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Talking behind people's backs

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Vistora
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Founded: May 25, 2015
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Postby Vistora » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:16 am

Excidium Planetis wrote:
Vistora wrote:

Hehe, yeah, I know. Honestly, the utter lack of control drives me fucking bananas, though I have managed to wrestle Vistora in more or less the right direction thus far (though I have been trying for 100 economy for ages now, and I'm going insane over it).

Being a heartless capitalist who cuts taxes at every opportunity works.

Once you reach that part, avoid the tax code issue like the plague, and start being a bit nicer to poor people, fund education and the environment, etc.


Yep, that's more or less what I've been doing. I used to jump at the chance to implement laissez-faire policies, but considering that they often do NOT do one's economy well, I've had to be more careful. Also, I always increase education funding when I get the chance.

Given how fundamentally different the workings of computers and human intelligence are, that would not be plausible in any realistic setting like mine. The best you could hope for is creating an army of people genetically engineered to possess the traits of savants, though that just entails a bunch of people with calculative abilities far exceeding that of normal people, but still a minuscule fraction of computers.

A normal human brain outperforms personal computers in most ways, so a genetically engineered human would probably have modern tech computers beat if you did things right. I mean yeah, you aren't going to be beating supercomputers, but you're working with something smaller than a basketball here, not some large room with nitrogen cooling systems and stuff.


I know I know, it's just that humans and digital computers exceed in such vastly different regards that one cannot necessarily perform the role of the other. Computers have organic intelligence easily beat in terms of raw mathematical computation, yet cannot even approach our abilities of higher cognition.

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Vistora
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Postby Vistora » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:18 am


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Nayba Collective
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Founded: Dec 24, 2015
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Postby Nayba Collective » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:21 am


And I thought I was spending a lot of free time on Ashkera...
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Vistora
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Founded: May 25, 2015
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Postby Vistora » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:23 am

Nayba Collective wrote:

And I thought I was spending a lot of free time on Ashkera...


Oddly enough, the amount of writing I get done is proportional to the amount of schoolwork I have to avoid

Okay, maybe not so much these days, but that used to be the case since I started writing this last year.
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The Great Devourer of All
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Founded: Dec 26, 2015
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Postby The Great Devourer of All » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:29 am

Vistora wrote:
Nayba Collective wrote:And I thought I was spending a lot of free time on Ashkera...


Oddly enough, the amount of writing I get done is proportional to the amount of schoolwork I have to avoid

Okay, maybe not so much these days, but that used to be the case since I started writing this last year.


F*ck. You've written more about a little PMT nation than I will probably ever write about an entire canon filled with incomprehensibly big godnations, each with thousands of universes to talk about. It just goes to show how single-planet nations can sometimes be so much more interesting than what I tend to lean towards in my nations.

I think this is the point in every discussion where I suddenly become really, really under-qualified. That is, if we haven't reached that already.
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New Frenco Empire
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:34 am

Singaporean Transhumans wrote:(Image)

Because I spend minutes making a NATO military symbol map and no one pays any attention so I'll just plop up the enhanced Spetsnaz group.

For future reference Novak is omnipotent.

I asked what it was about and you never got back to me. :<

Also, NS stats in a nutshell.
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Western Pacific Territories
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Founded: Apr 29, 2015
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Western Pacific Territories » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:37 am

The Great Devourer of All wrote:
Vistora wrote:
Oddly enough, the amount of writing I get done is proportional to the amount of schoolwork I have to avoid

Okay, maybe not so much these days, but that used to be the case since I started writing this last year.


F*ck. You've written more about a little PMT nation than I will probably ever write about an entire canon filled with incomprehensibly big godnations, each with thousands of universes to talk about. It just goes to show how single-planet nations can sometimes be so much more interesting than what I tend to lean towards in my nations.

I think this is the point in every discussion where I suddenly become really, really under-qualified. That is, if we haven't reached that already.

Become the wildlings or white walkers and *DESTROY EVERYTHING* in your path, leaving nothing.

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Vistora
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Founded: May 25, 2015
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Postby Vistora » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:37 am

The Great Devourer of All wrote:
Vistora wrote:
Oddly enough, the amount of writing I get done is proportional to the amount of schoolwork I have to avoid

Okay, maybe not so much these days, but that used to be the case since I started writing this last year.


F*ck. You've written more about a little PMT nation than I will probably ever write about an entire canon filled with incomprehensibly big godnations, each with thousands of universes to talk about. It just goes to show how single-planet nations can sometimes be so much more interesting than what I tend to lean towards in my nations.

I think this is the point in every discussion where I suddenly become really, really under-qualified. That is, if we haven't reached that already.


That is why limits are SO DAMN IMPORTANT! If you don't have a proper limiting framework, then it's nearly impossible to know where to start. What can you write about a multiversal transcendence that isn't either the same old tropes of universe-threatening or universe-creating beings recycled over and over? Me, I have a wide cast of largely modern humans within a futuristic-yet-familiar setting. Oddly enough, my limiting factors of technological, political, and sociopsychological realism gives me subjects to form a story around, and thus material to add. Nobody wants to hear the story of Joe the Starbelcher's daily tribulations at his job of Supernova Catalysis.

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Vistora
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Founded: May 25, 2015
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Postby Vistora » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:51 am

New Frenco Empire wrote:
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:(Image)

Because I spend minutes making a NATO military symbol map and no one pays any attention so I'll just plop up the enhanced Spetsnaz group.

For future reference Novak is omnipotent.

I asked what it was about and you never got back to me. :<

Also, NS stats in a nutshell.


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This, so much this

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HYDRA-Russian Empire
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Founded: Jan 15, 2015
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Postby HYDRA-Russian Empire » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:03 am

Happy (upcoming) New Year everyone!
I hope that you have a great end to 2015 and a great start to 2016! See you next year!!!
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Vistora
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Founded: May 25, 2015
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Postby Vistora » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:06 am

HYDRA-Russian Empire wrote:
Happy (upcoming) New Year everyone!
I hope that you have a great end to 2015 and a great start to 2016! See you next year!!!


Frohes Neujahr? I'm pretty sure that's how it's said.

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HYDRA-Russian Empire
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Founded: Jan 15, 2015
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Postby HYDRA-Russian Empire » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:07 am

Vistora wrote:
HYDRA-Russian Empire wrote:
Happy (upcoming) New Year everyone!
I hope that you have a great end to 2015 and a great start to 2016! See you next year!!!


Frohes Neujahr? I'm pretty sure that's how it's said.

In what language?
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Blakullar
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Blakullar » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:07 am

HYDRA-Russian Empire wrote:
Happy (upcoming) New Year everyone!
I hope that you have a great end to 2015 and a great start to 2016! See you next year!!!

And to yourself. :)

Anyway, my father and I have been brainstorming a hilarious prank to play on a pizza company. Order pizza at quarter to twelve, then when it arrives twenty minutes later, yell at the delivery guy because the pizza was ordered the year before. The only problem with that is that there are no pizza shops open at quarter to twelve...
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Vistora
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Postby Vistora » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:09 am

HYDRA-Russian Empire wrote:
Vistora wrote:
Frohes Neujahr? I'm pretty sure that's how it's said.

In what language?


Deutsch!

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HYDRA-Russian Empire
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Postby HYDRA-Russian Empire » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:09 am

Blakullar wrote:
HYDRA-Russian Empire wrote:
Happy (upcoming) New Year everyone!
I hope that you have a great end to 2015 and a great start to 2016! See you next year!!!

And to yourself. :)

Anyway, my father and I have been brainstorming a hilarious prank to play on a pizza company. Order pizza at quarter to twelve, then when it arrives twenty minutes later, yell at the delivery guy because the pizza was ordered the year before. The only problem with that is that there are no pizza shops open at quarter to twelve...

Nice ;)
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HYDRA-Russian Empire
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Postby HYDRA-Russian Empire » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:10 am

Vistora wrote:
HYDRA-Russian Empire wrote:In what language?


Deutsch!

Oh!!
Well, the same to you! :D
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Silkaeth
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Founded: Dec 29, 2015
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Postby Silkaeth » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:12 am

HYDRA-Russian Empire wrote:
Happy (upcoming) New Year everyone!
I hope that you have a great end to 2015 and a great start to 2016! See you next year!!!

2016... Well, still no hoverboards and flying cars. Anyway, happy new year to all!
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Vistora
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Founded: May 25, 2015
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Postby Vistora » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:13 am

Silkaeth wrote:
HYDRA-Russian Empire wrote:
Happy (upcoming) New Year everyone!
I hope that you have a great end to 2015 and a great start to 2016! See you next year!!!

2016... Well, still no hoverboards and flying cars. Anyway, happy new year to all!


I'm so glad you said that.

Image

My favorite is the "floating cities" one. I've actually consulted structural and civil engineers here at the UW about the plausibility of my nation's creation, and how it would be done, so I know full well the difficulties of sticking a city anywhere but solid ground.
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Gigaverse
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Postby Gigaverse » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:14 am

im in 2016 alredy schkrubs, happee old year

Seriously though, may you have a year of gradual post quality improvement :p
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Blakullar
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Postby Blakullar » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:18 am

Vistora wrote:
Silkaeth wrote:2016... Well, still no hoverboards and flying cars. Anyway, happy new year to all!


I'm so glad you said that.

*snip*

BUT! the Russians are working towards getting a moon colony up by 2024, and we might be settling Mars by 2020.

Which brings me to an interesting question for the League. If you, personally, could live anywhere in the Solar System, with complete disregard for expense, where would you build your house and why?
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Silkaeth
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Postby Silkaeth » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:20 am

Blakullar wrote:
Vistora wrote:
I'm so glad you said that.

*snip*

BUT! the Russians are working towards getting a moon colony up by 2024, and we might be settling Mars by 2020.

Which brings me to an interesting question for the League. If you, personally, could live anywhere in the Solar System, with complete disregard for expense, where would you build your house and why?

Probably Europa, it's always been my favourite object within the Solar System. And I could go ice fishing, provided it's oceans exist.
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Vistora
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Postby Vistora » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:20 am

Blakullar wrote:
Vistora wrote:
I'm so glad you said that.

*snip*

BUT! the Russians are working towards getting a moon colony up by 2024, and we might be settling Mars by 2020.

Which brings me to an interesting question for the League. If you, personally, could live anywhere in the Solar System, with complete disregard for expense, where would you build your house and why?


About six kilometers from where I am right now, at the top of that really fancy high-rise condominium.

Extraterrestrial environments are overrated.
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Western Pacific Territories
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Western Pacific Territories » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:22 am

Blakullar wrote:
Vistora wrote:
I'm so glad you said that.

*snip*

BUT! the Russians are working towards getting a moon colony up by 2024, and we might be settling Mars by 2020.

Which brings me to an interesting question for the League. If you, personally, could live anywhere in the Solar System, with complete disregard for expense, where would you build your house and why?

I would build it somewhere on Jupiter's (or was it Saturns?) moon, Europa. There is a strong possibility there could be water on Europa and it'd be in Saturn's rings.

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Gigaverse
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Postby Gigaverse » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:23 am

Blakullar wrote:
Vistora wrote:
I'm so glad you said that.

*snip*

BUT! the Russians are working towards getting a moon colony up by 2024, and we might be settling Mars by 2020.

Which brings me to an interesting question for the League. If you, personally, could live anywhere in the Solar System, with complete disregard for expense, where would you build your house and why?

I'd move to Central Europe ASAP. Anywhere in Central Europe.
Art-person(?). Japan liker. tired-ish.
Student in linguistics ???. On-and-off writer.
MAKE CAKE NOT stupidshiticanmakefunof.
born in, raised in and emigrated from vietbongistan lolol
Operating this polity based on preferences and narrative purposes
clowning incident | clowning incident | bottom text
can produce noises in (in order of grasp) vietbongistani, oldspeak
and bonjourois (learning weebspeak and hitlerian at uni)

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Silkaeth
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Founded: Dec 29, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Silkaeth » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:23 am

Western Pacific Territories wrote:
Blakullar wrote:BUT! the Russians are working towards getting a moon colony up by 2024, and we might be settling Mars by 2020.

Which brings me to an interesting question for the League. If you, personally, could live anywhere in the Solar System, with complete disregard for expense, where would you build your house and why?

I would build it somewhere on Jupiter's (or was it Saturns?) moon, Europa. There is a strong possibility there could be water on Europa and it'd be in Saturn's rings.

Jupiter, not Saturn.
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