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Should swastika be restored to original glory which was misused by Hitler

Yes
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67%
No
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Total votes : 30

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ARYAN EMP
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Launch the holy Swastika

Postby ARYAN EMP » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:56 pm

When I wrote the thread " Stand against the ban on Swastika" , The game moderators have unjustly locked the thread, with out knowing the opinion of the others.
As a representative of Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism I complain that this activity of the game moderators has hurt our religious sentiments.

I have also read the rule,
The rule says that because Hitler had used Swastika as his flag, the Swastika can hurt sentiments and can remind of them about Holocaust
But it is history, and now people are accepting new and original ideas so what is the harm in knowing the actual idea behind the swastika.
I also plead not to lock this thread because i want to know the actual opinion of all the nations


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ROYAL INDUS
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Founded: Jun 04, 2013
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Postby ROYAL INDUS » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:10 am

I fully accept the content and my opinion is to restore the swastika

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Eucadian Federation
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Postby Eucadian Federation » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:15 am

In the name of ancient and religious culture, I approve of this as well.

But,

SO long as it is not used in an offensive way.
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The Tiger Kingdom
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:16 am

The creator of this site has made this extraordinarily clear that it's not up for debate.
And the OP should quit puppetwanking.
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Postby Brocwika » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:17 am

The swastika, along with toothbrush mustache, MUST be restored
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Postby Eucadian Federation » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:18 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:The creator of this site has made this extraordinarily clear that it's not up for debate.
And the OP should quit puppetwanking.

I lol'd really loud at that
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ARYAN EMP
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Postby ARYAN EMP » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:18 am

Eucadian Federation wrote:In the name of ancient and religious culture, I approve of this as well.

But,

SO long as it is not used in an offensive way.



I appreciate your effort and accept your opinion
Thank You

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The Eurasian Front
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Postby The Eurasian Front » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:19 am

Lifting the ban will only open the symbol up to fresh abuses from regions like the 'Greater' German Reich. Keep it off flags.

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ARYAN EMP
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Postby ARYAN EMP » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:19 am

Brocwika wrote:The swastika, along with toothbrush mustache, MUST be restored



Thank You Brother

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With Teeth
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Postby With Teeth » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:20 am

I voted no because I thought it would be fun.
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Eoghania
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Postby Eoghania » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:20 am

OOC: NationStates is IC, so "the mods" don't exist. Post in a different forum to discuss site stuff. But as a free lesson, reread what was said to you before - Max owns the site and he says no, until he changes his mind it will never be permitted here. Whatever a swastika is meant to stand for, most of the world sees it only as a symbol of Nazi Germany now.
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The Tiger Kingdom
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:21 am

Eucadian Federation wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:The creator of this site has made this extraordinarily clear that it's not up for debate.
And the OP should quit puppetwanking.

I lol'd really loud at that

Thanks, man.

And OP, I don't appreciate not being thanked for giving my opinion.
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Postby ARYAN EMP » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:21 am

The Eurasian Front wrote:Lifting the ban will only open the symbol up to fresh abuses from regions like the 'Greater' German Reich. Keep it off flags.


Understand Brother it will not be so

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Eucadian Federation
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Postby Eucadian Federation » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:21 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Eucadian Federation wrote:I lol'd really loud at that

Thanks, man.

And OP, I don't appreciate not being thanked for giving my opinion.

Oh damn... Here we go!
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Postby United Furry Alliance » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:22 am

My opinion is that the symbol be used only for religious purposes and any use of it relating to Nazi ideals remain banned.
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Meryuma
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Postby Meryuma » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:23 am

Indo-Iranian peoples should get their symbolism back.

However, this thread/this issue will never end well here.
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The United Earth Conclave
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Postby The United Earth Conclave » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:27 am

The swasttika to the majority of people that actually know about this symbol i.e Jains, Hindus and Buddhists already use it. The only people that think the Swastika is offensive are the people who are ignorant towards it. The only people that use it as a sign of offensive ideology are fringe neo nazi groups which already teeter on the brink of extinction

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ARYAN EMP
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Postby ARYAN EMP » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:28 am

United Furry Alliance wrote:My opinion is that the symbol be used only for religious purposes and any use of it relating to Nazi ideals remain banned.


This is a good idea

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The Tiger Kingdom
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:30 am

The United Earth Conclave wrote:The swasttika to the majority of people that actually know about this symbol i.e Jains, Hindus and Buddhists already use it. The only people that think the Swastika is offensive are the people who are ignorant towards it.

Nope. They know exactly what it meant in practicality.
Way to call the majority of polite society ignorant.
The United Earth Conclave wrote:The only people that use it as a sign of offensive ideology are fringe neo nazi groups which already teeter on the brink of extinction

...And, you know, the Nazis themselves, who used it as a symbol of their regime as they slaughtered millions. As a result, a fuckload of people would rather not see it again. Can't really blame them.
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Postby Testonia3422 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:32 am

there are optical differences between hitler's hakenkreuz and the indian one, swastika is not = swastika. so the game should adopt at least the indian one. i'm german and i wouldn't use that symbols that shitler messed up. but i think in this - political - game EVERY symbol should be allowed. ss runes (hitler did not invented the symbol, germanic tribes did a long time ago) or hakenkreuz (originally indian) or sonnenrad (also invented by germanics a long time ago) or whatever.

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Postby New haven america » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:33 am

As long as it doesn't look like a Nazi flag, I'd be fine with it.(I was thinking of making my flag a swatstika a couple months aog' but changed my mind after reading the rules)
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Postby Awesome Break-Away of 250land » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:33 am

I remember once a family got in trouble for spray painting one on their roof,
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ARYAN EMP
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Postby ARYAN EMP » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:33 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
The United Earth Conclave wrote:The swasttika to the majority of people that actually know about this symbol i.e Jains, Hindus and Buddhists already use it. The only people that think the Swastika is offensive are the people who are ignorant towards it.

Nope. They know exactly what it meant in practicality.
Way to call the majority of polite society ignorant.
The United Earth Conclave wrote:The only people that use it as a sign of offensive ideology are fringe neo nazi groups which already teeter on the brink of extinction

...And, you know, the Nazis themselves, who used it as a symbol of their regime as they slaughtered millions. As a result, a fuckload of people would rather not see it again. Can't really blame them.


The Hindu Buddhist Jain And Sikh concepts about the Swastika is not same as that of the Nazis
You may follow the link on my post to understand it

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ARYAN EMP
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Postby ARYAN EMP » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:35 am

Testonia3422 wrote:there are optical differences between hitler's hakenkreuz and the indian one, swastika is not = swastika. so the game should adopt at least the indian one. i'm german and i wouldn't use that symbols that shitler messed up. but i think in this - political - game EVERY symbol should be allowed. ss runes (hitler did not invented the symbol, germanic tribes did a long time ago) or hakenkreuz (originally indian) or sonnenrad (also invented by germanics a long time ago) or whatever.


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Postby Aravea » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:36 am

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