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Jute
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Postby Jute » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:22 pm

Xilonite wrote:
Jute wrote:You find it unrealistic that ponies, unlike humans, could be the dominative species in an empire?

Yes...

They don't exist. Enough said. Secondly, it would also be more of a Dictatorship rather than Democratic. Yupp. Ponies are dictators behind the mask.

Neither does your nation :P The second point is debatable, though
TVtropes wrote:There's also the interpretation that she's [Princess Celestia] full evil, ruling a Crapsaccharine World as a vicious tyrant who enforces conformity, segregation and control. These can vary from her being a Knight Templar who sees such control as needed to keep Equestria from falling apart, to Despotism Justifies the Means, focused on keeping her control over the land by any means necessary.

Some fans have noted that devastating, highly important events in Equestrian history are either completely unknown to the general populace (Discord's reign, the disappearance of the Crystal Empire) or only known through inaccurate myths (Nightmare Moon's longest night). They thus speculate that Celestia regularly alters official histories to remove undesirable elements, which in turn has speculations as to whether she does this out of misguided benevolence or a malicious attempt to hide her own mistakes.note
Some fans have also noted the rather troubling number of ponies who have feared being banished by the princessnote . Are they just being paranoid, or does Princess Celestia have a history of banishing ponies for arguably minor infractions of the law?

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The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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Ozzy
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Postby Ozzy » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:23 pm

Jute wrote:You find it unrealistic that ponies, unlike humans, could be the dominative species in an empire?

Sapient pastel colored ponies in general are unrealistic, that's why there a substantial amount of role plays bearing that hilariously hypocritical and specific "No ponies" rule. You know, "cuz fer reelizm".

It's humorous when Otaku-based nations do it.
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Osnil
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Postby Osnil » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:27 pm

Jute wrote:
Xilonite wrote:Exactly. I'm aware of what bronies say here and in RL. And I can tell you that those that dwell on the Internet, (via NS), are the worse. I'm not bashing none of them, but it doesn't make any sense as to why act like dominant species and speak utter nonsense.

Arrogant? I'm aware of that. But as I stated, speaking ICly here. Not OOCly.

You find it unrealistic that ponies, unlike humans, could be the dominative species in an empire?

Pokémon will always dominate MLP! ALWAYS!

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Postby Jute » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:30 pm

Ozzy wrote:
Jute wrote:You find it unrealistic that ponies, unlike humans, could be the dominative species in an empire?

Sapient pastel colored ponies in general are unrealistic, that's why there a substantial amount of role plays bearing that hilariously hypocritical and specific "No ponies" rule. You know, "cuz fer reelizm".

It's humorous when Otaku-based nations do it.

Strange, I've never seen it. But I agree it's a bit of a double standard. Anywhere, more evidence from Tvtropes that the Ponylands are really a fascist autocracy:
The land of Equestria as a whole might be a less-than utopian autocracy where the unicorns stay in power thanks to their control over magic and learning, and the pony population as a whole oppresses and even enslaves the other hoofed races. The posters in this discussion thread analyze the show and eventually come to the conclusion that Equestria is basically a fascist utopia, rife with rigid caste systems, engineered environments, slavery, class imbalance, all controlled at the beck and call of an all-powerful, godlike being that somehow manages to keep her subjects ignorant of the underlying problems of their society.
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
"Boys and girls so happy, young and gay / Don't let false worldly joy carry your hearts away."

See the Jutean language! Talk to me about all. Avian air force flag (via) Is Religion Dangerous?

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Xilonite
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Postby Xilonite » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:45 pm

Ozzy wrote:
Jute wrote:You find it unrealistic that ponies, unlike humans, could be the dominative species in an empire?

Sapient pastel colored ponies in general are unrealistic, that's why there a substantial amount of role plays bearing that hilariously hypocritical and specific "No ponies" rule. You know, "cuz fer reelizm".

It's humorous when Otaku-based nations do it.

LOL. It is.

Jute wrote:
Ozzy wrote:Sapient pastel colored ponies in general are unrealistic, that's why there a substantial amount of role plays bearing that hilariously hypocritical and specific "No ponies" rule. You know, "cuz fer reelizm".

It's humorous when Otaku-based nations do it.

Strange, I've never seen it. But I agree it's a bit of a double standard. Anywhere, more evidence from Tvtropes that the Ponylands are really a fascist autocracy:
The land of Equestria as a whole might be a less-than utopian autocracy where the unicorns stay in power thanks to their control over magic and learning, and the pony population as a whole oppresses and even enslaves the other hoofed races. The posters in this discussion thread analyze the show and eventually come to the conclusion that Equestria is basically a fascist utopia, rife with rigid caste systems, engineered environments, slavery, class imbalance, all controlled at the beck and call of an all-powerful, godlike being that somehow manages to keep her subjects ignorant of the underlying problems of their society.

Yeah.

In conclusion, my point has been made clear. I don't like ponies ICly rather than OOCly. :P
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The High Lords
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Postby The High Lords » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:15 pm

Can we expand the scope of this Union to include furries too?
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Postby Stormwrath » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:45 pm

The High Lords wrote:Can we expand the scope of this Union to include furries too?

I don't think that would be necessary for APU.

Anyway, why did Otulia resign from the APU? Because he is also a member of the MSU, which the casual person will see as a conflict of interest.

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Postby The High Lords » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:46 pm

Stormwrath wrote:
The High Lords wrote:Can we expand the scope of this Union to include furries too?

I don't think that would be necessary for APU.

Anyway, why did Otulia resign from the APU? Because he is also a member of the MSU, which the casual person will see as a conflict of interest.


It's the same idea, though. I move that we incorporate it.
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Xilonite
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Postby Xilonite » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:31 pm

Stormwrath wrote:
The High Lords wrote:Can we expand the scope of this Union to include furries too?

I don't think that would be necessary for APU.

Anyway, why did Otulia resign from the APU? Because he is also a member of the MSU, which the casual person will see as a conflict of interest.

I'm just going to point it out that this is for ponies and ponies only. Mkay? mkay.

If you want this APU expanded, talk to Ozzy. I have no business in this idea nor will I ever handle such proposition.
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Allancia
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Postby Allancia » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:32 pm

Xilonite wrote:
Stormwrath wrote:I don't think that would be necessary for APU.

Anyway, why did Otulia resign from the APU? Because he is also a member of the MSU, which the casual person will see as a conflict of interest.

I'm just going to point it out that this is for ponies and ponies only. Mkay? mkay.

If you want this APU expanded, talk to Ozzy. I have no business in this idea nor will I ever handle such proposition.

*Acceptable passiveness intensifies*
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Postby Xilonite » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:39 pm

Allancia wrote:
Xilonite wrote:I'm just going to point it out that this is for ponies and ponies only. Mkay? mkay.

If you want this APU expanded, talk to Ozzy. I have no business in this idea nor will I ever handle such proposition.

*Acceptable passiveness intensifies*

Lol.

I see no reason to hate the furries. They didn't do anything to the APU to cause us to hate them. It is bad enough I got to deal with a massive group of equines 1 by 1. But them included? no. I genuinely don't approve of such offer until they do something to us.
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Postby Allancia » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:42 pm

Xilonite wrote:
Allancia wrote:*Acceptable passiveness intensifies*

Lol.

I see no reason to hate the furries. They didn't do anything to the APU to cause us to hate them. It is bad enough I got to deal with a massive group of equines 1 by 1. But them included? no. I genuinely don't approve of such offer until they do something to us.

Good thinking. We could use their breeding abilities for cannon fodder working labor.
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Ozzy
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Postby Ozzy » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:44 pm

The High Lords wrote:Can we expand the scope of this Union to include furries too?

Nope, my immense (OOC) hatred for furries will only create conflict in the RP field. While I have entertained the idea, it's just that furries (especially role players) aren't exactly common on NS any more.

Of course if we take the route of anti-furry operations, I seriously won't be involved.
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In this world we stand for what we love, for what is right and for our rights. If you don't stand for either one of these you don't stand at all. You're crippled mentally. Your rights give you your life, that life gives you the right to stand for what is right for the world and one of those rights in the world is standing strong for those you love and what you love as a whole.

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Postby Allancia » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:46 pm

Ozzy wrote:
The High Lords wrote:Can we expand the scope of this Union to include furries too?

Nope, my immense (OOC) hatred for furries will only create conflict in the RP field. While I have entertained the idea, it's just that furries (especially role players) aren't exactly common on NS any more.

Of course if we take the route of anti-furry operations, I seriously won't be involved.

I'm conflicted...
You hate furries, but you won't commit hate crimes against them. That's how they work. You either hate them, or you are one.
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Postby Xilonite » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:49 pm

Ozzy wrote:
The High Lords wrote:Can we expand the scope of this Union to include furries too?

Nope, my immense (OOC) hatred for furries will only create conflict in the RP field. While I have entertained the idea, it's just that furries (especially role players) aren't exactly common on NS any more.

Of course if we take the route of anti-furry operations, I seriously won't be involved.

Exactly.

Just stick with what we got.

Allancia wrote:
Ozzy wrote:Nope, my immense (OOC) hatred for furries will only create conflict in the RP field. While I have entertained the idea, it's just that furries (especially role players) aren't exactly common on NS any more.

Of course if we take the route of anti-furry operations, I seriously won't be involved.

I'm conflicted...
You hate furries, but you won't commit hate crimes against them. That's how they work. You either hate them, or you are one.

If the APU goes against all furries as well, then there would be a conflict. A great... conflict.
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Postby Allancia » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:52 pm

Xilonite wrote:
Ozzy wrote:Nope, my immense (OOC) hatred for furries will only create conflict in the RP field. While I have entertained the idea, it's just that furries (especially role players) aren't exactly common on NS any more.

Of course if we take the route of anti-furry operations, I seriously won't be involved.

Exactly.

Just stick with what we got.

Allancia wrote:I'm conflicted...
You hate furries, but you won't commit hate crimes against them. That's how they work. You either hate them, or you are one.

If the APU goes against all furries as well, then there would be a conflict. A great... conflict.

Blood all across the forums. Exhausted mods trying to resuscitate their dead comrades.
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Postby Xilonite » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:04 pm

Allancia wrote:
Xilonite wrote:Exactly.

Just stick with what we got.


If the APU goes against all furries as well, then there would be a conflict. A great... conflict.

Blood all across the forums. Exhausted mods trying to resuscitate their dead comrades.

Hmmm...
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Postby Jute » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:00 am

I'll try to get the thread done then. Only need the rules, applications and some more details for the start.
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
"Boys and girls so happy, young and gay / Don't let false worldly joy carry your hearts away."

See the Jutean language! Talk to me about all. Avian air force flag (via) Is Religion Dangerous?

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Ozzy
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Postby Ozzy » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:47 am

Allancia wrote:I'm conflicted...
You hate furries, but you won't commit hate crimes against them. That's how they work. You either hate them, or you are one.

Well partner, the reason you may be conflicted is probably because you just failed to distinguish IC from OOC traits in your first sentence. My biased negative view on furries will only cause trouble among any role playing with them, hence I don't bother.
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In this world we stand for what we love, for what is right and for our rights. If you don't stand for either one of these you don't stand at all. You're crippled mentally. Your rights give you your life, that life gives you the right to stand for what is right for the world and one of those rights in the world is standing strong for those you love and what you love as a whole.

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Postby Osnil » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:14 am

I have an idea for an RP-The Ponies have begun a massive world-wide coup. The governments of the world are slowly falling like dominos. Then by accident a stranded group of soldiers find out about Pokemon and decide to fight Ponies with Pokemon.

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Postby Xilonite » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:23 am

Osnil wrote:I have an idea for an RP-The Ponies have begun a massive world-wide coup. The governments of the world are slowly falling like dominos. Then by accident a stranded group of soldiers find out about Pokemon and decide to fight Ponies with Pokemon.

Wait, what does Pokémon have to do with ponies?
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Postby Osnil » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:11 am

Xilonite wrote:
Osnil wrote:I have an idea for an RP-The Ponies have begun a massive world-wide coup. The governments of the world are slowly falling like dominos. Then by accident a stranded group of soldiers find out about Pokemon and decide to fight Ponies with Pokemon.

Wait, what does Pokémon have to do with ponies?

They're going going to crush them.

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Postby Jute » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:12 am

Xilonite wrote:
Osnil wrote:I have an idea for an RP-The Ponies have begun a massive world-wide coup. The governments of the world are slowly falling like dominos. Then by accident a stranded group of soldiers find out about Pokemon and decide to fight Ponies with Pokemon.

Wait, what does Pokémon have to do with ponies?

Nothing, that user just likes them.
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
"Boys and girls so happy, young and gay / Don't let false worldly joy carry your hearts away."

See the Jutean language! Talk to me about all. Avian air force flag (via) Is Religion Dangerous?

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Postby Osnil » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:23 am

Jute wrote:
Xilonite wrote:Wait, what does Pokémon have to do with ponies?

Nothing, that user just likes them.

They are an excellent way to get rid of the equinine disease.

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Postby Dragvania » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:11 pm

Osnil wrote:
Xilonite wrote:In RL, I don't hate ponies. I don't have some sick and twisted fantasy of killing them in so many ways. Honestly, I don't have a problem with ponies OOCly. But ICly, I don't like them because the word "superior" doesn't really fit their title at all whatsoever.

Not even MLPs? Ponyta is a REAL Pony. The MLPs are just stupid looking excuses for some lame rejected Anime.

This is exactly why they don't RP with us!!! Shame in you.

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