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Roski
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Postby Roski » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:18 pm

Nam's forces, his paratroopers, are Special forces, no?


If not, is anyone else got Special Operations Forces?
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:20 pm

I'll tlak in sec, a bit busy atm :blush:
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Flardania
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Postby Flardania » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:26 pm

Roski wrote:Nam's forces, his paratroopers, are Special forces, no?


If not, is anyone else got Special Operations Forces?

Yes, my Shadow Valkyrie Triangulum Platoon led by Capt. Asada and Capt. Ikusaba
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Roski
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Postby Roski » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:42 pm

Flardania wrote:
Roski wrote:Nam's forces, his paratroopers, are Special forces, no?


If not, is anyone else got Special Operations Forces?

Yes, my Shadow Valkyrie Triangulum Platoon led by Capt. Asada and Capt. Ikusaba


So I want to launch a major attack, via Paradrop forces, into the Rebel capital.

This is a diversion, for my spec ops to come in and take the Rebel leader, if he's captured, he's handed over to the Baggnaggians, if he puts up a fight, he dies.

I would like help in BOTH stages, if possible.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Zunkwentania
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Postby Zunkwentania » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:51 pm

We do have SixOp, our special ops team. We can fly them over.

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:51 pm

Zunkwentania wrote:We do have SixOp, our special ops team. We can fly them over.


Are you familiar with HALO?

Not the game, the technique.
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I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:52 pm

Roski wrote:
Zunkwentania wrote:We do have SixOp, our special ops team. We can fly them over.


Are you familiar with HALO?

Not the game, the technique.



a HALO drop? yeah.


I also have special forces.This will be really really risk though (I'll explain why later). Think Black Hawk Down.
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I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Zunkwentania
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Postby Zunkwentania » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:56 pm

And isn't that illegal? Killing the rebel leader?

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:56 pm

Valaran wrote:
Roski wrote:
Are you familiar with HALO?

Not the game, the technique.



a HALO drop? yeah.


I also have special forces.This will be really really risk though (I'll explain why later). Think Black Hawk Down.


Not necessarily. Black Hawk Down was a series of major attacks, all that failed miserably.

The attack would be with the intent of taking the city, (as that would be a serious goal), and we HALO drop Spec Ops in. SAMs are very limited in range, it would not be difficult to go above the SAM
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:57 pm

Zunkwentania wrote:And isn't that illegal? Killing the rebel leader?


Not if he fires at us.

Its self defence at that point.

Its Capture/Kill
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Zunkwentania
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Postby Zunkwentania » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:57 pm

Roski wrote:
Zunkwentania wrote:We do have SixOp, our special ops team. We can fly them over.


Are you familiar with HALO?

Not the game, the technique.

Now I am!

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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:58 pm

Roski wrote:
Valaran wrote:

a HALO drop? yeah.


I also have special forces.This will be really really risk though (I'll explain why later). Think Black Hawk Down.


Not necessarily. Black Hawk Down was a series of major attacks, all that failed miserably.

The attack would be with the intent of taking the city, (as that would be a serious goal), and we HALO drop Spec Ops in. SAMs are very limited in range, it would not be difficult to go above the SAM



Its more the general scenario rather than anything specific about the mission. Halo drop mitigates much of the SAM element, buts it more the fact we will be fighting in urban warfare against literal hordes of enemies.

Perhaps Market Garden is a better example as our guys will be without support there...
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:00 pm

Valaran wrote:
Roski wrote:
Not necessarily. Black Hawk Down was a series of major attacks, all that failed miserably.

The attack would be with the intent of taking the city, (as that would be a serious goal), and we HALO drop Spec Ops in. SAMs are very limited in range, it would not be difficult to go above the SAM



Its more the general scenario rather than anything specific about the mission. Halo drop mitigates much of the SAM element, buts it more the fact we will be fighting in urban warfare against literal hordes of enemies.

Perhaps Market Garden is a better example as our guys will be without support there...


The mass attack would be the way to get the enemies elsewhere.

I want a major attack to distract them (as they go to go fight them), and the Spec Ops would enter in stealthily.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:01 pm

Roski wrote:
Zunkwentania wrote:And isn't that illegal? Killing the rebel leader?


Not if he fires at us.

Its self defence at that point.

Its Capture/Kill



oh and for the record, I'm fine with killing the leader.
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:01 pm

Valaran wrote:
Roski wrote:
Not if he fires at us.

Its self defence at that point.

Its Capture/Kill



oh and for the record, I'm fine with killing the leader.


Baggnaggia won't be.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:01 pm

Roski wrote:
Valaran wrote:

oh and for the record, I'm fine with killing the leader.


Baggnaggia won't be.



sucks to be him then :p


Capture is cool as well. But I don't mind either way.

(I have the odd other issue with the plan though)
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I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Flardania
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Postby Flardania » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:03 pm

Valaran wrote:
Roski wrote:
Not necessarily. Black Hawk Down was a series of major attacks, all that failed miserably.

The attack would be with the intent of taking the city, (as that would be a serious goal), and we HALO drop Spec Ops in. SAMs are very limited in range, it would not be difficult to go above the SAM



Its more the general scenario rather than anything specific about the mission. Halo drop mitigates much of the SAM element, buts it more the fact we will be fighting in urban warfare against literal hordes of enemies.

Perhaps Market Garden is a better example as our guys will be without support there...

Hmm this is a dilemma for me as Capt. Ikusaba is much more suited for the role she literally participated in a dozen of these difficult missions. I am going to need to evac her in exchange for Capt. Asada .
A Proud FMR. Foreign Minister of the INTERNATIONAL FREEDOM COALITION!
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I am a MT Japanese/Korean nation inhabited by Human, Anime(They're also Human), and Secret FanT beings (Northern Wilderness)that perform acts based on MT/PMT Reality

Internationally known as Flardania in English, known domestically as Kirishima in Japanese & French, and domestically as Angaeseom in Korean

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:04 pm

Valaran wrote:
Roski wrote:
Baggnaggia won't be.



sucks to be him then :p


(I have the odd other issue with the plan though)


Remember, a major attack will incorporate a few of my XR-72s.


They haven't figured out how to kill them. They will be wanting to stop them from laying waste to the City....
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:07 pm

Roski wrote:
Valaran wrote:

sucks to be him then :p


(I have the odd other issue with the plan though)


Remember, a major attack will incorporate a few of my XR-72s.


They haven't figured out how to kill them. They will be wanting to stop them from laying waste to the City....




Oh yeah, our air support will be top notch (I don't doubt your planes' awesomeness at all :p )

Its more, I don't think the leader is really that important at all... they will likely just get another one. And to me a symbolic victory won't be worth the lives this will cost.

And it will really difficult to take the city without armor/heavier forces, etc

let alone hold it.

And at the same time this distracts form our general mission of liberating the nation as a whole... so I'm unsure about this :unsure:
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I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Zunkwentania
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Postby Zunkwentania » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:09 pm

Valaran wrote:
Roski wrote:
Remember, a major attack will incorporate a few of my XR-72s.


They haven't figured out how to kill them. They will be wanting to stop them from laying waste to the City....


Exactly. And we'll be losing rapport with the civillians, too.

Oh yeah, our air support will be top notch (I don't doubt your planes' awesomeness at all :p )

Its more, I don't think the leader is really that important at all... they will likely just get another one. And to me a symbolic victory won't be worth the lives this will cost.

And it will really difficult to take the city without armor/heavier forces, etc

let alone hold it.

And at the same time this distracts form our general mission of liberating the nation as a whole... so I'm unsure about this :unsure:
Exactly. And we'll be losing rapport with the civillians, too.
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Roski
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Postby Roski » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:09 pm

Valaran wrote:
Roski wrote:
Remember, a major attack will incorporate a few of my XR-72s.


They haven't figured out how to kill them. They will be wanting to stop them from laying waste to the City....




Oh yeah, our air support will be top notch (I don't doubt your planes' awesomeness at all :p )

Its more, I don't think the leader is really that important at all... they will likely just get another one. And to me a symbolic victory won't be worth the lives this will cost.

And it will really difficult to take the city without armor/heavier forces, etc

let alone hold it.

And at the same time this distracts form our general mission of liberating the nation as a whole... so I'm unsure about this :unsure:


The XR 72 isn't a plane.

Its a massive freaking robot with lots of guns :P

ITs extremely HEAVY armour.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:14 pm

Here

As for its strength, it can't really absorb a 58 megaton nuclear bomb :P (I did that to make it sound more deadly :P)

A Tsar Bomba will literally disinigrate the entire machine.

The best bet for an MT nation is a nuclear weapon aimed at the face of the robot, or slamming a plane at Mach 1 or 2 into it, causing it to fall over, effectively limiting its combat skills.

It can really only take up to a 1-2 Megaton bomb before it take serious damage.

(Lasers don't play into it because MT nations ain't got lasers)
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Republic of Vietnam
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Postby Republic of Vietnam » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:21 pm

Roski wrote:Nam's forces, his paratroopers, are Special forces, no?


If not, is anyone else got Special Operations Forces?

Yes.
They are.

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:22 pm

Republic of Vietnam wrote:
Roski wrote:Nam's forces, his paratroopers, are Special forces, no?


If not, is anyone else got Special Operations Forces?

Yes.
They are.


oke. I proposed a plan, can you tell me how you feel about it?
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Republic of Vietnam
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Postby Republic of Vietnam » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:22 pm

Roski wrote:
Republic of Vietnam wrote:Yes.
They are.


oke. I proposed a plan, can you tell me how you feel about it?

What is the plan?

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