The United Left [OOC|SIGN-UP|6.0]

[The United Remnants of America]

Jord's words are why I accepted for now. I'm half on the fence about this, honestly. I'd like to see it develop further and assist in the development.

[Cyllea]

(Image) Sponsored by the Greater Republic of Clejani - Daka Brândușa Form The New Internationale [TNI Resolution Number: 0] ARTICLE ONE; DEFINITIONS - I. A Minor Offense is when members of the alliance find ways to assist reactionary, revisionist, or any enemy figures during the transition. II. A Mid-Level Offense is when members of the alliance greatly find ways to assist reactionary, revisionist, or enemy figures during the transition. III. A Major Offense is when a member creates a strong enough split alliance or leaves the United Left with great aggression, or is a reactionary, revisionist, or enemy figure during the transition. ARTICLE TWO; AREA OF AFFECT - Every member, external alliance, and extra-alliance groups in the NS cannon are affected by the proposal. ARTICLE THREE; REASONS - This bill lists the current reasons why the United Left(and other willing/left-orientated organizations) will form the The New Internationale below: I. The United Left is very inactive compared to past or even common standards - reaching below even most quite inactive threads. II. The United Left no longer has a very active or even representative head-of-command, and all United Left laws are at the whim of only the commissioners. III. The United Left does not have a council or a peoples representative body, and yet only elects three major players for the entire alliance. IV. The United Left is no longer living up to its name - and denies more harsh leftists and old allies of the left front for common issues that many leftists posses. V. The United Left has become a very bureaucratic mess and thus would require total restructuring of the alliance to fix it. VI. The United Left could certainly do with a different role play environment and a much stronger and more versatile alliance in the long run and for our collective enjoyment. VII. The United Left currently is only 10 members, and the new plans for the alliance could fix the United Left's member list and make it populated and diverse once again. IIX. The United Left has been caught to run with poorly trained, inexperienced, or generally distasteful members in office and the TNI, it's constitution, and it's relations could bring experienced, trained, and proper people to the government. IIX. The United Left is also very out with diplomatic situations or encounters - and the TNI could rebirth the left's great ability to educate, agitate, and organize with people all across the world. ARTICLE FOUR; EFFECTS - This bill effectively creates The New Internationale, and by extent creating a whole alliance for the left wing. Thus, the UL and its satelite states/allies/other friendly structures will hopefully consider joining the TNI - although the merger will be negotiated seprately. I. The United Left will recognize The New Internationale as the predecessor and major alliance for the left movement. II. The United Left will close its threads when The New Internationale creates the proper predecessor threads to fulfill the same or similar purposes. III. The United Left administrator account will be put carefully under watch during the voting of the bill. IV. The United Left Commissioners will surrender offical UL accounts to The New Internationale government to not provoke any stealing of the account once the bill is voted in. V. The United Left propaganda and pictures are equally allowed to be used by The New Internationale unless those rights are revoked by the creator of the piece. VI. Any United Left members must not create split alliances to further damage left unity. VII. The United Left government workers, founders, and popular members will revive an award for their service to a year-standing alliance as of this April. VII. The United Left will halt any government developmental activities such as voting, appointing of ministers, or creation commissions unless the TNI construction is estimated to be beyond a month from the proposal suggestion date. ARTICLE FIVE; PUNISHMENT - Those who do not follow the law in order will be subject to the punishments dependent on the violation: I. A Minor Offense can lead to temporary removal from the alliance, temporary cut of aid/trade, or loss of access to the Strategic Defence Cooperation Act and it's predecessor bills. II. A Mid-Level Offense can lead to permanent banning from the alliance and its services - yet no invasion or extreme aggression. III. A Major Offense will ultimately lead to invasion of said nation and will be declared enemy by the TNI. The creator of the bill is allowed to interpret grey cases - yet those who are clear will be punished by the UL Commissioners until the TNI is formed. Equally, those who are deemed anti-productive to the effort or reactionary/revisionist may be subject to the punishments, but the punishments only can placed upon said reactionaries/revisionists by the creator of the bill. ARTICLE SIX; INTERPRETATIONS - Any misconceptions, errors, or loopholes in the bill are to be worked out by the creator of the bill. Thus, by the direct language of the bill and what it states are interpreted by the creator of the bill as well. Signed Warmly, Daka Brândușa, Greater Republic of Clejani

(Note: This was from my old OEN Condemnation proposal so sorry if it looks similar to IFA Council stuff. Thank :3)

For the most part, I approve. However...

IIX. The United Left has been caught to run with poorly trained, inexperienced, or generally distasteful members in office and the TNI, it's constitution, and it's relations could bring experienced, trained, and proper people to the government.

Excuse, me. I have run successful Alliances before, and I will again. I have worked out quite a few defensive and peace treaties. In no way can you call me inexperienced or poorly trained. Distasteful relies on the opinion, though calling me that would be simply rude. I understand that you want the New Internationale, TUM, but there's no reason to blame us for the UL's inactivity; we've simply had nothing to do. Additionally:

IV. The United Left Commissioners will surrender official UL accounts to The New Internationale government to not provoke any stealing of the account once the bill is voted in.

Surrender it to whom? We haven't even elected a TNI Government. You can't hand something over to positions that don't exist yet. Besides, we were elected to the UL Government, and seeing as, by your own words, the TNI is the direct successor of the UL, I say that the Commissars should be allowed to finish their terms, and then new elections shall be held for Commissars. It's only fair, after all. Or we could hold an election immediately after the formation of the TNI. And even if the same guys are elected, you can't still force us to surrender the account. You see my point? You can't rightly force us to surrender the UL Admin account if the people still want us in Office.

Also, there is a loophole in here that I do not quite like; you say that the merger will be discussed separately, meaning that it is possible for the UL to choose to stay independent. Yet you also say that the UL must close all it's threads once the TNI creates threads to fill out the same purpose. That would leave the UL crippled if they chose not to merge with you.

We also need to talk about what representative body we shall have. Obviously, in addition to the Commisars, we need a single, central leader to be chosen in elections. A Chairman of the TNI, maybe. That is obviously a major problem the UL is having, I will admit, but until you fix it so that the TNI doesn't end up exactly like the UL, I will have to disagree with your bill. I do realize that I am outvoted. Therefore, if you do not fix the mistakes I have pointed out, or at least compromise on them, I will resign in protest and join SACTO. Seriously. I am willing to give the TNI a try, but not if it becomes a dark, undemocratic version of the UL- which your bill leaves lots of room for.

The inactivity of the UL ever since TUM left has been crippling. And don't try to claim you're "active" because you get 2 or 3 posts on the thread per day; when TUM was in charge, we were making 10-20 pages per day. This is the most active time the UL has seen in a long time and its because of TUM. The inefficiency of this 'democracy', which is basically a tyranny by majority, is draining the life out of the United Left, and to claim otherwise is simply wrong. Also, youre going to resign in protest and join SACTO? Good way to show loyalty to your alliance. There will be one elected position, operating under TUM. At this point, we can't justify the existence of more than one elected position, due to a lack of members. But at no point, will the head leader of the New Internationale, be elected. Its too inefficient, and it causes all the same issues that the United Left faces today. And when TUM was criticising the UL leadership, I'm quite certain he was criticising the leadership under New Kvenland, Alosteq Diin Nastja and Zunkwentania.

[The United Remnants of America]

For the most part, I approve. However...



Excuse, me. I have run successful Alliances before, and I will again. I have worked out quite a few defensive and peace treaties. In no way can you call me inexperienced or poorly trained. Distasteful relies on the opinion, though calling me that would be simply rude. I understand that you want the New Internationale, TUM, but there's no reason to blame us for the UL's inactivity; we've simply had nothing to do. Additionally:



Surrender it to whom? We haven't even elected a TNI Government. You can't hand something over to positions that don't exist yet. Besides, we were elected to the UL Government, and seeing as, by your own words, the TNI is the direct successor of the UL, I say that the Commissars should be allowed to finish their terms, and then new elections shall be held for Commissars. It's only fair, after all. Or we could hold an election immediately after the formation of the TNI. And even if the same guys are elected, you can't still force us to surrender the account. You see my point? You can't rightly force us to surrender the UL Admin account if the people still want us in Office.

Also, there is a loophole in here that I do not quite like; you say that the merger will be discussed separately, meaning that it is possible for the UL to choose to stay independent. Yet you also say that the UL must close all it's threads once the TNI creates threads to fill out the same purpose. That would leave the UL crippled if they chose not to merge with you.

We also need to talk about what representative body we shall have. Obviously, in addition to the Commisars, we need a single, central leader to be chosen in elections. A Chairman of the TNI, maybe. That is obviously a major problem the UL is having, I will admit, but until you fix it so that the TNI doesn't end up exactly like the UL, I will have to disagree with your bill. I do realize that I am outvoted. Therefore, if you do not fix the mistakes I have pointed out, or at least compromise on them, I will resign in protest and join SACTO. Seriously. I am willing to give the TNI a try, but not if it becomes a dark, undemocratic version of the UL- which your bill leaves lots of room for.

The inactivity of the UL ever since TUM left has been crippling. And don't try to claim you're "active" because you get 2 or 3 posts on the thread per day; when TUM was in charge, we were making 10-20 pages per day. This is the most active time the UL has seen in a long time and its because of TUM. The inefficiency of this 'democracy', which is basically a tyranny by majority, is draining the life out of the United Left, and to claim otherwise is simply wrong. Also, youre going to resign in protest and join SACTO? Good way to show loyalty to your alliance. There will be one elected position, operating under TUM. At this point, we can't justify the existence of more than one elected position, due to a lack of members. But at no point, will the head leader of the New Internationale, be elected. Its too inefficient, and it causes all the same issues that the United Left faces today. And when TUM was criticising the UL leadership, I'm quite certain he was criticising the leadership under New Kvenland, Alosteq Diin Nastja and Zunkwentania.

Perfect, let's place blame on fellow members and start an argument. That'll keep us united and show we're loyal to each other.

You see the issue? It's no more useful than Jord threatening to leave.

Also, remember, that the size of TNI will be much larger due to the other leftist alliances joining. IIRC, CSS is somewhere around 20 members, so I think that warrants more elected positions than one. At least two should exist at that point.

[New Jordslag]

For the most part, I approve. However...



Excuse, me. I have run successful Alliances before, and I will again. I have worked out quite a few defensive and peace treaties. In no way can you call me inexperienced or poorly trained. Distasteful relies on the opinion, though calling me that would be simply rude. I understand that you want the New Internationale, TUM, but there's no reason to blame us for the UL's inactivity; we've simply had nothing to do. Additionally:



Surrender it to whom? We haven't even elected a TNI Government. You can't hand something over to positions that don't exist yet. Besides, we were elected to the UL Government, and seeing as, by your own words, the TNI is the direct successor of the UL, I say that the Commissars should be allowed to finish their terms, and then new elections shall be held for Commissars. It's only fair, after all. Or we could hold an election immediately after the formation of the TNI. And even if the same guys are elected, you can't still force us to surrender the account. You see my point? You can't rightly force us to surrender the UL Admin account if the people still want us in Office.

Also, there is a loophole in here that I do not quite like; you say that the merger will be discussed separately, meaning that it is possible for the UL to choose to stay independent. Yet you also say that the UL must close all it's threads once the TNI creates threads to fill out the same purpose. That would leave the UL crippled if they chose not to merge with you.

We also need to talk about what representative body we shall have. Obviously, in addition to the Commisars, we need a single, central leader to be chosen in elections. A Chairman of the TNI, maybe. That is obviously a major problem the UL is having, I will admit, but until you fix it so that the TNI doesn't end up exactly like the UL, I will have to disagree with your bill. I do realize that I am outvoted. Therefore, if you do not fix the mistakes I have pointed out, or at least compromise on them, I will resign in protest and join SACTO. Seriously. I am willing to give the TNI a try, but not if it becomes a dark, undemocratic version of the UL- which your bill leaves lots of room for.

The inactivity of the UL ever since TUM left has been crippling.

Crippling? Far from it. The UL is still working.

And don't try to claim you're "active" because you get 2 or 3 posts on the thread per day;

More than you.

when TUM was in charge, we were making 10-20 pages per day. This is the most active time the UL has seen in a long time and its because of TUM.

No, it's because TUM's proposal met with controversy. TUM didn't bring the UL into activity. In fact, I might point out, he's trying to end the UL.

The inefficiency of this 'democracy', which is basically a tyranny by majority,

Lemme stop you right there. This is exactly how North Korea came to be. Well, that, and the Soviet Union. But anyways, the Kims made fun of Democracy, saying it was inefficient and stupid, and used that view of Democracy to put a tyrannical Dictatorship in power. besides, it's far from tyranny by majority. There are three Commisars, and everybody has a chance to get elected.

is draining the life out of the United Left, and to claim otherwise is simply wrong.

Hah, nope. The UL has been in decline for a looooong time. We've just been putting off fixing it.

Also, youre going to resign in protest and join SACTO? Good way to show loyalty to your alliance.

You know, except I am loyal. Just not to the TNI, which leaves an even greater chance for Tyranny by Majority. I have been loyal to the UL for months, and I will not tolerate being called a traitor by somebody who is rarely on here and, when he does, usually gets into a fight. See? You don't like being insulted either.

There will be one elected position, operating under TUM. At this point, we can't justify the existence of more than one elected position, due to a lack of members.

Ah, but you and TUM have said that the TNI will bring new life into the UL. With so many UL and CSS members joining, you have room for far more than one elected member. Or am I wrong, and the TNI is going to be failure with so few members that there will only be room for one elected position? Your choice.

But at no point, will the head leader of the New Internationale, be elected. Its too inefficient, and it causes all the same issues that the United Left faces today.

Elections are too inefficient? Seriously? Every major Alliance on NS, with the exception of the Fascist Ones, had elected positions, or at the least a Parliament that all Members were in. And these all worked fine. All these alliances grew into huge powerhouses. But you are now saying that Elections, simply people saying who they want to be their leader, is too inefficient? Either you are establishing a Fascist Alliance that is afraid of elections for fear that they will go against them, or are establishing an Oligarchy trying to hypnotize the Masses so they can stay in power indefinitely. Take your pick.

And when TUM was criticising the UL leadership, I'm quite certain he was criticising the leadership under New Kvenland, Alosteq Diin Nastja and Zunkwentania.

Most of whom are founding members of this alliance and were pivotal in it's success. But whatever. TUM can criticize them all he likes. I am a Democratic Socialist, I value the People's Freedom to not agree with Socialism, and if you don't, that's fine. I'm out of here, and anybody who wishes to follow me can. As for the rest of you, I wish you the best of luck in corrupting the People's Revolution.

[Sinosostan]

If that bill passes

I will fucking quit this alliance and find a new one to join.

[Cyllea]

If that bill passes

I will fucking quit this alliance and find a new one to join.

Why? Its literally just re-creating the old United Left.

[Cedoria]

I'm pushing for the TNI since it would facilitate a merger with the CSS, thereby increasing our strength and creating a new, united left.

WE CAN BECOME STRONK AGAIN

I've already negotiated silly

They said that they most likely will join if our charter is not bad - basically.

That is not in fact what I said, I said I would need a look at your charter, I would discuss it with my own colleagues in CSS, and then I wanted to know that UL, Te entire UL, was on board with it.

Don't get me wrong, the idea of a merger is an enticing thought. However, I am concerned about dictatorial leadership with unelected positions. It's understandable for a small alliance that you would want this, but for a larger one like TNi would be? People should have a stake in their success. The leadership should be at least partially elected, and their should be a few more than two or three people involved.

Personally, an alternative model I would suggest is that the former leaders of CSS, UL and TNI all serve as part of the new leadership of TNI, that way all the leaders of the alliances have an equal stake in the merger without feeling like they are being dictated too.

I do have my concerns about this given the disagreements some members here appear to be having. I don't want too split the Left on this one. Some also seem to have concerns that TUM is in this only to regain his own power, I don't know whether this is the case because I don't know what caused him too split from UL in the first place, but I will be waiting for the formal agreement from UL and I will check the charter before CSS decides to join.

[Cyllea]

I've already negotiated silly

They said that they most likely will join if our charter is not bad - basically.

That is not in fact what I said, I said I would need a look at your charter, I would discuss it with my own colleagues in CSS, and then I wanted to know that UL, Te entire UL, was on board with it.

Don't get me wrong, the idea of a merger is an enticing thought. However, I am concerned about dictatorial leadership with unelected positions. It's understandable for a small alliance that you would want this, but for a larger one like TNi would be? People should have a stake in their success. The leadership should be at least partially elected, and their should be a few more than two or three people involved.

Personally, an alternative model I would suggest is that the former leaders of CSS, UL and TNI all serve as part of the new leadership of TNI, that way all the leaders of the alliances have an equal stake in the merger without feeling like they are being dictated too.

I do have my concerns about this given the disagreements some members here appear to be having. I don't want too split the Left on this one. Some also seem to have concerns that TUM is in this only to regain his own power, I don't know whether this is the case because I don't know what caused him too split from UL in the first place, but I will be waiting for the formal agreement from UL and I will check the charter before CSS decides to join.

TUM wants to regain his power because he's the only one fit to lead the left. When he lead the United Left, it was so active, and indeed, all of the alliance community was so much more active. But then democracy took over, and the United Left is a mere shell of its former self.

[Cedoria]

That is not in fact what I said, I said I would need a look at your charter, I would discuss it with my own colleagues in CSS, and then I wanted to know that UL, Te entire UL, was on board with it.

Don't get me wrong, the idea of a merger is an enticing thought. However, I am concerned about dictatorial leadership with unelected positions. It's understandable for a small alliance that you would want this, but for a larger one like TNi would be? People should have a stake in their success. The leadership should be at least partially elected, and their should be a few more than two or three people involved.

Personally, an alternative model I would suggest is that the former leaders of CSS, UL and TNI all serve as part of the new leadership of TNI, that way all the leaders of the alliances have an equal stake in the merger without feeling like they are being dictated too.

I do have my concerns about this given the disagreements some members here appear to be having. I don't want too split the Left on this one. Some also seem to have concerns that TUM is in this only to regain his own power, I don't know whether this is the case because I don't know what caused him too split from UL in the first place, but I will be waiting for the formal agreement from UL and I will check the charter before CSS decides to join.

TUM wants to regain his power because he's the only one fit to lead the left. When he lead the United Left, it was so active, and indeed, all of the alliance community was so much more active. But then democracy took over, and the United Left is a mere shell of its former self.

From his point of view he's the only one fit too lead, others may not share his appraisal of the situation.

I personally think that with the right institutional structure, it matters less who leads, UL certainly needs some more activity and reform I think, and it's leadership seems to be getting on task with that, and our recent alliance against SACTO may prove to be helpful with boosting activity and inspire more active participation.

All alliance's have rough patches, it's nothing too throw the proverbial dummy out of the cot over.

[Cyllea]

TUM wants to regain his power because he's the only one fit to lead the left. When he lead the United Left, it was so active, and indeed, all of the alliance community was so much more active. But then democracy took over, and the United Left is a mere shell of its former self.

From his point of view he's the only one fit too lead, others may not share his appraisal of the situation.

I personally think that with the right institutional structure, it matters less who leads, UL certainly needs some more activity and reform I think, and it's leadership seems to be getting on task with that, and our recent alliance against SACTO may prove to be helpful with boosting activity and inspire more active participation.

All alliance's have rough patches, it's nothing too throw the proverbial dummy out of the cot over.

Well, the previously elected leadership of the United Left came in and completely destroyed what remained of it in one swift blow. I don't know if I trust a democratically elected government anymore. Its become a bit more than a rough patch at this point.

[Zunkwentania]

From his point of view he's the only one fit too lead, others may not share his appraisal of the situation.

I personally think that with the right institutional structure, it matters less who leads, UL certainly needs some more activity and reform I think, and it's leadership seems to be getting on task with that, and our recent alliance against SACTO may prove to be helpful with boosting activity and inspire more active participation.

All alliance's have rough patches, it's nothing too throw the proverbial dummy out of the cot over.

Well, the previously elected leadership of the United Left came in and completely destroyed what remained of it in one swift blow. I don't know if I trust a democratically elected government anymore. Its become a bit more than a rough patch at this point.

Excuse me? How did the past leadership ruin it? Why, in fact, our major decline was under your leadership.

[Alosteq Diin Nastja]

That is not in fact what I said, I said I would need a look at your charter, I would discuss it with my own colleagues in CSS, and then I wanted to know that UL, Te entire UL, was on board with it.

Don't get me wrong, the idea of a merger is an enticing thought. However, I am concerned about dictatorial leadership with unelected positions. It's understandable for a small alliance that you would want this, but for a larger one like TNi would be? People should have a stake in their success. The leadership should be at least partially elected, and their should be a few more than two or three people involved.

Personally, an alternative model I would suggest is that the former leaders of CSS, UL and TNI all serve as part of the new leadership of TNI, that way all the leaders of the alliances have an equal stake in the merger without feeling like they are being dictated too.

I do have my concerns about this given the disagreements some members here appear to be having. I don't want too split the Left on this one. Some also seem to have concerns that TUM is in this only to regain his own power, I don't know whether this is the case because I don't know what caused him too split from UL in the first place, but I will be waiting for the formal agreement from UL and I will check the charter before CSS decides to join.

TUM wants to regain his power because he's the only one fit to lead the left. When he lead the United Left, it was so active, and indeed, all of the alliance community was so much more active. But then democracy took over, and the United Left is a mere shell of its former self.

He's the only one fit to lead the Left? When he was in power of the UL, the espionage system was set up. He began the OOC Wars out of his own selfishness and desire for power. The UL is a shell of its former self because TUM ruined its reputation.

[Rostogovia]

As a strongly communist nation, I'm surprised I haven't discovered the UL yet.

THE UNITED LEFT

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APPLICATION FORM • APPLICATION FORM • APPLICATION FORM

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SECTION ONE
Nation Information

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Official National Name: The Peoples Federation of Rostogovia
Short National Name: Rostogovia
Abbreviated Form: The PFR
National Population (RP): 3.5 billion
National Tech Era: Modern
Map: (Optional)
Regional Map: (Optional)

SECTION TWO
Ambassador Information

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Name: Viktor Akulov
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Health concerns: None of note.
Biography: (Highly Recommended, Optional)

Viktor was born in 1968, to a family of statespeople. His father, Artur Akulov, served as minster of the Treasury during the administration of premier Mikhail Volkov, and became a powerful member of the Rostogovian political elite. Viktor attended Lengrazev university, earning a doctorate degree in political science and international relations. Viktor went on to serve briefly in a domestic position in the Rostogovian Ministry of Foreign affairs, before being appointed embassador to The Imperial Confederation of Cyllea.

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Economy Information

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Economic System: Loose Communism, gradually drifting towards socialism. Large scale private enterprise is illegal, however small privately owned businesses (Those with only one outlet and an annual revenue of under 25,000 Rostov Credits a year.), are allowed.
Economic Stage: (Depression, recession, growth, etc.) Rostogovia has experienced a period of relative economic growth, due in part to it's recent allowance of small privately owned businesses as an exception to the ban on private enterprise.
Currency: The Rostov Credit
Exchange Rate to NSD: 1.35 Credits = 1 NSD
GDP: $65,229,351,379,250 NSD
GDP per capita: $20,058 NSD
HDI:

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Society Information

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Freedom of thought:
Freedom of belief (religion): Yes
Freedom of expression: Yes
Freedom of the media: Yes
Freedom of peaceful assembly: Yes
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Yes
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: No
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes
Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Yes, however Rostogovian government follows a single party system. Views critical of the government are permitted in Rostogovian politics, so long as said views follow the basic tenets of the revolution.
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Up to interpretation, capitol punishment is regularly carried out for serious offenses via firing squad, but other than that the penal system is rather humane.
Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability):

Yes

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Policy Information

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GOVERNMENT

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Government Type: Soviet Republic. Local municipalities elect a local soviet, which in turn elect a regional soviet, which in turn elect a national soviet, which in turn elects a Secretary.
Head of State: Premier Alexander Dyatlov
Head of Government: Premier Alexander Dyatlov
Legislature: The National Peoples Soviet
Head of Legislature: Secretary of the Peoples Soviet Nikoli Sokolov
Judiciary: The Supreme Peoples Tribunal
Head of Judiciary: None, the Supreme Peoples Tribunal is headed by a council of 10 magistrates appointed by The National Peoples Soviet.
Political Ideologies: (Rank in order of dominance, if one, list one)

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FOREIGN POLICY

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Known enemies, rivals: Communism, Trotskyism, Luxembourgism, Vanguardism.
DEFCON level: (If you provide a threat level, please define the threats to your nation.) One (The second lowest.). The Rostogovian government is currently attempting to break the SACTO enforced blockade of The Peoples Republic of Amatha.
Known allied nations:
Other Alliance Memberships: (Alliance systems in NSG - UL, IFC, etc. etc.)
Foreign Policy: (Define your foreign policy the best you can, here.)

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Military Information

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Name of Military: The Rostogovian Peoples
Commander In Chief: Premier Alexander Dyatlov
Active Military Personnel: approximately three Million Personnel
Reserve Military Personnel: Approximately five million Personnel
Military Budget: 4,813,814,288,205 NSD
Military Black Budget: (Optional)

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OOC Information

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Do you agree to abide by the People's Proclamation: Yes
Are there any reasons why you are applying to the UL: It seems fun.
Why do you think the United Left is a good fit for you: As a passionate communist both IC and OOC, it seems a natural decision. I also love RPing, and would love to do so within the UL.
What do you think you can contribute to the UL: I've quite a passion for Rping on NS, and would love to do so within the UL. I don't have many IRL commitments presently, so I'll be able to be very active. Throughout the years I've developed a talent for realistic rping in both combat and diplomatic scenarios. In addition to this I've had a fair bit of experience rping against the nefarious forces of SACTO.
Roleplay Examples: (Please use links - if you have to place the full text here, spoiler it.) viewtopic.php?f=31&t=308149 http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... 5&t=323723 viewtopic.php?f=31&t=315703 viewtopic.php?f=5&t=293883 Also, Cyllea can vouch for me.
Have you had trouble with the Forum Moderators: No
If so, how severe was the situation, and why did it happen:

Do not remove - Social2478

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[Stasnov]

Hello comrades, i hope that i don't interupt you from arguing.

I was here since 4.0 (or 3.0, i can't remember really), and overall it was a great experience. I met some great people here, had great experiences RPing, and had good laughs in the Kolo. However, after certain events, this once great, united, and powerful alliance became shattered, divided and weak, unable to properly operate. I feel that my membership in it is rather...unnecessary.

Therefore, i officially withdraw my membership from the United Left.

[Servinta]

Why must we argue about this, out all things.What happened happened, there's no changing history.We should all just do our best to see the enemy defeated and the UL brought to a new golden age.

Just drop the whole blame game and lets get back to the matters at hand!

[Alosteq Diin Nastja]

Why must we argue about this, out all things.What happened happened, there's no changing history.We should all just do our best to see the enemy defeated and the UL brought to a new golden age.

Just drop the whole blame game and lets get back to the matters at hand!

This won't destroy the enemy. Only the UL.

[Servinta]

Why must we argue about this, out all things.What happened happened, there's no changing history.We should all just do our best to see the enemy defeated and the UL brought to a new golden age.

Just drop the whole blame game and lets get back to the matters at hand!

This won't destroy the enemy. Only the UL.

Well then lets debate the document and compromise or capitulate on the stronger points to make everyone happy.But enough of the "Such and Such was a great leader while the other guys were garbage" it helps nothing and wastes time we could spend identifying and correcting the deficiencies.

[Alosteq Diin Nastja]

This won't destroy the enemy. Only the UL.

Well then lets debate the document and compromise or capitulate on the stronger points to make everyone happy.But enough of the "Such and Such was a great leader while the other guys were garbage" it helps nothing and wastes time we could spend identifying and correcting the deficiencies.

I did try to refute the document's problems in a civil manner. I didn't really get a reply.

[Servinta]

Well then lets debate the document and compromise or capitulate on the stronger points to make everyone happy.But enough of the "Such and Such was a great leader while the other guys were garbage" it helps nothing and wastes time we could spend identifying and correcting the deficiencies.

I did try to refute the document's problems in a civil manner. I didn't really get a reply.

Well I'm guessing the argument that happened shortly after might have something to do with that.No offense to you or anyone, opinions matter and we're bound to have a spat every so often.

[The United Motherland]

Well we can work on a civil reply.

I'm personally finding the handling of this situation to be immature.

Simply put, we will have a conversation tonight when I can actually do something.

I would like Jordslag to reconsider his leave - as I find it was irrationally given and as I have not really had much to really aliveate the situation and I'd like to speak.

So I do recommend everyone joining our chatzy - or stay and bicker like children who will not take the situation into a diplomatic term.

[Sinosostan]

If that bill passes

I will fucking quit this alliance and find a new one to join.

Why? Its literally just re-creating the old United Left.

An old UL that was stricken with drama, OOC fighting and other major problems that should never, ever, EVER be dragged back up. Fine. I will give it a chance, but if I see that the aforementioned drama will re-emerge, I will resign from this alliance at a moments notice.

[Alosteq Diin Nastja]

Why? Its literally just re-creating the old United Left.

An old UL that was stricken with drama, OOC fighting and other major problems that should never, ever, EVER be dragged back up. Fine. I will give it a chance, but if I see that the aforementioned drama will re-emerge, I will resign from this alliance at a moments notice.

An old UL that was plagued by dictatorship and a ruined reputation, might I add.

[Cyllea]

Why? Its literally just re-creating the old United Left.

An old UL that was stricken with drama, OOC fighting and other major problems that should never, ever, EVER be dragged back up. Fine. I will give it a chance, but if I see that the aforementioned drama will re-emerge, I will resign from this alliance at a moments notice.

As will I. I agree that drama and OOC warfare have no place in the role-playing community, and that's been adressed.

[The United Motherland]

Why? Its literally just re-creating the old United Left.

An old UL that was stricken with drama, OOC fighting and other major problems that should never, ever, EVER be dragged back up. Fine. I will give it a chance, but if I see that the aforementioned drama will re-emerge, I will resign from this alliance at a moments notice.

If anything I am planning a charter - and various agreements will (hopefully) be passed to end OOC fighting if it ever does. The new TNI will basically leave behind that aura of darkness that the UL possesses deep down.

[Cyllea]

An old UL that was stricken with drama, OOC fighting and other major problems that should never, ever, EVER be dragged back up. Fine. I will give it a chance, but if I see that the aforementioned drama will re-emerge, I will resign from this alliance at a moments notice.

An old UL that was plagued by dictatorship and a ruined reputation, might I add.

That 'dictatorship' was what kept the United Left active back then. And don't try to act like you have the moral high ground now when you were TUM's right hand man at the time.