The Multi-Species Union [Alliance, Main Page, OOC]

[Planeia]

Good thing the MSU isn't about discriminating government types, otherwise we couldn't be a part of it. Planeia is DEHMAHCRISEE to the core. We generally object to the ultimate say, or at least some of it, not being vested in the People, and their choice to be oppressed or not.

[Roski]

AS in Ideology Spreading goals.

Main ideologies:

• to use diplomacy as a means to achieve peace.
• to promote free trade and information to all member nations so long as it doesn't compromise their tech level integrity.
• to champion against discrimination of a nation based upon species, government leadership style or tech level.
• to defend all member nations, whether they are human, anthro, pony or the many others scattered across the universe.

The charter explains how our "liberal ideologies" are promoted and spread, and the lengths we'd go to protect those ideologies.

That's not an ideology, that promotion of alliances.
Ideology as in Marxism, Stalinism, Democracy, Republicanism, Communism etc etc

[-The Trade Federation-]

Okay, so...

Is it okay if I sollicit military help ?

[Mincaldenteans]

Main ideologies:

• to use diplomacy as a means to achieve peace.
• to promote free trade and information to all member nations so long as it doesn't compromise their tech level integrity.
• to champion against discrimination of a nation based upon species, government leadership style or tech level.
• to defend all member nations, whether they are human, anthro, pony or the many others scattered across the universe.

The charter explains how our "liberal ideologies" are promoted and spread, and the lengths we'd go to protect those ideologies.

That's not an ideology, that promotion of alliances.
Ideology as in Marxism, Stalinism, Democracy, Republicanism, Communism etc etc

Wrong. Ideology is not solely based on government activism, promotion or otherwise. Ideology can also be a structure of ideas for an organization. It's meaning is broad and encompassing. The entire MSU charter in and of itself can be looked upon as an ideological document, but Swith has highlighted its core points.

[Roski]

That's not an ideology, that promotion of alliances.
Ideology as in Marxism, Stalinism, Democracy, Republicanism, Communism etc etc

Wrong. Ideology is not solely based on government activism, promotion or otherwise. Ideology can also be a structure of ideas for an organization. It's meaning is broad and encompassing. The entire MSU charter in and of itself can be looked upon as an ideological document, but Swith has highlighted its core points.

But its not a Political Ideology, which is what the IFC uses

[Tiltjuice]

Wrong. Ideology is not solely based on government activism, promotion or otherwise. Ideology can also be a structure of ideas for an organization. It's meaning is broad and encompassing. The entire MSU charter in and of itself can be looked upon as an ideological document, but Swith has highlighted its core points.

But its not a Political Ideology, which is what the IFC uses

I fail to see the relevance of this, since this is not the IFC.

[Roski]

But its not a Political Ideology, which is what the IFC uses

I fail to see the relevance of this, since this is not the IFC.

It was a debate about the IFC -_-

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

No, it was a debate about entrance of the IFC, not the IFC in general.
I'd like to put a end if I can about this debate that skewed so badly from co-membership to political ideologies.
In other words, no, this alliance will not be entering the IFC as decided by the members, unless someone would like to differ.

[Swith Witherward]

Okay, so...

Is it okay if I sollicit military help ?

What's up? You can ask nations to help or you can ask the alliance to help, but the alliance is limited in what it can and can't do. It's under the peacekeeping portion in the charter.

[Novia Soviet Socialist Republic]

Okay, so...

Is it okay if I sollicit military help ?

What kind of help? Like Swith said. We can only play a peacekeeping role. Though I don't know if there's anything stopping me from giving you supplies to help you. Lemme take a look.

[-The Trade Federation-]

I ain't going to last very long against dozens of millions of troops.

And I only have 4 million troops.

[Tiltjuice]

I ain't going to last very long against dozens of millions of troops.

And I only have 4 million troops.

Guerrilla warfare. What's your geoastrography like?

[Novia Soviet Socialist Republic]

I ain't going to last very long against dozens of millions of troops.

And I only have 4 million troops.

o.o

Who did you piss off?

[-The Trade Federation-]

I ain't going to last very long against dozens of millions of troops.

And I only have 4 million troops.

Guerrilla warfare. What's your geoastrography like?

Basically, the west is green fertile hills and coastlines, the west a thick forest and the north, a chain of huge mountains.

[Cerillium]

I ain't going to last very long against dozens of millions of troops.

And I only have 4 million troops.

You can choose to ignore another player's declaration of war especially if that player has overwhelming might.

[-The Trade Federation-]

I ain't going to last very long against dozens of millions of troops.

And I only have 4 million troops.

o.o

Who did you piss off?

Paddy O Fernature.

[Tiltjuice]

Guerrilla warfare. What's your geoastrography like?

Basically, the west is green fertile hills and coastlines, the west a thick forest and the north, a chain of huge mountains.

Tailor made for asymmetrics.

Do you have sheep?

[-The Trade Federation-]

Basically, the west is green fertile hills and coastlines, the west a thick forest and the north, a chain of huge mountains.

Tailor made for asymmetrics.

Do you have sheep?

Didn't really understand what you said...

[Tiltjuice]

Tailor made for asymmetrics.

Do you have sheep?

Didn't really understand what you said...

Asymmetric warfare, of which guerrilla warfare is one form.

[-The Trade Federation-]

Didn't really understand what you said...

Asymmetric warfare, of which guerrilla warfare is one form.

Well, I am presuming he would rapidly take my coasts and fields, but have a hard time with the mountains.

Also, guerilla warfare won't inflict much on such a large army.

[-The Trade Federation-]

I ain't going to last very long against dozens of millions of troops.

And I only have 4 million troops.

You can choose to ignore another player's declaration of war especially if that player has overwhelming might.

Not going to help.

Besides, I have tensions to take care of.

[Primordial Luxa]

Okay, so...

Is it okay if I sollicit military help ?

In what exactly?
Whos the enemy?
What his strategic goals?
What kind of force does he have?
What kind of force do you have?
Whats the environment like?
How long has the conflict been going on?
Whats you economic power like?
Whats his economic power like?
I would love to help, I like to think of myself as militarily savvy and I have a whole coalition already on stand by.

[Stormwrath]

Official Statement from the Head Commissioner (in the style of a WA Resolution):

Recognizing that the Multi-Species Union is an alliance open to all forms of government and all tech levels,

Further recognizing that the International Freedom Coalition has created a pact for dual membership for MSU members,

Understanding the IFC's ideologies conform to republican forms of government and modern levels of technology,

Noting that some member-nations of the MSU are outside of the IFC's qualifications and might go against the interests and goals of the IFC,

Recommending that the IFC send a representative as an observer-nation or approach us directly so that the Congressional Union can vote on opening relations with them,

Hereby rejects this pact with the International Freedom Coalition.

[Arcanium of Mars]

I ain't going to last very long against dozens of millions of troops.

And I only have 4 million troops.

Wish I could but, I am already dealing with some things myself. Princess Cosmic Dust is trying to go commando and deal with a terrorist problem at the summit while two of my other characters are exploring an island on Earth.

[Chilokver]

So...... what have I missed?