Ventismar Union[OOC][Sunalaya Only]

[Allentyr]

Considering the fact the other parties are batshit nuts....

Allentyr cannot into politics... >.<

Nerp. I also question *why* I have to send a candidate. Allentyrians don't exactly give a hoot.

[Ripuaria]

Allentyr cannot into politics... >.<

Nerp. I also question *why* I have to send a candidate. Allentyrians don't exactly give a hoot.

So...Do you even want to be part of Ventismar? >.>
Or just a friend?(Maybe a member of the free-travel zone?)

[Allentyr]

Nerp. I also question *why* I have to send a candidate. Allentyrians don't exactly give a hoot.

So...Do you even want to be part of Ventismar? >.>
Or just a friend?(Maybe a member of the free-travel zone?)

>Was invited to VU by one of you (I forgot who)
>Would join but not really participate in leadership unless it starts to really affect us
>Can't be arsed to actually lead the VU
>People bitch about me possibly winning.

[Ripuaria]

So...Do you even want to be part of Ventismar? >.>
Or just a friend?(Maybe a member of the free-travel zone?)

>Was invited to VU by one of you (I forgot who)
>Would join but not really participate in leadership unless it starts to really affect us
>Can't be arsed to actually lead the VU
>People bitch about me possibly winning.

It was Lind(explains everything)

[Ripuaria]

*Official Ventismar Union Report

Ventismar Union Elections - 2015
500 Seats, 35 Parties, 5 Countries, 1 Month, 0 Vacancies

[Ripuaria]

Now that the seats are appointed we should form alliances and align each party. While the largest party of a said ideology doesn't need to head the ideology's alliance it's recommended that this would be the case.
We've already settled the following alliances and their heads:

Conservatives Alliance headed by Capslandian Conservatives
Green Conservatives Alliance headed by Kultiviert

If anyone wants their party to join and alliance, create an alliance or debate regarding the current alliances feel free to do so here. It would be nice if we could get at least 60% of the parties here an affiliated alliance

[Lindenholt]

Didn't we already make alliances?

EDIT:

"*Ahem* Elections *Ahem*
please send me lists of all the parties and their ideologies in your county who participate in the elections and the percentage of your population that voted for each country(Your population number too so I could validate with the information I have at hand)
If you want you can align your parties with one of the following alliances, simply add the abbreviation near the party name:
Green Conservatives - The Ventismarien Environmentalists Conservatives Alliance(VECA)
Normal Conservatives - Ventismar Conservatives Alliance(VCA)
Liberals - Alliance for Liberals and Centrists of Ventismar(ALC)
Greens - Ventismar United Greens Alliance(UGA)
Social Democrats - Socialists And Democrats Alliance for Ventismar(SADAV)
Ventismarskeptics - Ventismar of Freedom Alliance(VFA)
Marxists - Far-Left Alliance for Ventismar(FLAV)
Pirates - Pirates and Direct Democracy Alliance of Ventismar(P&DD)
The party/alliance with the most votes gets to raise the President of the Union and form the coalition by talking with other parties and alliances, trying to get the majority of the seats in the parliament(If they fail there they'll need to create a minority government D:)"

[Ripuaria]

Didn't we already make alliances?

EDIT:

"*Ahem* Elections *Ahem*
please send me lists of all the parties and their ideologies in your county who participate in the elections and the percentage of your population that voted for each country(Your population number too so I could validate with the information I have at hand)
If you want you can align your parties with one of the following alliances, simply add the abbreviation near the party name:
Green Conservatives - The Ventismarien Environmentalists Conservatives Alliance(VECA)
Normal Conservatives - Ventismar Conservatives Alliance(VCA)
Liberals - Alliance for Liberals and Centrists of Ventismar(ALC)
Greens - Ventismar United Greens Alliance(UGA)
Social Democrats - Socialists And Democrats Alliance for Ventismar(SADAV)
Ventismarskeptics - Ventismar of Freedom Alliance(VFA)
Marxists - Far-Left Alliance for Ventismar(FLAV)
Pirates - Pirates and Direct Democracy Alliance of Ventismar(P&DD)
The party/alliance with the most votes gets to raise the President of the Union and form the coalition by talking with other parties and alliances, trying to get the majority of the seats in the parliament(If they fail there they'll need to create a minority government D:)"

That was when I was a newbe when it comes to Union politics and I knew nothing, Apparently Alliances were suppose to be made AFTER elections(Which is more logical). You can use the names I gave there but you would still need to assign heads and affiliated parties

[Felsinean Valley]

FAUFIRA will join the Green Conservatives Alliance

Right HRAP, Autonomies and Full Ahead! may negotiate their affiliation with the Conservatives but so far they have some reservations about it

SLP is waiting for news from the Lindian and the Allentyrian Social Liberal Parties but it wants to mantain a complete autonomy in the votes

Greens are waiting for Lind and Allentyr too

Ophion Front is willing to set up a Ventiskeptic Pro-Ophion alliance, tell me if there are other MPs interested

YouFelsina seems to be the largest Pirate Party so they may head the Ventismarian Pirate Party

LPU will likely follow Capsland Labour, while the United Left is looking for a Radical Left Alliance

[Ripuaria]

The Ventismarien Environmentalists Conservatives Alliance(VECA)
Kultiviert(Ripuaria) - Head
FAUFIRA(Felsina)

Ventismar Conservatives Alliance(VCA)
Capslandian Conservatives - Head

Pirates and Direct Democracy Alliance of Ventismar(P&DD)
YouFelsina - Head
Pirates(Ripuaria)

Socialists And Democrats Alliance for Ventismar(SADAV)
Capsland Labour - Head
LPU

Ventismar of Freedom Alliance(VFA)
United Capsland - Head
Die Alternative(Ripuaria)

Independents
Ophion Front(Felsina)
Christlich Demokratische(Ripuaria)

[Ripuaria]

The Ventismarien Environmentalists Conservatives Alliance(VECA)
Kultiviert(Ripuaria) - Head
FAUFIRA(Felsina)

Ventismar Conservatives Alliance(VCA)
Capslandian Conservatives - Head

Pirates and Direct Democracy Alliance of Ventismar(P&DD)
YouFelsina - Head
Pirates(Ripuaria)

Socialists And Democrats Alliance for Ventismar(SADAV)
Capsland Labour - Head
LPU

Ventismar of Freedom Alliance(VFA)
United Capsland - Head
Die Alternative(Ripuaria)

Independents
Ophion Front(Felsina)
Christlich Demokratische(Ripuaria)

Updated to the most recent listings.

Would Lindenholt want to head the Green and Liberal/Centrists Alliances?

[Felsinean Valley]

Ventismar of Freedom Alliance isn't a good name since Ophion Front is Anti-Ventismar and Pro-Ophion. Also, they only want strongly Pro-Ophion parties as allies, if United Capsland and Die Alternative resemble UKIP and AfD that's not the case

[Capsland]

Ventismar of Freedom Alliance isn't a good name since Ophion Front is Anti-Ventismar and Pro-Ophion. Also, they only want strongly Pro-Ophion parties as allies, if United Capsland and Die Alternative resemble UKIP and AfD that's not the case

Dang, Independent it is then

[Ripuaria]

Ventismar of Freedom Alliance isn't a good name since Ophion Front is Anti-Ventismar and Pro-Ophion. Also, they only want strongly Pro-Ophion parties as allies, if United Capsland and Die Alternative resemble UKIP and AfD that's not the case

Yup, noticed that. Since it's the only pro-ophion party it's going to be independent

[Lindenholt]

I'll create the Social Liberal Front, the Liberal Party and the Social Liberal Party will be joining that.

[Ripuaria]

I'll create the Social Liberal Front, the Liberal Party and the Social Liberal Party will be joining that.

A Ventismar-related name would be better.
And for a Greens Alliance?

[Lindenholt]

The Ventismarien Environmentalists Conservatives Alliance(VECA)
Kultiviert(Ripuaria) - Head
FAUFIRA(Felsina)

Ventismar Conservatives Alliance(VCA)
Capslandian Conservatives - Head

Pirates and Direct Democracy Alliance of Ventismar(P&DD)
YouFelsina - Head
Pirates(Ripuaria)
Pirate Party (Lindenholt)

Socialists And Democrats Alliance for Ventismar(SADAV)
Capsland Labour - Head
LPU
Lindian Worker's Party
New Lindenholt
Ventismar of Freedom Alliance(VFA)
United Capsland - Head
Die Alternative(Ripuaria)

Independents
Ophion Front(Felsina)
Christlich Demokratische(Ripuaria)

Updated to the most recent listings.

Would Lindenholt want to head the Green and Liberal/Centrists Alliances?

Oh, and since you asked I'll also create the Ventismarian Greens, the Green Progressives will obviously be joining

Updated list:

The Ventismarien Environmentalists Conservatives Alliance(VECA)
Kultiviert(Ripuaria) - Head
FAUFIRA(Felsina)

Ventismar Conservatives Alliance(VCA)
Capslandian Conservatives - Head
Conservative Christian Party (Lindenholt)

Pirates and Direct Democracy Alliance of Ventismar(P&DD)
YouFelsina - Head
Pirates(Ripuaria)

Socialists And Democrats Alliance for Ventismar(SADAV)
Capsland Labour - Head
LPU
Ventismar of Freedom Alliance(VFA)
United Capsland - Head
Die Alternative(Ripuaria)
The Opposite Party
The Introverts

Independents
Ophion Front(Felsina)
Christlich Demokratische(Ripuaria)

Ventismarian Union of Social Liberals (VUSL)
Social Liberal Party (Lindenholt) -Head
Liberal Party (Lindenholt)

Ventismarian Greens (VG), the VeGgies
Green Progressives (Lindenholt) -Head

[Lindenholt]

I'll create the Social Liberal Front, the Liberal Party and the Social Liberal Party will be joining that.

A Ventismar-related name would be better.
And for a Greens Alliance?

Ventismarian Union of Social Liberals
Social Liberal Party (Lindenholt)
Liberal Party (Lindenholt)

Ventismarian Greens
Green Progressives (Lindenholt)

Good enough for you?

[Ripuaria]

A Ventismar-related name would be better.
And for a Greens Alliance?

Ventismarian Union of Social Liberals
Social Liberal Party (Lindenholt)
Liberal Party (Lindenholt)

Ventismarian Greens
Green Progressives (Lindenholt)

Good enough for you?

Hmm...You have two parties in the same alliance. Wouldn't it make more sense if they would merge into one, since they both would vote on the same basis. That or both will be independent.

[Lindenholt]

Good enough for you?

Hmm...You have two parties in the same alliance. Wouldn't it make more sense if they would merge into one, since they both would vote on the same basis. That or both will be independent.

The Social Liberals are not the same as the Liberal Party. The only reason why it's there is because that's the only "liberal" alliance.

[Ripuaria]

Hmm...You have two parties in the same alliance. Wouldn't it make more sense if they would merge into one, since they both would vote on the same basis. That or both will be independent.

The Social Liberals are not the same as the Liberal Party. The only reason why it's there is because that's the only "liberal" alliance.

The idea I had when voting in the parliament is that the head of each alliance would choose for that alliance whenever it votes FOR or AGAINST a resolution, so parties in the same alliance must have the same ideology. If you're okay with that being the case for your duplicates then fine.

[Ripuaria]

Added updated listing in the IC thread: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=339688

Parties still considering:

Lindian Worker's Party
Conservative Christian Party(Lindenholt)
New Lindenholt

Right HRAP(Felsinean Valley)
SLP(Felsinean Valley)
United Left(Felsinean Valley)
Greens(Felsinean Valley)
Full Ahead!(Felsinean Valley)
Autonomies(Felsinean Valley)

Social Liberals(Allentyr)
Patriots(Allentyr)
Green Party(Allentyr)
Conservative Union(Allentyr)
Freedom(Allentyr)

[Felsinean Valley]

The idea I had when voting in the parliament is that the head of each alliance would choose for that alliance whenever it votes FOR or AGAINST a resolution, so parties in the same alliance must have the same ideology. If you're okay with that being the case for your duplicates then fine.

It's true that the members of an alliance usually vote together, not because they're forced by rules, but because "heretic" votes would likely disappoint your allies
In the European Parliament the only exception to this habit is EFDD, where UKIP and Five Star MoVement voted together more or less 1 time every 4 votes
I think the vote of the head of the alliance should count until a party declares to vote otherwise

[Ripuaria]

The idea I had when voting in the parliament is that the head of each alliance would choose for that alliance whenever it votes FOR or AGAINST a resolution, so parties in the same alliance must have the same ideology. If you're okay with that being the case for your duplicates then fine.

It's true that the members of an alliance usually vote together, not because they're forced by rules, but because "heretic" votes would likely disappoint your allies
In the European Parliament the only exception to this habit is EFDD, where UKIP and Five Star MoVement voted together more or less 1 time every 4 votes
I think the vote of the head of the alliance should count until a party declares to vote otherwise

Yes...Now align your parties! >:D

[Felsinean Valley]

well, Full Ahead! is far right and would join VFA if admitted

United Left is still waiting for a radical left group

SLP wants to make sure not to be bothered by their allies if they vote autonomously (Social Liberals? Greens? Ventiskeptic?)

Greens -> Greens

Right HRAP and Autonomies still don't know