Deminis wrote:Tinfect wrote:
I am beginning to doubt you actually read the posts you are responding to...
First of all, Calm down, everything Excidium said was perfectly reasonable, you need to sit down, take a breath, and re-read his post.
Done that?
Good, let's begin.
First of all, 50,000 MPH is an incredibly fast speed for In-Atmosphere Travel, so, consider bringing that down by, 40,000, at the least. Remember, you are usually running a 100 Meter Long ship, not an SR71, and even if it was, those only made about 3.500 KPH. You seem to be trying for PMT, so try not to go over 4,000 KPH in atmosphere. Now, as for Vacuum conditions, yes, you are correct. However, you must understand that you are going to be going up against Nations that, like my own, do not stick to realistic laws nearly as much as you do. Hell, even Excidium, who is actually quite good about that has to take certain liberties with reality to get what he wants done. If you want your ships to be competitive in any sense, you are going to want to take a few of your own.
Now, as for the Warp Speed comment, that was not even directed at you. That was a simple musing that Excidium tacked onto his post, those of us who tend to use more conversational tones for text-based communication have a habit of doing that. Now, besides your misunderstanding, I agree, your first fleets should probably not have FTL, but, how do you intend to get anything done, if your ships are bound to your own Solar System? The Singaporean Civil War is not happening on your world, quite far from it in fact. How do you intend to participate in that if you cannot even reach it?
Again I say, These are SPACE SHIP, Designed to travel OUT SIDE of a planets atmosphere. If these things were to try to enter a planets atmospehere, I would probablt start crashing at around mach 1.5m (1,000mph) The speed i had listed was a MAXIMUm speed, To say that this would be after an hour of acceleration to even reach that speed(Probably longer). I am basing my speed of modern satellites, Not super jets.
The thing about Warp speed was ment to be a joke, It was a referance to a certain show where a guy built a ship out of a scrap yard, and it had warp speed on accident XD.
As for my unrealistic standard for realism. You would be very surprised what i could do if i used all the technology that the world has to offer in this day of age. I would literally just super heat some hydrogen in an aluminum orb and boom i have a plasma unit capable of tearing though 100 feet (Yes feet) Of Steel. Or i could use a conic shaped barrel with a hydrogen combustion that would create a Wave air so compressed that its been known for breaking though the ozone layer (And then some). I do not need fiction, All i need is the time to get the good tech. (although you did remind me of the Hydrogen/Aluminum plasma units, Those could make some awesome bombs...)
As for the Location of my ships, The solution to that is in the Ringworld IC, Put that there yesterday.Excidium Planetis
157,000 miles per hour is not the maximum speed of satellites, it is the speed they are orbiting at. They can go faster if you refilled them and engaged the thrusters and didn't care if they escaped Entry's orbit.
I was talking about how I needed to edit my factbook because my craft have only warp speed listed, not your craft. Don't accuse me of starting shit I didn't start.
No, you do not go as fast as the propellant. Law of conservation of momentum: If the mass of the propellant is less than the mass of your ship, it will accelerate faster than your ship. If the propellent is more massive, your ship will accelerate faster than the propellent. Basic Physics, please go to high school before yelling at me.
Furthermore, yes you can accelerate indefinitely, as long as you have enough fuel, don't hit anything, and don't hit lightspeed. A car can continue to speed up until air resistance reaches the same force as the force of the car's engines. Terminal velocity. But in space, there is no air resistance. Your ship will continue to speed up as long as your thrusters are exerting a force on your ship and nothing else is opposing it. Until lightspeed, of course.
Sorry but no. The Helios Is the fastest spacecraft currently, With a maximum speed of 253,000 kilometers (157,000 miles) per hour, used to go around the fucking SUN.
And a spacecraft will only continue to accerate so long as the propelling force is greater than the motion of the craft itself, That is Very Very basic physics. An object can not accelerate past the force applied to it.
Not to mention you are explaining the Constant Thrust , not the Constant Accelertion, Two Very VERY differant forms of travel. Here, Learn some differances
1) who the fuck cares what the fastest ship is? Whatever speed it is orbiting or traveling at is not its maximum speed. It can can go faster if it has more fuel!
2) No. F***ing no. A force of 1 newton on a 1 kg object will accelerate it by 1 meter per second per second no matter what f***ing speed it is going. This is very very basic physics. You are seriously showing a complete lack of knowledge in this area, and in top of that acting like an ass who knows everything. You asked for spaceship advice, and I gave you real world physics: The only maximum speed in space is lightspeed. You can always go faster than whatever speed your ship has, as long as a net force is still acting on it.
3) Yes, I am explaining constant thrust, and not constant acceleration. But Constant thrust is indefinite acceleration, since the ship is accelerating the whole flight, but unlike Constant acceleration the rate of acceleration is not the same. Note that in both forms of travel, the only maximum speed is lightspeed.
