The League of Mechanocracies (Open, MT/PMT/FT, OOC, Signups)

[Singaporean Transhumans]

Usually the "diplomatic approach" options gets you Harmony.

btw lev destroyers are dope

They are.
Scary when you see 3 of them advancing on your coastal capital.

Speaking of which how did you have so much time to play hundreds of times?

[Versail]

They are.
Scary when you see 3 of them advancing on your coastal capital.

Speaking of which how did you have so much time to play hundreds of times?

Most of them are duel maps and I normally go for domination games.
Most of my games are a few hours at the most.
But sometimes I play for days on end taking breaks for sleep.

[Atomic Utopia]

I took this and got harmony.
Which is weird because in my several hundred play throughs I only played as harmony once, Supremacy 49, and Purity 234.
Yes I keep a tally.

Usually the "diplomatic approach" options gets you Harmony.

btw lev destroyers are dope

So how good is the game? I saw the reviews and got scared, but now I might actually purchase it assuming it is indeed a good game.

[Excidium Planetis]

Last time I checked, freedom from slavery was not a Sapient right, at least not in the WA, which only banned human trafficking.

Protection of Sapient Rights is a WA resolution I drafted awhile back. I put in on hold for the Rules Consortium, but it doesn't look like things will change, so I think I'll submit it.

No one ever said the Imperium only used WA Definitions for Sapient Rights.

But our slaves are not Imperium citizens. They are residents of Excidium Planetis, so the only rights given to them are given by our nation or by an international organization our nation is a member of, such as the WA.

So, then you are waging a war to enforce rights they do not have?

I also question how you plan on "enforcing" these "rights". How do you plan to free these slaves?

[Excidium Planetis]

I know that the Brrin are defined here.

There is a little bit of info on both in my FT storefront Gizmos and Gadgets Surplus, since I sell them there. Click the Atlas link in my sig (in news), and then click the Gizmos Banner there. Under "Alien Slaves" on the storefront.

@Atomic Utopia
Are your Alcubierre drives plain old "hard" Alcubierre Drives? Need to know if you warping in destroyed some of my ships with captured energy.

Bump for Atomic Utopia to answer.

[Atomic Utopia]

No one ever said the Imperium only used WA Definitions for Sapient Rights.

But our slaves are not Imperium citizens. They are residents of Excidium Planetis, so the only rights given to them are given by our nation or by an international organization our nation is a member of, such as the WA.

So, then you are waging a war to enforce rights they do not have?

I also question how you plan on "enforcing" these "rights". How do you plan to free these slaves?

Read and weep:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30&p=335&hilit=ban+on+slavery#p335 (Hint: GA outlawed it)

And if my nation finds this out IC...

a complex cost-benefit analysis will be made to determine weather or not to liberate the slaves, probably tending on the liberate side.

[Aeiouia]

Yeah. You better keep that secret-in-character. Aeiouia would enact any non-military thing that we can to get the slaves out of your hands if we found out, and I know that Tinfect and Fylmeria would consider attacking you in an effort to liberate them.

[Atomic Utopia]

There is a little bit of info on both in my FT storefront Gizmos and Gadgets Surplus, since I sell them there. Click the Atlas link in my sig (in news), and then click the Gizmos Banner there. Under "Alien Slaves" on the storefront.

@Atomic Utopia
Are your Alcubierre drives plain old "hard" Alcubierre Drives? Need to know if you warping in destroyed some of my ships with captured energy.

Bump for Atomic Utopia to answer.

They are "hard" Alcubierre drives (except when it is more fun for them not to be), hence the inability to see anything around them, the flashes of light they produce when warping in, fun when they ram into planets etc. However it should be noted that an Alcubirre drive would create a flash of energy that is highly directional (I think), so if my ships were not pointed directly at your fleet, then your fleet will be fine.

[Tinfect]

But our slaves are not Imperium citizens. They are residents of Excidium Planetis, so the only rights given to them are given by our nation or by an international organization our nation is a member of, such as the WA.

So, then you are waging a war to enforce rights they do not have?

I also question how you plan on "enforcing" these "rights". How do you plan to free these slaves?

Of course they are not Imperial Citizens, by the sounds of it, they are not truly Excidium Citizens either. The Imperium, will defend the rights of Sapient Life, as defined by the Imperium, regardless of whether or not they currently reside within the Imperium.

Now, of course, Enforcement, would involve toppling your Government, Seizing your Worldship, hunting down and Capturing/Destroying any of your craft that do not surrender, and granting all citizens, and Slaves of Excidium Planetis, Imperial Citizenship.

[Versail]

Usually the "diplomatic approach" options gets you Harmony.

btw lev destroyers are dope

So how good is the game? I saw the reviews and got scared, but now I might actually purchase it assuming it is indeed a good game.

What did these reviews say?

[Atomic Utopia]

So how good is the game? I saw the reviews and got scared, but now I might actually purchase it assuming it is indeed a good game.

What did these reviews say?

It got a "Mixed" on steam, generally stating that it was unoriginal and did not have that good of game-play.

[Versail]

What did these reviews say?

It got a "Mixed" on steam, generally stating that it was unoriginal and did not have that good of game-play.

It does use the various food, culture and other such systems from civ5 as well as it's tile system but I think it's a very good game.

[Excidium Planetis]

But our slaves are not Imperium citizens. They are residents of Excidium Planetis, so the only rights given to them are given by our nation or by an international organization our nation is a member of, such as the WA.

So, then you are waging a war to enforce rights they do not have?

I also question how you plan on "enforcing" these "rights". How do you plan to free these slaves?

Read and weep:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30&p=335&hilit=ban+on+slavery#p335 (Hint: GA outlawed it)

And if my nation finds this out IC...

a complex cost-benefit analysis will be made to determine weather or not to liberate the slaves, probably tending on the liberate side.

GA#23 only bans human trafficking. The WA has never banned alien slavery.

[Singaporean Transhumans]

What did these reviews say?

It got a "Mixed" on steam, generally stating that it was unoriginal and did not have that good of game-play.

these days standards for vid games go too far

who cares

it just has the feel

[Excidium Planetis]

But our slaves are not Imperium citizens. They are residents of Excidium Planetis, so the only rights given to them are given by our nation or by an international organization our nation is a member of, such as the WA.

So, then you are waging a war to enforce rights they do not have?

I also question how you plan on "enforcing" these "rights". How do you plan to free these slaves?

Of course they are not Imperial Citizens, by the sounds of it, they are not truly Excidium Citizens either. The Imperium, will defend the rights of Sapient Life, as defined by the Imperium, regardless of whether or not they currently reside within the Imperium.

Now, of course, Enforcement, would involve toppling your Government, Seizing your Worldship, hunting down and Capturing/Destroying any of your craft that do not surrender, and granting all citizens, and Slaves of Excidium Planetis, Imperial Citizenship.

They haven't passed their citizenship tests yet.

How do you plan on doing that? Capturing a heavily defended ship with 600 million citizens who legally allowed to own military grade weapons?

[Tinfect]

They haven't passed their citizenship tests yet.

And so they are Slaves? That makes no sense whatsoever.

How do you plan on doing that? Capturing a heavily defended ship with 600 million citizens who legally allowed to own military grade weapons?

Yes.
Imperial Soldiers are equipped with Powered Armour, Pulse Rifles, personal Energy Shielding, and the most advanced Armour Technology the Imperium can efficiently place on Powered Armour. Besides that, we have Armour support that likely outclasses your own by quite a bit, things such as our Grand Praetor Main Battle Tank. We are not afraid to use Planetcrackers to destroy your Scimitars, while our own Dreadnoughts, assorted Capital Ships, and Battleships massacre the rest of your fleet. We can, and will, follow the Reckoner wherever it goes. Beyond that, we clearly have allies in Atomic Utopia, and the Archailects.

The war may be long, it may even be hard. Millions, possibly Hundreds, of millions will die. But Excidium Planetis will not be among the survivors.

[Allancia]

They haven't passed their citizenship tests yet.

And so they are Slaves? That makes no sense whatsoever.

How do you plan on doing that? Capturing a heavily defended ship with 600 million citizens who legally allowed to own military grade weapons?

Yes.
Imperial Soldiers are equipped with Powered Armour, Pulse Rifles, personal Energy Shielding, and the most advanced Armour Technology the Imperium can efficiently place on Powered Armour. Besides that, we have Armour support that likely outclasses your own by quite a bit, things such as our Grand Praetor Main Battle Tank. We are not afraid to use Planetcrackers to destroy your Scimitars, while our own Dreadnoughts, assorted Capital Ships, and Battleships massacre the rest of your fleet. We can, and will, follow the Reckoner wherever it goes. Beyond that, we clearly have allies in Atomic Utopia, and the Archailects.

The war may be long, it may even be hard. Millions, possibly Hundreds, of millions will die. But Excidium Planetis will not be among the survivors.

But I thought Allancia was the Imperium

[Tinfect]

But I thought Allancia was the Imperium

You are not the only Imperium here.
However, surely there is room for us both in the League?

[Allancia]

But I thought Allancia was the Imperium

You are not the only Imperium here.
However, surely there is room for us both in the League?

@Rememebers Imperium of Man.
@Remembers both you and I are Socialist.
Yeah okay das cool.

[Atomic Utopia]

GA#23 only bans human trafficking. The WA has never banned alien slavery.

That is a very, very evil thing to do, skirting WA regs like that.

[Aeiouia]

That is a very, very evil thing to do, skirting WA regs like that.

Indeed. As stated earlier, Aeiouia will probably take all possible non-violent actions to liberate your slaves if we find out in-character.

This will probably involve demanding their freedom as payment if we win the battle at Olber. Honestly, it would make a good plot point, as Aeiouia was planning on just pretending to fight your forces and letting you easily take the world without any resistance, since it has little value to us, and we do not want to hurt your soldiers by mistake.

However, if we are fighting for the freedom of an alien race, you can expect us to actually take the battle really seriously.

[Atomic Utopia]

That is a very, very evil thing to do, skirting WA regs like that.

Indeed. As stated earlier, Aeiouia will probably take all possible non-violent actions to liberate your slaves if we find out in-character.

This will probably involve demanding their freedom as payment if we win the battle at Olber. Honestly, it would make a good plot point, as Aeiouia was planning on just pretending to fight your forces and letting you easily take the world without any resistance, since it has little value to us, and we do not want to hurt your soldiers by mistake.

However, if we are fighting for the freedom of an alien race, you can expect us to actually take the battle really seriously.

I wonder if it could be a joint operation. I no doubt will have a fleet go and attempt to clean up the mess my insane admiral has made and provide support for the Excidium Planetis citizens affected by the attempted nuking of the Homeship. It is only logical for support to be withheld until they give the slaves to us so we can free them.

That is assuming my nation does find out, because it is bad form to act on the statements in an OOC thread as intel for your IC nation.

[Tinfect]

I wonder if it could be a joint operation. I no doubt will have a fleet go and attempt to clean up the mess my insane admiral has made and provide support for the Excidium Planetis citizens affected by the attempted nuking of the Homeship. It is only logical for support to be withheld until they give the slaves to us so we can free them.

That is assuming my nation does find out, because it is bad form to act on the statements in an OOC thread as intel for your IC nation.

Hey, if your ships stick around long enough for the Imperium to find out, you will likely find out when we demand the surrender of Excidium Planetis for their crimes against sapient life.

[Atomic Utopia]

I wonder if it could be a joint operation. I no doubt will have a fleet go and attempt to clean up the mess my insane admiral has made and provide support for the Excidium Planetis citizens affected by the attempted nuking of the Homeship. It is only logical for support to be withheld until they give the slaves to us so we can free them.

That is assuming my nation does find out, because it is bad form to act on the statements in an OOC thread as intel for your IC nation.

Hey, if your ships stick around long enough for the Imperium to find out, you will likely find out when we demand the surrender of Excidium Planetis for their crimes against sapient life.

So how big is your empire? what 50, 300 billion people?

[Tinfect]

So how big is your empire? what 50, 300 billion people?

Just over 67 Billion people, at the moment.
And suddenly your factbook gives you 829 Billion.
What.