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Valaran
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Founded: May 25, 2014
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Postby Valaran » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:02 pm

Cyllea wrote:
i kno but you're not in the IFC anymore. I mean I don't think there's anyone currently in the IFC who could do a better job. c:


:p :hug: *rejoins*
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
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Zunkwentania
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Founded: Apr 06, 2014
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Postby Zunkwentania » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:03 pm

Valaran wrote:
Cyllea wrote:lol as if anyone else would do a better job than libraria. Ah well, a nice monday afternoon, fracturing in the IFC.. Wonderful. :p



> was IFC foreign minister for 3 consecutive terms
> longest serving IFC minister
> Cyl no remember

*sobs* ;-;

Yeah, but Lib was also awesome. Anyway, this signals corruption in the administration, and we need a reason. If Brat would let me, perhaps I could start a petition?

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Furry Alairia and Algeria
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Founded: Apr 05, 2014
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:03 pm

Valaran wrote:
Cyllea wrote:
i kno but you're not in the IFC anymore. I mean I don't think there's anyone currently in the IFC who could do a better job. c:


:p :hug: *rejoins*

*Proposition 40 comes into play*
*Prop 40 shot down*
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Valaran
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Founded: May 25, 2014
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Postby Valaran » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:04 pm

Zunkwentania wrote:
Valaran wrote:

> was IFC foreign minister for 3 consecutive terms
> longest serving IFC minister
> Cyl no remember

*sobs* ;-;

Yeah, but Lib was also awesome. Anyway, this signals corruption in the administration, and we need a reason. If Brat would let me, perhaps I could start a petition?



Don't think it was corruption :)
And I wouldn't defend lib if he wasn't awesome :p
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Bratislav
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Founded: May 03, 2013
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Postby Bratislav » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:05 pm

Guys, well what can I say, this is how this system of democracy works. You elect Elemental North, he forms a cabinet, and with that he has the power to both appoint and fire people in his cabinet. If you don't agree with EN's decisions, then you will either not vote for him in the next election or if a large amount of people are against his leadership, you can have a vote of no-confidence. As you see, all democratic measures are in place to make sure that all members have their voice and that everything works in a fluid and normal manner. Nothing is perfect of course, but we try our best.
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Zunkwentania
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Founded: Apr 06, 2014
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Postby Zunkwentania » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:06 pm

Valaran wrote:
Zunkwentania wrote:Yeah, but Lib was also awesome. Anyway, this signals corruption in the administration, and we need a reason. If Brat would let me, perhaps I could start a petition?



Don't think it was corruption :)
And I wouldn't defend lib if he wasn't awesome :p

Yes, but firing with the apparent reason of one squabble over a bill is corruption. I'll give EN 24 hours until I start a petition for a vote of non confidence.

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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:07 pm

Bratislav wrote:Guys, well what can I say, this is how this system of democracy works. You elect Elemental North, he forms a cabinet, and with that he has the power to both appoint and fire people in his cabinet. If you don't agree with EN's decisions, then you will either not vote for him in the next election or if a large amount of people are against his leadership, you can have a vote of no-confidence. As you see, all democratic measures are in place to make sure that all members have their voice and that everything works in a fluid and normal manner. Nothing is perfect of course, but we try our best.



Yeah, this^

I was just expressing disagreement on this particular decision from the sidelines. If I was still in the IFC, I would vote for EN.
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:07 pm

Zunkwentania wrote:
Valaran wrote:

Don't think it was corruption :)
And I wouldn't defend lib if he wasn't awesome :p

Yes, but firing with the apparent reason of one squabble over a bill is corruption. I'll give EN 24 hours until I start a petition for a vote of non confidence.



No one said that was the reason for the firing....
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Zunkwentania
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Founded: Apr 06, 2014
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Postby Zunkwentania » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:08 pm

Valaran wrote:
Zunkwentania wrote:Yes, but firing with the apparent reason of one squabble over a bill is corruption. I'll give EN 24 hours until I start a petition for a vote of non confidence.



No one said that was the reason for the firing....

Exactly, but it is heavily implied, which is why I will wait 24 hours for a reason before I start the petition.

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Furry Alairia and Algeria
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:09 pm

Valaran wrote:
Zunkwentania wrote:Yes, but firing with the apparent reason of one squabble over a bill is corruption. I'll give EN 24 hours until I start a petition for a vote of non confidence.



No one said that was the reason for the firing....

Then say the reason so I can get the grasp on it :p
and you will pay attention to this.
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Cyllea
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Founded: Nov 23, 2013
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Postby Cyllea » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:09 pm

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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:10 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Valaran wrote:

No one said that was the reason for the firing....

Then say the reason so I can get the grasp on it :p
and you will pay attention to this.



Pay attention to what? Also why would prop 40 affect me rejoining?

Zunkwentania wrote:Exactly, but it is heavily implied, which is why I will wait 24 hours for a reason before I start the petition.


EN did say not to make assumptions, and that it wasn't policy based.
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Zunkwentania
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Founded: Apr 06, 2014
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Postby Zunkwentania » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:14 pm

Valaran wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Then say the reason so I can get the grasp on it :p
and you will pay attention to this.



Pay attention to what? Also why would prop 40 affect me rejoining?

Zunkwentania wrote:Exactly, but it is heavily implied, which is why I will wait 24 hours for a reason before I start the petition.


EN did say not to make assumptions, and that it wasn't policy based.

If he wishes assumptions not to be made, then he should provide a reason. Firing with no reason is highly suspicious.

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Furry Alairia and Algeria
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Founded: Apr 05, 2014
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:15 pm

Valaran wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Then say the reason so I can get the grasp on it :p
and you will pay attention to this.



Pay attention to what? Also why would prop 40 affect me rejoining?

Yay, a response.
You expressed disgust or what you said, "This is why I left". Unless you're a imposter.
Zunkwentania wrote:
Valaran wrote:

Pay attention to what? Also why would prop 40 affect me rejoining?



EN did say not to make assumptions, and that it wasn't policy based.

If he wishes assumptions not to be made, then he should provide a reason. Firing with no reason is highly suspicious.

*Pessimistic person appears*
In memory of Dyakovo - may he never be forgotten - Дьяковожс ученик


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The New Lowlands
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Founded: Jun 26, 2011
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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:17 pm

*making assumptions intensifies*

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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:18 pm

Zunkwentania wrote:If he wishes assumptions not to be made, then he should provide a reason. Firing with no reason is highly suspicious.

Then TG him.

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Valaran wrote:

Pay attention to what? Also why would prop 40 affect me rejoining?

Yay, a response.
You expressed disgust or what you said, "This is why I left". Unless you're a imposter.


I expressed disagreement with it. But I don't see how that issue is relevant.
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Zunkwentania
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Founded: Apr 06, 2014
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Postby Zunkwentania » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:20 pm

Valaran wrote:
Zunkwentania wrote:If he wishes assumptions not to be made, then he should provide a reason. Firing with no reason is highly suspicious.

Then TG him.

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Yay, a response.
You expressed disgust or what you said, "This is why I left". Unless you're a imposter.


I expressed disagreement with it. But I don't see how that issue is relevant.

I did, and he said the same thing.

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Mizrad
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Founded: Jan 02, 2013
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Postby Mizrad » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:31 pm

So what's the deal with the Venerable Divide thread? Should I get involved with that?
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Flardania
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Founded: Nov 13, 2012
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Postby Flardania » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:47 pm

I'm just watching and waiting in the back....maybe brooding
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Roski
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Founded: Nov 18, 2013
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Postby Roski » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:55 pm

*watches an giggles*

The prophecy is unfolding, mein children. Falling! FALLING!!
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

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Libraria and Ausitoria
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Founded: May 30, 2011
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:57 pm

Elemental North wrote:[...]

With respect, my conduct of foreign policy has been a great deal more coherent than the drama you seem to make running this alliance.
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Disclaimer: Notwithstanding any mention of their nations, Ausitoria and its canon does not exist nor impact the canon of many IFC & SACTO & closed-region nations; and it is harassment to presume it does. However in accordance with my open-door policy the converse does not apply: they still impact Ausitoria's canon.
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Furry Alairia and Algeria
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:00 pm

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:
Elemental North wrote:[...]

With respect, my conduct of foreign policy has been a great deal more coherent than the drama you seem to make running this alliance.

I believe the drama has been self-evident throughout the thread.
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Roski
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Founded: Nov 18, 2013
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Postby Roski » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:00 pm

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:
Elemental North wrote:[...]

With respect, my conduct of foreign policy has been a great deal more coherent than the drama you seem to make running this alliance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZHvd0ks7Es

That being said, the election of Elemental North has run the IFC downwind, though not all of it can be blamed on Elemental North.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Libraria and Ausitoria
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Founded: May 30, 2011
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:03 pm

Roski wrote:That being said, the election of Elemental North has run the IFC downwind, though not all of it can be blamed on Elemental North.

While that may be right, I think most of it has. If anybody else is interested in a motion of no-confidence; then I shall propose one; if we can agree on another candidate.
The Aestorian Commonwealth - Pax Prosperitas - Gloria in Maere - (Factbook)

Disclaimer: Notwithstanding any mention of their nations, Ausitoria and its canon does not exist nor impact the canon of many IFC & SACTO & closed-region nations; and it is harassment to presume it does. However in accordance with my open-door policy the converse does not apply: they still impact Ausitoria's canon.
○ Commonwealth Capital (Bank) ○ ○ Commonwealth Connect (Bank Treaty) ○ ○ SeaScape (Shipping & Energy) ○
(██████████████████████████████║║◙█[Θ]█]◙◙◙◙◙[█]

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Furry Alairia and Algeria
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:04 pm

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:
Roski wrote:That being said, the election of Elemental North has run the IFC downwind, though not all of it can be blamed on Elemental North.

While that may be right, I think most of it has. If anybody else is interested in a motion of no-confidence; then I shall propose one; if we can agree on another candidate.

Zunkwentania mentioned petitioning for one, and I could help :p
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