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Postby Luziyca » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:54 pm

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Kay. :) I'm fine with the current system, it's just a harebrained idea. :P


But... But I wanted semi finals :geek:

Yeah. I don't really want it, but I feel it can curb the tide a little bit.
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Postby Kingsley Bedford » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:59 pm

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Ok that's it! No Semi finals :P


Kay. :) I'm fine with the current system, it's just a harebrained idea. :P


I was joking when I said that..
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Postby Luziyca » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:01 pm

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Kay. :) I'm fine with the current system, it's just a harebrained idea. :P


I was joking when I said that..

I see. Sometimes, I cannot really tell...
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Postby Kingsley Bedford » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:06 pm

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I was joking when I said that..

I see. Sometimes, I cannot really tell...


That's what the :p smiley means... I'm joking.

If you look at what I quoted when I said that, you'll understand why I was joking
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Postby Euskirribakondara » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:08 pm

Polk.. Sure, the excitement of qualifying or not would make it awesomely interesting... BUT it is a tactical nightmare to organize such an event. That's our main problem. I'd be up for it (NO SCORINATION) but it would certainly last longer and be more difficult.
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Postby Kingsley Bedford » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:11 pm

Euskirribakondara wrote:Polk.. Sure, the excitement of qualifying or not would make it awesomely interesting... BUT it is a tactical nightmare to organize such an event. That's our main problem. I'd be up for it (NO SCORINATION) but it would certainly last longer and be more difficult.


That's our biggest hurdle and why it hasn't been implemented sooner. since the committee formed back in WV20 we have discussed the idea of semi finals but everytime we've agreed that it would be difficult and would only drag the contest on further, and in our opinion it already takes an average of 2 months.

And I'm against scorination. Look, we'll discuss it but I personally can't see it happening.
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Postby Kalosia » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:43 am

What? Semi-finals? Scorination? I leave for about 15 hours and I come back to see all this.

I don't really have an opinion on this... umm... maybe we could use the OOC idea Euski originally wanted to implement for WHF12 (I've edited it slightly):
Euskirribakondara wrote:Ok, so, people... Here's how it will work.

4. The current contest thread will now be known as a "draft thread" (a figure that from now on will be in ALL WHF editions). A "draft thread" will be made. This draft thread is meant for you to post your performances, and edit them as much as you want, change, tinker, etc.
5. The host will place a deadline in the draft thread. In that deadline, he'll take all that information and transport it by himself to the real contest thread.


Now, you might be wondering... What's the point of having a draft thread and a contest thread?

Well, it's very simple:
1 - The host will have total control over what is posted (and in which order) in the contest thread, making everything look more pretty and organized, with the postcards, the intervals, and everything. (Take note that the host will not be able to change a performance itself, just add or substract things after it, or before it. However, the host may suggest a few changes to the respective writer of the performance, if he/she feels there's actually something to add).
2 - The other participants will only be able to post commentary in the "clean" contest thread; but since there will be an organized, updated, complete, information; there will no longer exist those "to be updated when performance is completed".
3 - This will also enable the host to provide a week of constant, daily RPing for all of you... Which will hopefully be rather more interesting than waiting around for someone to post.
4 - The pass between 'draft' and 'contest' thread will work as a filter for incomplete placeholders or zero-quality RPings.

This all emulates Eurovision's tradition of handing over songs before the actual contest takes place. This will also mean that a running order will be sorted out.

Of course, this will mean there are 3 Contest threads (2 semifinals + 1 final), unless you want 1 contest thread for all 3 shows, and 1 draft thread (for everyone to post, since it doesn't have any IC effect). Regarding the voting, countries participating in that semi-final should submit their votes to the WorldVision committee, which then inform the host on the 10 countries that qualify for the final. In the contest grand final thread, the host will post the entries of the nations and then people can start posting their votes.


Also, last night I saw this Malaysian-Indonesian friendship concert on TV and the stage design was somehow similar to the WV27 stage and one of the songs performed was the song which Fromulya's WV27 entry was based on and it felt like watching WV lol
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Postby Kingsley Bedford » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:46 am

Kalosia wrote:What? Semi-finals? Scorination? I leave for about 15 hours and I come back to see all this.

I don't really have an opinion on this... umm... maybe we could use the OOC idea Euski originally wanted to implement for WHF12 (I've edited it slightly):
Euskirribakondara wrote:Ok, so, people... Here's how it will work.

4. The current contest thread will now be known as a "draft thread" (a figure that from now on will be in ALL WHF editions). A "draft thread" will be made. This draft thread is meant for you to post your performances, and edit them as much as you want, change, tinker, etc.
5. The host will place a deadline in the draft thread. In that deadline, he'll take all that information and transport it by himself to the real contest thread.


Now, you might be wondering... What's the point of having a draft thread and a contest thread?

Well, it's very simple:
1 - The host will have total control over what is posted (and in which order) in the contest thread, making everything look more pretty and organized, with the postcards, the intervals, and everything. (Take note that the host will not be able to change a performance itself, just add or substract things after it, or before it. However, the host may suggest a few changes to the respective writer of the performance, if he/she feels there's actually something to add).
2 - The other participants will only be able to post commentary in the "clean" contest thread; but since there will be an organized, updated, complete, information; there will no longer exist those "to be updated when performance is completed".
3 - This will also enable the host to provide a week of constant, daily RPing for all of you... Which will hopefully be rather more interesting than waiting around for someone to post.
4 - The pass between 'draft' and 'contest' thread will work as a filter for incomplete placeholders or zero-quality RPings.

This all emulates Eurovision's tradition of handing over songs before the actual contest takes place. This will also mean that a running order will be sorted out.

Of course, this will mean there are 3 Contest threads (2 semifinals + 1 final), unless you want 1 contest thread for all 3 shows, and 1 draft thread (for everyone to post, since it doesn't have any IC effect). Regarding the voting, countries participating in that semi-final should submit their votes to the WorldVision committee, which then inform the host on the 10 countries that qualify for the final. In the contest grand final thread, the host will post the entries of the nations and then people can start posting their votes.


Also, last night I saw this Malaysian-Indonesian friendship concert on TV and the stage design was somehow similar to the WV27 stage and one of the songs performed was the song which Fromulya's WV27 entry was based on and it felt like watching WV lol


I'm sorry but that suggestion is out of the question, because that's WHF's format. Not WV, we have to keep the contests different.
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Postby WorldVision Committee » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:41 am

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Postby Worszary » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:25 am

I'm changing my entry once again; ICly Janina Liesl has withdrawn her entry, because she wants to focus her study. Or something like that.

The respected band Beiglasfenster has offered to go instead. WFR accepted their offer, Beiglasfenster's song is called "Was haben wir gemacht?" (the title is in German, the lyrics of the song are in Worsarian) The song is already immensely popular in Worszary: it entered the iTunes charts at spot 1, which is something that has not happened before with a WorldVision song (Scegliere, Hypnöhser both entered the charts at no. 2, to climb to spot one in a later stage; Volcano never got any higher than spot 2).
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Postby Worszary » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:32 am

I love the idea of semifinals personally, but I think that it's just not going to work.

Also, in case we introduce the semifinals: I am totally against the idea of the Committee having a spot in the final already, I would personally hate that, it would make participating incredibly boring for me. Instead, just let the top 5 of the previous edition qualify for the final already.
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Postby Kalusia » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:06 am

Worszary wrote:I'm changing my entry once again; ICly Janina Liesl has withdrawn her entry, because she wants to focus her study. Or something like that.

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Postby The Atlammes » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:10 am

The idea of semifinals in WV can work, because there are about 40 participants in edition. It's true that it could last much longer but we would have more fun.

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Postby Luziyca » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:13 am

Kingsley Bedford wrote:
Luziyca wrote:I see. Sometimes, I cannot really tell...


That's what the :p smiley means... I'm joking.

If you look at what I quoted when I said that, you'll understand why I was joking

Ah. I was a bit tired. ;)
Worszary wrote:I love the idea of semifinals personally, but I think that it's just not going to work.

Also, in case we introduce the semifinals: I am totally against the idea of the Committee having a spot in the final already, I would personally hate that, it would make participating incredibly boring for me. Instead, just let the top 5 of the previous edition qualify for the final already.

For me, the top 10 in the last final will have a spot in the next final, while the top 10 in the semifinals will enter the finals, plus host and WV committee...

Kalosia wrote:What? Semi-finals? Scorination? I leave for about 15 hours and I come back to see all this.

I don't really have an opinion on this... umm... maybe we could use the OOC idea Euski originally wanted to implement for WHF12 (I've edited it slightly):
Euskirribakondara wrote:Ok, so, people... Here's how it will work.

4. The current contest thread will now be known as a "draft thread" (a figure that from now on will be in ALL WHF editions). A "draft thread" will be made. This draft thread is meant for you to post your performances, and edit them as much as you want, change, tinker, etc.
5. The host will place a deadline in the draft thread. In that deadline, he'll take all that information and transport it by himself to the real contest thread.


Now, you might be wondering... What's the point of having a draft thread and a contest thread?

Well, it's very simple:
1 - The host will have total control over what is posted (and in which order) in the contest thread, making everything look more pretty and organized, with the postcards, the intervals, and everything. (Take note that the host will not be able to change a performance itself, just add or substract things after it, or before it. However, the host may suggest a few changes to the respective writer of the performance, if he/she feels there's actually something to add).
2 - The other participants will only be able to post commentary in the "clean" contest thread; but since there will be an organized, updated, complete, information; there will no longer exist those "to be updated when performance is completed".
3 - This will also enable the host to provide a week of constant, daily RPing for all of you... Which will hopefully be rather more interesting than waiting around for someone to post.
4 - The pass between 'draft' and 'contest' thread will work as a filter for incomplete placeholders or zero-quality RPings.

This all emulates Eurovision's tradition of handing over songs before the actual contest takes place. This will also mean that a running order will be sorted out.

Of course, this will mean there are 3 Contest threads (2 semifinals + 1 final), unless you want 1 contest thread for all 3 shows, and 1 draft thread (for everyone to post, since it doesn't have any IC effect). Regarding the voting, countries participating in that semi-final should submit their votes to the WorldVision committee, which then inform the host on the 10 countries that qualify for the final. In the contest grand final thread, the host will post the entries of the nations and then people can start posting their votes.


Also, last night I saw this Malaysian-Indonesian friendship concert on TV and the stage design was somehow similar to the WV27 stage and one of the songs performed was the song which Fromulya's WV27 entry was based on and it felt like watching WV lol


I do not want the guys who organize WHF to report WV to the mods and have it locked, tyvm.
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Postby Anollasia » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:17 am

Okay, back in Canada now where I have Internet, so I can actually participate this time.

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Postby Luziyca » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:30 am

Anollasia wrote:Okay, back in Canada now where I have Internet, so I can actually participate this time.

Welcome back to the Dominion! :D
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Postby Anollasia » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:36 am

Luziyca wrote:
Anollasia wrote:Okay, back in Canada now where I have Internet, so I can actually participate this time.

Welcome back to the Dominion! :D

Thank you :p

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Postby The Royal Kingdom of Quebec » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:38 am

Anollasia wrote:Okay, back in Canada now where I have Internet, so I can actually participate this time.

Welcome back, Anoll :hug:
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Postby Crolacia » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:40 am

Anollasia wrote:Okay, back in Canada now where I have Internet, so I can actually participate this time.


Wlcome back mateeee!

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Postby Anollasia » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:47 am

The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:
Anollasia wrote:Okay, back in Canada now where I have Internet, so I can actually participate this time.

Welcome back, Anoll :hug:


:hug:

Crolacia wrote:
Anollasia wrote:Okay, back in Canada now where I have Internet, so I can actually participate this time.


Wlcome back mateeee!


Thanks

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Postby Alexandr Land » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:52 am

Why the majority lives in Canada? >:(
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Postby Kalosia » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:53 am

Luziyca wrote:
Kalosia wrote:What? Semi-finals? Scorination? I leave for about 15 hours and I come back to see all this.

I don't really have an opinion on this... umm... maybe we could use the OOC idea Euski originally wanted to implement for WHF12 (I've edited it slightly):
Of course, this will mean there are 3 Contest threads (2 semifinals + 1 final), unless you want 1 contest thread for all 3 shows, and 1 draft thread (for everyone to post, since it doesn't have any IC effect). Regarding the voting, countries participating in that semi-final should submit their votes to the WorldVision committee, which then inform the host on the 10 countries that qualify for the final. In the contest grand final thread, the host will post the entries of the nations and then people can start posting their votes.


Also, last night I saw this Malaysian-Indonesian friendship concert on TV and the stage design was somehow similar to the WV27 stage and one of the songs performed was the song which Fromulya's WV27 entry was based on and it felt like watching WV lol


I do not want the guys who organize WHF to report WV to the mods and have it locked, tyvm.

Except the guy who organizes WHF is making their comeback after their few months on hiatus. But yeah, remembering that the reason WHF could exist was because it was different from WV, this shouldn't happen, I guess. I'm sure there must be another way... or none at all.
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Postby Acathey » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:56 am

Me! I'm in! Will post my entry details later. :D
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Postby Luziyca » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:57 am

Alexandr Land wrote:Why the majority lives in Canada? >:(

Nah, just the active WVers. For example, most of the WVC lives in Europe, but I bet most of the participants actually come from the USA.
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Postby Crolacia » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:58 am

Alexandr Land wrote:Why the majority lives in Canada? >:(

Only 3 guys live in Canada. Most of us actually come from Europe.

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