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Bratislav
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Postby Bratislav » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:28 pm

Thalsyer wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:You tell me to be silent. Yet, your thoughts are only savored due to the silence of your enemies.

No longer shall I stand silent, as you are just making empty claims with no recent proof to back them up, as you bash us on our Board, make plans against us, and are all-out openly rude to us. And just namecall in the process.


Bratislav have you gone mad? Why are we suddenly cooperating with the OEN-spinoff?


Well apparently the new UAS is more about containing communism and has become more moderate. We can straighten that our in the summit.




DEAR IFA MEMBERS, THE SUMMIT HAS BEEN POSTED. THIS WILL BE A VERY IMPORTANT ONE SO PLEASE ATTEND:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=300416
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The United Motherland
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Postby The United Motherland » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:29 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Thalsyer wrote:
Bratislav have you gone mad? Why are we suddenly cooperating with the OEN-spinoff?


Well apparently the new UAS is more about containing communism and has become more moderate. We can straighten that our in the summit.




DEAR IFA MEMBERS, THE SUMMIT HAS BEEN POSTED. THIS WILL BE A VERY IMPORTANT ONE SO PLEASE ATTEND: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=300416

No, but really, they're aligning themselves with this:

viewtopic.php?t=300414&f=4&view=unread#unread

Best allies of the UAS, and an OEN rebirth.

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Bratislav
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Postby Bratislav » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:31 pm

The United Motherland wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
Well apparently the new UAS is more about containing communism and has become more moderate. We can straighten that our in the summit.




DEAR IFA MEMBERS, THE SUMMIT HAS BEEN POSTED. THIS WILL BE A VERY IMPORTANT ONE SO PLEASE ATTEND: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=300416

No, but really, they're aligning themselves with this:

viewtopic.php?t=300414&f=4&view=unread#unread

Best allies of the UAS, and an OEN rebirth.


yeah that's troubling actually, by the way, I invite you to the Summit Officially to represent the UL.
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The United Motherland
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Postby The United Motherland » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:32 pm

Bratislav wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:No, but really, they're aligning themselves with this:

viewtopic.php?t=300414&f=4&view=unread#unread

Best allies of the UAS, and an OEN rebirth.


yeah that's troubling actually, by the way, I invite you to the Summit Officially to represent the UL.
Understood. Will make post when posts slow down.

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Vedria
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Postby Vedria » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:39 pm

I take it that relations with the UL are still good?
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Asigna
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Postby Asigna » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:41 pm

Bratislav wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:No, but really, they're aligning themselves with this:

viewtopic.php?t=300414&f=4&view=unread#unread

Best allies of the UAS, and an OEN rebirth.


yeah that's troubling actually, by the way, I invite you to the Summit Officially to represent the UL.


The thread was made quicker than i thought.

" Aliens. "

Alright, cooperation, here we come.
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Thalsyer
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Founded: Mar 03, 2014
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Postby Thalsyer » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:42 pm

Bratislav wrote:
The United Motherland wrote:No, but really, they're aligning themselves with this:

viewtopic.php?t=300414&f=4&view=unread#unread

Best allies of the UAS, and an OEN rebirth.


yeah that's troubling actually, by the way, I invite you to the Summit Officially to represent the UL.


My party will not attend. We barred doing business with OEN nations. The resolution enforcing this is still up. Rules are rules and for some reason our executive founder has decided to go against one he put up himself.

Bratislav may be in violation of Resolution #3 and since recognizing this possibility the IFA council now needs to vote and see if Bratislav is actually in violation of the Resolution and what category(major or minor offense) the violation falls under.

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Bratislav
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Postby Bratislav » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:45 pm

Thalsyer wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
yeah that's troubling actually, by the way, I invite you to the Summit Officially to represent the UL.


My party will not attend. We barred doing business with OEN nations. The resolution enforcing this is still up. Rules are rules and for some reason our executive founder has decided to go against one he put up himself.

Bratislav may be in violation of Resolution #3 and since recognizing this possibility the IFA council now needs to vote and see if Bratislav is actually in violation of the Resolution and what category(major or minor offense) the violation falls under.


The OEN doesn't exist any more so how can the Resolution be enforced? If you leave an alliance, you cut all ties to it. That resolution was targeting active OEN members.
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Ardoki
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:48 pm

You should see this guys.

Xelryion Curvgfann wrote:
Asigna wrote:
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Mabuhay!

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Thalsyer
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Postby Thalsyer » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:51 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Thalsyer wrote:
My party will not attend. We barred doing business with OEN nations. The resolution enforcing this is still up. Rules are rules and for some reason our executive founder has decided to go against one he put up himself.

Bratislav may be in violation of Resolution #3 and since recognizing this possibility the IFA council now needs to vote and see if Bratislav is actually in violation of the Resolution and what category(major or minor offense) the violation falls under.


The OEN doesn't exist any more so how can the Resolution be enforced? If you leave an alliance, you cut all ties to it. That resolution was targeting active OEN members.


I know who some members are. Other people may as well. They still committed international crimes. Are you saying that because they changed the name of their alliance that suddenly that just all goes away like *poof* and is forgiven despite an active law lamenting those actions? Did we not condemn the alliance but mean the member nations in the alliance too? You are a good leader but we have rules that we must follow.

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Bratislav
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Postby Bratislav » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:51 pm

Ardoki wrote:You should see this guys.

Xelryion Curvgfann wrote:DOWN WITH COMMUNISM! UP WITH FACISM! THE ORDER OF AXIS NATIONS SHALL PREVAIL!


Thanks for that, statements like that affect cooperation prospects.
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The United Motherland
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Founded: Sep 10, 2013
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Postby The United Motherland » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:51 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Ardoki wrote:You should see this guys.



Thanks for that, statements like that affect cooperation prospects.

Indeed.

Will be at meeting in a few minutes.

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Bratislav
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Postby Bratislav » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:54 pm

Thalsyer wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
The OEN doesn't exist any more so how can the Resolution be enforced? If you leave an alliance, you cut all ties to it. That resolution was targeting active OEN members.


I know who some members are. Other people may as well. They still committed international crimes. Are you saying that because they changed the name of their alliance that suddenly that just all goes away like *poof* and is forgiven despite an active law lamenting those actions? Did we not condemn the alliance but mean the member nations in the alliance too? You are a good leader but we have rules that we must follow.


I have been under the impression that UAS is a more moderate alliance that rejects the embrace of fascism that the OEN had. I am hoping that UAS truly represents a more moderate alliance than OEN was. If that's not the case, obviously nothing can't go forward. The thing is we are only exploring options at the moment. Honestly, the best alliance suited for cooperation is the Western Coalition, but they haven't been very active in responding to cooperation offers. I would like to explore what this UAS represents, cooperation with Axis, support of Fascism will turn them away from any such statement.
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Victoriala
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Postby Victoriala » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:54 pm

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The United Motherland
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Postby The United Motherland » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:57 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Thalsyer wrote:
I know who some members are. Other people may as well. They still committed international crimes. Are you saying that because they changed the name of their alliance that suddenly that just all goes away like *poof* and is forgiven despite an active law lamenting those actions? Did we not condemn the alliance but mean the member nations in the alliance too? You are a good leader but we have rules that we must follow.


I have been under the impression that UAS is a more moderate alliance that rejects the embrace of fascism that the OEN had. I am hoping that UAS truly represents a more moderate alliance than OEN was. If that's not the case, obviously nothing can't go forward. The thing is we are only exploring options at the moment. Honestly, the best alliance suited for cooperation is the Western Coalition, but they haven't been very active in responding to cooperation offers. I would like to explore what this UAS represents, cooperation with Axis, support of Fascism will turn them away from any such statement.

Well. Their main government is apart of the Axis. But your choice, comrade.

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Asigna
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Postby Asigna » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:59 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Thalsyer wrote:
I know who some members are. Other people may as well. They still committed international crimes. Are you saying that because they changed the name of their alliance that suddenly that just all goes away like *poof* and is forgiven despite an active law lamenting those actions? Did we not condemn the alliance but mean the member nations in the alliance too? You are a good leader but we have rules that we must follow.


I have been under the impression that UAS is a more moderate alliance that rejects the embrace of fascism that the OEN had. I am hoping that UAS truly represents a more moderate alliance than OEN was. If that's not the case, obviously nothing can't go forward. The thing is we are only exploring options at the moment. Honestly, the best alliance suited for cooperation is the Western Coalition, but they haven't been very active in responding to cooperation offers. I would like to explore what this UAS represents, cooperation with Axis, support of Fascism will turn them away from any such statement.


We do not serve for the interests of fascism. We do not support jihad, we do not support western neo imperialism, we oppose every jingoistic communist states such as those who ignore all calls to ignore us and leave us alone, those are our main tennets.

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China-_-
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Application of the Republic of China

Postby China-_- » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:04 pm

Formal Country Name: Republic of China
Capital: Nanking
Seat of Central Government: Taipei
Population: 2.48 Billion
Head of State: Chiang Kai-wei
Head of Government: See Head of State
Form of Government: Presidential Parliamentary Democracy
Economic System: State Capitalism
Military Size (active): 490 000
Reason for Joining IFA: To proactive engage with likeminded colleagues in maintaining peace and prosperity in the world.
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): Centre-Right
Is your Government by the people (exercised either directly or through elected representatives)? Yes
What other military alliances are you a part of: None
Representative to the IFA Council: Hua Kuo-cheng
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Bratislav
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Postby Bratislav » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:05 pm

China-_- wrote:Formal Country Name: Republic of China
Capital: Nanking
Seat of Central Government: Taipei
Population: 2.48 Billion
Head of State: Chiang Hsiao-hua
Head of Government: See Head of State
Form of Government: Presidential Parliamentary Democracy
Economic System: State Capitalism
Military Size (active): 490 000
Reason for Joining IFA: To proactive engage with likeminded colleagues in maintaining peace and prosperity in the world.
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): Centre-Right
Is your Government by the people (exercised either directly or through elected representatives)? Yes
What other military alliances are you a part of: None
Representative to the IFA Council: Hua Kuo-cheng


Accepted!
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Thalsyer
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Founded: Mar 03, 2014
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Postby Thalsyer » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:13 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Thalsyer wrote:
I know who some members are. Other people may as well. They still committed international crimes. Are you saying that because they changed the name of their alliance that suddenly that just all goes away like *poof* and is forgiven despite an active law lamenting those actions? Did we not condemn the alliance but mean the member nations in the alliance too? You are a good leader but we have rules that we must follow.


I have been under the impression that UAS is a more moderate alliance that rejects the embrace of fascism that the OEN had. I am hoping that UAS truly represents a more moderate alliance than OEN was. If that's not the case, obviously nothing can't go forward. The thing is we are only exploring options at the moment. Honestly, the best alliance suited for cooperation is the Western Coalition, but they haven't been very active in responding to cooperation offers. I would like to explore what this UAS represents, cooperation with Axis, support of Fascism will turn them away from any such statement.


That is stupid. What if we do go on with cooperation and your hope is proven wrong? Bratislav, we have members that are members of the United Left and/or the Convist Union. What if the alliance relations blew up? Our members would be pulled every other way and the IFA could very well splinter and crumble. Am I the only one thinking of the IFA over a ideological rivalry? Your idea is bad in general.

Beside why would you pick the OEN-spinoff over the UL or a stronger concrete alliance like the western coalition? The UAS(their name right now) barely has any credibility because the membership just split their last alliance because they abandoned a war when the pressure started to build.

Now about the resolution violation Bratislav you still violated Resolution #3 because you expressed interest and took a first step in pursuing cooperation with known members of the OEN alliance. There was no stipulation in Resolution #3 that says it would become nullified if the alliance broke apart. Jordslag and Jazakstan were leaders in the OEN and both nations ICly have membership in the UAS. You knew this and you still went on a path to try and set up relations with the OEN-spinoff alliance(the UAS). In my POV, you violated resolution 3. You know what that means.
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Vangaziland
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Postby Vangaziland » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:14 pm



Hans Gudden, the FM, will be attending this event..

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The New United States
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Postby The New United States » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:19 pm

Formal Country Name: The Republic of the New United States
Capital: New Columbia
Population: 14,603,429
Head of State: President Amerigo Apostolakos
Head of Government: President Amerigo Apostolakos
Form of Government: Federal-Republic
Economic System: Free-Market
Military Size (active): 102,400
Reason for Joining IFA: In order to support my brothers in the fight for freedom and democracy around the world.
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): Right-wing, as there is no considerable left-wing presence.
Is your Government by the people (exercised either directly or through elected representatives)? Yes, through elected representatives.
What other military alliances are you a part of: None
Representative to the IFA Council: Martin William English, Foreign Service Officer, Department of Foreign Affairs, The New United States

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Asigna
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Postby Asigna » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:20 pm

Thalsyer wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
I have been under the impression that UAS is a more moderate alliance that rejects the embrace of fascism that the OEN had. I am hoping that UAS truly represents a more moderate alliance than OEN was. If that's not the case, obviously nothing can't go forward. The thing is we are only exploring options at the moment. Honestly, the best alliance suited for cooperation is the Western Coalition, but they haven't been very active in responding to cooperation offers. I would like to explore what this UAS represents, cooperation with Axis, support of Fascism will turn them away from any such statement.


That is stupid. What if we do go on with cooperation and your hope is proven wrong? Bratislav, we have members that are members of the United Left and/or the Convist Union. What if the alliance relations blew up? Our members would be pulled every other way and the IFA could very well splinter and crumble. Am I the only one thinking of the IFA over a ideological rivalry? Your idea is bad in general.

Beside why would you pick the OEN-spinoff over the UL or a stronger concrete alliance like the western coalition? The UAS(their name right now) barely has any credibility because the membership just split their last alliance because they abandoned a war when the pressure started to build.

Now about the resolution violation Bratislav you still violated Resolution #3 because you expressed interest and took a first step in pursuing cooperation with known members of the OEN alliance. There was no stipulation in Resolution #3 that says it would become nullified if the alliance broke apart. Jordslag and Jazakstan were leaders in the OEN and both nations ICly have membership in the UAS. You knew this and you still went on a path to try and set up relations with the OEN-spinoff alliance(the UAS). In my POV, you violated resolution 3. You know what that means.



What do you want...peace or war?

Your choice. We are ready for both..but we want peace.
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Bratislav
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Postby Bratislav » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:23 pm

Thalsyer wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
I have been under the impression that UAS is a more moderate alliance that rejects the embrace of fascism that the OEN had. I am hoping that UAS truly represents a more moderate alliance than OEN was. If that's not the case, obviously nothing can't go forward. The thing is we are only exploring options at the moment. Honestly, the best alliance suited for cooperation is the Western Coalition, but they haven't been very active in responding to cooperation offers. I would like to explore what this UAS represents, cooperation with Axis, support of Fascism will turn them away from any such statement.


That is stupid. What if we do go on with cooperation and your hope is proven wrong? Bratislav, we have members that are members of the United Left and/or the Convist Union. What if the alliance relations blew up? Our members would be pulled every other way and the IFA could very well splinter and crumble. Am I the only one thinking of the IFA over a ideological rivalry? Your idea is bad in general.

Beside why would you pick the OEN-spinoff over the UL or a stronger concrete alliance like the western coalition? The UAS(their name right now) barely has any credibility because the membership just split their last alliance because they abandoned a war when the pressure started to build.

Now about the resolution violation Bratislav you still violated Resolution #3 because you expressed interest and took a first step in pursuing cooperation with known members of the OEN alliance. There was no stipulation in Resolution #3 that says it would become nullified if the alliance broke apart. Jordslag and Jazakstan were leaders in the OEN and both nations ICly have membership in the UAS. You knew this and you still went on a path to try and set up relations with the OEN-spinoff alliance(the UAS). In my POV, you violated resolution 3. You know what that means.


My first choice in cooperation would be with the WC, no doubt. I never have promised nor stated that we will have cooperation with UAS. I said we were in an exploratory stage with many alliances including the UAS. We firstly want to assess the UAS, what their goals are, if they are moderate, and so forth. This goes for all the alliances that will be at the Summit.

As for the resolution, my impression was that it specifically targeted the OEN which was sympathetic to Fascist elements. Given that alliance dissolved, it makes the resolution difficult to implement, especially since it seems that UAS is supposed to be more moderate. Again everything is in an exploratory phase, there's nothing concrete yet.
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Thalsyer
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Founded: Mar 03, 2014
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Postby Thalsyer » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:31 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Thalsyer wrote:
That is stupid. What if we do go on with cooperation and your hope is proven wrong? Bratislav, we have members that are members of the United Left and/or the Convist Union. What if the alliance relations blew up? Our members would be pulled every other way and the IFA could very well splinter and crumble. Am I the only one thinking of the IFA over a ideological rivalry? Your idea is bad in general.

Beside why would you pick the OEN-spinoff over the UL or a stronger concrete alliance like the western coalition? The UAS(their name right now) barely has any credibility because the membership just split their last alliance because they abandoned a war when the pressure started to build.

Now about the resolution violation Bratislav you still violated Resolution #3 because you expressed interest and took a first step in pursuing cooperation with known members of the OEN alliance. There was no stipulation in Resolution #3 that says it would become nullified if the alliance broke apart. Jordslag and Jazakstan were leaders in the OEN and both nations ICly have membership in the UAS. You knew this and you still went on a path to try and set up relations with the OEN-spinoff alliance(the UAS). In my POV, you violated resolution 3. You know what that means.


My first choice in cooperation would be with the WC, no doubt. I never have promised nor stated that we will have cooperation with UAS. I said we were in an exploratory stage with many alliances including the UAS. We firstly want to assess the UAS, what their goals are, if they are moderate, and so forth. This goes for all the alliances that will be at the Summit.

As for the resolution, my impression was that it specifically targeted the OEN which was sympathetic to Fascist elements. Given that alliance dissolved, it makes the resolution difficult to implement, especially since it seems that UAS is supposed to be more moderate. Again everything is in an exploratory phase, there's nothing concrete yet.


Rules are rules. You made up the resolution.. not me. If I have to be the bearer then I will write up the resolution then. With your explanation dear leader it is most likely you just committed a minor offense. After the resolution about you, how about we repeal resolution 3 so it is not an issue anymore? :P

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The United Motherland
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Founded: Sep 10, 2013
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Postby The United Motherland » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:32 pm

Thalsyer wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
My first choice in cooperation would be with the WC, no doubt. I never have promised nor stated that we will have cooperation with UAS. I said we were in an exploratory stage with many alliances including the UAS. We firstly want to assess the UAS, what their goals are, if they are moderate, and so forth. This goes for all the alliances that will be at the Summit.

As for the resolution, my impression was that it specifically targeted the OEN which was sympathetic to Fascist elements. Given that alliance dissolved, it makes the resolution difficult to implement, especially since it seems that UAS is supposed to be more moderate. Again everything is in an exploratory phase, there's nothing concrete yet.


Rules are rules. You made up the resolution.. not me. If I have to be the bearer then I will write up the resolution then. With your explanation dear leader it is most likely you just committed a minor offense. After the resolution about you, how about we repeal resolution 3 so it is not an issue anymore? :P
I actually wrote the resolution.

But anyways, night.

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