Screw Realism! (2nd thread, RP Group, Open)

[Greater Mackonia]

moral capabilities

What's that supposed to mean?

[The High Tatras]

moral capabilities

What's that supposed to mean?

They are highly skilled at introspection and self-analysis, which is useful when they must make difficult decisions. "Moral capabilities" was probably not the right term to describe this.

[The V O I D]

...So, there's an RP idea lingering in my head. But, since no one gains any interest in my threads, I need someone to act as the face/OP of said thread for the RP idea.
Anyone want the role of being my "puppet", sotospeak?

[Themiclesia]

...So, there's an RP idea lingering in my head. But, since no one gains any interest in my threads, I need someone to act as the face/OP of said thread for the RP idea.
Anyone want the role of being my "puppet", sotospeak?

I greatly doubt that.

[The High Tatras]

Currently my nation's main religion is a form of Christianity that takes influences from some of the more radical movements of the Protestant Reformation such as Jan Žižka z Trocnova a Kalicha's Taborites and Thomas Müntzer's Anabaptists, both of whom called for total abolition of the feudal system and wanted to create a classless society. I have occasionally considered replacing Christianity in my nation's canon with "Christian Deism" that was popular with many thinkers during the "Age of Enlightenment". Atheism and any variety of pagan or animist beliefs are completely out of the question. What do you guys think I should do?

[Giliberafta]

Currently my nation's main religion is a form of Christianity that takes influences from some of the more radical movements of the Protestant Reformation such as Jan Žižka z Trocnova a Kalicha's Taborites and Thomas Müntzer's Anabaptists, both of whom called for total abolition of the feudal system and wanted to create a classless society. I have occasionally considered replacing Christianity in my nation's canon with "Christian Deism" that was popular with many thinkers during the "Age of Enlightenment". Atheism and any variety of pagan or animist beliefs are completely out of the question. What do you guys think I should do?

Well, do you want a classless society in your nation (aka a Communist state)? And is Christinity the , ost practice religion or just the official religion?

[The High Tatras]

Currently my nation's main religion is a form of Christianity that takes influences from some of the more radical movements of the Protestant Reformation such as Jan Žižka z Trocnova a Kalicha's Taborites and Thomas Müntzer's Anabaptists, both of whom called for total abolition of the feudal system and wanted to create a classless society. I have occasionally considered replacing Christianity in my nation's canon with "Christian Deism" that was popular with many thinkers during the "Age of Enlightenment". Atheism and any variety of pagan or animist beliefs are completely out of the question. What do you guys think I should do?

Well, do you want a classless society in your nation (aka a Communist state)? And is Christinity the , ost practice religion or just the official religion?

Christianity is by far the majority religion, but people are free to practice other religions. A classless society is considered desirable and represents an ultimate goal to strive for, but it is admitted that such a society does not yet exist and may take a very long time to achieve.

[The High Tatras]

Summation of ideology (still trying to come up with a unique name for it):

• All humanity (and by extension, self-aware species) are brothers and sisters, and all have natural and inalienable God-given rights. It does not matter if these things are called “life, liberty, and property”, “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”, “liberty, equality, and fraternity”, “land and liberty”, “peace, land, and bread”, or so on. These things are sacred and they must be protected for everyone. If a government fails or refuses to protect them for everyone, then it has no legitimacy and it must be either drastically reformed or dismantled and replaced.
• We support a democratic republic as the form of government.
• We support a market economy characterized by worker cooperatives organized around autogestion. Sole proprietorships are also okay for smaller businesses.
• Nationalizing industries does not solve problems. It simply transfers control of an industry from one corrupt bureaucrat to another.
• Industry should be regulated (but not controlled) to maintain competitive conditions and protect the rights of workers and consumers.
• A welfare state should be maintained to provide for the basic needs of all citizens.
• A good quality education is a right, not a privilege. Education should run on the concept of "empiricism", which is the idea that knowledge comes from experience. In particular, there should be a great emphasis on research projects, classroom demonstrations, and trips outside the classroom. "Inductive reasoning" should be encouraged, by presenting students with the facts and asking them to come up with their own conclusions.
• Voluntary collectivization of farmlands and agricultural property should be encouraged. Forced collectivization is contradictory to the principles of democracy and socialism.
• Industrial unions can bypass the government to achieve change. Tactics may include wildcat strikes, sit-in strikes, educating the public, and sabotage.
• Socialism is not inevitable, class consciousness does not arise out of thin air.
• We support internationalism; one world government should be achieved gradually through incremental stages.
• Fascist dictatorships must be stopped from establishing themselves before it is too late, but we must try to avoid direct military intervention in foreign policy whenever possible.
• We support free trade between all nations (except dictatorships), and no tariffs.
• Economics is the most important driving force in history.
• Taxes should be paid by everyone based on their ability to pay.
• The military should be all volunteer and there should be no draft or conscription.
• There is not and cannot be a vanguard party.
• We support free speech (except for libel/ slander, plagiarism, obscenity, and commercial speech).
• We support freedom of religion, but not freedom from religion (you cannot stop someone from expressing their religious beliefs in public, including in government buildings).
• We must be open to change and willing to find policies that work through trial and error.

[The Polarian Empire]

Summation of ideology (still trying to come up with a unique name for it):

• All humanity (and by extension, self-aware species) are brothers and sisters, and all have natural and inalienable God-given rights. It does not matter if these things are called “life, liberty, and property”, “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”, “liberty, equality, and fraternity”, “land and liberty”, “peace, land, and bread”, or so on. These things are sacred and they must be protected for everyone. If a government fails or refuses to protect them for everyone, then it has no legitimacy and it must be either drastically reformed or dismantled and replaced.
• We support a democratic republic as the form of government.
• We support a market economy characterized by worker cooperatives organized around autogestion. Sole proprietorships are also okay for smaller businesses.
• Nationalizing industries does not solve problems. It simply transfers control of an industry from one corrupt bureaucrat to another.
• Industry should be regulated (but not controlled) to maintain competitive conditions and protect the rights of workers and consumers.
• A welfare state should be maintained to provide for the basic needs of all citizens.
• A good quality education is a right, not a privilege. Education should run on the concept of "empiricism", which is the idea that knowledge comes from experience. In particular, there should be a great emphasis on research projects, classroom demonstrations, and trips outside the classroom. "Inductive reasoning" should be encouraged, by presenting students with the facts and asking them to come up with their own conclusions.
• Voluntary collectivization of farmlands and agricultural property should be encouraged. Forced collectivization is contradictory to the principles of democracy and socialism.
• Industrial unions can bypass the government to achieve change. Tactics may include wildcat strikes, sit-in strikes, educating the public, and sabotage.
• Socialism is not inevitable, class consciousness does not arise out of thin air.
• We support internationalism; one world government should be achieved gradually through incremental stages.
• Fascist dictatorships must be stopped from establishing themselves before it is too late, but we must try to avoid direct military intervention in foreign policy whenever possible.
• We support free trade between all nations (except dictatorships), and no tariffs.
• Economics is the most important driving force in history.
• Taxes should be paid by everyone based on their ability to pay.
• The military should be all volunteer and there should be no draft or conscription.
• There is not and cannot be a vanguard party.
• We support free speech (except for libel/ slander, plagiarism, obscenity, and commercial speech).
• We support freedom of religion, but not freedom from religion (you cannot stop someone from expressing their religious beliefs in public, including in government buildings).
• We must be open to change and willing to find policies that work through trial and error.

I praise you, that is one amazingly creative mind bravo! A true artist never finishes it work.... if you wanna call that art

[Themiclesia]

-Snip-

Tatras, you mustn't make your nation perfect; it must have faults too. Only faults make nations interesting.

[The High Tatras]

-Snip-

Tatras, you mustn't make your nation perfect; it must have faults too. Only faults make nations interesting.

It is not supposed to be perfect. It is supposed to be similar to my OOC views, which may prove to be completely wrong.

Besides, The High Tatras does have a dark side.

20th century:
• We have eugenics laws. For a couple to be granted a license to procreate, they must first take government-approved childcare courses, submit proof of a marriage or civil union, pass a psychological examination, and take a blood test to check for sexually transmitted diseases and genetic disorders. Those who violate these laws are forcibly sterilized.
• The death penalty has been abolished and replaced by a delicate brain surgery that is designed to remove criminal tendencies and turn mass murderers back into productive members of society. In practice, this procedure has a high possibility for errors, with horrendous consequences.
• Government issued political propaganda (Do community service! Report crimes to the police! Vote in all elections! Pay your taxes! Buy government bonds! Enlist in the armed forces! Live a healthy and safe lifestyle!) is commonplace.
17th century:
• There is officially freedom of religion, but anti-Semitism and anti-Catholicism are rampant. Lynchings of Jews and Roman Catholics are a regular occurrence, and the government tends to look the other way.
• A person from one village is believed to have the right to kill a person from another village because that person stole livestock that belonged to his or her village.
• The nation in general is relatively poor, at least compared to massive empire states.
• Alcoholism is quite common.
• The nation is almost constantly in a state of low-intensity warfare with at least one of its hostile neighbors. It has few allies and many enemies. These conflicts were originally ideological or religious in nature, but raids for resources are common due to the relative poverty of the nation.

[The V O I D]

...So, there's an RP idea lingering in my head. But, since no one gains any interest in my threads, I need someone to act as the face/OP of said thread for the RP idea.
Anyone want the role of being my "puppet", sotospeak?

I greatly doubt that.

Doubt what?

[Auzkhia]

Tatras, you mustn't make your nation perfect; it must have faults too. Only faults make nations interesting.

It is not supposed to be perfect. It is supposed to be similar to my OOC views, which may prove to be completely wrong.

Besides, The High Tatras does have a dark side.

20th century:
• We have eugenics laws. For a couple to be granted a license to procreate, they must first take government-approved childcare courses, submit proof of a marriage or civil union, pass a psychological examination, and take a blood test to check for sexually transmitted diseases and genetic disorders. Those who violate these laws are forcibly sterilized.
• The death penalty has been abolished and replaced by a delicate brain surgery that is designed to remove criminal tendencies and turn mass murderers back into productive members of society. In practice, this procedure has a high possibility for errors, with horrendous consequences.
• Government issued political propaganda (Do community service! Report crimes to the police! Vote in all elections! Pay your taxes! Buy government bonds! Enlist in the armed forces! Live a healthy and safe lifestyle!) is commonplace.
17th century:
• There is officially freedom of religion, but anti-Semitism and anti-Catholicism are rampant. Lynchings of Jews and Roman Catholics are a regular occurrence, and the government tends to look the other way.
• A person from one village is believed to have the right to kill a person from another village because that person stole livestock that belonged to his or her village.
• The nation in general is relatively poor, at least compared to massive empire states.
• Alcoholism is quite common.
• The nation is almost constantly in a state of low-intensity warfare with at least one of its hostile neighbors. It has few allies and many enemies. These conflicts were originally ideological or religious in nature, but raids for resources are common due to the relative poverty of the nation.

In those times, Auzkhia would be your enemy.

[The High Tatras]

Summation of ideology (still trying to come up with a unique name for it):

• All humanity (and by extension, self-aware species) are brothers and sisters, and all have natural and inalienable God-given rights. It does not matter if these things are called “life, liberty, and property”, “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”, “liberty, equality, and fraternity”, “land and liberty”, “peace, land, and bread”, or so on. These things are sacred and they must be protected for everyone. If a government fails or refuses to protect them for everyone, then it has no legitimacy and it must be either drastically reformed or dismantled and replaced.
• We support a democratic republic as the form of government.
• We support a market economy characterized by worker cooperatives organized around autogestion. Sole proprietorships are also okay for smaller businesses.
• Nationalizing industries does not solve problems. It simply transfers control of an industry from one corrupt bureaucrat to another.
• Industry should be regulated (but not controlled) to maintain competitive conditions and protect the rights of workers and consumers.
• A welfare state should be maintained to provide for the basic needs of all citizens.
• A good quality education is a right, not a privilege. Education should run on the concept of "empiricism", which is the idea that knowledge comes from experience. In particular, there should be a great emphasis on research projects, classroom demonstrations, and trips outside the classroom. "Inductive reasoning" should be encouraged, by presenting students with the facts and asking them to come up with their own conclusions.
• Voluntary collectivization of farmlands and agricultural property should be encouraged. Forced collectivization is contradictory to the principles of democracy and socialism.
• Industrial unions can bypass the government to achieve change. Tactics may include wildcat strikes, sit-in strikes, educating the public, and sabotage.
• Socialism is not inevitable, class consciousness does not arise out of thin air.
• We support internationalism; one world government should be achieved gradually through incremental stages.
• Fascist dictatorships must be stopped from establishing themselves before it is too late, but we must try to avoid direct military intervention in foreign policy whenever possible.
• We support free trade between all nations (except dictatorships), and no tariffs.
• Economics is the most important driving force in history.
• Taxes should be paid by everyone based on their ability to pay.
• The military should be all volunteer and there should be no draft or conscription.
• There is not and cannot be a vanguard party.
• We support free speech (except for libel/ slander, plagiarism, obscenity, and commercial speech).
• We support freedom of religion, but not freedom from religion (you cannot stop someone from expressing their religious beliefs in public, including in government buildings).
• We must be open to change and willing to find policies that work through trial and error.

I praise you, that is one amazingly creative mind bravo! A true artist never finishes it work.... if you wanna call that art

I assume you are being sarcastic.

[Todlichebujoku]

I praise you, that is one amazingly creative mind bravo! A true artist never finishes it work.... if you wanna call that art

I assume you are being sarcastic.

I personally think it's genuine praise.

[The High Tatras]

I assume you are being sarcastic.

I personally think it's genuine praise.

I did not think my ideology was particularly creative.

[Themiclesia]

Tatras, you mustn't make your nation perfect; it must have faults too. Only faults make nations interesting.

It is not supposed to be perfect. It is supposed to be similar to my OOC views, which may prove to be completely wrong.

Besides, The High Tatras does have a dark side.

20th century:
• We have eugenics laws. For a couple to be granted a license to procreate, they must first take government-approved childcare courses, submit proof of a marriage or civil union, pass a psychological examination, and take a blood test to check for sexually transmitted diseases and genetic disorders. Those who violate these laws are forcibly sterilized.
• The death penalty has been abolished and replaced by a delicate brain surgery that is designed to remove criminal tendencies and turn mass murderers back into productive members of society. In practice, this procedure has a high possibility for errors, with horrendous consequences.
• Government issued political propaganda (Do community service! Report crimes to the police! Vote in all elections! Pay your taxes! Buy government bonds! Enlist in the armed forces! Live a healthy and safe lifestyle!) is commonplace.
17th century:
• There is officially freedom of religion, but anti-Semitism and anti-Catholicism are rampant. Lynchings of Jews and Roman Catholics are a regular occurrence, and the government tends to look the other way.
• A person from one village is believed to have the right to kill a person from another village because that person stole livestock that belonged to his or her village.
• The nation in general is relatively poor, at least compared to massive empire states.
• Alcoholism is quite common.
• The nation is almost constantly in a state of low-intensity warfare with at least one of its hostile neighbors. It has few allies and many enemies. These conflicts were originally ideological or religious in nature, but raids for resources are common due to the relative poverty of the nation.

Well, people in Themiclesia are so traditional that they don't have bright or dark sides. They only have sides that don't really fall into the 'good' or 'bad' categories conveniently. Many of their tenets are considered absolutely meaningless by modern scholars. For example, Themiclesia maintains the distinction of "race", but the rules governing race have absolutely no justification (unlike the Nazis who tried to provide pseudo-scientific justification), but rather taken for granted as divine law.

[The High Tatras]

My primary goal in life is to accumulate enough influence to actually have some kind of impact on the world around me. It does not even necessarily have to be a positive impact, as long as I have done the best I can do. If I cannot accomplish this in some way then my life will have been meaningless.

Unfortunately, I do not know of any ways I can gain influence that do not meet one or more of the following characteristics.

• Would require natural talents that I do not possess.
• Would require me to sacrifice some of my own convictions, thus defeating the purpose of self-actualization and achieving my fullest potential.
• Would require me to spend a large proportion of my life doing mind-numbing work guaranteed to make me miserable.

I think I am doomed to utter mediocrity at best. This is a very depressing thought. All I have left to make me happy is distractions and diversions that entertain me for the short time left I have on Earth (this forum perhaps among them).

[The High Tatras]

My primary goal in life is to accumulate enough influence to actually have some kind of impact on the world around me. It does not even necessarily have to be a positive impact, as long as I have done the best I can do. If I cannot accomplish this in some way then my life will have been meaningless.

Unfortunately, I do not know of any ways I can gain influence that do not meet one or more of the following characteristics.

• Would require natural talents that I do not possess.
• Would require me to sacrifice some of my own convictions, thus defeating the purpose of self-actualization and achieving my fullest potential.
• Would require me to spend a large proportion of my life doing mind-numbing work guaranteed to make me miserable.

I think I am doomed to utter mediocrity at best. This is a very depressing thought. All I have left to make me happy is distractions and diversions that entertain me for the short time left I have on Earth (this forum perhaps among them).

I am unsure if I am more or less level-headed than usual right now.

[The High Tatras]

I wish I could have a girlfriend. That would make me so much happier and maybe it would also make me finally grow up instead of being locked in some awkward intermediate stage between adolescence and adulthood. I long to move out of my parent's house, but I do not think I could live by myself right now. I slack off too much on basic household work and chores and I have also never had a paying job in my life.

Really, I'm just depressed right now and I wish I had someone to hug me who isn't my mother or a dog, although I have been wanting to have a relationship for quite a while. I am just afraid to try. I don't know how to start one or go about it.

[Auzkhia]

I wish I could have a girlfriend. That would make me so much happier and maybe it would also make me finally grow up instead of being locked in some awkward intermediate stage between adolescence and adulthood. I long to move out of my parent's house, but I do not think I could live by myself right now. I slack off too much on basic household work and chores and I have also never had a paying job in my life.

Really, I'm just depressed right now and I wish I had someone to hug me who isn't my mother or a dog, although I have been wanting to have a relationship for quite a while. I am just afraid to try. I don't know how to start one or go about it.

Despite our IC differences, we can be friends. I have a boyfriend and he's awesome. So having a partner does help you and your emotions. Your age is hard, but once you get a bit older, things get better.

Just hold on, and always look on the bright side of life.

[New Frenco Empire]

I wish I had someone to hug me who isn't a dog,

Are you trying to say snuggling with an animal doesn't solve all of your problems?

If that's the case, you are a filthy commie heretic that needs to drown in a swimming pool of German Shepard puppies! It won't kill you, but you'l definitely take it back.

[The High Tatras]

I do consider you to be my friend OOCly, Auzi. Thanks for your support, regardless of whether I really deserve it. Somehow I have thoroughly convinced myself that I am a terrible human being, to the point where supernatural entities periodically appear in my dreams and punish me while telling me I deserve to be punished. It sounds absurd when I say it, but I am telling the truth.

[The High Tatras]

I wish I had someone to hug me who isn't a dog,

Are you trying to say snuggling with an animal doesn't solve all of your problems?

If that's the case, you are a filthy commie heretic that needs to drown in a swimming pool of German Shepard puppies! It won't kill you, but you'l definitely take it back.

My two dogs are my best friends. For most of my high school years they were my only true friends.

[New Frenco Empire]

Are you trying to say snuggling with an animal doesn't solve all of your problems?

If that's the case, you are a filthy commie heretic that needs to drown in a swimming pool of German Shepard puppies! It won't kill you, but you'l definitely take it back.

My two dogs are my best friends. For most of my high school years they were my only true friends.

Fuck it. As someone who has no real shortage of "friends", dogs and cats make better companions by a loooooong shot. My kitten never broke off all contact with me over a pack of cigarettes and my Labrador never attempted to slander me over my sexual orientation after I told him to lay off yelling at his girlfriend at the time. Count yourself lucky to keep such quality company.