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The Diasporia
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Postby The Diasporia » Thu May 22, 2014 5:15 pm

The United Motherland wrote:
The Diasporia wrote:It feels as if the thread is turning into an echo chamber...

What do you mean?


Other than Boji posting the occasional link to RP's, or an occasional nation asking to join, nothing seems to be happening in the thread.
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The United Motherland
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Postby The United Motherland » Thu May 22, 2014 5:16 pm

The Diasporia wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:What do you mean?


Other than Boji posting the occasional link to RP's, or an occasional nation asking to join, nothing seems to be happening in the thread.

Well, that's mainly because:

1. Were working on the Union still right now.

2. Some of us are just inactive due to finals.

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The Diasporia
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Postby The Diasporia » Thu May 22, 2014 5:26 pm

The United Motherland wrote:
The Diasporia wrote:
Other than Boji posting the occasional link to RP's, or an occasional nation asking to join, nothing seems to be happening in the thread.

Well, that's mainly because:

1. Were working on the Union still right now.

2. Some of us are just inactive due to finals.


Fair enough.
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The United Motherland
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Postby The United Motherland » Thu May 22, 2014 6:22 pm

Men, our calling is time!

Socialist liars are cumming towards us!

They are marching, with strength - in ignorance!

Let us show them what the UL can make!

http://www.nationstates.net/region=eura ... list_union

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Postby Vedria » Thu May 22, 2014 6:52 pm

The United Motherland wrote:Men, our calling is time!

Socialist liars are cumming towards us!

They are marching, with strength - in ignorance!

Let us show them what the UL can make!

http://www.nationstates.net/region=eura ... list_union


1. Cumming. Heh.
2. Why should we enter a war with our fellow socialist? What have they done against our cause?
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Postby The United Motherland » Thu May 22, 2014 6:54 pm

Vedria wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:Men, our calling is time!

Socialist liars are comming towards us!

They are marching, with strength - in ignorance!

Let us show them what the UL can make!

http://www.nationstates.net/region=eura ... list_union


1. Cumming. Heh.
2. Why should we enter a war with our fellow socialist? What have they done against our cause?

Threatened.

They have declared agressive actions against fellow members of our society - they do not seek the Unity of leftists as we do.

I recommend for everyone to get some studying on Naval warfare tactics and ground warfare tactics, just in case we get into a war.

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Postby The Diasporia » Thu May 22, 2014 6:58 pm

Vedria wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:Men, our calling is time!

Socialist liars are cumming towards us!

They are marching, with strength - in ignorance!

Let us show them what the UL can make!

http://www.nationstates.net/region=eura ... list_union


1. Cumming. Heh.
2. Why should we enter a war with our fellow socialist? What have they done against our cause?


1. Lies that are cumming; the worst kind of lies! :o

2. It doesn't seem that there is any reason to enter into any hostilities over what seems to be nothing more that a spat on the regional message board, not a shadow of a casus belli.
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Vedria
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Postby Vedria » Thu May 22, 2014 7:09 pm

The United Motherland wrote:
Vedria wrote:
1. Cumming. Heh.
2. Why should we enter a war with our fellow socialist? What have they done against our cause?

Threatened.

They have declared agressive actions against fellow members of our society - they do not seek the Unity of leftists as we do.

I recommend for everyone to get some studying on Naval warfare tactics and ground warfare tactics, just in case we get into a war.


Of course, but the question is, or should I say, are,

Who will strike first?

And

Who was threatened?
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Don't give up the gudfuk ship that is Atlas
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The United Motherland
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Postby The United Motherland » Thu May 22, 2014 7:10 pm

Vedria wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:Threatened.

They have declared agressive actions against fellow members of our society - they do not seek the Unity of leftists as we do.

I recommend for everyone to get some studying on Naval warfare tactics and ground warfare tactics, just in case we get into a war.


Of course, but the question is, or should I say, are,

Who will strike first?

And

Who was threatened?

1. If they strike first, we will join in.

2. Our head of propaganda and some friends of his. He is very important - and it would be terrible to loose him.

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Postby Vedria » Thu May 22, 2014 7:28 pm

The United Motherland wrote:
Vedria wrote:
Of course, but the question is, or should I say, are,

Who will strike first?

And

Who was threatened?

1. If they strike first, we will join in.

2. Our head of propaganda and some friends of his. He is very important - and it would be terrible to loose him.


Very well then. I suppose you have been gathering Axis support, no?
"Science is the answer"
The Federal Republic of Vedria
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
Don't give up the gudfuk ship that is Atlas
The Resident Atlasian Socialist Republic
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is fed up with his nation's crappy
government. Likes science, socialism,
PC gaming, military stuff and science fiction
Economic Left/Right: -7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90

I'm a Socialist Meritocrat

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Postby The United Motherland » Thu May 22, 2014 7:34 pm

Vedria wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:1. If they strike first, we will join in.

2. Our head of propaganda and some friends of his. He is very important - and it would be terrible to loose him.


Very well then. I suppose you have been gathering Axis support, no?

Yes. This will also be healthy for diplomatic ties.

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Republic of Vietnam
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Postby Republic of Vietnam » Thu May 22, 2014 7:39 pm

The United Motherland wrote:
Vedria wrote:
Very well then. I suppose you have been gathering Axis support, no?

Yes. This will also be healthy for diplomatic ties.

TUM, I think you might want to hop over and give the Axis a clear explanation.

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Postby Vedria » Thu May 22, 2014 7:42 pm

The United Motherland wrote:
Vedria wrote:
Very well then. I suppose you have been gathering Axis support, no?

Yes. This will also be healthy for diplomatic ties.


This is quite odd.

We're using our enemy to take out a fellow socialist who could be a possible ally, given that they cool down.
"Science is the answer"
The Federal Republic of Vedria
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
Don't give up the gudfuk ship that is Atlas
The Resident Atlasian Socialist Republic
16 year old Filipino dude .
is fed up with his nation's crappy
government. Likes science, socialism,
PC gaming, military stuff and science fiction
Economic Left/Right: -7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90

I'm a Socialist Meritocrat

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Postby The United Motherland » Thu May 22, 2014 7:48 pm

Vedria wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:Yes. This will also be healthy for diplomatic ties.


This is quite odd.

We're using our enemy to take out a fellow socialist who could be a possible ally, given that they cool down.

Axis strength > Them. Its a better move for us.

I may be able to re-create diplomatic ties later, but now is not the time.

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Postby Vedria » Thu May 22, 2014 7:51 pm

The United Motherland wrote:
Vedria wrote:
This is quite odd.

We're using our enemy to take out a fellow socialist who could be a possible ally, given that they cool down.

Axis strength > Them. Its a better move for us.

I may be able to re-create diplomatic ties later, but now is not the time.


So we practically sell out a fellow socialist in exchange for favor with an alliance that, at its core, hates socialism.

I feel as if I cannot condone this.
"Science is the answer"
The Federal Republic of Vedria
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
Don't give up the gudfuk ship that is Atlas
The Resident Atlasian Socialist Republic
16 year old Filipino dude .
is fed up with his nation's crappy
government. Likes science, socialism,
PC gaming, military stuff and science fiction
Economic Left/Right: -7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90

I'm a Socialist Meritocrat

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Postby The United Motherland » Thu May 22, 2014 7:54 pm

Vedria wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:Axis strength > Them. Its a better move for us.

I may be able to re-create diplomatic ties later, but now is not the time.


So we practically sell out a fellow socialist in exchange for favor with an alliance that, at its core, hates socialism.

I feel as if I cannot condone this.

Verdia, your missing the point - they attacked one of our nations. You realize that is against our rules, right?

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Postby Bojikami » Thu May 22, 2014 7:55 pm

Vedria wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:Axis strength > Them. Its a better move for us.

I may be able to re-create diplomatic ties later, but now is not the time.


So we practically sell out a fellow socialist in exchange for favor with an alliance that, at its core, hates socialism.

I feel as if I cannot condone this.

Ved, according to what I have seen, one of our members has been attacked.
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Postby Vedria » Thu May 22, 2014 8:02 pm

The United Motherland wrote:
Vedria wrote:
So we practically sell out a fellow socialist in exchange for favor with an alliance that, at its core, hates socialism.

I feel as if I cannot condone this.

Verdia, your missing the point - they attacked one of our nations. You realize that is against our rules, right?


Was it physical, as in bullets and bombs, or merely verbal?

My point is, we dont have to call in an Azis hitsquad just because they said some bad things. But, given that they went further than saying bad things..... Well, I say we go ahead with what UM is planning.
"Science is the answer"
The Federal Republic of Vedria
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
Don't give up the gudfuk ship that is Atlas
The Resident Atlasian Socialist Republic
16 year old Filipino dude .
is fed up with his nation's crappy
government. Likes science, socialism,
PC gaming, military stuff and science fiction
Economic Left/Right: -7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90

I'm a Socialist Meritocrat

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Postby The United Motherland » Thu May 22, 2014 8:03 pm

Vedria wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:Verdia, your missing the point - they attacked one of our nations. You realize that is against our rules, right?


Was it physical, as in bullets and bombs, or merely verbal?

My point is, we dont have to call in an Azis hitsquad just because they said some bad things. But, given that they went further than saying bad things..... Well, I say we go ahead with what UM is planning.

I am glad you agree.

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Postby Vedria » Thu May 22, 2014 8:07 pm

The United Motherland wrote:
Vedria wrote:
Was it physical, as in bullets and bombs, or merely verbal?

My point is, we dont have to call in an Azis hitsquad just because they said some bad things. But, given that they went further than saying bad things..... Well, I say we go ahead with what UM is planning.

I am glad you agree.


My question still stands: Was verbal attacks, such as insults or threats, or physical attacks, like bullets and bombs.
"Science is the answer"
The Federal Republic of Vedria
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
Don't give up the gudfuk ship that is Atlas
The Resident Atlasian Socialist Republic
16 year old Filipino dude .
is fed up with his nation's crappy
government. Likes science, socialism,
PC gaming, military stuff and science fiction
Economic Left/Right: -7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90

I'm a Socialist Meritocrat

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Postby The United Motherland » Thu May 22, 2014 8:08 pm

Vedria wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:I am glad you agree.


My question still stands: Was verbal attacks, such as insults or threats, or physical attacks, like bullets and bombs.

In a way - both. They had already been deploying a few troops to the border, and a lot of verbal attacks.

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Postby Vedria » Thu May 22, 2014 8:11 pm

The United Motherland wrote:
Vedria wrote:
My question still stands: Was verbal attacks, such as insults or threats, or physical attacks, like bullets and bombs.

In a way - both. They had already been deploying a few troops to the border, and a lot of verbal attacks.


Well, shit, we gotta gear up!

But, why do we need to call the Axis? It shows weakness, in my opinion.
"Science is the answer"
The Federal Republic of Vedria
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
Don't give up the gudfuk ship that is Atlas
The Resident Atlasian Socialist Republic
16 year old Filipino dude .
is fed up with his nation's crappy
government. Likes science, socialism,
PC gaming, military stuff and science fiction
Economic Left/Right: -7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90

I'm a Socialist Meritocrat

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Postby Bojikami » Thu May 22, 2014 8:13 pm

Vedria wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:In a way - both. They had already been deploying a few troops to the border, and a lot of verbal attacks.


Well, shit, we gotta gear up!

But, why do we need to call the Axis? It shows weakness, in my opinion.

I think TUM is trying to de-escalate things.
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Postby The United Motherland » Thu May 22, 2014 8:15 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Vedria wrote:
Well, shit, we gotta gear up!

But, why do we need to call the Axis? It shows weakness, in my opinion.

I think TUM is trying to de-escalate things.

^

Yeah, we could EASILY take them on ourselves, but were trying to cool down the axis tensions at the same time.

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Postby Sabah » Thu May 22, 2014 8:16 pm

Vedria wrote:But, why do we need to call the Axis? It shows weakness, in my opinion.
Not to mention it would end up being used as a propaganda material to us against communist.

Imagine these head lines; United Left Betrayed Communism By Working With Capitalist to Attack Fellow Socialist!

or

Axis Forces Coming In To Rescue United Left!

You guys aren't that desperate. Involving us would only end up discrediting UL.

But this thing, is interesting but strange in the same time. We will continue to observe, as always.
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