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Ardoki
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:34 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Ardoki wrote:That's why I try not to get involved in wars (and also because I'm not a military expert). Limited wars are fine I guess, yet some people seek total annihilation of their opponent, which kind of destroys the RP (as no one would want their nation destroyed, which they devoted time and effort to and had fun with). It is the same with nuclear launches, the RPs usually just die.

I'm no where near a military expert but I still do them.

Most people aren't. Though some are better than others in such areas. Politics and diplomacy are a lot more simple to understand though.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:41 pm

Technically as man with RL experience in those matters (I am speaking about military now) I must say that you do not have to be expert of any kind to participate in them.

All you need is frankly a good writing skills and cooperativeness. Experience in tactics and technology will come over time.

And frankly, from war RPs I have done; loss teaches you a thousand things, victory only one. To not be afraid to loose, because if you do, you will not make mistake that cause it again.
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:51 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:Technically as man with RL experience in those matters (I am speaking about military now) I must say that you do not have to be expert of any kind to participate in them.

All you need is frankly a good writing skills and cooperativeness. Experience in tactics and technology will come over time.

And frankly, from war RPs I have done; loss teaches you a thousand things, victory only one. To not be afraid to loose, because if you do, you will not make mistake that cause it again.

Losing a war is fine. Losing your country is not.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:52 pm

Ardoki wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:Technically as man with RL experience in those matters (I am speaking about military now) I must say that you do not have to be expert of any kind to participate in them.

All you need is frankly a good writing skills and cooperativeness. Experience in tactics and technology will come over time.

And frankly, from war RPs I have done; loss teaches you a thousand things, victory only one. To not be afraid to loose, because if you do, you will not make mistake that cause it again.

Losing a war is fine. Losing your country is not.

We wouldn't have to lose a country. We'd just lose a bit of pride, which honestly can be lost at a expendable cost to others.
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:54 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Losing a war is fine. Losing your country is not.

We wouldn't have to lose a country. We'd just lose a bit of pride, which honestly can be lost at a expendable cost to others.

Certain people, wish to achieve total victory and unconditional surrender.
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Postby Vedria » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:03 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:We wouldn't have to lose a country. We'd just lose a bit of pride, which honestly can be lost at a expendable cost to others.

Certain people, wish to achieve total victory and unconditional surrender.


People can always RP their reconstruction, or maybe even change their entire nation into something new, or even live on as an underground resistance.

The point is, even if a total victory is achieved, the loser may still live on.
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:12 pm

I saw how you posted about me Feng. What have I ever done to you?

I had never heard of, nor would/do I want to join your little alliance. So there's no use in insulting me and banning me from your as of yet non-existent thread.
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Postby New Jordslag » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:28 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:I'm no where near a military expert but I still do them.

Most people aren't. Though some are better than others in such areas. Politics and diplomacy are a lot more simple to understand though.

Politics are far from simple.
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:43 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Most people aren't. Though some are better than others in such areas. Politics and diplomacy are a lot more simple to understand though.

Politics are far from simple.

Personally, I think war is simpler than politics.
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:43 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Most people aren't. Though some are better than others in such areas. Politics and diplomacy are a lot more simple to understand though.

Politics are far from simple.

I personally think it is simple compared to military RPing. In my experience there are a lot less arguments.

However that is just my opinion.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:24 pm

Ardoki wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Politics are far from simple.

I personally think it is simple compared to military RPing. In my experience there are a lot less arguments.

However that is just my opinion.


Because there are no technical details in them.
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:30 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I personally think it is simple compared to military RPing. In my experience there are a lot less arguments.

However that is just my opinion.


Because there are no technical details in them.

Exactly. I'm not an expert on military equipment, its capabilities and how it works.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:32 pm

Ardoki wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
Because there are no technical details in them.

Exactly. I'm not an expert on military equipment, its capabilities and how it works.


You do not have to be to RP war.

There are people who are, and they will be willing to help. Though people who have bigger knowledge have advantage, this advantage is fair.
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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:36 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Exactly. I'm not an expert on military equipment, its capabilities and how it works.


You do not have to be to RP war.

There are people who are, and they will be willing to help. Though people who have bigger knowledge have advantage, this advantage is fair.

I personally don't think the advantage is fair, but I don't really have that much of a problem with it either.

However there is often a sense of superiority among some people I feel.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:45 pm

Ardoki wrote:I saw how you posted about me Feng. What have I ever done to you?

I had never heard of, nor would/do I want to join your little alliance. So there's no use in insulting me and banning me from your as of yet non-existent thread.

If I were you, I'd worry more about this.
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4 days ago: Avararia ceased to exist.
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4 days ago: Alexanderan empire ceased to exist.
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:47 pm

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Ardoki wrote:I personally don't think the advantage is fair, but I don't really have that much of a problem with it either.

However there is often a sense of superiority among some people I feel.

Well, in my opinion, and I know I'm entering this convo late here, it is fair. The advantage or disadvantage is based on knowledge and actual research as well as intense study and personal talent, so it's really fair if they have taken the time to research it, which I'm doing.

A lot of stuff is classified, so you can't really know important details.

Plus I have done research when I needed it, however it is very time-consuming and doesn't help much.
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:47 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I saw how you posted about me Feng. What have I ever done to you?

I had never heard of, nor would/do I want to join your little alliance. So there's no use in insulting me and banning me from your as of yet non-existent thread.

If I were you, I'd worry more about this.
4 days ago: Unimonian order ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Aanglandia ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Avararia ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Thrakion ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Anterra ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Alexanderan empire ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Nua ardoki ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Ardokian empire ceased to exist.

I'll resurrect them now if it bothers you so much.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:49 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:If I were you, I'd worry more about this.
4 days ago: Unimonian order ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Aanglandia ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Avararia ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Thrakion ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Anterra ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Alexanderan empire ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Nua ardoki ceased to exist.
4 days ago: Ardokian empire ceased to exist.

I'll resurrect them now if it bothers you so much.

It doesn't, I just thought they were mod-deleted since they seemed to CTE all in the same day.
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:51 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I'll resurrect them now if it bothers you so much.

It doesn't, I just thought they were mod-deleted since they seemed to CTE all in the same day.

Done, they are all back now.
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:55 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:It doesn't, I just thought they were mod-deleted since they seemed to CTE all in the same day.

Done, they are all back now.

Why do they exist?
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:58 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Done, they are all back now.

Why do they exist?

Because I created them, and also because I have resurrected them after they die.
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:00 pm

Ardoki wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:Why do they exist?

Because I created them, and also because I have resurrected them after they die.

But.... What is their purpose?
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"Congrats. You just won the second place prize for Not Giving a Fuck. First Place, of course, always goes to Furry."
"He's an 8 Ball, DEN. You can't deal with an 8 Ball." - Empire of Donner land
"This Rp is flexible with science and so will you." - Tagali Federation
"I'm confused as to your tactic but I'll trust you." - Die erworbenen Namen
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:05 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Because I created them, and also because I have resurrected them after they die.

But.... What is their purpose?

I don't know.

The Lord Almighty Gregory willed it; and so it was done.
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Head of State: Grand Emperor Alistair Killian Moriarty
Head of Government: Grand Imperial Chancellor Kennedy Rowan Coleman
Legislature: Imperial Senate
Ruling Party: Imperial Progressive Party
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Politics: Social Democrat
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:08 pm

Their purpose is to bow down and accept the rule of the Empire of Greater Nihon.
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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:11 pm

I mean, sure, I have puppets. The three listed in my sig are factbook stores for FT and the last is a MT puppet inspired somewhat by Afghani culture and structure with some large changes that I want to get rid of spectacularly in an RP.
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"I would much rather be with you than against you, you're way too imaginative."
"URA New Confucius 2015."- Organized States
"Congrats. You just won the second place prize for Not Giving a Fuck. First Place, of course, always goes to Furry."
"He's an 8 Ball, DEN. You can't deal with an 8 Ball." - Empire of Donner land
"This Rp is flexible with science and so will you." - Tagali Federation
"I'm confused as to your tactic but I'll trust you." - Die erworbenen Namen
"Unfiltered, concentrated, possibly weaponized stupidity."
Thafoo, Leningrad Union: DEAT'd for your sins.
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