The United Left (OOC/SIGNUPS/2.0)

[Aeyariss]

Hmm, if its as a vassal, I can place them under Aeyariss protection.

They would be a vassal of the Convist Union.

Which I am an observer level member too.

[Asigna]

Vasalize it? It would depend on the incompetence of the Malovinian government. If they are willing to do so, let them, just so they know, it means bowing down to another nation for their safety.

What would happen to the capitalists? The acceptability of the Vasalization would depend on the fate of those who seek self determination.

[Ardoki]

They would be a vassal of the Convist Union.

Which I am an observer level member too.

But that does not put them under your protection alone.

[Valaran]

uhhh, what I was trying to kinda say is that it wouldn't really work - mass war
I mean I get where you are coming from, but that ain't no comprise that the other side can accept, while the splitting up is better overall

The splitting would cause more trouble in the long run.

it might, but this mass war looks bad enough that I am willing to take the risk if you see where I am coming form

Like splitting it up is a potential problem but this war is a real problem and will be extremely bloody

[Ardoki]

Vasalize it? It would depend on the incompetence of the Malovinian government. If they are willing to do so, let them, just so they know, it means bowing down to another nation for their safety.

What would happen to the capitalists? The acceptability of the Vasalization would depend on the fate of those who seek self determination.

The majority of the people do not support the capitalists.

[Ardoki]

The splitting would cause more trouble in the long run.

it might, but this mass war looks bad enough that I am willing to take the risk if you see where I am coming form

Like splitting it up is a potential problem but this war is a real problem and will be extremely bloody

Splitting the country up will only delay war, a war which could be even more bloody.

[Valaran]

it might, but this mass war looks bad enough that I am willing to take the risk if you see where I am coming form

Like splitting it up is a potential problem but this war is a real problem and will be extremely bloody

Splitting the country up will only delay war, a war which could be even more bloody.

it might be stable... you don't know while we know that this war will be bloody

I am willing to take that risk as to me a possibility is better than definite war

also some people evidently support the capitalists as well

[Aeyariss]

Which will make them like Palestine-Israel, North-South Korea.

Division is not a good idea.

[Ardoki]

The splitting would cause more trouble in the long run.

it might, but this mass war looks bad enough that I am willing to take the risk if you see where I am coming form

Like splitting it up is a potential problem but this war is a real problem and will be extremely bloody

A question, if a group of [INSERT GROUP] decided to take half of your nation as an independent state, would you let them?

[Ardoki]

Which will make them like Palestine-Israel, North-South Korea.

Division is not a good idea.

I agree with you here comrade.

[Bojikami]

So, what are we discussing?

[Ardoki]

Splitting the country up will only delay war, a war which could be even more bloody.

it might be stable... you don't know while we know that this war will be bloody

I am willing to take that risk as to me a possibility is better than definite war

also some people evidently support the capitalists as well

I don't think that it would be stable. However we have to ask Malivonia if he even wants to split his nation in two.

[Ardoki]

So, what are we discussing?

Surrender to the capitalists.

[Asigna]

it might, but this mass war looks bad enough that I am willing to take the risk if you see where I am coming form

Like splitting it up is a potential problem but this war is a real problem and will be extremely bloody

Splitting the country up will only delay war, a war which could be even more bloody.[/quote]

Considering the people of Malovinia are fools to keep on trusting their corrupt government and that capitalists are only part of the alienated minority, and because the right answer comes with a solution to help the people of Malovinia out of their situation which is only achievable by helping the rebels, and doing so would only prolong war and even set off greater conflict, this is harder than i thought.

For now i can't make an immediate decision.

IC: People of Malovinia must wake up!

[Ardoki]

it might, but this mass war looks bad enough that I am willing to take the risk if you see where I am coming form

Like splitting it up is a potential problem but this war is a real problem and will be extremely bloody

Splitting the country up will only delay war, a war which could be even more bloody.

Considering the people of Malovinia are fools to keep on trusting their corrupt government and that capitalists are only part of the alienated minority, and because the right answer comes with a solution to help the people of Malovinia out of their situation which is only achievable by helping the rebels, and doing so would only prolong war and even set off greater conflict, this is harder than i thought.

For now i can't make an immediate decision.

IC: People of Malovinia must wake up![/quote]
The UL and the CU have already pledged to reform and help Malovinia.

[Valaran]

So, what are we discussing?

Surrender to the capitalists.

uh no peace or mass war. I am a neutral party attempting to make peace. The Malovinian conflcit

[Ardoki]

Surrender to the capitalists.

uh no peace or mass war. I am a neutral party attempting to make peace. The Malovinian conflcit

Your peace is basically a surrender to the rebels.

[Aeyariss]

So, what are we discussing?

Surrender to the capitalists.

That's taking it to the extreme.

They're talking about peaceful resolution to Malovinia civil war.

[Valaran]

uh no peace or mass war. I am a neutral party attempting to make peace. The Malovinian conflcit

Your peace is basically a surrender to the rebels.

only you think so....

[Ardoki]

Surrender to the capitalists.

That's taking it to the extreme.

They're talking about peaceful resolution to Malovinia civil war.

We are conceding things, while gaining nothing in return. I would call that a defeat.

[Asigna]

The UL and the CU have already pledged to reform and help Malovinia.

Fine, let us sit and watch those "reforms". We reserve the right to support the capitalists if the situation doesn't evolve into a favorable one.

Go forth.

[Ardoki]

The UL and the CU have already pledged to reform and help Malovinia.

Fine, let us sit and watch those "reforms". We reserve the right to support the capitalists if the situation doesn't evolve into a favorable one.

Go forth.

Okay. However the country would have to be stable to enact them.

[Bojikami]

That's taking it to the extreme.

They're talking about peaceful resolution to Malovinia civil war.

We are conceding things, while gaining nothing in return. I would call that a defeat.

What are you talking about? We gain peace, and a reformed and better of socialist Malovinia, while the capitalists get their capitalist one. While this may not be the best position to take, I'll wait for TUM to get on so we can decide what to do.

[Valaran]

Fine, let us sit and watch those "reforms". We reserve the right to support the capitalists if the situation doesn't evolve into a favorable one.

Go forth.

Okay. However the country would have to be stable to enact them.

and the only way it would be stable is through peace. and the only way to achieve peace is through a deal. You concede some land for Peace.

[Ardoki]

We are conceding things, while gaining nothing in return. I would call that a defeat.

What are you talking about? We gain peace, and a reformed and better of socialist Malovinia, while the capitalists get their capitalist one. While this may not be the best position to take, I'll wait for TUM to get on so we can decide what to do.

If we concede to the capitalist rebels, it would only be fair to concede to the nazis as well (not that I would desire that).