The Monarchist Federation (MT/PMT/PT/OOC-Signups)

[Valaran]

Personally, I just prefer the Imperialism

As do I, when I am the Imperial of course.

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[Allied Connurist States]

Personally, I just prefer the Imperialism

As do I, when I am the Imperial of course.

C'mon Derita, we've all seen you 'fight'.

[Zunkwentania]

It's an invasion on sovereignty, it's as simple as that. No nation would agree to that. And what are the armies for? To any leader who's not a gullible fool, they would seem like intelligence collecting forces for the Feng Empire. Raw imperialism masquerading as international cooperation.

No, I was under the impression the forces would be of thew MF, not just Deian. And to be rational they would be lead by the native armed forces. It in no way distrubs sovereignty, as the armed forces of the MF would be in one location under watch by the locals.

Indeed it does, because they can turn on you. And they would be MF, but Feng influences the MF a lot.

[Valaran]

As do I, when I am the Imperial of course.

C'mon Derita, we've all seen you 'fight'.

Yeah.

[Kingdom of Derita]

As do I, when I am the Imperial of course.

C'mon Derita, we've all seen you 'fight'.

Never said I would fight, I prefer more subtle ways to take over.

[Zunkwentania]

It's an invasion on sovereignty, it's as simple as that. No nation would agree to that. And what are the armies for? To any leader who's not a gullible fool, they would seem like intelligence collecting forces for the Feng Empire. Raw imperialism masquerading as international cooperation.

Look, I'm doing my best to explain that perception is the exact opposite of my intentions.


I do not collect intelligence and control people by being friendly.


I'll do schemes and do a lot of
planning to assure victory and do lots of stuff to win, but I don't spy on friendly nations.

Hell, I usually don't even read much about my allies and just read a bit of their factbook to ensure they won't stab my back.


I have honor, and I hold that very dear. I have my own code, and I have 4 Golden rules:

1: Seek mutual benefit through compromise
2: Don't be intentionally cruel for cruelty's sake.

3: Don't use others by pretending to be friendly to them but gathering information on them.

4: Do not fight what you cannot win against, as that is actions of a fool.



Look, I can get why you think that, but that is the last thing I'd EVER do to you.



I've been backstabbed SO many times like that, I have no respect for anyone who does that, and I'd honestly kill myself before tricking someone and manipulating someone even IC'ly, as I have too many painful memories and don't want to do the same terrible things I've had happened to me.



And you don't know my nation AT ALL if you think that.


My nation always, ALWAYS fights fairly (Gilneas is an exception) and never, NEVER, manipulates another nation as that goes against their nature and culture.


They are devius, but don't like manipulation.


I hate manipulation against anything, as it's cruel beyond words, and anyone who does so has no love in their heart. I swear on my own Nationstates account.


Every word I speak is truth.

I swear on God, on Jesus, on my self-worth, that I do not intend to do that.

And besides, its combined MF forces, not my own nation.

In fact, I'm probably only going to protect certain vassal states (Friends who I'm getting to join NS and need the protection) only.


I honestly prefer big battles than Intel collection.


Intel collection isn't interesting to me.




I honestly was actually thinking of proposing Val or RUP oversaw the program and made things more desirable and beneficial for vassal states.

I don't care. We're talking about our IC leaders' perspectives.

[Elesar]

As far as I'm concerned, UMFF troops will only be stationed in countries that ask for their presence. That's my policy towards this as GC.

[Kingdom of Derita]

Never said I would fight, I prefer more subtle ways to take over.

Which is why I advise against letting Derita even protect Vassal states.

Me? Send my army somewhere else? Eew, never. I mean subtle as in without the military.

[Allied Connurist States]

Which is why I advise against letting Derita even protect Vassal states.

Me? Send my army somewhere else? Eew, never. I mean subtle as in without the military.

Derita, there's nothing subtle about the way you arrange marriages at every opportunity, before both parties getting married have even met each other, and then use it as an excuse to pretty much control other nations and then if things go bad, refuse to get divorced at all.

[Elesar]

Ideally, there wouldn't be a viceroy at all.

[The Royally United Provinces]

You implemented vassalship without me. I never agreed

[Elesar]

Ideally, there wouldn't be a viceroy at all.

Then who commands the armies? We need a general, right?



Or else who'd be the person who ensures they're more loyal to the MF instead of abandoning them for getting a closer bond with the vassal stste if they betrayed us?



Its happened before in history you know(Like Roman legions being more loyal to their generals than their senate/Emperor, and the defection of Taishi Ci which led to his troops surrendering despite them being officially Liu Yao's trooos under his command, and also Ma Chao's defection from Liu Zhang to Liu Bei when Liu Bei besieged Liu Zhang? We ought to make sure there's at least a general from the MF leading them to prevent loyalties from easily shifting in case of betrayal or the vassal's surrender, in which thry may also surrender and abandon the MF.), and it's wise to ensure it doesn't happen to the MF.

Of course there would be a general. However, he would only be there to lead the armed forces. What I'm saying is that there would be nobody that might be perceived as the others are saying as a simple spy and intelligence gatherer. The MF respects the member states sovereignty. You of all people should know this, Deian.

[Taigawa]

Look, I'm doing my best to explain that perception is the exact opposite of my intentions.


I do not collect intelligence and control people by being friendly.


I'll do schemes and do a lot of
planning to assure victory and do lots of stuff to win, but I don't spy on friendly nations.

Hell, I usually don't even read much about my allies and just read a bit of their factbook to ensure they won't stab my back.


I have honor, and I hold that very dear. I have my own code, and I have 4 Golden rules:

1: Seek mutual benefit through compromise
2: Don't be intentionally cruel for cruelty's sake.

3: Don't use others by pretending to be friendly to them but gathering information on them.

4: Do not fight what you cannot win against, as that is actions of a fool.



Look, I can get why you think that, but that is the last thing I'd EVER do to you.



I've been backstabbed SO many times like that, I have no respect for anyone who does that, and I'd honestly kill myself before tricking someone and manipulating someone even IC'ly, as I have too many painful memories and don't want to do the same terrible things I've had happened to me.



And you don't know my nation AT ALL if you think that.


My nation always, ALWAYS fights fairly (Gilneas is an exception) and never, NEVER, manipulates another nation as that goes against their nature and culture.


They are devius, but don't like manipulation.


I hate manipulation against anything, as it's cruel beyond words, and anyone who does so has no love in their heart. I swear on my own Nationstates account.


Every word I speak is truth.

I swear on God, on Jesus, on my self-worth, that I do not intend to do that.

And besides, its combined MF forces, not my own nation.

In fact, I'm probably only going to protect certain vassal states (Friends who I'm getting to join NS and need the protection) only.


I honestly prefer big battles than Intel collection.


Intel collection isn't interesting to me.




I honestly was actually thinking of proposing Val or RUP oversaw the program and made things more desirable and beneficial for vassal states.

I don't care. We're talking about our IC leaders' perspectives.

Under normal circumstances, Neyla herself is a bit xenophobic....to the point that she used to avoid foreigners and going abroad. Since the Imperial Council the main governing entity, they have helped ease that; While she won't outright act xenophobic, earning her trust will be VERY difficult If you are not a native of our nation.

Traitors...are executed if caught here....and if my leader finds your general tried to betray her, and the Imperial Army defeats said general's forces....Neyla has a bad habit of eating non-anthro rebels/traiters.

[The Royally United Provinces]

Well. I remeber saying let democracies in but nooooo.

[Stormwrath]

And thank you Valaran.

No problem

By the way, where is the MF charter?

In my Google Docs.

To clear things up, we should be like a Holy Roman Empire, not like a United States of America. It's because there are some members that do not want their sovereignty violated. This is why I raised an eyebrow over the vassal state idea, because by definition a vassal is a subordinate of a certain entity, in this case the MF.

[Viridisolum]

I'll never will agree to this foolish nonesense. A representative that takes charge of one's state affairs in behalf of another is tyranny. Do you even know the definition of a viceroy?

[Elesar]

I'll never will agree to this foolish nonesense. A representative that takes charge of one's state affairs in behalf of another is tyranny. Do you even know the definition of a viceroy?

I know the definition, and I agree that what Deian has put forward is both tyrannical and an infringement upon national sovereignty. In the future, I'd like to be alerted of any policies created before I joined the Federation. As Grand Chancellor, I have every right to know of these. You can't keep these things hidden.

[Stormwrath]

I'll never will agree to this foolish nonesense. A representative that takes charge of one's state affairs in behalf of another is tyranny. Do you even know the definition of a viceroy?

This. If we don't change how this MF works I may go down to observer status.

[Aigeantir]

For the record, anyone who wants to keep their freedoms can apply to be a vassal to me, since I tend to already be a pro national sovereignty nation, and therefore would exercise the right to let vassal nations choose whether or not they even want my monarch as a figurehead, or any other outside intervention into their politics, culture, economics, etc. for that matter.

[Empire of Atmora]

BASIC INFORMATION
Nation name: Intergalactic Empire of Atmora
Government Type: Semi-Absolute Monarchy with Parliamentary Democracy
National population: 52 quintillion
Race or Ethnicity: Elven
Is your nation an empire?:
[ x] Yes [ ] No

MILITARY INFORMATION
Active Military Personnel: 50 trillion
Reserve Military Personnel: 50 billion

GOVERNMENT INFORMATION
Head of State: Emperor Daral
Name of Ruling Dynasty: Crown Princess Crystal

NATION INFORMATION
Founding Date (and Age): July 30, 1567
Brief history (not less than three sentences):
Before written history Atmora existed. Know as the Kingdom of Miena after the Atmoran goddess of kings. Legend holds that Miena erupted into a violent civil war spilling Elven, Human, Dwarven, Orcish, Anthran blood on the Symian Archipelago. Eventually the races spilt part as the Anthros went to the East and majority of the races settled in Crosun. Centuries later the Empires of Dertona and Vencia rised dominating the continent. During the 16th century the Kingdom of Adoria revolted against Vencia defeating and wiping out Vencia from the face of Lythame. The Royal Adorian Forces marched and conquered the Crosunian Kingdoms including the archipelagos of Symia and Atora.

Atmora reaches its moon in 1700's. Atmora explores it's home system in the mid 1800's. The late 1800's the Atmoran interstellar Empire declares war upon the Trontonian Empire and Cadolian Confederation sparking the First Galactic War. 20th century Atmora faces her civil rights era sparking the Atmoran Civil War. 20th century the Atmoran empire becomes a massive intergalactic empire after the GWII, Galactic War II which gains Atmora dominance over Haven, Sapphire, and the Great Elven. Atmora invades the Milky Way forming the Atmoran United Dominions of Walsingham. 21st century Elven-Orcish War, Elven-Terran War, Elven-Dwarven War, Elven-Xeno War, War of Vector, Second Blood War, and Kymira Epidemic (Something like this)

MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION
Membership Type:
[ X] Full member [ ] Observer
Previous and current alliances: Multi-Species Union, United Forces Alliance, Commonwealth Defense Agreement
Name of Senator to Monarchist Federation: Duke Erickson Graham
Reasons for joining (IC): Increase diplomacy, Increase Trade, Increase defense, Decrease Atmoran imperial aggression

OOC INFORMATION
Reasons for joining (OOC): To make allies throughout the multiverse with other monarchies. To increase diplomacy
RP Examples (provide links):
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=329025

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[Elesar]

BASIC INFORMATION
Nation name: Intergalactic Empire of Atmora
Government Type: Semi-Absolute Monarchy with Parliamentary Democracy
National population: 52 quintillion
Race or Ethnicity: Elven
Is your nation an empire?:
[ x] Yes [ ] No

MILITARY INFORMATION
Active Military Personnel: 50 trillion
Reserve Military Personnel: 50 billion

GOVERNMENT INFORMATION
Head of State: Emperor Daral
Name of Ruling Dynasty: Crown Princess Crystal

NATION INFORMATION
Founding Date (and Age): July 30, 1567
Brief history (not less than three sentences):
Before written history Atmora existed. Know as the Kingdom of Miena after the Atmoran goddess of kings. Legend holds that Miena erupted into a violent civil war spilling Elven, Human, Dwarven, Orcish, Anthran blood on the Symian Archipelago. Eventually the races spilt part as the Anthros went to the East and majority of the races settled in Crosun. Centuries later the Empires of Dertona and Vencia rised dominating the continent. During the 16th century the Kingdom of Adoria revolted against Vencia defeating and wiping out Vencia from the face of Lythame. The Royal Adorian Forces marched and conquered the Crosunian Kingdoms including the archipelagos of Symia and Atora.

Atmora reaches its moon in 1700's. Atmora explores it's home system in the mid 1800's. The late 1800's the Atmoran interstellar Empire declares war upon the Trontonian Empire and Cadolian Confederation sparking the First Galactic War. 20th century Atmora faces her civil rights era sparking the Atmoran Civil War. 20th century the Atmoran empire becomes a massive intergalactic empire after the GWII, Galactic War II which gains Atmora dominance over Haven, Sapphire, and the Great Elven. Atmora invades the Milky Way forming the Atmoran United Dominions of Walsingham. 21st century Elven-Orcish War, Elven-Terran War, Elven-Dwarven War, Elven-Xeno War, War of Vector, Second Blood War, and Kymira Epidemic (Something like this)

MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION
Membership Type:
[ X] Full member [ ] Observer
Previous and current alliances: Multi-Species Union, United Forces Alliance, Commonwealth Defense Agreement
Name of Senator to Monarchist Federation: Duke Erickson Graham
Reasons for joining (IC): Increase diplomacy, Increase Trade, Increase defense, Decrease Atmoran imperial aggression

OOC INFORMATION
Reasons for joining (OOC): To make allies throughout the multiverse with other monarchies. To increase diplomacy
RP Examples (provide links):
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=329025

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Absolutely not. Those populations are atrocious.

[New Chilokver]

I was bored, so meh:

BASIC INFORMATION
Nation name: Chilokver
Formal nation name: Karlaesist Meritocracy of Chilokver
Government Type: Parliamentary republic, but with restrictions as in pretitle. Country is secretly controlled by a stratocratic oligarchy, but this is ICly unknown.
Economic System: Currently reworking canon.
National population: 193 million
Race or Ethnicity: Sino-british (think Chinese, but culturally British)
Is your nation an empire?:
[ ] Yes [x] No

MILITARY INFORMATION
Head of Defense: The Council of Three (oligarchy mentioned earlier)
Active Military Personnel: Currently reworking canon.
Reserve Military Personnel: Currently reworking canon.

GOVERNMENT INFORMATION
Head of State: President Frederick Chen
Heir Apparent: NA
Name of Ruling Dynasty: NA

NATION INFORMATION
Founding Date (and Age): Valentines Day, 1990.
Brief history (not less than three sentences):
National Map (optional): Plot 102 of
Geography: Currently reworking canon.

MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION
Membership Type:
[ ] Full member [x] Observer
Previous and current alliances: IFC, UL. Way too many other now dead alliances to list.
Name of Senator to Monarchist Federation: Ambassador Megan Connors
Reasons for joining (IC): To observe any developments and changes in this rather powerful monarchist alliance.

OOC INFORMATION
Reasons for joining (OOC): Because it seems to be rising to be influential in NS?
RP Examples (provide links):

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#MonarchistFed
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You could be a Vassal state, which is between member and observer.

The Vassal state program isn't like a normal "Surrender" and you are not a province of the MF, you are independant but have a MF Viceroy from a chosen nation watching over your nation and making sure you don't do stuff that conflicts with MF interests, and you have a small military protecting your nation from a few MF volunteer nations or, if no one volunteers, an assigned or requested person either assigned/requested from the MF government, or requested by yourself.

Though to keep it legitimate, you do have to pay 1/100 your budget to the MF which will go to the MF treasury, and that shouldn't weaken your nation too much.

Alternatively, you could give us a different type of payment for protecting you and recognizing you as a Vassal of the MF.


You can hold CERTAIN government positions, but cannot vote on most things, but sometimes on really big issues you can. And you can be any type of government(Except if you're tyrannical and cruel) and be a Vassal state.

Interested, or will you stick with observer?

No thank you.

[Stormwrath]

BASIC INFORMATION
Nation name: Intergalactic Empire of Atmora
Government Type: Semi-Absolute Monarchy with Parliamentary Democracy
National population: 52 quintillion
Race or Ethnicity: Elven
Is your nation an empire?:
[ x] Yes [ ] No

MILITARY INFORMATION
Active Military Personnel: 50 trillion
Reserve Military Personnel: 50 billion

GOVERNMENT INFORMATION
Head of State: Emperor Daral
Name of Ruling Dynasty: Crown Princess Crystal

NATION INFORMATION
Founding Date (and Age): July 30, 1567
Brief history (not less than three sentences):
Before written history Atmora existed. Know as the Kingdom of Miena after the Atmoran goddess of kings. Legend holds that Miena erupted into a violent civil war spilling Elven, Human, Dwarven, Orcish, Anthran blood on the Symian Archipelago. Eventually the races spilt part as the Anthros went to the East and majority of the races settled in Crosun. Centuries later the Empires of Dertona and Vencia rised dominating the continent. During the 16th century the Kingdom of Adoria revolted against Vencia defeating and wiping out Vencia from the face of Lythame. The Royal Adorian Forces marched and conquered the Crosunian Kingdoms including the archipelagos of Symia and Atora.

Atmora reaches its moon in 1700's. Atmora explores it's home system in the mid 1800's. The late 1800's the Atmoran interstellar Empire declares war upon the Trontonian Empire and Cadolian Confederation sparking the First Galactic War. 20th century Atmora faces her civil rights era sparking the Atmoran Civil War. 20th century the Atmoran empire becomes a massive intergalactic empire after the GWII, Galactic War II which gains Atmora dominance over Haven, Sapphire, and the Great Elven. Atmora invades the Milky Way forming the Atmoran United Dominions of Walsingham. 21st century Elven-Orcish War, Elven-Terran War, Elven-Dwarven War, Elven-Xeno War, War of Vector, Second Blood War, and Kymira Epidemic (Something like this)

MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION
Membership Type:
[ X] Full member [ ] Observer
Previous and current alliances: Multi-Species Union, United Forces Alliance, Commonwealth Defense Agreement
Name of Senator to Monarchist Federation: Duke Erickson Graham
Reasons for joining (IC): Increase diplomacy, Increase Trade, Increase defense, Decrease Atmoran imperial aggression

OOC INFORMATION
Reasons for joining (OOC): To make allies throughout the multiverse with other monarchies. To increase diplomacy
RP Examples (provide links):
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=329025

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#MonarchistFed
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For heaven's sake, this is an MT to PMT alliance. No FT here. And before you ask me why I am here, it's because I used my MT-PMT nation, Stormwrath-Palmaria.

[Viridisolum]

For the record, anyone who wants to keep their freedoms can apply to be a vassal to me, since I tend to already be a pro national sovereignty nation, and therefore would exercise the right to let vassal nations choose whether or not they even want my monarch as a figurehead, or any other outside intervention into their politics, culture, economics, etc. for that matter.

Nobody does not need to be a vassal. Anyways, we should not allow republics in the first place.

[Viridisolum]

You could be a Vassal state, which is between member and observer.

The Vassal state program isn't like a normal "Surrender" and you are not a province of the MF, you are independant but have a MF Viceroy from a chosen nation watching over your nation and making sure you don't do stuff that conflicts with MF interests, and you have a small military protecting your nation from a few MF volunteer nations or, if no one volunteers, an assigned or requested person either assigned/requested from the MF government, or requested by yourself.

Though to keep it legitimate, you do have to pay 1/100 your budget to the MF which will go to the MF treasury, and that shouldn't weaken your nation too much.

Alternatively, you could give us a different type of payment for protecting you and recognizing you as a Vassal of the MF.


You can hold CERTAIN government positions, but cannot vote on most things, but sometimes on really big issues you can. And you can be any type of government(Except if you're tyrannical and cruel) and be a Vassal state.

Interested, or will you stick with observer?

No thank you.

You should retract your application since this matter has gone too far however you could have the Valaran Emperor as your chief of state but will not be legally defined as a "monarch" but a head of state. Nothing but a figurehead that does not speak or attain any sort of power.