The Monarchist Federation (MT/PMT/PT/OOC-Signups)

[Polonge]

hi

[Empire of Atmora]

Edit: Nah screw this

[The Royally United Provinces]

That's very true. BTW, Deian remeber what Dreadlady said about this not being a chat and about using action

[Slavsnik]

So what are the nine classes in this Federation?

[Novo Wagondia]

So what are the nine classes in this Federation?

Not so much immovable classes but rather fluid merit-based ranks. You progress by doing deeds ( Like donations, participating in battles, securing MF allies, giving effective advice, defeating enemies that attacked where some of your troops were stationed, scoring victories, exposing traitors in the MF, fulfilling tasks, making proposals, proposing resolutions, etc. , or being recommended for a promotion and the council/GC/both the council and GC agreeing, being directly promoted by thr council or GC or both, etc.) and you are demoted by doing things against the Federation that don't result in banishment.


The higher the rank, the more important tasks you are given and you are entrusted with more important tasks, the higher your opinion on affairs are considered, the more likely someone you recommend will be promoted, and specific ranks are given tasks that suit their rank, and are entrusted to guide newer members, as well as patron newer/lower class ones and help them rise through the ranks, but if the people you recommend end up falling short, you may be punished and possibly demoted. You have to be Rank 6+ to be a Minister I think (But you can be promoted to 6th rank/class if numerous people urge/desire/recommend/propose that you are), 4+ for GC, and the Co6 are all 3rd-1st Class members, but just because you're those classes doesn't mean you are, but if one Co6 member steps down people those class and above are candidates for Co6 membership.

However, even as a council member, your rank may lower, but you aren't kicked unless you become rank 7 or below.

(Btw the higher the number, the lower the rank)


I cannot remember the exact names for each rank, bit Derita remembers.

All of this was made beforehand (And I'll add it to the constitution) but I filled up some unclear holes while explaining this by explaining it better.



I'll add it in tomorrow or whenever I have time.

Would it be too much to ask what rank I am?

[New Roma Republic]

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=312335&start=125#p23903618

So a member of the CoM posted this last night (not sure how many of you saw it). Looks like relations between us and them have degraded quickly...

[Viridisolum]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=312335&start=125#p23903618

So a member of the CoM posted this last night (not sure how many of you saw it). Looks like relations between us and them have degraded quickly...

Those are outrageous numbers of servicemen. Are those true?

[Slavsnik]

well not many people would respond in kind if some other alliance barges in no matter how polite they are...

[The Royally United Provinces]

Huh. Haters gonna hate.

But yes. Sometimes nations with outrageous militaries slip through the cracks and make it through. Only one was deliberately allowed and that's Arevea. An old friend of mine and Deians

[Elesar]

I'd just like to know what they're talking about when they mention "unrealistic RP's and military numbers." As far as I know, we've none of the sort. We only have on RP at the moment, so already they're misjudging us. We also scan our apps, and as far as I know we've never allowed anyone in with something unrealistic in that sense. Aside from Aravea of course, but that's already been explained.

So basically, I have no idea what this COM guy is talking about when he calls us unrealistic. I do, however, get his reasons for not really liking us. We're a competing monarchist group who advertised ourselves on his page. Deian, do refrain from doing so in the future. Anyhow, we should try not to sour things any worse. While I do believe his reasoning is certainly questionable, we share goals and ideology. Their alliance with SACTO is a dangerous one that we don't need to get involved with. Let's not push them any further then we already have.

[Valaran]

I'd just like to know what they're talking about when they mention "unrealistic RP's and military numbers."

In reply to this, I'd imagine he means anything that cannot be reasonably achieved by RL militaries, or RL equivalents.

[Elesar]

I'd just like to know what they're talking about when they mention "unrealistic RP's and military numbers."

In reply to this, I'd imagine he means anything that cannot be reasonably achieved by RL militaries, or RL equivalents.

The problem with that is the fact that we haven't even had a military roleplay, and hopefully the need will never arise for one. As I stated, I have no idea why he would say this.

[Valaran]

In reply to this, I'd imagine he means anything that cannot be reasonably achieved by RL militaries, or RL equivalents.

The problem with that is the fact that we haven't even had a military roleplay, and hopefully the need will never arise for one. As I stated, I have no idea why he would say this.

I agree.

But its more some things are objectively and obviously unrealistic. Such as an 80 million army.

[Slavsnik]

So then. From what I could gather our alliance's goal is to promote peaceful relations and avoid conflict unless absolutely forced to... so if this is the case, I'm guessing we would be expanding our influence through diplomacy? ( Though this might prove a little tricky, as we may inevitably end up having to face competing alliances )

Anyways, cheerios. And about that unrealistic army stuff... okay...

[Elesar]

The problem with that is the fact that we haven't even had a military roleplay, and hopefully the need will never arise for one. As I stated, I have no idea why he would say this.

I agree.

But its more some things are objectively and obviously unrealistic. Such as an 80 million army.

There really ought to be some better reviews of applications before we accept people. Anyone with that kind of military strength is a godmode waiting to happen.

[Valaran]

I tried explaining our true desires and attempted to explain what really the MF is, but I got stonewalled, harsher than necessary I may add.
I will switch my password and allow someone to temporarily log onto my nation just once to see the TG Qui sent back if they wish.

No screenshot?

[Consolidate Nations Alliance]

BASIC INFORMATION
Nation name: Consolidated Nations Alliance
Formal nation name: Socialist Minocracy of the Consolidated Nations Alliance
Government Type: Four small autonomous states under the same flag ruled by a system of four Conclaves, the main three being National, Civil and Military.
Economic System: Socialist. Only one company, each part of the company is run by guilds owned and run by the citizens and the Financial Corps of the Civil Conclave.
National population: Around 25 million (2015 census estimate)
Race or Ethnicity: Atlanian (Celtic/Gaelic), Volarian (Combination of Eastern European/Russian and Oriental/Korean/Japanese), Tamaughi (Mongolian) and Tatarstani (Arabic)
Is your nation an empire?:
[X] Yes [ ] No (technically)

MILITARY INFORMATION
Head of Defense: Wolf Xalian, Shogun of the Military, lord of Niltana Citadel and Sanilka Province
Active Military Personnel: 250,500
Reserve Military Personnel: 240,500

GOVERNMENT INFORMATION
Head of State: Emperor Luke Harris (Atlanian Empire), Queen Ainsely Montgomary (Volarian Republic), Grand Khan Amber Val'na (Tamaughi Kahnate) and Sultan Aristoo Vasiri (New Tatarstan Sultanate)
Heir Apparent: Only New Tatarstan has an heir, Asim Vasiri, currently a Major in command of Magni Squadron int he CNA Air Force
Name of Ruling Dynasty: None of the current leaders are directly related to the old ruling dynasties, although Emperor Luke Harris is distantly related to Empress Rhiannon Celestium, the third ruler of the Celestium Dynasty, and the first female ruler to not be given control peacefully (she had to fight against a rebellion that killed her father and mother)

NATION INFORMATION
Founding Date (and Age): 500 BC (1,550 years)
Brief history (not less than three sentences): The start of the Alliance was uneventful. It's first name, the Sovereign Kingdoms Alliance, was born of an idea that the (at the time) two great kingdoms would be better off allied, for mutual support. After a few years of centuries, in around 1066, the First Rebellion occurred, causing the death of Emperor Celestium, and forcing his daughter to run to the military camped at the fortress city of Tanila where most of the 66th Vanguard were camped for training and defense. After helping to reinstall the Celestium Dynasty, along with help from the 22nd Palace Guard and irregular forces inside the Volarian Republic (nomadic tribes who would later become the Tamaughi Tribal Federation, which would later be assimilated again and then reformed as we know them today under Tamaughi Khanate and New Tatarstan) a few more years of peace reigned. Finally the Celestium line failed not long after the 1940s. A few smaller families took control. The Atlanian Autocracy would be formed during this, and it would finally be put down by the brothers Wolf and Sabre Xalian to install Luke Harris, their childhood friend, as Emperor.
National Map (optional):
Geography: Forests and farmland in the east (Capital and Nalsa Provinces), mountains in the center dividing the Empire and Republic. Plains and desert on the Republic, Tamaughi and Tatarstani side of the CNA.

MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION
Membership Type:
[X] Full member [ ] Observer
Previous and current alliances: United Left (previous)
Name of Senator to Monarchist Federation: 1st Diplomat Dominique Angelic
Reasons for joining (IC): To establish alliances with similar minded nations who still have ruling families.

OOC INFORMATION
Reasons for joining (OOC): Aside from my IC reason? You guys seem awesome, plus it would give me more people to rp with.
RP Examples (provide links):
Battle of Araiya: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=242560
Vingarthan Civil War: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=242560

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Do not remove tag. Helps us find applications.

[New Aeyariss]

Hop on SACTO chat! I will attempt to solve this Deian - Qui conflict .

[Elesar]

Hopefully this issue is solved quickly. I don't want this getting blown out of proportion.

[Aeyariss]

Hopefully this issue is solved quickly.

Stand by. Since SACTO is somehow dragged in this whole MF-COM relations issue, and since an actor of COM is one of our prominent member we'll get to the bottom of this too.

I don't want this getting blown out of proportion.

Neither do we, because things like this is going to hurt OOC relations. We don't need any of that.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

What happened!?

[Elesar]

Hopefully this issue is solved quickly.

Stand by. Since SACTO is somehow dragged in this whole MF-COM relations issue, and since an actor of COM is one of our prominent member we'll get to the bottom of this too.

I don't want this getting blown out of proportion.

Neither do we, because things like this is going to hurt OOC relations. We don't need any of that.

I'll go ahead and just state my opinion on this situation:

Deian overstepped his boundaries in attempting to recruit from an alliance we didn't know was still around. However, I have to say that the accusations the COM (and apparently also SACTO) guy made towards us were really unfounded. I understand his frustration at Deian's unacceptable recruiting strategies, but he's accusing us of things we've never done. As I said earlier, we've never been in a military conflict. How can we be poor military roleplayers if we've never been to war? While I admit there are a few issues with some of the Federation's member states military sizes, there's no reason to strike out against us like that.

It's just a personal opinion, and I'm glad you're willing to work with us here. Thanks a ton.

[Elesar]

I'll go ahead and just state my opinion on this situation:

Deian overstepped his boundaries in attempting to recruit from an alliance we didn't know was still around. However, I have to say that the accusations the COM (and apparently also SACTO) guy made towards us were really unfounded. I understand his frustration at Deian's unacceptable recruiting strategies, but he's accusing us of things we've never done. As I said earlier, we've never been in a military conflict. How can we be poor military roleplayers if we've never been to war? While I admit there are a few issues with some of the Federation's member states military sizes, there's no reason to strike out against us like that.

It's just a personal opinion, and I'm glad you're willing to work with us here. Thanks a ton.

It is solved.

While I'm glad the issue was resolved, I'm still disappointed in you Deian. What you did was unacceptable. Let people find the Federation on their own. Don't recruit in other alliance's OOC's. You're not only making an ass of yourself, you're making an ass of the entire MF. So please, don't do it again. I'm warning you here.

[Aeyariss]

It is solved.

Yes, the whole thing is a no brainer and was just a simple over reacting and miscommunication.

Although, I took a look into our Chatzy room when you guys tried to solve it offsite. You should know how we felt about your attitude. Just because moderation rules doesn't apply there doesn't mean you have to be rude. Now I understand that you have that autism/ asperger/ ADHD conditions, and that might makes interpersonal communication somewhat a challenge but that is in no way a reason for you to conduct yourself like you did there.

While Qui has his own temper, your conduct is unbecoming if I may say so. You know what you wrote, what happened there shall stays there, I have no wish to bring it here. We won't tolerate that in the future.

[Aeyariss]

I realized that long before this don't worry.

I had to get it done quickly. I only asked to skip the greetings and he got pissed so I fought back when he insulted me. Also I'm in a bad mood so please don't reply on here that that's not an excuse until I'm calmer so I don't blow things out of proportion.

Yeah, before I leave you, there's a story that we all should know.

You know, not too long ago, there's three players by the name of Asigna, The United Motherland and the Elemental North.

All three played significant roles in shaping the Axis Alliance (SACTO previous form), the United Left, and the IFC.

But somewhere along the way, all three become too influential and perhaps take the Axis, UL and the IFC as their personal playthings and that things should be directed as they please and wishes so. Not realizing that each organization had outgrown their intrinsic capacity. However, they didn't notice. Just because they used to 'create' or 'run' those organizations, they are not the organizations themselves. The people, the members, those non founders become important, and when they realized that these so called Founders had been utilizing the Axis, UL and the IFC...perhaps in their own self interest, the members took their own initiative...you know what happened to these people now? Asigna tried to use Axis for his own agenda, starting a war at his own whim, and hoping the rest of Axis could just happen to defend him. The United Motherland (well I wont say what he had done)... while EN thinks is executive power extends to whenever he wanted it to be, making IFC a supposed democratic run under a totalitarian emergency regime...you know the story.

See what happened to them now?

Axis kicked out Asigna, reformed into SACTO. UL forced TUM to leave and now looks like they're slumbering with idleness, and IFC...well, luckily they're still around and EN abandoned NS altogether. These three are perhaps the oldest and still active 'alliance' in mainstream NS.

The point, there will be a time when MF, your creation, outgrown you, where the members one day will create their own direction instead of relying too much on you. If you think you can do whatever you wish with it, perhaps you should reflect on your 'leadership'. Or perhaps you may enjoy the unfortunate fate of joining those 3 fallen 'leaders'.

I'm sure you understand.