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The Blazing Aura
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Libertarian Police State

Postby The Blazing Aura » Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:39 am

Mishmahig wrote:
Acroticus wrote:
You have thousands of miles of shore, as well as docks that lead to major cities I would guess. Unless you need an ID card to walk from a boat to the city (which I would guess you wouldn't, as trade is a big part of Kherkovian society due to your trade deficit), so if you refused to let many traders in, you'd basically be a third world country....


Also, if ID cards are such an integral part of Kherkovian society, then any decent spy agency would be able to falsify one, or at least fake one closely enough that it passes a visual inspection. I doubt every Kherkovian guard will be so diligent as to carefully examine or check every ID card he sees (nor do I think that guards stop every person walking down a street).

For example, in the Dominion, everyone is issued an emergency medical card that, when scanned, lists their name, their medical information, and their next of kin/guardian. It passes as an ID card for most corporations, and similarly for government agencies (albeit with some more stringent practices for higher security areas, of course). There are alternative forms of identification, but the medical card is the most convenient for the majority of the population.

I would easily expect Zgrajan spies or Auran spies to be able to enter the country and obtain or falsify their own medical card--or even one from a recently deceased person. If they were ever asked to provide identification, any policeman would simply take down their bar-coded information for a follow-up investigation (if they were witnesses to a crime) and wouldn't realize the fake identity until it was entered into police databases during the investigation.


Unless the Auran spy was the policeman :twisted:
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Kherkov
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Kherkov » Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:03 am

Mishmahig wrote:
Acroticus wrote:
You have thousands of miles of shore, as well as docks that lead to major cities I would guess. Unless you need an ID card to walk from a boat to the city (which I would guess you wouldn't, as trade is a big part of Kherkovian society due to your trade deficit), so if you refused to let many traders in, you'd basically be a third world country....


Also, if ID cards are such an integral part of Kherkovian society, then any decent spy agency would be able to falsify one, or at least fake one closely enough that it passes a visual inspection. I doubt every Kherkovian guard will be so diligent as to carefully examine or check every ID card he sees (nor do I think that guards stop every person walking down a street).

For example, in the Dominion, everyone is issued an emergency medical card that, when scanned, lists their name, their medical information, and their next of kin/guardian. It passes as an ID card for most corporations, and similarly for government agencies (albeit with some more stringent practices for higher security areas, of course). There are alternative forms of identification, but the medical card is the most convenient for the majority of the population.

I would easily expect Zgrajan spies or Auran spies to be able to enter the country and obtain or falsify their own medical card--or even one from a recently deceased person. If they were ever asked to provide identification, any policeman would simply take down their bar-coded information for a follow-up investigation (if they were witnesses to a crime) and wouldn't realize the fake identity until it was entered into police databases during the investigation.


ID cards are used basically like security cards: there are ports that you swipe the ID card down on. These ports are present when you want to enter certain areas. Tourists and the like are issued guest ID cards for their stay. I wouldn't recommend falsifying one as then the database would not register the card to a citizen. Hacking the database would be extremely difficult. What I would recommend is perhaps taking one whilst there and then doing something with the spy's appearance.
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Acroticus
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Acroticus » Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:57 am

Kherkov wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:
Also, if ID cards are such an integral part of Kherkovian society, then any decent spy agency would be able to falsify one, or at least fake one closely enough that it passes a visual inspection. I doubt every Kherkovian guard will be so diligent as to carefully examine or check every ID card he sees (nor do I think that guards stop every person walking down a street).

For example, in the Dominion, everyone is issued an emergency medical card that, when scanned, lists their name, their medical information, and their next of kin/guardian. It passes as an ID card for most corporations, and similarly for government agencies (albeit with some more stringent practices for higher security areas, of course). There are alternative forms of identification, but the medical card is the most convenient for the majority of the population.

I would easily expect Zgrajan spies or Auran spies to be able to enter the country and obtain or falsify their own medical card--or even one from a recently deceased person. If they were ever asked to provide identification, any policeman would simply take down their bar-coded information for a follow-up investigation (if they were witnesses to a crime) and wouldn't realize the fake identity until it was entered into police databases during the investigation.


ID cards are used basically like security cards: there are ports that you swipe the ID card down on. These ports are present when you want to enter certain areas. Tourists and the like are issued guest ID cards for their stay. I wouldn't recommend falsifying one as then the database would not register the card to a citizen. Hacking the database would be extremely difficult. What I would recommend is perhaps taking one whilst there and then doing something with the spy's appearance.


Well I suppose there is a decent sized Kherkovian countryside, no? Here's the plan: first spy gets on some tiny ship, looking like it is headed for Leo X; rowboat is released, and spy washes up on shore. Second spy does the same thing. Together, they find and murder a farmer. One spy then uses plastic surgery to change the second spy's face and body to match the farmer. They take his ID card, and boom! You've got yourself a Kherkovian farmer spy!!!

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The Blazing Aura
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Libertarian Police State

Postby The Blazing Aura » Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:01 am

Acroticus wrote:
Kherkov wrote:
ID cards are used basically like security cards: there are ports that you swipe the ID card down on. These ports are present when you want to enter certain areas. Tourists and the like are issued guest ID cards for their stay. I wouldn't recommend falsifying one as then the database would not register the card to a citizen. Hacking the database would be extremely difficult. What I would recommend is perhaps taking one whilst there and then doing something with the spy's appearance.


Well I suppose there is a decent sized Kherkovian countryside, no? Here's the plan: first spy gets on some tiny ship, looking like it is headed for Leo X; rowboat is released, and spy washes up on shore. Second spy does the same thing. Together, they find and murder a farmer. One spy then uses plastic surgery to change the second spy's face and body to match the farmer. They take his ID card, and boom! You've got yourself a Kherkovian farmer spy!!!


Slightly easier tactic, use money to bribe Kerkovians to work for you, that old guy who cleans the toilets in the government buildings? Been reporting stuff to us for years.
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The Blazing Aura wrote:aah f***

Nice 3000'th post.

that just makes it better.

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Kherkov
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Founded: May 13, 2012
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Kherkov » Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:17 am

The Blazing Aura wrote:
Acroticus wrote:
Well I suppose there is a decent sized Kherkovian countryside, no? Here's the plan: first spy gets on some tiny ship, looking like it is headed for Leo X; rowboat is released, and spy washes up on shore. Second spy does the same thing. Together, they find and murder a farmer. One spy then uses plastic surgery to change the second spy's face and body to match the farmer. They take his ID card, and boom! You've got yourself a Kherkovian farmer spy!!!


Slightly easier tactic, use money to bribe Kerkovians to work for you, that old guy who cleans the toilets in the government buildings? Been reporting stuff to us for years.


"This secret national document? I'll just leave it here. I'm sure that the cleaner won't read it."

I don't think so...
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Kherkov
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Kherkov » Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:18 am

Acroticus wrote:
Kherkov wrote:
ID cards are used basically like security cards: there are ports that you swipe the ID card down on. These ports are present when you want to enter certain areas. Tourists and the like are issued guest ID cards for their stay. I wouldn't recommend falsifying one as then the database would not register the card to a citizen. Hacking the database would be extremely difficult. What I would recommend is perhaps taking one whilst there and then doing something with the spy's appearance.


Well I suppose there is a decent sized Kherkovian countryside, no? Here's the plan: first spy gets on some tiny ship, looking like it is headed for Leo X; rowboat is released, and spy washes up on shore. Second spy does the same thing. Together, they find and murder a farmer. One spy then uses plastic surgery to change the second spy's face and body to match the farmer. They take his ID card, and boom! You've got yourself a Kherkovian farmer spy!!!


Lol, fair enough... well, if in your next post just detail about what they're doing I will respond as the farmer or whatever.
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