The League of Mechanocracies (Open, MT/PMT/FT, OOC, Signups)

[Deminis]

Yeah i kind of figured, Besides a Tsar would bring a ton of mass on my ship XD. But another question, concerning my thrusters, Would having multiple thrusters increase my Delta-V And if so would each thruster add the same, or would it be ratio of the acceleration added?

More engines adds redundancy and a bit greater acceleration, however more engines will not increase acceleration as much as having a bigger engine will, but one big engine does not add redundancy. Both will add mass, reducing Delta-V with the same fuel tank size, thus reducing the speed it will be able to reach once it uses up all of it's fuel.

So with my current fuel type (Hydrogen) being contained in two to four 10mx10mx20m fueltanks (2000 liters of fuel each) And the Large engines only being used in gravitational situations (Due to higher exhaust rate w/ fuel exhaustion). The Delta-V i have no my ships i got figuring in the Exhaust speed from one VISMIR plasma engine. So did i short my self out, is my actual question?

[Atomic Utopia]

More engines adds redundancy and a bit greater acceleration, however more engines will not increase acceleration as much as having a bigger engine will, but one big engine does not add redundancy. Both will add mass, reducing Delta-V with the same fuel tank size, thus reducing the speed it will be able to reach once it uses up all of it's fuel.

So with my current fuel type (Hydrogen) being contained in two to four 10mx10mx20m fueltanks (2000 liters of fuel each) And the Large engines only being used in gravitational situations (Due to higher exhaust rate w/ fuel exhaustion). The Delta-V i have no my ships i got figuring in the Exhaust speed from one VISMIR plasma engine. So did i short my self out, is my actual question?

Assuming you are using liquid hydrogen (and your ship is not too big), that is sufficient, and VISMIR engines will work just fine if you are using them as the engines of your ship, not the engines on the missiles.

Now what is the mass of your spaceship with fuel and without?

[Deminis]

So with my current fuel type (Hydrogen) being contained in two to four 10mx10mx20m fueltanks (2000 liters of fuel each) And the Large engines only being used in gravitational situations (Due to higher exhaust rate w/ fuel exhaustion). The Delta-V i have no my ships i got figuring in the Exhaust speed from one VISMIR plasma engine. So did i short my self out, is my actual question?

Assuming you are using liquid hydrogen (and your ship is not too big), that is sufficient, and VISMIR engines will work just fine if you are using them as the engines of your ship, not the engines on the missiles.

Now what is the mass of your spaceship with fuel and without?

Hpu Being my nations name for the VISMIR engines
I have yet to set what exhaust speed is for what size engine. but these are the set ups for my two battlecruiser models

Dry Mass: 25,000 Tons
Wet Mass: 203,571 Tons

Eight 15m Dia. HPU
Two 25m Dia HPU

and

Dry Mass: 56,000 Tons
Wet Mass: 85,9571 Tons

Eight 15m Dia. HPU
Four 25m Dia HPU
Two 40m Dia HPU

[Atomic Utopia]

Assuming you are using liquid hydrogen (and your ship is not too big), that is sufficient, and VISMIR engines will work just fine if you are using them as the engines of your ship, not the engines on the missiles.

Now what is the mass of your spaceship with fuel and without?

Hpu Being my nations name for the VISMIR engines
I have yet to set what exhaust speed is for what size engine. but these are the set ups for my two battlecruiser models

Dry Mass: 25,000 Tons
Wet Mass: 203,571 Tons

Eight 15m Dia. HPU
Two 25m Dia HPU

and

Dry Mass: 56,000 Tons
Wet Mass: 85,9571 Tons

Eight 15m Dia. HPU
Four 25m Dia HPU
Two 40m Dia HPU

Did some calculations, and it looks like your first ship would have a specific impulse of about 6000 seconds with the Delta-V value listed on your factbook page, in other words, well within the realm of ion drive possibility.

[Deminis]

Hpu Being my nations name for the VISMIR engines
I have yet to set what exhaust speed is for what size engine. but these are the set ups for my two battlecruiser models

Dry Mass: 25,000 Tons
Wet Mass: 203,571 Tons

Eight 15m Dia. HPU
Two 25m Dia HPU

and

Dry Mass: 56,000 Tons
Wet Mass: 85,9571 Tons

Eight 15m Dia. HPU
Four 25m Dia HPU
Two 40m Dia HPU

Did some calculations, and it looks like your first ship would have a specific impulse of about 6000 seconds with the Delta-V value listed on your factbook page, in other words, well within the realm of ion drive possibility.

Wait what!?! Isnt that around 50Km/s exhaust velocity??? That would mean my ships are VERY underhanded for what i gave them!

[Atomic Utopia]

Wait what!?! Isnt that around 50Km/s exhaust velocity??? That would mean my ships are VERY underhanded for what i gave them!

58 thousand meters a second to be precise, about 8 thousand more than VASMIR at it's best, but because this is PMT, it is plausible. And no, your ships are about right. Easily able to take a tour of the solar system.

[Deminis]

Wait what!?! Isnt that around 50Km/s exhaust velocity??? That would mean my ships are VERY underhanded for what i gave them!

58 thousand meters a second to be precise, about 8 thousand more than VASMIR at it's best, but because this is PMT, it is plausible. And no, your ships are about right. Easily able to take a tour of the solar system.

So the Delta-V they are at is good then? okay.

You said somethign about not using the VISMIR as a missile engine? what should i be using then? i figured the Vismir would be a very fast was to deliver a payload. OH! the heat from the Engines isnt it?

[Atomic Utopia]

58 thousand meters a second to be precise, about 8 thousand more than VASMIR at it's best, but because this is PMT, it is plausible. And no, your ships are about right. Easily able to take a tour of the solar system.

So the Delta-V they are at is good then? okay.

You said somethign about not using the VISMIR as a missile engine? what should i be using then? i figured the Vismir would be a very fast was to deliver a payload. OH! the heat from the Engines isnt it?

No, they need a reactor and weigh a ton, on a big spaceship this is no problem, but on a small missile this is a problem. Another option would be a nuclear thermal rocket, that would get rid of the extra weight added by the VISMIR engines and add more thrust at the cost of Delta-V.

[Excidium Planetis]

Actually, supernova do it.

But I was in error, Tinfect's Planetcracker only deals out 1.12344x10^26 Joules, while Supernovas can be up to 10^44 Joules... quintillion times more powerful. No wonder our nation fears them.

Nevermind not dropping a Zero.
But, if you insist on destroying our Planetcracker, we will fire on your Ships. A Rassvet Class Dreadnought is not to be trifled with, and the Enclave II is able to defend itself, marginally well, at least.

No, you still need to drop one or two zeroes off your speed.

Your planetcracker may be weaker than a supernova, but it's still 500 million times more powerful the 50 Megaton Tsar Bomb, the most powerful nuclear weapon ever.

[Tinfect]

Your planetcracker may be weaker than a supernova, but it's still 500 million times more powerful the 50 Megaton Tsar Bomb, the most powerful nuclear weapon ever.

I am fully aware, granted, 500 Million is a bit much.
I'll drop the one Zero, and we'll call it good, yeah?

[Versail]

Do you do observers from primarily human nations here?

[Singaporean Transhumans]

Do you do observers from primarily human nations here?

OFCOURSE

As long as you at least don't discriminate against sentient AI.

[Excidium Planetis]

Do you do observers from primarily human nations here?

I am 99% human. Deminis is human. I think Allancia is human.
Yeah.

[Versail]

Do you do observers from primarily human nations here?

OFCOURSE

As long as you at least don't discriminate against sentient AI.

I don't.

[Aeiouia]

I am 99% human. Deminis is human. I think Allancia is human.
Yeah.

Wait. What is that 1%?

[Excidium Planetis]

Your planetcracker may be weaker than a supernova, but it's still 500 million times more powerful the 50 Megaton Tsar Bomb, the most powerful nuclear weapon ever.

I am fully aware, granted, 500 Million is a bit much.
I'll drop the one Zero, and we'll call it good, yeah?

Sure. I believe at 100c you should only have about 5 million Tsar Bombs. Still excessive for space battles, but good enough for planet cracking.

[Excidium Planetis]

I am 99% human. Deminis is human. I think Allancia is human.
Yeah.

Wait. What is that 1%?

Foreigners. A few sapient AIs, a couple million alien slaves, mainly Birrin and Takt'leks.

[Tinfect]

a couple million alien slaves, mainly Birrin and Takt'leks.

wait what

[Singaporean Transhumans]

OFCOURSE

As long as you at least don't discriminate against sentient AI.

I don't.

Then apply.

[Aeiouia]

wait what

I know that the Brrin are defined here.

[Tinfect]

wait what

I know that the Brrin are defined here.

Allow me to re-emphasize

a couple million alien slaves

wait what

[Allancia]

I don't.

Then apply.

Can I get their app, assuming I can work it out in the morning?

[Excidium Planetis]

wait what

I know that the Brrin are defined here.

There is a little bit of info on both in my FT storefront Gizmos and Gadgets Surplus, since I sell them there. Click the Atlas link in my sig (in news), and then click the Gizmos Banner there. Under "Alien Slaves" on the storefront.

@Atomic Utopia
Are your Alcubierre drives plain old "hard" Alcubierre Drives? Need to know if you warping in destroyed some of my ships with captured energy.

[Praesidia]

a couple million alien slaves

wait what

Nothing like some good old fashioned space slavery...

[Tinfect]

There is a little bit of info on both in my FT storefront Gizmos and Gadgets Surplus, since I sell them there. Click the Atlas link in my sig (in news), and then click the Gizmos Banner there. Under "Alien Slaves" on the storefront.

Yeah, no, in the Imperium a slave trade is grounds for invasion.
Might want to keep that a secret In-Character.