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by United Soviet Jason Republic » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:27 pm

by Rhodevus » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:28 pm
Rodrania wrote:Rhod, I f*cking love you, man. <3
Divergia wrote:The Canadian Polar-Potato-Moose-Cat has spoken!
Beiluxia wrote:Is it just me, or does your name keep getting better the more I see it?

by Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:28 pm
Zanera wrote:Rezua wrote:"I want to say very strongly that I am on nobody's side. My soldiers and between both Western and Eastern forces as we speak. We're not picking sides, I am trying to end this peacefully. Mr. Leon, I apologize, but stick only to the issue at hand." Ymira said.
"What if Rezuan soldiers get shot?" asked Andrew.

by Zanera » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:30 pm
United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:"It is already clear," Isaac chimed in, "That nations have already jumped to conclusions without having others present. I cannot speak for my ally who is not present, but the USJR is an active partaker in the current delema. No country can side with Iackstorm in an offensive war in which Iackstorm started as it is against their agreement with Iackstorm. Therefor I conclude that nations that are just sending troops to the region and have no proper reason to be called to arms or partake in combat should withdraw to prevent escalation. As we have seen Al-Ahsa troops were in an accidental firefight with Aznazian troops. We cannot let mistakes like that happen."

by Sunrisia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:32 pm
United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:"It is already clear," Isaac chimed in, "That nations have already jumped to conclusions without having others present. I cannot speak for my ally who is not present, but the USJR is an active partaker in the current delema. No country can side with Iackstorm in an offensive war in which Iackstorm started as it is against their agreement with Iackstorm. Therefor I conclude that nations that are just sending troops to the region and have no proper reason to be called to arms or partake in combat should withdraw to prevent escalation. As we have seen Al-Ahsa troops were in an accidental firefight with Aznazian troops. We cannot let mistakes like that happen."

by United Soviet Jason Republic » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:33 pm
Zanera wrote:United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:"It is already clear," Isaac chimed in, "That nations have already jumped to conclusions without having others present. I cannot speak for my ally who is not present, but the USJR is an active partaker in the current delema. No country can side with Iackstorm in an offensive war in which Iackstorm started as it is against their agreement with Iackstorm. Therefor I conclude that nations that are just sending troops to the region and have no proper reason to be called to arms or partake in combat should withdraw to prevent escalation. As we have seen Al-Ahsa troops were in an accidental firefight with Aznazian troops. We cannot let mistakes like that happen."
"Right. Us and the USJR shall withdraw our troops, and we shall get the other three to comply," said Martha.

by Sunrisia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:36 pm
United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:Zanera wrote:
"Right. Us and the USJR shall withdraw our troops, and we shall get the other three to comply," said Martha.
"I cannot promise that. Currently the USJR must aid Eran. in combat with Iackstorm. We are sworn to do so by our alliance. However other nations, by their alliances, are not sworn to help Iackstorm in an offensive military campaign and must withdraw." Isaac said that lightly. "The fact of the matter is simple, the USJR cannot back out unless Eran and Iackstorm come to peace. Otherwise we are sworn to aid our ally. That is how our treaty works and we cannot disobey our word of honor. If the three comply then we comply. The point is that I am making is that no other nation can send in troops and nor should they, it will worsen the situation."
"I can pressure them into making peace, we will pressure them, but the fact of the matter is that Iackstorm has fired the shots and must sue for peace with whom it has attacked."

by Zanera » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:37 pm
United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:Zanera wrote:
"Right. Us and the USJR shall withdraw our troops, and we shall get the other three to comply," said Martha.
"I cannot promise that. Currently the USJR must aid Eran. in combat with Iackstorm. We are sworn to do so by our alliance. However other nations, by their alliances, are not sworn to help Iackstorm in an offensive military campaign and must withdraw." Isaac said that lightly. "The fact of the matter is simple, the USJR cannot back out unless Eran and Iackstorm come to peace. Otherwise we are sworn to aid our ally. That is how our treaty works and we cannot disobey our word of honor. If the three comply then we comply. The point is that I am making is that no other nation can send in troops and nor should they, it will worsen the situation."
"I can pressure them into making peace, we will pressure them, but the fact of the matter is that Iackstorm has fired the shots and must sue for peace with whom it has attacked."

by Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:41 pm
United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:Zanera wrote:
"Right. Us and the USJR shall withdraw our troops, and we shall get the other three to comply," said Martha.
"I cannot promise that. Currently the USJR must aid Eran. in combat with Iackstorm. We are sworn to do so by our alliance. However other nations, by their alliances, are not sworn to help Iackstorm in an offensive military campaign and must withdraw." Isaac said that lightly. "The fact of the matter is simple, the USJR cannot back out unless Eran and Iackstorm come to peace. Otherwise we are sworn to aid our ally. That is how our treaty works and we cannot disobey our word of honor. If the three comply then we comply. The point is that I am making is that no other nation can send in troops and nor should they, it will worsen the situation."
"I can pressure them into making peace, we will pressure them, but the fact of the matter is that Iackstorm has fired the shots and must sue for peace with whom it has attacked."

by United Soviet Jason Republic » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:44 pm
Zanera wrote:
"We all must withdraw our troops in order not to raise the level of conflict. If you shall stay to help your ally, then we shall remain to prevent conflict escalation," said Shelley.

by Zanera » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:58 pm
United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:Zanera wrote:
"We all must withdraw our troops in order not to raise the level of conflict. If you shall stay to help your ally, then we shall remain to prevent conflict escalation," said Shelley.
"How will throwing more men into an inferno stop the blaze? It will not. You have already shown that you will resort to war with the drop of the hat with your own deceleration of war. Nations that have no liability or obligation to Iackstorm should leave the vicinity. It will prevent an accident that will further worsen tensions. We need diplomatic pressure not more boots. Traveling half way around the world to put men in a conflict zone will only worsen the situation and inflame both parties."
"You see, I don't want there to be a war, but I must stand with my allies. Period. No other nation has that obligation at the table. Sending more men to the region with nations that have no right to be involved will worsen everything. 'peacekeeping' is a wide term. No nation has the obligation to aid Iackstorm or aid Eran. the way the USJR does. We value our word. No other nation has a decent reason to send men in. Sending men in will only worsen the situation for those who are already involved and could be dragged in by waving around their flags where they do not belong."

by Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:23 pm

by United Soviet Jason Republic » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:27 pm
Zanera wrote:"And sending the men of the USJR army helps the situation? We are supposed to be ending this war, not supporting sides. We shall no longer take sides, just end the war. Eranshahir may not choose to end the war because of the guarantee that they will have USJR to back them up, and currently their representative is non-existent," said Shelley.
"We should all pressure the three sides, or possibly four, to withdraw their troops. Since Smoya is an ally of Iackstorm, they have some sort of obligation. We may feel we have an obligation, as the USA feels it had an obligation. If you do not withdraw, we shall bring the conflict to a close with the might of many militaries, or WWIII. I am sure you, nor no one else, wants that," said Andrew.
"Peacekeeping is a broad term. It can mean winning a war and ending the conflict. But we do not want war, do we? We must all withdraw our troops, ally or not. A better obligation to your ally would be to stop the war and end the conflict. We require your guarantee that you will not continue to support them," said James Vitchell.
"Any men from any nation will worsen the situation. All must withdraw," put in Martha.
"What you say is oxymoronic. You say adding more men will stop it, yet you mention that you throw men in to help your ally," said Wart.

by Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:32 pm
United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:Zanera wrote:"And sending the men of the USJR army helps the situation? We are supposed to be ending this war, not supporting sides. We shall no longer take sides, just end the war. Eranshahir may not choose to end the war because of the guarantee that they will have USJR to back them up, and currently their representative is non-existent," said Shelley.
"We should all pressure the three sides, or possibly four, to withdraw their troops. Since Smoya is an ally of Iackstorm, they have some sort of obligation. We may feel we have an obligation, as the USA feels it had an obligation. If you do not withdraw, we shall bring the conflict to a close with the might of many militaries, or WWIII. I am sure you, nor no one else, wants that," said Andrew.
"Peacekeeping is a broad term. It can mean winning a war and ending the conflict. But we do not want war, do we? We must all withdraw our troops, ally or not. A better obligation to your ally would be to stop the war and end the conflict. We require your guarantee that you will not continue to support them," said James Vitchell.
"Any men from any nation will worsen the situation. All must withdraw," put in Martha.
"What you say is oxymoronic. You say adding more men will stop it, yet you mention that you throw men in to help your ally," said Wart.
"If Zanera was attacked would you want the USJR to back out on you? Of course not. Eran has been attacked and we will support our ally. Until Iackstorm has pulled out I cannot pull out. If we want about disobeying every obligation we had what would that make us? We want peace, but you must understand who was the person who fired the first shot and who has a reason to be there. No other western or eastern nation besides the USJR has the justification to be in the region. We have an obligation to keep. We would do it for any of our allies.
Smoya is a defensive ally that works with Iackstorm on some offensive matters, like pirates. However they do not have an offensive military alliance that stands when Iackstorm opened fired. The USJR however does have an alliance with Eran that justifies our participation in this matter. Once again, no other country but us have any reason to be in the area.
I think the fighting is silly, but you will have to ask Iackstorm to withdraw before we pull out. This conflict is foolish and should end, however I can't end it."

by Rhodevus » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:53 pm
Rodrania wrote:Rhod, I f*cking love you, man. <3
Divergia wrote:The Canadian Polar-Potato-Moose-Cat has spoken!
Beiluxia wrote:Is it just me, or does your name keep getting better the more I see it?

by Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:05 pm
Rhodevus wrote:"Can we not at least call for a 48 hour seize-fire?" Diana said as she sat down. "Amabassadors. Rhodevus is allied with all of you here. We are allied with Yaramaqui, but have no alliance with Iackstorm, save those we get from being allies with their allies. We have little to know relations with Al-Ahsa or Eran, yet we wish to become friends with both. But before I continue, I have a question. Where are the ambassadors for these main countries?"
OOC: If I missed something and they are actually here, pretend I did not say this.

by Zanera » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:07 pm
United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:Zanera wrote:"And sending the men of the USJR army helps the situation? We are supposed to be ending this war, not supporting sides. We shall no longer take sides, just end the war. Eranshahir may not choose to end the war because of the guarantee that they will have USJR to back them up, and currently their representative is non-existent," said Shelley.
"We should all pressure the three sides, or possibly four, to withdraw their troops. Since Smoya is an ally of Iackstorm, they have some sort of obligation. We may feel we have an obligation, as the USA feels it had an obligation. If you do not withdraw, we shall bring the conflict to a close with the might of many militaries, or WWIII. I am sure you, nor no one else, wants that," said Andrew.
"Peacekeeping is a broad term. It can mean winning a war and ending the conflict. But we do not want war, do we? We must all withdraw our troops, ally or not. A better obligation to your ally would be to stop the war and end the conflict. We require your guarantee that you will not continue to support them," said James Vitchell.
"Any men from any nation will worsen the situation. All must withdraw," put in Martha.
"What you say is oxymoronic. You say adding more men will stop it, yet you mention that you throw men in to help your ally," said Wart.
"If Zanera was attacked would you want the USJR to back out on you? Of course not. Eran has been attacked and we will support our ally. Until Iackstorm has pulled out I cannot pull out. If we want about disobeying every obligation we had what would that make us? We want peace, but you must understand who was the person who fired the first shot and who has a reason to be there. No other western or eastern nation besides the USJR has the justification to be in the region. We have an obligation to keep. We would do it for any of our allies.
Smoya is a defensive ally that works with Iackstorm on some offensive matters, like pirates. However they do not have an offensive military alliance that stands when Iackstorm opened fired. The USJR however does have an alliance with Eran that justifies our participation in this matter. Once again, no other country but us have any reason to be in the area.
I think the fighting is silly, but you will have to ask Iackstorm to withdraw before we pull out. This conflict is foolish and should end, however I can't end it."
Rhodevus wrote:"Can we not at least call for a 48 hour seize-fire?" Diana said as she sat down. "Amabassadors. Rhodevus is allied with all of you here. We are allied with Yaramaqui, but have no alliance with Iackstorm, save those we get from being allies with their allies. We have little to know relations with Al-Ahsa or Eran, yet we wish to become friends with both. But before I continue, I have a question. Where are the ambassadors for these main countries?"
OOC: If I missed something and they are actually here, pretend I did not say this.

by Al-Ahsa » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:02 pm

by Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:07 pm
Al-Ahsa wrote:The Caliph arrived late, due to a medical emergency in the family. He entered the meeting, and greeted the representatives present with the traditional greeting of as-salam wa'laykum. "I wish to state that I am here representing not only the Al-Masri Caliphate, but the Empire of Eranshahir, our closest ally in these times. The Shahanshah of Eran is currently attending the funeral of family members who have passed away in the recent tragedies that have struck our nations."
Looking nervous, the Caliph, surrounded by three guards, continued to speak, "Further, I wish to state that both nations are entirely willing to withdraw troops from Iackstorm, with the agreement of Iackstorm to lay down their arms. They, I should like to remind you, attacked us making this a defensive war. If they agree to a cease fire, then we have no problems withdrawing any troops deployed into Iackstorm. However, as it has been suggested, the Caliphate is not willing to leave Yosun. The government, and now the people, of Yosun have expressed their desires to be a part of the Al-Masri Caliphate. Minorities of Yosun, that is the Christians and Jews, will be treated fairly and equally under the laws of the Caliphate, as the Christians and Jews of Al-Ahsa are. There will be no legal, ethnic, or religious persecution of them."
OOC: I am sorry for being late. I went back to the doctor's today for my Pancreatitis.

by Sunrisia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:11 pm
Al-Ahsa wrote:The Caliph arrived late, due to a medical emergency in the family. He entered the meeting, and greeted the representatives present with the traditional greeting of as-salam wa'laykum. "I wish to state that I am here representing not only the Al-Masri Caliphate, but the Empire of Eranshahir, our closest ally in these times. The Shahanshah of Eran is currently attending the funeral of family members who have passed away in the recent tragedies that have struck our nations."
Looking nervous, the Caliph, surrounded by three guards, continued to speak, "Further, I wish to state that both nations are entirely willing to withdraw troops from Iackstorm, with the agreement of Iackstorm to lay down their arms. They, I should like to remind you, attacked us making this a defensive war. If they agree to a cease fire, then we have no problems withdrawing any troops deployed into Iackstorm. However, as it has been suggested, the Caliphate is not willing to leave Yosun. The government, and now the people, of Yosun have expressed their desires to be a part of the Al-Masri Caliphate. Minorities of Yosun, that is the Christians and Jews, will be treated fairly and equally under the laws of the Caliphate, as the Christians and Jews of Al-Ahsa are. There will be no legal, ethnic, or religious persecution of them."
OOC: I am sorry for being late. I went back to the doctor's today for my Pancreatitis.

by Al-Ahsa » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:18 pm
Rezua wrote:Al-Ahsa wrote:The Caliph arrived late, due to a medical emergency in the family. He entered the meeting, and greeted the representatives present with the traditional greeting of as-salam wa'laykum. "I wish to state that I am here representing not only the Al-Masri Caliphate, but the Empire of Eranshahir, our closest ally in these times. The Shahanshah of Eran is currently attending the funeral of family members who have passed away in the recent tragedies that have struck our nations."
Looking nervous, the Caliph, surrounded by three guards, continued to speak, "Further, I wish to state that both nations are entirely willing to withdraw troops from Iackstorm, with the agreement of Iackstorm to lay down their arms. They, I should like to remind you, attacked us making this a defensive war. If they agree to a cease fire, then we have no problems withdrawing any troops deployed into Iackstorm. However, as it has been suggested, the Caliphate is not willing to leave Yosun. The government, and now the people, of Yosun have expressed their desires to be a part of the Al-Masri Caliphate. Minorities of Yosun, that is the Christians and Jews, will be treated fairly and equally under the laws of the Caliphate, as the Christians and Jews of Al-Ahsa are. There will be no legal, ethnic, or religious persecution of them."
OOC: I am sorry for being late. I went back to the doctor's today for my Pancreatitis.
"I understand why you were late. Please leave your guards outside with all the others. I will see to it that Iackstorm leaves you alone. I am glad you are leaving Yaramaqui. However, I cannot call your referendum fair. Your military was in Yosun during the referendum. I want to ensure that this the people of Yosun have a say without and press." Ymira said.
Sunrisia wrote:Al-Ahsa wrote:The Caliph arrived late, due to a medical emergency in the family. He entered the meeting, and greeted the representatives present with the traditional greeting of as-salam wa'laykum. "I wish to state that I am here representing not only the Al-Masri Caliphate, but the Empire of Eranshahir, our closest ally in these times. The Shahanshah of Eran is currently attending the funeral of family members who have passed away in the recent tragedies that have struck our nations."
Looking nervous, the Caliph, surrounded by three guards, continued to speak, "Further, I wish to state that both nations are entirely willing to withdraw troops from Iackstorm, with the agreement of Iackstorm to lay down their arms. They, I should like to remind you, attacked us making this a defensive war. If they agree to a cease fire, then we have no problems withdrawing any troops deployed into Iackstorm. However, as it has been suggested, the Caliphate is not willing to leave Yosun. The government, and now the people, of Yosun have expressed their desires to be a part of the Al-Masri Caliphate. Minorities of Yosun, that is the Christians and Jews, will be treated fairly and equally under the laws of the Caliphate, as the Christians and Jews of Al-Ahsa are. There will be no legal, ethnic, or religious persecution of them."
OOC: I am sorry for being late. I went back to the doctor's today for my Pancreatitis.
“Also, Your Excellency, the referendum was carried out without the presence of foreign observers that could evaluate if everything was done in accordance with international norms.” Said President Rellăs Famél.

by Rezua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:23 pm
Al-Ahsa wrote:Rezua wrote:
"I understand why you were late. Please leave your guards outside with all the others. I will see to it that Iackstorm leaves you alone. I am glad you are leaving Yaramaqui. However, I cannot call your referendum fair. Your military was in Yosun during the referendum. I want to ensure that this the people of Yosun have a say without and press." Ymira said.
While I understand your concerns of military presence in Yosun, currently we have no troops deployed in Yosun. After Iackstorm's declaration of war, all troops present in Yosun deployed to Iackstorm, the only representatives in Yosun at this time, are from the government.Sunrisia wrote:
“Also, Your Excellency, the referendum was carried out without the presence of foreign observers that could evaluate if everything was done in accordance with international norms.” Said President Rellăs Famél.
"Another concern I certainly understand, President Famél. However, the ballots were not counted by that of the Caliphates own government, rather it was counted by representatives of the Yaramaquese and USJR governments. The ballots were counted by two foreign nations, and no international norms were broken as such. We certainly are willing to hold an additional referendum in the future, as we intend to hold a referendum on the status of the Yosuni State, whether it will remain autonomous, as it is today with its own government remaining in place, sending representatives to the Caliphate's government and the Caliphate's government sending representatives to Yosun, or if it will be incorporated into the Caliphate proper."

by Al-Ahsa » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:27 pm
Rezua wrote:"Well I guess then this vote was fair. I still do want reports on the treatment of non-Muslims " Ymira said. "Also, I still want to know why you had so many troops go on this humanitarian aid mission. It scared many nations who had no clue what you were doing."

by Capsland » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:28 pm
Rezua wrote:Al-Ahsa wrote:While I understand your concerns of military presence in Yosun, currently we have no troops deployed in Yosun. After Iackstorm's declaration of war, all troops present in Yosun deployed to Iackstorm, the only representatives in Yosun at this time, are from the government.
"Another concern I certainly understand, President Famél. However, the ballots were not counted by that of the Caliphates own government, rather it was counted by representatives of the Yaramaquese and USJR governments. The ballots were counted by two foreign nations, and no international norms were broken as such. We certainly are willing to hold an additional referendum in the future, as we intend to hold a referendum on the status of the Yosuni State, whether it will remain autonomous, as it is today with its own government remaining in place, sending representatives to the Caliphate's government and the Caliphate's government sending representatives to Yosun, or if it will be incorporated into the Caliphate proper."
"Well I guess then this vote was fair. I still do want reports on the treatment of non-Muslims " Ymira said. "Also, I still want to know why you had so many troops go on this humanitarian aid mission. It scared many nations who had no clue what you were doing."

by Sunrisia » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:30 pm
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