United Monarchist Alliance (OOC, Signups, Observers Allowed)

[Serbian Orthodox Church]

We can solve their issues, maybe.

No, there are far too many and it would be better for us to focus on forming this alliance fully

I have proposed some targets.

[Muzztopia]

No, there are far too many and it would be better for us to focus on forming this alliance fully

I have proposed some targets.

We will not working with CoM what so ever, for you rote rpoints Wyz and I will discuss it later on today

[Valaran]

Well that's rather easy. As Prime Minister of the IFC, I can establish friendly relations right now.

Our alliances may have not the same ideologies but they can collaborate together and protect each other, we can form the relationships right now.

I've just raised this point with the other secretary generals of the IFC.

Also, good to see you round Muzz and Lykens

[Wyztrkstan]

Our alliances may have not the same ideologies but they can collaborate together and protect each other, we can form the relationships right now.

I've just raised this point with the other secretary generals of the IFC.

Also, good to see you round Muzz and Lykens

I don't exist.

[Serbian Orthodox Church]

Our alliances may have not the same ideologies but they can collaborate together and protect each other, we can form the relationships right now.

I've just raised this point with the other secretary generals of the IFC.

Also, good to see you round Muzz and Lykens

That means we can collaborate?

[Valaran]

I've just raised this point with the other secretary generals of the IFC.

Also, good to see you round Muzz and Lykens

I don't exist.

I know the others, but I haven't made your acquaintance yet

[Muzztopia]

I've just raised this point with the other secretary generals of the IFC.

Also, good to see you round Muzz and Lykens

That means we can collaborate?

That is not for you to decide

[Muzztopia]

Our alliances may have not the same ideologies but they can collaborate together and protect each other, we can form the relationships right now.

I've just raised this point with the other secretary generals of the IFC.

Also, good to see you round Muzz and Lykens

what did they have to say?

[Wyztrkstan]

I don't exist.

I know the others, but I haven't made your acquaintance yet

Ah, okay.
We! Must! Talk!

Maybe an RP?

Pertaining to.

Well, for one, we'll need a government, yes?
Why not make a little summit thing just to pass the time while we work on it OOCly.

[Serbian Orthodox Church]

That means we can collaborate?

That is not for you to decide

But it was MY idea, that means I can decide on that.

[Orange-Bourgogne]

National Info:

Nation Name: The Principality of Orange-Bourgogne (Orange-Bourgogne)
Head of State Name: The Prince of Orange, Willem III
Head of Government Name: Prime Minister Bram van Holland
Economic System: capitalism
Defense Minister (or equivalent): Daan Visser (Minister of National Affairs)
Foreign Minister (or equivalent): Ruben Bos (Minister of International Affairs)
Active Military Personnel: 704.000
Reserve Military Personnel: about 5 million people
Capital City: Den Haag (The Hague)
RP Population (Your NS population or lower, please): 32.000.000

Royal Family Info:

Name of Monarch: Prince of Orange Willem III
Dynasty/Family Name: Orange
Spouse of Monarch Name (if applicable): N/A
Princes/Princesses Names: N/A

General Info:

Why do you want to join?: Because I want to bond with other nations that are based on a monarchy.
What are your goals for the alliance?: Bond my nation with others.
Do you like to RP?: Maybe, if I have enough time, I will.
Do you agree to the rules?: Yes.

[United Monarchist Alliance]

National Info:

Nation Name: The Principality of Orange-Bourgogne (Orange-Bourgogne)
Head of State Name: The Prince of Orange, Willem III
Head of Government Name: Prime Minister Bram van Holland
Economic System: capitalism
Defense Minister (or equivalent): Daan Visser (Minister of National Affairs)
Foreign Minister (or equivalent): Ruben Bos (Minister of International Affairs)
Active Military Personnel: 704.000
Reserve Military Personnel: about 5 million people
Capital City: Den Haag (The Hague)
RP Population (Your NS population or lower, please): 32.000.000

Royal Family Info:

Name of Monarch: Prince of Orange Willem III
Dynasty/Family Name: Orange
Spouse of Monarch Name (if applicable): N/A
Princes/Princesses Names: N/A

General Info:

Why do you want to join?: Because I want to bond with other nations that are based on a monarchy.
What are your goals for the alliance?: Bond my nation with others.
Do you like to RP?: Maybe, if I have enough time, I will.
Do you agree to the rules?: Yes.

ACCEPTED BUT PROBATIONARY.

Just a precaution.

[United Monarchist Alliance]

That is not for you to decide

But it was MY idea, that means I can decide on that.

Except the founders have final say on everything having to do with the alliance.

Meaning it's not for you to decide.

[Serbian Orthodox Church]

But it was MY idea, that means I can decide on that.

Except the founders have final say on everything having to do with the alliance.

Meaning it's not for you to decide.

You have no rights to my idea though, even if you are the leaders.

[Muzztopia]

Except the founders have final say on everything having to do with the alliance.

Meaning it's not for you to decide.

You have no rights to my idea though, even if you are the leaders.

This is not YOUR Alliance so it is not up to you to pick the direction of this Alliance. The Founders decisions are ABSOLUTE and FINAL if you don't like it LEAVE

[Serbian Orthodox Church]

You have no rights to my idea though, even if you are the leaders.

This is not YOUR Alliance so it is not up to you to pick the direction of this Alliance. The Founders decisions are ABSOLUTE and FINAL if you don't like it LEAVE

A right leader wouldn't ask a random person to leave nor to take the right of someone else's idea. If YOU don't like it then DON'T offend me.

[Orange-Bourgogne]

Please calm down a bit guys.
To Serbian Orthodox Church:
Yes it was your opinion. But you don't just make alliances between unions without at least the opinion(-s) of others, especially without the opinion from the Founder of this union. In the rules (no. 10) is said that a decision ~by the founder~ is final, if you don't agree on that, maybe you should leave the union, as Muzztopia said.

To Muzztopia:
Yes it's up to you to make the final decision. But maybe you should be open for suggestions. You could wait for more members and then vote for alliances. Yes I recognise your right as the founder to veto the subjects we speak about, but maybe you should be more open. "Governing" a union isn't about one person and his opinions, it's about making deals between members and leading them in the state of mind of the union.

Let's be clear I want to be neutral on alliances, that is not up to me (yet), but everyone should try their best to understand each other, otherwise this United Monarchist Alliance is doomed.

[Muzztopia]

This is not YOUR Alliance so it is not up to you to pick the direction of this Alliance. The Founders decisions are ABSOLUTE and FINAL if you don't like it LEAVE

A right leader wouldn't ask a random person to leave nor to take the right of someone else's idea. If YOU don't like it then DON'T offend me.

YOU have no RIGHT to organize the AFFAIRS of the alliance and you are acting out of line.

[Valaran]

I know the others, but I haven't made your acquaintance yet

Ah, okay.
We! Must! Talk!

Happy to

[Muzztopia]

Please calm down a bit guys.
To Serbian Orthodox Church:
Yes it was your opinion. But you don't just make alliances between unions without at least the opinion(-s) of others, especially without the opinion from the Founder of this union. In the rules (no. 10) is said that a decision ~by the founder~ is final, if you don't agree on that, maybe you should leave the union, as Muzztopia said.

To Muzztopia:
Yes it's up to you to make the final decision. But maybe you should be open for suggestions. You could wait for more members and then vote for alliances. Yes I recognise your right as the founder to veto the subjects we speak about, but maybe you should be more open. "Governing" a union isn't about one person and his opinions, it's about making deals between members and leading them in the state of mind of the union.

Let's be clear I want to be neutral on alliances, that is not up to me (yet), but everyone should try their best to understand each other, otherwise this United Monarchist Alliance is doomed.

We are open to suggestions, however he is acting out of line by trying to pursue a relationship with the IFC on behalf of UMA of which he has no right to do. He also believes because it is his suggestion he has the right to decide if we even listen to it.

[Valaran]

Also since the suggestion (and my agreement to it) seems to have caused some debate, I'm happy to clear things up if that helps

[Muzztopia]

Also since the suggestion (and my agreement to it) seems to have caused some debate, I'm happy to clear things up if that helps

It isn't up for debate the founders will respond to it as we see fit when a decision has been reached.

[Valaran]

Also since the suggestion (and my agreement to it) seems to have caused some debate, I'm happy to clear things up if that helps

It isn't up for debate the founders will respond to it as we see fit when a decision has been reached.

Was just trying to help....

[Muzztopia]

It isn't up for debate the founders will respond to it as we see fit when a decision has been reached.

Was just trying to help....

I know but UMA is not debating the topic officially it is just a member who believes that because they made the suggestion that they should decided if it is considered.

[Wyztrkstan]

Clearly Serb doesn't get how an alliance works.