"Flardania also approves of this motion."
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by Flardania » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:02 am
by Liberated Counties » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:09 am
by Valaran » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:31 am
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Liberated Counties » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:33 am
Valaran wrote:Liberated Counties wrote:
Your latin is correct. I chose that phrase because it represents our freedom to make our own decisions, instead of simply doing as one is told.
It's a nice phrase, I like it quite a lot.
Perhaps something about freedom being the guiding lux, though your phrase is more apt and generally better.
by Bratislav » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:57 am
by Bratislav » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:39 pm
by Vanitan » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:44 pm
Bratislav wrote:Vanitan wrote:
S...So I just made my flags...for nothing *sad violin plays*
I mean it was good to see the possibility of a combined logo. Often times people create many logos then decide on just one. But I do think the new alliance should have a graphics department that can make cool graphics, wallpapers, sigs, etc.
by Globus » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:55 pm
by Bratislav » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:09 pm
Globus wrote:I have created some possible logos, if we are interested in an entirely new logo. Check them out, and feedback is appreciated.
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Also, a few name ideas if we are looking for a new name.
- International Freedom Coalition
- International Peace Coalition
- Coalition of Freedom
- Freedom Coalition
by Muzztopia » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:15 pm
Globus wrote:I have created some possible logos, if we are interested in an entirely new logo. Check them out, and feedback is appreciated.
(Image)
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Also, a few name ideas if we are looking for a new name.
- International Freedom Coalition
- International Peace Coalition
- Coalition of Freedom
- Freedom Coalition
by Vanitan » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:19 pm
Muzztopia wrote:Globus wrote:I have created some possible logos, if we are interested in an entirely new logo. Check them out, and feedback is appreciated.
(Image)
(Image)
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Also, a few name ideas if we are looking for a new name.
- International Freedom Coalition
- International Peace Coalition
- Coalition of Freedom
- Freedom Coalition
I have to admit I really love that first logo, it just looks so good
by Gibberan » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:29 pm
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.
by Bratislav » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:02 pm
by Globus » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:21 pm
by Gibberan » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:17 pm
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.
by Bratislav » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:27 pm
by Rentalla » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:29 pm
Bratislav wrote:I guess I'm the only one that favors the WC or IFA logo
Though guys, we should finalize the more crucial points in the merger, For example, the admittance policy. WC uses a different admittance policy than IFA because they look at the country's NS freedom ranking. While IFA doesn't and looks more to ensure that the incoming member is a functioning democracy that fits our ideals.
by Gibberan » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:35 pm
Rentalla wrote:Bratislav wrote:I guess I'm the only one that favors the WC or IFA logo
Though guys, we should finalize the more crucial points in the merger, For example, the admittance policy. WC uses a different admittance policy than IFA because they look at the country's NS freedom ranking. While IFA doesn't and looks more to ensure that the incoming member is a functioning democracy that fits our ideals.
Perhaps we could use both sets of criteria. Although it would seem that some members of the WC are opposed to the IFA's admittance policy.
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.
by Flardania » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:36 pm
Rentalla wrote:Bratislav wrote:I guess I'm the only one that favors the WC or IFA logo
Though guys, we should finalize the more crucial points in the merger, For example, the admittance policy. WC uses a different admittance policy than IFA because they look at the country's NS freedom ranking. While IFA doesn't and looks more to ensure that the incoming member is a functioning democracy that fits our ideals.
Perhaps we could use both sets of criteria. Although it would seem that some members of the WC are opposed to the IFA's admittance policy.
by Bratislav » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:42 pm
Gibberan wrote:Rentalla wrote:
Perhaps we could use both sets of criteria. Although it would seem that some members of the WC are opposed to the IFA's admittance policy.
I'm honestly all right with either policy, though it depends on whether the alliance will associate with gameplay or be a roleplay-only group.
Flardania wrote:Rentalla wrote:
Perhaps we could use both sets of criteria. Although it would seem that some members of the WC are opposed to the IFA's admittance policy.
Yea I don't think my Constitutional Autocracy would meet IFA standards. In other news I am in Favor of the name IFC (International Freedom Coalition).
by Gibberan » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:52 pm
Bratislav wrote:Gibberan wrote:I'm honestly all right with either policy, though it depends on whether the alliance will associate with gameplay or be a roleplay-only group.
The alliance will be like IFA and WC was, there is gameplay and usually there are alliance related RPs. I think the IFA admittance policy may be a bit more flexible in some regards, just because the NS legislation are sometimes very weird, and not everyone's NS country ranking reflects their actual RP policies. (mine does though ) Obviously though a country should justify why they are labelled as a psychotic dictatorship when they portray themselves as very democratic.
How would they show that? Would it be a series of rights questions, similar to those in the WC application?Bratislav wrote:Flardania wrote:Yea I don't think my Constitutional Autocracy would meet IFA standards. In other news I am in Favor of the name IFC (International Freedom Coalition).
Not necessarily. Basically we are going to admit any moderate country that can show that they have a generally democratic structure of governance as opposed to authoritarian, communist, extremist, etc. So it's a rather wide criteria.
I think the International Freedom Coalition sounds good. It combines our two alliances nicely.
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.
by Bratislav » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:56 pm
Gibberan wrote:Bratislav wrote:
The alliance will be like IFA and WC was, there is gameplay and usually there are alliance related RPs. I think the IFA admittance policy may be a bit more flexible in some regards, just because the NS legislation are sometimes very weird, and not everyone's NS country ranking reflects their actual RP policies. (mine does though ) Obviously though a country should justify why they are labelled as a psychotic dictatorship when they portray themselves as very democratic.
I actually had no idea the IFA was ever gameplay-oriented. The WC used to be but stopped when we did away with the region.How would they show that? Would it be a series of rights questions, similar to those in the WC application?Bratislav wrote:
Not necessarily. Basically we are going to admit any moderate country that can show that they have a generally democratic structure of governance as opposed to authoritarian, communist, extremist, etc. So it's a rather wide criteria.
I think the International Freedom Coalition sounds good. It combines our two alliances nicely.
Basics:
Formal Nation Name:
Head of State:
Head of Government:
Military Size: (_/10)
Nuclear Arsenal (if any):
Goals (optional):
Capital city:
National Creation and Brief History of your nation:
Language:
Demonym:
Does your nation have...
Freedom of speech
Freedom of conscience
Freedom of assembly
Freedom of religion
Freedom of movement
The right to a fair trial
Universal adult suffrage
Racial discrimination
Religious discrimination
Gender discrimination
LGBT discrimination
Laws to prevent racial/religious/gender/LGBT discrimination
Slavery
Retroactive laws (i.e. punishing someone for doing an action in the past when it was legal at the time)
Political Freedoms ranking (found on your homepage, and must be average or higher):
Civil Rights ranking (also on your homepage, and also must be average or higher):
Name of Ambassador to the Provisional Council:
Do you hereby agree to abide by the terms and conditions set forth by the Western Coalition Charter?
Name of Military:
Branches of Military:
Does your nation have an IIwiki page as of yet?
RP example:
by Bratislav » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:58 pm
by Gibberan » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:04 pm
SecondedBratislav wrote:How about we just use the WC app, take out these questions:
Retroactive laws (i.e. punishing someone for doing an action in the past when it was legal at the time)
Political Freedoms ranking (found on your homepage, and must be average or higher):
Civil Rights ranking (also on your homepage, and also must be average or higher):
and add these:
What other military alliances are you a part of:
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right):
Is your Government by the people (exercised either directly or through elected representatives)?
Economic System:
Reason for Joining:
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.
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