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by **The High Lords** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:51 pm

Novo Wagondia wrote:
The High Lords wrote:
Ah, that's stupid. There should be some sort of rule that allows IFC members to assist even in closed RPs... Like an official "Attack one, attack all" rule. You don't just attack Florida and not expect the entire United States to respond...

It seems the nation being attacked has agreed that a closed RP is best, so I suggest we stay out seeing as we aren't immediately wanted. It's better to have a member state stay in the IFC but consciously decline assistance then to assist against their wishes, piss off his opponents and probably the defender themselves, and risk somebody leaving the alliance, or giving the alliance a bad name. Besides, worst case scenario, they call for aid later when the enemy has swarmed them and they see the futility of standing alone, or just suffer the consequences and remember next time to accept an allied coalition.

Ah, I didn't see that he agreed to a closed RP. Okay.

by **The United Motherland** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:53 pm

I think this should be more of a moment when you cut of the umbelical cord of support, or just not recognize the RP. Beacuse these RPs totally defy the reason of having a defense pact.

It's like the UL ganging up on Brat but not accepting IFC. Do as you please; but in my instance I would require it to be open to all alliances it is apart of.

by **Roski** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:55 pm

The United Motherland wrote:I think this should be more of a moment when you cut of the umbelical cord of support, or just not recognize the RP. Beacuse these RPs totally defy the reason of having a defense pact.

It's like the UL ganging up on Brat but not accepting IFC. Do as you please; but in my instance I would require it to be open to all alliances it is apart of.

No, no.

Let them die off one by one. It will be easier for the coming IFC Collapse.

by **Novo Wagondia** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:55 pm

The High Lords wrote:
Novo Wagondia wrote:
It seems the nation being attacked has agreed that a closed RP is best, so I suggest we stay out seeing as we aren't immediately wanted. It's better to have a member state stay in the IFC but consciously decline assistance then to assist against their wishes, piss off his opponents and probably the defender themselves, and risk somebody leaving the alliance, or giving the alliance a bad name. Besides, worst case scenario, they call for aid later when the enemy has swarmed them and they see the futility of standing alone, or just suffer the consequences and remember next time to accept an allied coalition.

Ah, I didn't see that he agreed to a closed RP. Okay.

At least that's what I believe. It would be a clear abuse of power if it wasn't mutually agreed upon

by **Elemental North** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:12 pm

So what are we doing here? Are we going to force me out, are we just going to pretend this never happened, are we going to eat cookies? What's going on?

by **New Chilokver** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:16 pm

Elemental North wrote:So what are we doing here? Are we going to force me out, are we just going to pretend this never happened, are we going to eat cookies? What's going on?

I think you're staying, at least till the next elections. Argentarino has refused IFC aid, so that's that. Oh, and The High Lords's app needs to be checked.

by **Valaran** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:24 pm

The United Motherland wrote:I think this should be more of a moment when you cut of the umbelical cord of support, or just not recognize the RP. Beacuse these RPs totally defy the reason of having a defense pact.

It's like the UL ganging up on Brat but not accepting IFC. Do as you please; but in my instance I would require it to be open to all alliances it is apart of.

The nation wasn't in the IFC when the RP was started, and when he made his app here he said it wouldn't be for support in this war. He also co-authored the RP under the side limits.

But yes, aside from this specific instance (which is complicated), the defence pact is there.

by **New Carloso** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:26 pm

Valaran wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:I think this should be more of a moment when you cut of the umbelical cord of support, or just not recognize the RP. Beacuse these RPs totally defy the reason of having a defense pact.

It's like the UL ganging up on Brat but not accepting IFC. Do as you please; but in my instance I would require it to be open to all alliances it is apart of.

The nation wasn't in the IFC when the RP was started, and when he made his app here he said it wouldn't be for support in this war. He also co-authored the RP under the side limits.

But yes, aside from this specific instance (which is complicated), the defence pact is there.

But war was declared after he became a member

by **Elemental North** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:28 pm

Guys, there's a rather important vote in Council at the moment. I'd appreciate your votes on the matter.
Thank you.

by **New Carloso** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:58 pm

SAY YUS TO NUMBER 2 FOR MOAR WAR AND SPREADING OF FRAYDOM AND DA DEMOCRACY!!!!11!!"¬

by **The Nation of Ceneria** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:01 pm

New Carloso wrote:SAY YUS TO NUMBER 2 FOR MOAR WAR AND SPREADING OF FRAYDOM AND DA DEMOCRACY!!!!11!!"¬

YAYY!

by **Mizrad** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:33 pm

So can Mizrad into war against SACTO if it does occur?

by **Elemental North** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:35 pm

Mizrad wrote:So can Mizrad into war against SACTO if it does occur?

Yes. So long as you are coordinated and constantly in contact with the RRF commander.

by **Mizrad** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:42 pm

Elemental North wrote:
Mizrad wrote:So can Mizrad into war against SACTO if it does occur?

Yes. So long as you are coordinated and constantly in contact with the RRF commander.

I will be, speaking of which how's the SCOESAF thread coming along? I posted in it yesterday.

I think Mizrad could definitely make one hell of an entrance in such an RP.

by **Elemental North** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:08 pm

Mizrad wrote:
Elemental North wrote:
Yes. So long as you are coordinated and constantly in contact with the RRF commander.

I will be, speaking of which how's the SCOESAF thread coming along? I posted in it yesterday.

I think Mizrad could definitely make one hell of an entrance in such an RP.

Oh, I need to check on that. Things have had to be put on hold amongst developments.

by **New Carloso** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:15 pm

Nice to see we got something done over in the council.

by **Valaran** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:17 pm

New Carloso wrote:Nice to see we got something done over in the council.

Yeah, was good to see

by **The Nation of Ceneria** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:17 pm

Valaran wrote:
New Carloso wrote:Nice to see we got something done over in the council.

Yeah, was good to see

VALL!!

by **Republic of Vietnam** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:19 pm

The Nation of Ceneria wrote:
New Carloso wrote:SAY YUS TO NUMBER 2 FOR MOAR WAR AND SPREADING OF FRAYDOM AND DA DEMOCRACY!!!!11!!"¬

YAYY!

I need to invest more in my military...

by **New Carloso** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:20 pm

Republic of Vietnam wrote:
The Nation of Ceneria wrote:YAYY!

I need to invest more in my military...

Your first to go

by **Zunkwentania** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:20 pm

New Carloso wrote:Nice to see we got something done over in the council.

Yeah, it was refreshing

by **Valaran** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:21 pm

The Nation of Ceneria wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Yeah, was good to see

VALL!!

Night Cen

by **Republic of Vietnam** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:21 pm

Valaran wrote:
The Nation of Ceneria wrote:VALL!!

Night Cen

by **The Nation of Ceneria** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:23 pm

Valaran wrote:
The Nation of Ceneria wrote:VALL!!

Night Cen

NOOOOOO!

Night!

by **The Nation of Ceneria** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:24 pm

Oh, and RVN. . . .

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