WorldVision Song Contest 39 | OOC/Dicussion [CLOSED]

[Ciloss]

Really? Where does it say it?

That proves you didn't read the rules.

5. A debutante nation cannot bid to host the WorldVision Song Contest. A nation must have entered and completed one Contest in order to qualify to host a Song Contest. Furthermore, a nation that has put a host bid CANNOT vote for their own bid. This ensures a democratic, and fair result.

Oh, so that's what debutante means!

[Kasanovakoratica]

Kasanova-Koratica expresses interest in re-entering, after strange circumstances* forced it to stay out of WV38.

*a wave of "Polkopia-allergy" had suddenly and inexplicably swept the nation, as reported by the Erién Times. The Senya Post-Tribunal-Gazette reported an incredible surge of ticket prices instead. The New Kallisto Bee-Press remained silent on the matter, though its constant three-month-long hour-by-hour report on the state of a random citizen's buttcrack may have been a factor.

[Todlichebujoku]

Kasanova-Koratica expresses interest in re-entering, after strange circumstances* forced it to stay out of WV38.

*a wave of "Polkopia-allergy" had suddenly and inexplicably swept the nation, as reported by the Erién Times. The Senya Post-Tribunal-Gazette reported an incredible surge of ticket prices instead. The New Kallisto Bee-Press remained silent on the matter, though its constant three-month-long hour-by-hour report on the state of a random citizen's buttcrack may have been a factor.

Confirmed.

[Ciloss]

Kasanova-Koratica expresses interest in re-entering, after strange circumstances* forced it to stay out of WV38.

*a wave of "Polkopia-allergy" had suddenly and inexplicably swept the nation, as reported by the Erién Times. The Senya Post-Tribunal-Gazette reported an incredible surge of ticket prices instead. The New Kallisto Bee-Press remained silent on the matter, though its constant three-month-long hour-by-hour report on the state of a random citizen's buttcrack may have been a factor.

Confirmed.

Am I confirmed?

[Todlichebujoku]

Confirmed.

Am I confirmed?

Oh, Kasanova-Koratica's my puppet, and puppets have to be confirmed by the main nation. You're fine. Unless you're someone's secret puppet

[Vettrera]

Vettrera signs up with song choice pending

REPLAY: Vettreran Song Contest

Vettrera has returned to Worldvision after an absense caused by the Vettreran Civil War. In the interim, the contest shifted to the protectorate of Teague, where that nation produced varied, but overall subpar stadings. As Vettrera makes their return to Worldvision, they hope to add their 3rd Top 10 finish to their resume. This year, Vettrera has selected 6 songs that are open for national and international vote. VOTING IS DONE BY TELEGRAMMING VETTRERA: 6 points for your favorite song, 5 for the next, 4, 3, 2, then 1 for the worst. Simply telegram a link to your national final if you would like Vettrera to vote in yours as well.

THE SONGS

1. Call On Me by Rebbeca Burke

2. Double Talk by The Duplex Group

3. Gravity by Joanna Brown

4. We're Going Down by Ariana Messick

5. Literary by Mason

6. Things Change by Fire Station Six

[Coreyo Entertainment]

Coreyopopstar makes its second appearance in hosting the National Finals that determine the sole contestant, who has the glorious opportunity to perform in the upcoming 39th WorldVision Song Contest, the most popular musical event in the multiverse. There are five songs that made into the Top 5, and it is up to the audience to vote for the best of the Top 5 songs. Voting will occur in the following fashion: The Top 5 Songs will be numbered 1 to 5, andvoters(audience) can telegram me with the number that corresponds with the song they like. All votes will be tallied, and whichever song has the most votes will have a good chance to be performed in the upcoming 38th WorldVision Song Contest. The scoring criterion is 60% Scores for the Three Judges(Each out of 100 points) and 40% audience voting.

The Top 5 Songs are as follows:

1. Cube Duo - Mischievous Girl
Melody: Hyunseung ft. Hyuna - Troublemaker

2. New Evolution - Love Me
Melody: 2NE1 - Lonely

3. New Evolution - Pretty
Melody: 2NE1 - Ugly
4. Externality - Closer
Melody: EXO - Call Me Baby

5. Kim Yerim - Fall Out
Melody: Lim Kim - All Right

[Silkjdian Mainland Asia]

Silkjdian Mainland Asia will return too. SMA is going to send Silkjd Mainland Asian Children Choir to sing the modified version of Majulah Silkjdia, the national anthem of Silkjd.

[Silkjd]

Silkjdian Mainland Asia will return too. SMA is going to send Silkjd Mainland Asian Children Choir to sing the modified version of Majulah Silkjdia, the national anthem of Silkjd.

Confirmed.

[Kwadai]

KwaDai's national final has come to an end with the votes being clear. The winner has proved not to have been the well liked Mohammed Sharif with his song "A Taste of Glory", nor the presumed favourite Yazmin Khalid. The actual winner has proved to be a surprise with Rania an LGBT representative and transgender coming in first place with her song "We are United". This is seen in KwaDai as a great step in showing the world just how supportive a Muslim majority country can be of LGBT rights and she hopes to make the world a better place for the LGBT community.

Rania al Mazroui was born male in 1990 as Karim al Mazroui, she felt this was incorrect and at the age of 14 came out as transgender. She was showered with acceptance from her friends and family as well as her local community in Sirte, a city in northern KwaDai. She flew to the city of Zhujiang in Ashwar to have her gender reassigned as the process was not yet available in KwaDai. Upon arrival in KwaDai she and others campaigned to allow transgender individuals to change their gender. Their efforts were realised and the legal change of gender came into effect four months later. The following year, 2006 is seen as the greatest year of LGBT rights history as of yet in KwaDai.

Artist: Rania al Mazroui
Song Title: We are United
Melody: You are Unstoppable - Conchita Wurst

[Ryccia]

The Constitutional Monarchy of Ryccia

After careful consideration of entering WorldVision, even if Ciloss, a nation that we hate, is going to compete, we have decided to enter WorldVision.

Thomas Genosol will be representing Ryccia. His song is Winds(melody: Rise Like a Phoenix, by Conchita Wurst, Eurovision 2014)



OOC: Ciloss confirmed

[Istocni]

Zapadni withdraws from WorldVision for the indefinite future, isolating itself once more. Istocni, an Izmeduan protectorate that comprises former east Izmeduan territories and has been lobbying for WV participation since WV37, will participate and make their debut in WV39 due to Zapadni's withdrawal.

Istocni sends Zorka Korosec with 'Don't Let Go!'

[Izmedu]

Zapadni withdraws from WorldVision for the indefinite future, isolating itself once more. Istocni, an Izmeduan protectorate that comprises former east Izmeduan territories and has been lobbying for WV participation since WV37, will participate and make their debut in WV39 due to Zapadni's withdrawal.

Istocni sends Zorka Korosec with 'Don't Let Go!'

Confirming puppetry.

[Chameliya]

After another fantastic Top 15 placing, CháReTe is pleased to confirm that it will be returning to the WorldVision Song Contest for it's 39^th edition. Details of our national final, Chámelíyá ko Sor, will be revealed in the following days. Thank you.

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I'm debating on whether or not Vampirum will participate in this edition or not. For now, I'm posting in case I do participate.

However, I do want to throw an opinion out there. Last edition, I noticed that some nations who did joke entries ended up with decently high placings. While the people who did more serious entries ended up in the lower positions. I'm not pointing fingers, or saying that this happened for everyone, but it's to the point now where joke entries can now get into the top 10 or even the top 15 with little or no effort. Joke entries are fine, but when they push out entries that are honestly better then that's where I see a problem. If you compare newer results to past WorldVision results the joke trend is extremely obvious. Again, just my two cents.

Maybe it's because their funny and amuse people and cause them joy...?

I think the problem is that we have a large number of ridiculous nations sending ridiculous entries that give high points to each other just because of their ridiculousness, never mind their actual quality, which just inflates the scores of these few nations. It's the puppet problem on steroids. Now some joke entries are actually quite good, but I'm finding that the whole idea is getting a little boring now.

[Al-Balansiyya]

Provisional sign-up, may not be able to compete due to exams etc.

Also, do people care if say a language that's supposed to be in a different script is not written in it for the performance? Like do people prefer it to be included or does it not matter?

[Kalosia]

Kalosia is in once again! I'm still undecided on my entry, so more on that later.

For the 40th contest, why don't we have a "WorldVision Summit"? It'd be an IC conference discussing on issues the contest currently faces. Or perhaps a "best-of-the-best" special edition which is like a normal WV except countries are only allowed to send one previous entry of choice.

[Praciba]

I'm debating on whether or not Vampirum will participate in this edition or not. For now, I'm posting in case I do participate.

However, I do want to throw an opinion out there. Last edition, I noticed that some nations who did joke entries ended up with decently high placings. While the people who did more serious entries ended up in the lower positions. I'm not pointing fingers, or saying that this happened for everyone, but it's to the point now where joke entries can now get into the top 10 or even the top 15 with little or no effort. Joke entries are fine, but when they push out entries that are honestly better then that's where I see a problem. If you compare newer results to past WorldVision results the joke trend is extremely obvious. Again, just my two cents.

The problem is that 'joke entries' (note that I do not count myself among joke entries, even though some people like to shove me in that box) are generally done by newer nations that lack the finesse and skill to do such a thing properly (this is the biggest difference between a 'joke entry' and one of my entries, for example (not trying to brag but I was the first one that came to mind)). However, saying that they push out entries that are 'honestly better' is crap as everyone chooses what to vote for for themselves (and let's face it, after the tenth song with love in it's title and about-the-same lyrics as the rest, it gets boring even when the song is technically of a high quality). What we are actually seeing is a rise in newer nations (I mean, how many nations that participate now can say that they participated 10 contests ago or similar?) that take this contest less serious and/or lack the skills to make something. This is coupled, the new trend of new nations, with the allowance of the community to have entries that murder people or otherwise do stuff on stage that would be unacceptable in real life (strippers, for example, are generally okay but murdering people isn't, obviously), an allowance that happened a whole while back. If we want to improve the quality of songs in the contest (as that's the core of the issue, as far as I see it and what I think is your core of the issue too), we should start there and make changes at the core. I try my best to make my entries enjoyable without going too far (and that's a quite easy line to cross), I'm sure that those who want violence will be able to do so as well or else find a different niche of song that fits them. If not, that just means that they probably weren't cut out to write songs and participate either way.

A different part of the problem is that it's become a normal thing to leave your entry without a performance or with so little that it ends up being no performance (there are some vocal parts in this contest that complain about low positions while doing exactly this), especially when it's concerning puppets and such. While we obviously can't force anyone to write a performance, it's also an issue that we should find a solution for as, while it can happen that you lack the time to write one, it becomes a glaring issue when it's obvious that their puppet (for example) is merely used as a point dump instead of a way to perform two songs that you like (note that I'm not saying that we should ban master-puppet voting, I'm saying that we should maintain a general level of quality among each other and have some honor).

And as a third part, you can also consider this as Praciba's participation notice.

[Britonisea]

Although my puppets are participating and not Britonisea, I would still like to ask if the Committee would like to add a link to the IC Thread, like they use to do; it is a quicker way to get to the IC thread.

[Oakbrook and Calvarie]

Oakbrook and Calvarie (puppet of Vettrera) signs up with the performance: Crash Landing by Ariel Davis.

The melody used is "Half the Man" by Rozzi Crane

[Vettrera]

Oakbrook and Calvarie (puppet of Vettrera) signs up with the performance: Crash Landing by Ariel Davis.

The melody used is "Half the Man" by Rozzi Crane

Confirmed

[Britonisea]

Kalosia is in once again! I'm still undecided on my entry, so more on that later.

For the 40th contest, why don't we have a "WorldVision Summit"? It'd be an IC conference discussing on issues the contest currently faces. Or perhaps a "best-of-the-best" special edition which is like a normal WV except countries are only allowed to send one previous entry of choice.

1. Some people want a Junior WorldVision to celebrate the 40th Edition.
2. A WorldVision Summit could happen, but I don't think it'll sort anything because we can debate things we want to change anytime.
3. I still think we should have a themed 40th Edition.
4. I really like that. Or, nations' highest pointed acts or something.

[Kalosia]

Kalosia is in once again! I'm still undecided on my entry, so more on that later.

For the 40th contest, why don't we have a "WorldVision Summit"? It'd be an IC conference discussing on issues the contest currently faces. Or perhaps a "best-of-the-best" special edition which is like a normal WV except countries are only allowed to send one previous entry of choice.

1. Some people want a Junior WorldVision to celebrate the 40th Edition.
2. A WorldVision Summit could happen, but I don't think it'll sort anything because we can debate things we want to change anytime.
3. I still think we should have a themed 40th Edition.
4. I really like that. Or, nations' highest pointed acts or something.

Actually yeah, if JWV happens then I already know what I'm going to send and I'll also choose my WV40 entry purely on whether JWV will happen or not.

are generally done by newer nations that lack the finesse and skill to do such a thing properly

I was going to point out that not all joke entries are done by newcomers (Lactatia is a puppet of veteran Polkopia) but then I noticed you said "generally"

I also hope my entries aren't considered joke entries bc I never actually intend them to be that way, unless the qualification for a joke entry is "funny-looking costumes", then sure sometimes I might (I originally wanted Suzette's costumes to have Lady Gaga-level extravagance but couldn't bring this out onto the drawing pad)

[Bad Nazis]

My entire nation is a joke, but I hope my entry wasn't seen as too much of a joke entry. After all, I didn't go on for hours or killed anyone on stage. But to be honest, Gregoryisgodistan and the Sword Bloke made me laugh the most, so that's why I gave them high points. And any entry with a Frank Sinatra song is scored high in my mind.

But then I also thought that many, although very far from all, serious entries were quite bland.

As I'm a newcomer I don't know if this whole situation is a problem or how it would be fixed in that case. Maybe the serious entries need to step up their game and add some colour, or we should be able to vote for more then 11 entries. Maybe 15? As it was now, a few songs I liked didn't get any points at all from me, as other, among them less serious, were better.

I definitely don't think humour or joke entries should be banned.

[Britonisea]

My entire nation is a joke, but I hope my entry wasn't seen as too much of a joke entry. After all, I didn't go on for hours or killed anyone on stage. But to be honest, Gregoryisgodistan and the Sword Bloke made me laugh the most, so that's why I gave them high points. And any entry with a Frank Sinatra song is scored high in my mind.

But then I also thought that many, although very far from all, serious entries were quite bland.

As I'm a newcomer I don't know if this whole situation is a problem or how it would be fixed in that case. Maybe the serious entries need to step up their game and add some colour, or we should be able to vote for more then 11 entries. Maybe 15? As it was now, a few songs I liked didn't get any points at all from me, as other, among them less serious, were better.

I definitely don't think humour or joke entries should be banned.

Me neither, however as Vampirum said, songs done in 10 minutes are getting high points and song that took a few days are getting low points. I feel for those nations.

[Dreamplanet]

My entire nation is a joke, but I hope my entry wasn't seen as too much of a joke entry. After all, I didn't go on for hours or killed anyone on stage. But to be honest, Gregoryisgodistan and the Sword Bloke made me laugh the most, so that's why I gave them high points. And any entry with a Frank Sinatra song is scored high in my mind.

But then I also thought that many, although very far from all, serious entries were quite bland.

As I'm a newcomer I don't know if this whole situation is a problem or how it would be fixed in that case. Maybe the serious entries need to step up their game and add some colour, or we should be able to vote for more then 11 entries. Maybe 15? As it was now, a few songs I liked didn't get any points at all from me, as other, among them less serious, were better.

I definitely don't think humour or joke entries should be banned.

Me neither, however as Vampirum said, songs done in 10 minutes are getting high points and song that took a few days are getting low points. I feel for those nations.

Exactly, i give fair points and i never give countries like gregoryisafakegodistan some points.