observers from non-neutral countries, such as Yaramaqui and USJR. However, the Caliph had now stated that a second referendum will take place in several weeks, where the Yosunis once again will be given a right to vote on the same question – independence or unity. And this time, we were all promised that the vote would take place without the presence of any armed forces and with the attendance of international observers from neutral countries, which in my opinion should be picked out by the USA. I also personally think that the second referendum should also take place sooner and not in several weeks, before Yosun is fully assimilated, thus leaving the vote only to a be “show”. Also, I agree that the USA peacekeepers should not remain on the Iacki-Erani border, but they should definitely be temporarily placed there to observe the process of both sides withdrawing forces.

President Rellăs Famél then turned to the Caliph.

Also, Your Excellency, if you want your soldiers to stay in Yaramaqui with humanitarian purposes, that could be acceptable, but those troops must not be combat forces – the same ones that your country used in a fight against the Iacki Military. What your side must do, along with the opposing side, is withdraw combat forces from Yaramaqui and replace them with peacekeeper troops, who are not meant to carry out any fighting operations. Even the orders of your current soldiers had changed, the fact that these are combat troops remaining in Yaramaqui, will still not be accepted.
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