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Mefpan
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Postby Mefpan » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:45 am

Oaledonia wrote:Oaledonia is willing to join a union. Plz take good care of me :3

I'll be the junior partner, if you don't mind.

Gets ability to integrate me after 50 years of uninterrupted rule at no infamy cost. Or one point of infamy per province, depending on whether we're in EUIV or EUIII.
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New Tyran
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Postby New Tyran » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:46 am

Oaledonia wrote:Oaledonia is willing to join a union. Plz take good care of me :3

That's heart attack inducing.

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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:04 am

New Tyran wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Oaledonia is willing to join a union. Plz take good care of me :3

That's heart attack inducing.

If you have heart attack, you wont be able to take good care of her <:c
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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:09 am

Mefpan wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Oaledonia is willing to join a union. Plz take good care of me :3

I'll be the junior partner, if you don't mind.

Gets ability to integrate me after 50 years of uninterrupted rule at no infamy cost. Or one point of infamy per province, depending on whether we're in EUIV or EUIII.

Mef into Oale culture and clothes! :3
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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New Tyran
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Postby New Tyran » Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:53 pm


Huh, I wonder what you're gonna add to that. GW wrote themselves into a corner with the ending of the 13th Black Crusade. The 40k storyline isn't going to advance further for quite some time. Then again it's not a story, it's a setting.

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Postby Gigaverse » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:29 pm

New Tyran wrote:

Huh, I wonder what you're gonna add to that. GW wrote themselves into a corner with the ending of the 13th Black Crusade. The 40k storyline isn't going to advance further for quite some time. Then again it's not a story, it's a setting.

My solution?

> Introduce new characters
> Slam in new plots
> PLOT TWEESTS
> ???
> Profit

Problem solved. GW sure wasted a good plot.
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New Tyran
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Postby New Tyran » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:32 pm

Gigaverse wrote:
New Tyran wrote:Huh, I wonder what you're gonna add to that. GW wrote themselves into a corner with the ending of the 13th Black Crusade. The 40k storyline isn't going to advance further for quite some time. Then again it's not a story, it's a setting.

My solution?

> Introduce new characters
> Slam in new plots
> PLOT TWEESTS
> ???
> Profit

Problem solved. GW sure wasted a good plot.

Agreed, shame they retconned it.

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Postby Tyrannov » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:38 pm

Olwe wrote:Actually, that does sound pretty good, and also like something that Olwe (well, Athan at any rate) could get into without fucking up the tech level too much.

Excellent!
Horizont wrote:Well, that sounds great. You won't mind if my character has powerful magic if I do decide to join, right?

Nope, since the witches have equally powerful magic. With confetti.
Mefpan wrote:Sign me right up. Perhaps I'll even cook up a more traditional version of 'Witch' for this thing. Or not. I'm half-tempted to roll with having a surprisingly sapient Puella Magi Madoka Magica witch make her appearance.

Hey, I'm a fervent fan of that anime too :< I'm designing Knights of St. Michael according to the Puella Magi, except they're boys and not turning into witch. Once died their souls pumped into a giant machine that'll unleash a massive power to kill God and free will.
New Tyran wrote:Interested.

Ardavia wrote:Also interested.

Oaledonia wrote:Oaledonian interest > all

Interest gained! OP will be written shortly after I deal with goddamn school.
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Horizont
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Postby Horizont » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:52 am

So, people say that you should fight fire with fire.

Now, I want to fight witches. The kind that fly on brooms.

But I don't really want to build a cannon that fires more witches at them.

So I made a flakpanzer to fire supersonic brooms at them.

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Postby The High Tatras » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:52 am

It is difficult for me to RP magic or deities in my nation because I tend to use RL religions, mostly Christianity.

One of my characters prays to a "Master Tinkerer of the Universe" (the term is inspired by the phrase "clockwork universe") for guidance and wisdom, but his personal religious beliefs most resemble those of a Deist in the mould of Thomas Jefferson. Obviously this is not conductive at all to RPing magic or deities.

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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:09 am

Horizont wrote:So, people say that you should fight fire with fire.

Now, I want to fight witches. The kind that fly on brooms.

But I don't really want to build a cannon that fires more witches at them.

So I made a flakpanzer to fire supersonic brooms at them.


oalewitch ez sad :c
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Postby Horizont » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:12 am

Oaledonia wrote:
Horizont wrote:So, people say that you should fight fire with fire.

Now, I want to fight witches. The kind that fly on brooms.

But I don't really want to build a cannon that fires more witches at them.

So I made a flakpanzer to fire supersonic brooms at them.


oalewitch ez sad :c


Oalewitch iz nicht enemy witch.

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Gigaverse
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Postby Gigaverse » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:23 am

The High Tatras wrote:It is difficult for me to RP magic or deities in my nation because I tend to use RL religions, mostly Christianity.

One of my characters prays to a "Master Tinkerer of the Universe" (the term is inspired by the phrase "clockwork universe") for guidance and wisdom, but his personal religious beliefs most resemble those of a Deist in the mould of Thomas Jefferson. Obviously this is not conductive at all to RPing magic or deities.

I once took the premise of there being the Japanese God of Creation in my lore.

Then my liberal combination with H. P. Lovecraft began. Now, "Izanagi" has become a unique concept upon... himself.
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:25 am

Horizont wrote:


Oalewitch iz nicht enemy witch.

Good, because I wouldn't want to destroy such a weak nation as yourself :P
Seriously though, don't make my adorables cry <:C
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:26 am

Gigaverse wrote:
The High Tatras wrote:It is difficult for me to RP magic or deities in my nation because I tend to use RL religions, mostly Christianity.

One of my characters prays to a "Master Tinkerer of the Universe" (the term is inspired by the phrase "clockwork universe") for guidance and wisdom, but his personal religious beliefs most resemble those of a Deist in the mould of Thomas Jefferson. Obviously this is not conductive at all to RPing magic or deities.

I once took the premise of there being the Japanese God of Creation in my lore.

Then my liberal combination with H. P. Lovecraft began. Now, "Izanagi" has become a unique concept upon... himself.

Susanoo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every Shinto deity.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Horizont
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Postby Horizont » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:30 am

Oaledonia wrote:
Horizont wrote:
Oalewitch iz nicht enemy witch.

Good, because I wouldn't want to destroy such a weak nation as yourself :P
Seriously though, don't make my adorables cry <:C


It would bring little benefit.

I want to expend all the effort I can on crushing ze dirty rebels right now.

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Postby Gigaverse » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:32 am

Oaledonia wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:I once took the premise of there being the Japanese God of Creation in my lore.

Then my liberal combination with H. P. Lovecraft began. Now, "Izanagi" has become a unique concept upon... himself.

Susanoo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every Shinto deity.

Susanoo didn't have incest with his sister. While I agree that he's badass, his incestuous relationship (if that even counted as one) didn't end in tragedy. I can also relate more with Adam and Eve; and: Izanami didn't deserve such horrible fates.

I am more interested with closer-related relation.
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Postby The High Tatras » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:52 am

I don't know what the attitudes of RL Shintos usually are regarding people writing fiction about their deities, but I would find it rather insulting if someone decided to deliberately write fiction about the Judeo-Christian God. Yes, I know that the people who wrote the Old Testament wrote it long after the events they are discussing would have taken place had they been true and factual, but they probably believed that those events happened the way they wrote them down.

I have considered utilizing aspects of popular or folk Christianity that are not considered Biblical canon, such as "Elijah the Thunderer" (based on the prophet Elijah) being a replacement for the Slavic pagan deity "Perun". I have also thought of creating some kind of terrifying and secretive cult that worships the Slavic pagan deity "Chernobog" as a villainous faction within my nation that tries to infiltrate the government and various Christian churches and secretly occupies some high positions in both. It would be left up to question whether this "wicked cult" actually exists or is just the product of some Tatran people's paranoia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobog
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Postby The High Tatras » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:45 am

One of my ideas for how the "wicked cult" would gain power is that they would subtly "train" new members to become idol worshippers by encouraging exaggerated reverence for Christian icons and relics. They would also have anti-intellectual component, but would disguise this as populism, which would be easy because many of my nation's leaders are scholars and intellectuals. Pagan magical rituals would be disguised as "miracles", and these "miracles" would be part of the cult's way to emphasize emotion and sentimentality over logic and reason. Since my leader is a Deist and believes in "Age of Enlightenment" or "Age of Reason" philosophy, the cult would spread black propaganda claiming that he plans to "dismantle all religions" and replace them with "a new era of science and reason".
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Postby Ardavia » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:52 am

Horizont wrote:So, people say that you should fight fire with fire.

Now, I want to fight witches. The kind that fly on brooms.

But I don't really want to build a cannon that fires more witches at them.

So I made a flakpanzer to fire supersonic brooms at them.



*brooms splinter against air friction*

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Postby Horizont » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:55 am

Ardavia wrote:
Horizont wrote:So, people say that you should fight fire with fire.

Now, I want to fight witches. The kind that fly on brooms.

But I don't really want to build a cannon that fires more witches at them.

So I made a flakpanzer to fire supersonic brooms at them.



*brooms splinter against air friction*

:P


Shush what that kind of realism! If you propagate it further, my whole fabric of reality may break down due to the sheer amount of unrealism already present!

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Postby Saurisisia » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:04 pm

The High Tatras wrote:One of my ideas for how the "wicked cult" would gain power is that they would subtly "train" new members to become idol worshippers by encouraging exaggerated reverence for Christian icons and relics. They would also have anti-intellectual component, but would disguise this as populism, which would be easy because many of my nation's leaders are scholars and intellectuals. Pagan magical rituals would be disguised as "miracles", and these "miracles" would be part of the cult's way to emphasize emotion and sentimentality over logic and reason. Since my leader is a Deist and believes in "Age of Enlightenment" or "Age of Reason" philosophy, the cult would spread black propaganda claiming that he plans to "dismantle all religions" and replace them with "a new era of science and reason".

You know, 5hat actually does sound pretty awesome.
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:07 pm

The High Tatras wrote:I don't know what the attitudes of RL Shintos usually are regarding people writing fiction about their deities, but I would find it rather insulting if someone decided to deliberately write fiction about the Judeo-Christian God. Yes, I know that the people who wrote the Old Testament wrote it long after the events they are discussing would have taken place had they been true and factual, but they probably believed that those events happened the way they wrote them down.

I have considered utilizing aspects of popular or folk Christianity that are not considered Biblical canon, such as "Elijah the Thunderer" (based on the prophet Elijah) being a replacement for the Slavic pagan deity "Perun". I have also thought of creating some kind of terrifying and secretive cult that worships the Slavic pagan deity "Chernobog" as a villainous faction within my nation that tries to infiltrate the government and various Christian churches and secretly occupies some high positions in both. It would be left up to question whether this "wicked cult" actually exists or is just the product of some Tatran people's paranoia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobog

Writing fiction about Shinto deities happens all the time, no one is bothered by it - because it isn't as strict as Christianity.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Postby Mefpan » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:13 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
The High Tatras wrote:I don't know what the attitudes of RL Shintos usually are regarding people writing fiction about their deities, but I would find it rather insulting if someone decided to deliberately write fiction about the Judeo-Christian God. Yes, I know that the people who wrote the Old Testament wrote it long after the events they are discussing would have taken place had they been true and factual, but they probably believed that those events happened the way they wrote them down.

I have considered utilizing aspects of popular or folk Christianity that are not considered Biblical canon, such as "Elijah the Thunderer" (based on the prophet Elijah) being a replacement for the Slavic pagan deity "Perun". I have also thought of creating some kind of terrifying and secretive cult that worships the Slavic pagan deity "Chernobog" as a villainous faction within my nation that tries to infiltrate the government and various Christian churches and secretly occupies some high positions in both. It would be left up to question whether this "wicked cult" actually exists or is just the product of some Tatran people's paranoia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobog

Writing fiction about Shinto deities happens all the time, no one is bothered by it - because it isn't as strict as Christianity.

And still I avoid touching the topic any more than absolutely necessary.

Mind you, at the same time I'm propagating an IC theory that the god of the Abrahamic religions is not just one and the same entity but one with a thrice-split personality that works against itself but more importantly against anything that might threaten its power base.

For some reason, I try to avoid making a frightful mess out of Shintoism whilst almost going out of my way to make as big a mess out of all the Abrahamic faiths as possible.
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:15 pm

Mefpan wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Writing fiction about Shinto deities happens all the time, no one is bothered by it - because it isn't as strict as Christianity.

And still I avoid touching the topic any more than absolutely necessary.

Mind you, at the same time I'm propagating an IC theory that the god of the Abrahamic religions is not just one and the same entity but one with a thrice-split personality that works against itself but more importantly against anything that might threaten its power base.

For some reason, I try to avoid making a frightful mess out of Shintoism whilst almost going out of my way to make as big a mess out of all the Abrahamic faiths as possible.

Shinto is literally the easiest religion to understand, it's more folk-lore then it is a dedicated religion.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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