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[Acheronis]

Not really, hydrogen bombs (thermonuclear bombs more correctly), while insanely powerful, do not vaporize things that well because they are not that powerful, and in space our plan is to vaporize them to cut a hole in them. To put it simply, your Tsar Bomba is going to only cut a hole fifty to a hundered meters into them at most. A simpler and more elegant solution would be to focus a bunch of lasers on them and fire nuclear shaped charges at them with the goal of getting them to overheat, cooking the people/computers on the inside of the ship without the need to cut a hole in it.

Oh no, No, I did not say hydrogen bombs, i said Hydrogen Plasma Bombs, that is to say upon detonation they release a highly magnetic plasma. Said plasma will melt its way though the armor until it finally cools, which will take a long time, Granted it wouldn't break it right away... a full 200m deep by 20m wide carving though the around their center of mass? that will weaken them enough to break them in half with a small nuke.
Even if the armor is not magnetic, there has to be some iron or steel based support structure in the center, enough so the Plasma will be attracted.

Alternatively, you could launch antimatter at a specific point on the hull, if you possess such technology. After all, a quantities measured in grams will be required to achieve destructive effect comparable with conventional nuclear weapons; one gram of antimatter annihilating with one gram of matter produces 180 terajoules, the equivalent of 42.96 kilotons of TNT.

[Aeiouia]

Yeah, I did the calculations for Tinfect's cannons as well. They fire rounds at 1000c (Somehow), so yeah. Big number of joules. Not even worth typing it out.

[Tinfect]

Yeah, I did the calculations for Tinfect's cannons as well. They fire rounds at 1000c (Somehow), so yeah. Big number of joules. Not even worth typing it out.

112344397342102000000000000 Joules.

If it helps, we do not know how they work either.
It was designed by a complete madman who's end goal was the complete annihilation of most forms of life in the universe.
Naturally, we provided him with everything he needed to achieve this goal in the name of the Imperium.

We are not even sure if he died, just that he disappeared with his entire research division about 60 Standard Years ago.

[Atomic Utopia]

Yeah, I did the calculations for Tinfect's cannons as well. They fire rounds at 1000c (Somehow), so yeah. Big number of joules. Not even worth typing it out.

112344397342102000000000000 Joules.

Actually you will get an complex number if you calculate the mass/time-flow of something at greater than 1c (which translates to energy). To put it simply, you are a very naughty empire and have broken the fundamental laws of the universe, and as such the universe will punish you with forcing you to have your projectiles move perpendicular to time, and other such weirdness.

[Allancia]

Oh no, No, I did not say hydrogen bombs, i said Hydrogen Plasma Bombs, that is to say upon detonation they release a highly magnetic plasma. Said plasma will melt its way though the armor until it finally cools, which will take a long time, Granted it wouldn't break it right away... a full 200m deep by 20m wide carving though the around their center of mass? that will weaken them enough to break them in half with a small nuke.
Even if the armor is not magnetic, there has to be some iron or steel based support structure in the center, enough so the Plasma will be attracted.

Alternatively, you could launch antimatter at a specific point on the hull, if you possess such technology. After all, a quantities measured in grams will be required to achieve destructive effect comparable with conventional nuclear weapons; one gram of antimatter annihilating with one gram of matter produces 180 terajoules, the equivalent of 42.96 kilotons of TNT.

You're intellectual. I like you.

[Tinfect]

112344397342102000000000000 Joules.

Actually you will get an complex number if you calculate the mass/time-flow of something at greater than 1c (which translates to energy). To put it simply, you are a very naughty empire and have broken the fundamental laws of the universe, and as such the universe will punish you with forcing you to have your projectiles move perpendicular to time, and other such weirdness.

Subspace is truly a wonderful thing.

[Excidium Planetis]

Alternatively, you could launch antimatter at a specific point on the hull, if you possess such technology. After all, a quantities measured in grams will be required to achieve destructive effect comparable with conventional nuclear weapons; one gram of antimatter annihilating with one gram of matter produces 180 terajoules, the equivalent of 42.96 kilotons of TNT.

You're intellectual. I like you.

Funny, I made a factbook of such calculations for antimatter weapons earlier today.

[Excidium Planetis]

Set up new RP thread, Fatal Error, Excidium Planetis, you are invited if you have not noticed the TG I sent you.

If any of you are interested in joining in on the chaos, please TG me.

I got around to making a post, so people with plausible reasons to be there can TG Atomic Utopia and post if they have approval. Aeiouia can post, since I gave the go ahead.

[Praesidia]

What do you guys include as far as technical specs go for spacecraft? I'm working on creating a factbook but so far all I have is general descriptions and pictures. If anyone has a good factbook example entry that you wouldn't mind my using for a basis in my entries, feel free to link it!

[Allancia]

What do you guys include as far as technical specs go for spacecraft? I'm working on creating a factbook but so far all I have is general descriptions and pictures. If anyone has a good factbook example entry that you wouldn't mind my using for a basis in my entries, feel free to link it!

Same here, except for an orbat.

[Tinfect]

What do you guys include as far as technical specs go for spacecraft? I'm working on creating a factbook but so far all I have is general descriptions and pictures. If anyone has a good factbook example entry that you wouldn't mind my using for a basis in my entries, feel free to link it!

Atomic Utopia has a quite good one, http://www.nationstates.net/nation=atom ... /id=317008
Although, if you do not quite have exact numbers and specifications for everything, or are running a significantly Softer-FT than AU, mine is probably a good place to start, although I do not have any images for it.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=tinf ... /id=408385

If you use a style similar to mine, Another factbook to describe just how effective your weapons and armour are, is recommended, but that is quite a bit of research, something that I am still working on myself. Whatever you do, Steal AU's formatting, as it is far better than mine.

[Praesidia]

Thanks Tinfect!

[Deminis]

The Plasma Bombs i was referencing to earlier are actually very very hot, If made properly they can reach temperatures equal to that of the core of our sun. As long as i can find a way to quickly force a fully positive charge on the hydrogen ions....Yeah.

[Atomic Utopia]

The Plasma Bombs i was referencing to earlier are actually very very hot, If made properly they can reach temperatures equal to that of the core of our sun. As long as i can find a way to quickly force a fully positive charge on the hydrogen ions....Yeah.

Those exist (but not in the way you think) and are called thermonuclear bombs, thermonuclear bombs get far hotter than the core of the sun when detonated, and are not too complex.

Here is the basic concept. Fission bombs emit x-rays, tons of x-rays during detonation. These can be reflected using x-ray mirrors to the fusion secondary. This secondary has a second pit in the center. When the x-rays ablate the outer layer of the secondary, compressing the secondary, the pit in the secondary becomes prompt supercritical, spewing neutrons into the compressed and now quite hot secondary. These neutrons impact lithium atoms causing them to split into tritium and helium. By using lithium duturide you can have a supply of duturium there too to fuse with the tritium. When the duturium and tritium fuse this causes a neutron to be released, creating another tritium atom. After a hundered or so nanoseconds the bomb blows itself apart due to the fact that now everything in the bomb is a gas.

*I am not responsible for your death should you do this at home and find out how much I left out

[Atomic Utopia]

What do you guys include as far as technical specs go for spacecraft? I'm working on creating a factbook but so far all I have is general descriptions and pictures. If anyone has a good factbook example entry that you wouldn't mind my using for a basis in my entries, feel free to link it!

Same here, except for an orbat.

That is far more simple. An OrBat or Order of Battle is a realitively simple to make document for RP purposes (they are also used IRL). All people are asking for when they want an OrBat is:

-The number and type of units participating (number and type of space doom ships)

-The battle groups (battalions, legions, etc.)

-The composition of said battle groups

-Who commands this mess

-In some cases the command structure.

You can safely ignore the last one if they do not ask for that specifically.

[Allancia]

Same here, except for an orbat.

That is far more simple. An OrBat or Order of Battle is a realitively simple to make document for RP purposes (they are also used IRL). All people are asking for when they want an OrBat is:

-The number and type of units participating (number and type of space doom ships)

-The battle groups (battalions, legions, etc.)

-The composition of said battle groups

-Who commands this mess

-In some cases the command structure.

You can safely ignore the last one if they do not ask for that specifically.

Unfortunately, I can't say I have a "Goliath Class Mega-Destroyer Scout Cruiser" if you don't know what the hell that is.

[Tinfect]

Unfortunately, I can't say I have a "Goliath Class Mega-Destroyer Scout Cruiser" if you don't know what the hell that is.

In words of glorious european union:

"Write Factbook."
- Kim Hussein Marx III

[Allancia]

Unfortunately, I can't say I have a "Goliath Class Mega-Destroyer Scout Cruiser" if you don't know what the hell that is.

In words of glorious european union:

"Write Factbook."
- Kim Hussein Marx III

Fair enough.
Also, "Kim Hussein Marx III."

[Excidium Planetis]

What do you guys include as far as technical specs go for spacecraft? I'm working on creating a factbook but so far all I have is general descriptions and pictures. If anyone has a good factbook example entry that you wouldn't mind my using for a basis in my entries, feel free to link it!

Same here, except for an orbat.

I recommend listing:
Length
Weapons Systems
Armor Type
Δv or acceleration
Warp Speed if applicable
Crew numbers

And some "do as I say, not as I have done":
Sensor systems
Armor thickness

In a factbook, and that should cover 90% of your ships' capabilities.

[Deminis]

The Plasma Bombs i was referencing to earlier are actually very very hot, If made properly they can reach temperatures equal to that of the core of our sun. As long as i can find a way to quickly force a fully positive charge on the hydrogen ions....Yeah.

Those exist (but not in the way you think) and are called thermonuclear bombs, thermonuclear bombs get far hotter than the core of the sun when detonated, and are not too complex.

Here is the basic concept. Fission bombs emit x-rays, tons of x-rays during detonation. These can be reflected using x-ray mirrors to the fusion secondary. This secondary has a second pit in the center. When the x-rays ablate the outer layer of the secondary, compressing the secondary, the pit in the secondary becomes prompt supercritical, spewing neutrons into the compressed and now quite hot secondary. These neutrons impact lithium atoms causing them to split into tritium and helium. By using lithium duturide you can have a supply of duturium there too to fuse with the tritium. When the duturium and tritium fuse this causes a neutron to be released, creating another tritium atom. After a hundered or so nanoseconds the bomb blows itself apart due to the fact that now everything in the bomb is a gas.

*I am not responsible for your death should you do this at home and find out how much I left out

No, that is not what i am talking about. I am forcing a positive charge into a container of neutrally charged hydrogen, Once charged the hydrogen will expand, causing the container to discharge, but not as an explosion, more like a liter bottle of diet coke and mentos. That effect spraying the super heated plasma on to the ship would let the plasma just melt through the armor with ease. I am not basing this off bombs, but off the effect hydrogen has when charged.this is somethign i might actually use in a number of interesting designs, magnetic plasma mines and even a plasma shield if i used it right, at a negative charge for the shield though, to give it protective properties against energy weapons.

Perhaps later on in cannon my nation can use controlled magnetic fields to generate something similar to a light saber, A Plasma Blade?

[Excidium Planetis]

Those exist (but not in the way you think) and are called thermonuclear bombs, thermonuclear bombs get far hotter than the core of the sun when detonated, and are not too complex.

Here is the basic concept. Fission bombs emit x-rays, tons of x-rays during detonation. These can be reflected using x-ray mirrors to the fusion secondary. This secondary has a second pit in the center. When the x-rays ablate the outer layer of the secondary, compressing the secondary, the pit in the secondary becomes prompt supercritical, spewing neutrons into the compressed and now quite hot secondary. These neutrons impact lithium atoms causing them to split into tritium and helium. By using lithium duturide you can have a supply of duturium there too to fuse with the tritium. When the duturium and tritium fuse this causes a neutron to be released, creating another tritium atom. After a hundered or so nanoseconds the bomb blows itself apart due to the fact that now everything in the bomb is a gas.

*I am not responsible for your death should you do this at home and find out how much I left out

No, that is not what i am talking about. I am forcing a positive charge into a container of neutrally charged hydrogen, Once charged the hydrogen will expand, causing the container to discharge, but not as an explosion, more like a liter bottle of diet coke and mentos. That effect spraying the super heated plasma on to the ship would let the plasma just melt through the armor with ease. I am not basing this off bombs, but off the effect hydrogen has when charged.this is somethign i might actually use in a number of interesting designs, magnetic plasma mines and even a plasma shield if i used it right, at a negative charge for the shield though, to give it protective properties against energy weapons.

Perhaps later on in cannon my nation can use controlled magnetic fields to generate something similar to a light saber, A Plasma Blade?

1) Unfortunately Wikipedia is not working for me right now, so I cannot verify if such a weapon actually exists or is plausible. Nevertheless, I doubt it would work on Aeiouia's Contigo ships, most likely the plasma will cool from heating the armor long before it melts 200 meters down.
2) Sadly, any plasma weapon hot enough to work like a lightsaber would be better mailed to your enemies as a gift: the heat will likely kill the wielder.

[Atomic Utopia]

No, that is not what i am talking about. I am forcing a positive charge into a container of neutrally charged hydrogen, Once charged the hydrogen will expand, causing the container to discharge, but not as an explosion, more like a liter bottle of diet coke and mentos. That effect spraying the super heated plasma on to the ship would let the plasma just melt through the armor with ease. I am not basing this off bombs, but off the effect hydrogen has when charged.this is somethign i might actually use in a number of interesting designs, magnetic plasma mines and even a plasma shield if i used it right, at a negative charge for the shield though, to give it protective properties against energy weapons.

Perhaps later on in cannon my nation can use controlled magnetic fields to generate something similar to a light saber, A Plasma Blade?

Oh, I see, so something like an hydrogen plasma blowtorch? I wonder if you could use a fission fragmentation reactor as a way to create the plasma, as there is two options to making plasma, high temperature, and high electric current.

But those plasma mines and shield would be worthless, it is more effective to use a nuclear bomb as a landmine or use thin metal foil as a whipple shield, which would be much lighter and not need a constant energy supply.

[Excidium Planetis]

Yeah, I did the calculations for Tinfect's cannons as well. They fire rounds at 1000c (Somehow), so yeah. Big number of joules. Not even worth typing it out.

112344397342102000000000000 Joules.

If it helps, we do not know how they work either.
It was designed by a complete madman who's end goal was the complete annihilation of most forms of life in the universe.
Naturally, we provided him with everything he needed to achieve this goal in the name of the Imperium.

We are not even sure if he died, just that he disappeared with his entire research division about 60 Standard Years ago.

Tinfect, I am afraid that for our own safety we have to destroy your planet cracker. It will literally destroy the whole star system, and probably neighboring ones too.

[Allancia]

112344397342102000000000000 Joules.

If it helps, we do not know how they work either.
It was designed by a complete madman who's end goal was the complete annihilation of most forms of life in the universe.
Naturally, we provided him with everything he needed to achieve this goal in the name of the Imperium.

We are not even sure if he died, just that he disappeared with his entire research division about 60 Standard Years ago.

Tinfect, I am afraid that for our own safety we have to destroy your planet cracker. It will literally destroy the whole star system, and probably neighboring ones too.

Sustained 360 degree energy expansion for hundreds of millions of miles?

[Tinfect]

Tinfect, I am afraid that for our own safety we have to destroy your planet cracker. It will literally destroy the whole star system, and probably neighboring ones too.

Do not worry about it too much, I was planning on dropping a Zero from that number since I heard how powerful it actually was anyway.
So it should not actually destroy the Solar System, just everything even remotely close to Aeiouia's ship. Which is what I expected it to do anyway.