The United Left [OOC|SIGN-UP|6.0]

[Ardoki]

From what I gathered so far, Ardoki would receive separate "civilisation" in Kojiro's theory. Since from what I know about your nation Ardoki is Collectivistic (good of group before individual), Asteoprioristic (system developed upon philosophy and meditative method), Negationalistic (progress and putting future before history), sameness (generally attempt to enforce the save worldview on each citizen), mechanism (seeing society as mechanism) and embracing law monism (? not sure here, but that is what I suspect), Kojiro would classify Ardoki separately. He would write that Ardoki is at this point starting to embrace civilisation of death, but their traditional civilisation resembled it much before.

Since at this point your nation is not similar to western society .

Generally the theory of civilisations was based on ideas of Polish historians Feliks Koneczny. Koneczny did a lot of good to describe the civilisations and the laws that govern them and which characterize them, but started to roll down when he started to put civilisations in a hierarchy. I however modified his theory a lot, and added few concepts such as "civilisation of death".

We are kind of a riddle.

Our culture is traditionally very humanistic and progressive. We are collectivist with all citizens being part of the state, yet we have a thriving capitalist private sector which makes us quite individualist (we are not personalist though). We are definitely Asteoprioristic, Negationalistic, Mechanistic, and Sameness(tistic?).
What do you mean by monism though? (The Big Bang Theory is accepted in my country as fact, so in that way us accepting everything originally being of the same substance, would make us monists.

[New Aeyariss]

Monism and dualism of the law is something different. Monism is where there is one law for both public and private sphere; dualism is when both spheres are regulated by different law systems.

[Ardoki]

Monism and dualism of the law is something different. Monism is where there is one law for both public and private sphere; dualism is when both spheres are regulated by different law systems.

We have one, unified legal system for the entire nation. If that is what you mean.

If not, could you please explain it further? Perhaps with examples?

Thank you.

[New Aeyariss]

Monism and dualism of the law is something different. Monism is where there is one law for both public and private sphere; dualism is when both spheres are regulated by different law systems.

We have one, unified legal system for the entire nation. If that is what you mean.

If not, could you please explain it further? Perhaps with examples?

Thank you.

That is exactly what I meant .

[Ardoki]

We have one, unified legal system for the entire nation. If that is what you mean.

If not, could you please explain it further? Perhaps with examples?

Thank you.

That is exactly what I meant .

Yeah, then. We have a sing;e unified legal system for the whole Greater Empire.

All laws must be singed off by the Imperatormagnus, and then passed through the Imperial Senate.

[Vedria]

Hej

About tiem

[New Jordslag]

From what I gathered so far, Ardoki would receive separate "civilisation" in Kojiro's theory. Since from what I know about your nation Ardoki is Collectivistic (good of group before individual), Asteoprioristic (system developed upon philosophy and meditative method), Negationalistic (progress and putting future before history), sameness (generally attempt to enforce the save worldview on each citizen), mechanism (seeing society as mechanism) and embracing law monism (? not sure here, but that is what I suspect), Kojiro would classify Ardoki separately. He would write that Ardoki is at this point starting to embrace civilisation of death, but their traditional civilisation resembled it much before.

Since at this point your nation is not similar to western society .

Generally the theory of civilisations was based on ideas of Polish historians Feliks Koneczny. Koneczny did a lot of good to describe the civilisations and the laws that govern them and which characterize them, but started to roll down when he started to put civilisations in a hierarchy. I however modified his theory a lot, and added few concepts such as "civilisation of death".

I see.

Then what would Jordslag be?

[New Jordslag]

Hej

Yo, Boji. Long time no see.

And I got elected to a Political Position for once. I actually did not expect that at all.

[The United Motherland]

is voting over?

no one has voted

let's close this before some of us go to bed

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

is voting over?

no one has voted

let's close this before some of us go to bed

It's pretty much over. We're pretty much out of people

[The United Motherland]

is voting over?

no one has voted

let's close this before some of us go to bed

It's pretty much over. We're pretty much out of people

exactly what i said

but I mean we need to close this offically, transfer the account, etc.

[Alosteq Diin Nastja]

I don't mind about my membership being revoked (the UL hasn't done any military action for a while, and I wouldn't really need or ask for military assistance as I don't really get into wars willy nilly, I haven't been in a war since last year and that was only a minor intervention), as long as I am still allowed to post here and interact with you guys.

Respect? Seniority does not grant superiority.
Those aren't human rights. It's really fascist, at it's core. It should not be allowed anywhere near this alliance.

Perhaps you should only describe something fascist when it is actually fascist. I wouldn't think of my country as a far-right ultra-nationalist state.

Anyway. Yes, my citizens don't have political rights. However they have very generous social rights; they are guaranteed free healthcare, free education, a job, housing, good pay and working conditions and hours. They are prosperous and have a high living standard, those who try to overthrow the state and implement right-wing economic and social police are rightfully imprisoned and re-educated.

Would you prefer us to have right-wing economic and/or social policies, as long as we were a democracy?
Why does it matter what political freedoms our citizens have, as long as they are protected, happy, and have a high living standard?

Kven has voted that Ardoki's membership shall be revoked until the latter straightens up.

Who is Kven?

Could you please link me to his first application for the united left?

Who is Kven?

Could you please link me to his first application for the united left?

Never mind, I found it.

He has only been in the UL for two months. I've been here since the very first week of it.

Of course you'll still be allowed to be here!

Kven is a (now former, since elections are over) commissar.

I don't know where people got the whole idea of age = power. It doesn't apply in the UL, ever.

[The UL Administrator]

- ANNOUNCEMENT -

The elections are officially over! Congratulations to Vedria, United Remnants of America, and New Jordslag for winning! Good luck. The transferring of the account will commence shortly.

[The United Motherland]

I don't mind about my membership being revoked (the UL hasn't done any military action for a while, and I wouldn't really need or ask for military assistance as I don't really get into wars willy nilly, I haven't been in a war since last year and that was only a minor intervention), as long as I am still allowed to post here and interact with you guys.


Perhaps you should only describe something fascist when it is actually fascist. I wouldn't think of my country as a far-right ultra-nationalist state.

Anyway. Yes, my citizens don't have political rights. However they have very generous social rights; they are guaranteed free healthcare, free education, a job, housing, good pay and working conditions and hours. They are prosperous and have a high living standard, those who try to overthrow the state and implement right-wing economic and social police are rightfully imprisoned and re-educated.

Would you prefer us to have right-wing economic and/or social policies, as long as we were a democracy?
Why does it matter what political freedoms our citizens have, as long as they are protected, happy, and have a high living standard?


Who is Kven?

Could you please link me to his first application for the united left?


Never mind, I found it.

He has only been in the UL for two months. I've been here since the very first week of it.

Of course you'll still be allowed to be here!

Kven is a (now former, since elections are over) commissar.

I don't know where people got the whole idea of age = power. It doesn't apply in the UL, ever.

Things change. Experience shows people can do things - when people are in a bad position they want someone to help them and do it well. Age never matters - I'm young. But do I have experience where I work? Yes. And that shows I can do that thing.

[Vedria]

- ANNOUNCEMENT -

The elections are officially over! Congratulations to Vedria, United Remnants of America, and New Jordslag for winning! Good luck. The transferring of the account will commence shortly.

Hohohoho

[Alosteq Diin Nastja]

Of course you'll still be allowed to be here!

Kven is a (now former, since elections are over) commissar.

I don't know where people got the whole idea of age = power. It doesn't apply in the UL, ever.

Things change. Experience shows people can do things - when people are in a bad position they want someone to help them and do it well. Age never matters - I'm young. But do I have experience where I work? Yes. And that shows I can do that thing.

Yes, that is true. But somehow, people have gotten into their heads the idea that just because they've been here a little longer than everybody else it means that they have a special status (This is all in the context of the UL).

[The United Remnants of America]

Things change. Experience shows people can do things - when people are in a bad position they want someone to help them and do it well. Age never matters - I'm young. But do I have experience where I work? Yes. And that shows I can do that thing.

Yes, that is true. But somehow, people have gotten into their heads the idea that just because they've been here a little longer than everybody else it means that they have a special status (This is all in the context of the UL).

*Wearing "special snowflake" star proudly*

I was elected on that platform. It was literally half my speech.

[Alosteq Diin Nastja]

Yes, that is true. But somehow, people have gotten into their heads the idea that just because they've been here a little longer than everybody else it means that they have a special status (This is all in the context of the UL).

*Wearing "special snowflake" star proudly*

I was elected on that platform. It was literally half my speech.

But if you weren't elected, that would still give you no more power than say, Kven before he was elected Commissar.

[The United Remnants of America]

*Wearing "special snowflake" star proudly*

I was elected on that platform. It was literally half my speech.

But if you weren't elected, that would still give you no more power than say, Kven before he was elected Commissar.

Yeah, but I'd still have my honorary title....


Wait... Do I have to give that up, now?

[New Jordslag]

But if you weren't elected, that would still give you no more power than say, Kven before he was elected Commissar.

Yeah, but I'd still have my honorary title....


Wait... Do I have to give that up, now?

Nah, keep it. Honorary titles don't give you any more power.

[Zunkwentania]

But if you weren't elected, that would still give you no more power than say, Kven before he was elected Commissar.

Yeah, but I'd still have my honorary title....


Wait... Do I have to give that up, now?

Don't worry, God-King.

[The United Remnants of America]

Yeah, but I'd still have my honorary title....


Wait... Do I have to give that up, now?

Don't worry, God-King.

I meant the other title, lol.

[Zunkwentania]

Don't worry, God-King.

I meant the other title, lol.

Eh, well, Military Advisor seems too official, IMO.

[Alosteq Diin Nastja]

But if you weren't elected, that would still give you no more power than say, Kven before he was elected Commissar.

Yeah, but I'd still have my honorary title....


Wait... Do I have to give that up, now?

Nah, your good. Now you can be God-King, Military Advisor, Commissar Comrade URA. I myself have a full title: Glorifuk Caliph, Language God, Acronym King, Only 4th World Leader Comrade Alolerd

[Vedria]

So, seeing as I'm in charge nao, along with two other dudes, here's a lowdown of shit I want to get done.

ICly, we'll make a strategic defence body(NORAD, but for teh whole UL), expand influence and maybe fite SACTO in a proxy war. A proper proxy war.

OOCly, I'll be pushing for an RP with SACTO, which would be the said proxy war. Also I'd like to expand member base by recruitment.

If ya'll aren't chill with any of that, please, do let me know.