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Vilkar
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Postby Vilkar » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:00 pm

What I know so far about the story (from my sleep-deprived mind) is that the Global Justice Unit (GJU) are a multinational counter-terrorist/crime-fighting organization made by the Olweans.

So far, we don't have much of a story. Most of the characters we've made so far are for the GJU and I think I have the only one in the evil organization we've yet to make, let alone name.

I think that's the just of it. Anything else you guys and gals could add to that?
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:30 pm

Castle Inc wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Again, I'm volunteering one of my AACs. They can go over land, so no worries there; most of them can support small and medium civilian airliners, so MT souldn't be out; and CSW soldiers would run it offscreen, so ops wouldn't detract from roleplay.

Whats the specs on one of those

*shrugs* Dunno. I've only ever come up with stats for one class. And it might be possible to make this an international project instead—I provide hull, certain systems and crew; UEG could provide power (I'm guessing his fusion's more advanced than mine) and probably one or two other things; other people weapons, transport depending on what the nation's good at, with the whole project under command of the GJU. No restrictions from tech level or access to water, since you'd only need an airport or helipad to get to it.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:53 pm

So what happened?

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:05 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:So what happened?

Well, I think most of us have decided that using a spaceship as the GJU base isn't a very good idea, and then we started discussing alternate ideas.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:09 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
The Unified Earth Governments wrote:So what happened?

Well, I think most of us have decided that using a spaceship as the GJU base isn't a very good idea, and then we started discussing alternate ideas.

How about a base worked on by all involved parties, with a Pelican for transportation?

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:12 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Well, I think most of us have decided that using a spaceship as the GJU base isn't a very good idea, and then we started discussing alternate ideas.

How about a base worked on by all involved parties, with a Pelican for transportation?

I suggested the same thing.

I still posit that the base should be able to fly around.
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Postby Olwe » Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:55 pm

Crystal Spires wrote:Here are my two cents:

We are going for an INFANTRY group, special OPS or if anything Light Infantry. We shouldn't be discussing anything NAVAL because it immediately takes the Character interaction out, and also makes it prohibitive to non-space, or even landlocked MT nations.


GI Joe seemed to get by just fine having naval characters (Shipwreck, Deep Six, I could probably go on but those are the two I thought of first), as well as pilots (Wild Bill comes to mind) and, yes, astronauts (Payload). This was never intended to be just a land unit... that would be far too limiting in terms of actually running the bad guys to ground and eliminating them, for one thing, and it would defeat your purpose of inclusivity by making only MT, landlocked nations eligible for another thing. Any Tech means all tech levels RPing together and completely ignoring any logistical issues that occur as a result of that... those logistical issues are being dwelled on way too much by a group that's supposed to be against even acknowledging logistical issues.

Wisconsin9 wrote:
The Unified Earth Governments wrote:How about a base worked on by all involved parties, with a Pelican for transportation?

I suggested the same thing.

I still posit that the base should be able to fly around.


Agreed. We need a joint consensus OOCly, and in order to accomplish that it needs to be a joint collaborative process ICly. And yes, it does need to be able to fly around, if only for convenience of getting the troops to where they actually need to be.

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Bereia wrote:The problem with running Any Tech is sometimes folks go overboard and make it Future Tech without even actively trying.

You know, I actually just had a thought: we don't actually need a space ship at all. I mean, it's the Global Justice Unit, right? We're not going to be bashing slavers on Mars or liberating concentration camps in Alpha Centauri.


Shit, I'm out if that's the case... Olwe isn't on NSEarth.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:59 pm

Olwe wrote:
Crystal Spires wrote:Here are my two cents:

We are going for an INFANTRY group, special OPS or if anything Light Infantry. We shouldn't be discussing anything NAVAL because it immediately takes the Character interaction out, and also makes it prohibitive to non-space, or even landlocked MT nations.


GI Joe seemed to get by just fine having naval characters (Shipwreck, Deep Six, I could probably go on but those are the two I thought of first), as well as pilots (Wild Bill comes to mind) and, yes, astronauts (Payload). This was never intended to be just a land unit... that would be far too limiting in terms of actually running the bad guys to ground and eliminating them, for one thing, and it would defeat your purpose of inclusivity by making only MT, landlocked nations eligible for another thing. Any Tech means all tech levels RPing together and completely ignoring any logistical issues that occur as a result of that... those logistical issues are being dwelled on way too much by a group that's supposed to be against even acknowledging logistical issues.

Wisconsin9 wrote:I suggested the same thing.

I still posit that the base should be able to fly around.


Agreed. We need a joint consensus OOCly, and in order to accomplish that it needs to be a joint collaborative process ICly. And yes, it does need to be able to fly around, if only for convenience of getting the troops to where they actually need to be.

Wisconsin9 wrote:You know, I actually just had a thought: we don't actually need a space ship at all. I mean, it's the Global Justice Unit, right? We're not going to be bashing slavers on Mars or liberating concentration camps in Alpha Centauri.


Shit, I'm out if that's the case... Olwe isn't on NSEarth.

Maybe some Olwean agency found NSEarth, then covertly infiltrated and took control of a relatively small government to keep an eye on us or something?
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Postby Estainia » Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:59 pm

What the hell are logistics? (Sarcasm)
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:01 pm

Theres that word again

NSEarth.........I hate that name to death.

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Postby Pavlostani » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:07 pm

Nation Name: Pavlostani
Preferred Tech Level(s): PT, MT, FT, Fantasy, Steampunk. I"m flexible.
Ideals (things seen as good): Socialism, Atheism, Donuts, Peace
Things frowned upon: Capitalism, Religion, Muffins, Genocide
Anything else we should know?

Pavlostani is a recently reformed nation, after committing a large genocide in the names of race. The new leader, a man named Vladimir Mirov is attempting to hold the nation together. The Pavlostani have nobility, and sanctioned tribal areas. We also have donuts. They are a pride of the nation, one of the only ones.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:08 pm

Pavlostani wrote:Nation Name: Pavlostani
Preferred Tech Level(s): PT, MT, FT, Fantasy, Steampunk. I"m flexible.
Ideals (things seen as good): Socialism, Atheism, Donuts, Peace
Things frowned upon: Capitalism, Religion, Muffins, Genocide
Anything else we should know?

Pavlostani is a recently reformed nation, after committing a large genocide in the names of race. The new leader, a man named Vladimir Mirov is attempting to hold the nation together. The Pavlostani have nobility, and sanctioned tribal areas. We also have donuts. They are a pride of the nation, one of the only ones.

I feel like we've RPed together before...

EDIT: Oh yeah, it was the Humanity Falling RP that basically just collapsed. Too bad, it had potential.
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Postby Sakarnen » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:13 pm

...so enlighten me please, what exacrly does NSEarth actually mean? I can't seem to be able to make sense of it.
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Postby Estainia » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:16 pm

Sakarnen wrote:...so enlighten me please, what exacrly does NSEarth actually mean? I can't seem to be able to make sense of it.


Every single NS region and nation on one planet.

Said planet would be around 2,000 times the size of the largest Jovian world we currently know of.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:17 pm

Sakarnen wrote:...so enlighten me please, what exacrly does NSEarth actually mean? I can't seem to be able to make sense of it.

It's this attempt to put every nation in all of NS on the same Earth or something.

It would work in theory.........IF NSEarth was a damn Shield World.

Hey, when are we going to do our RP.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:19 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Sakarnen wrote:...so enlighten me please, what exacrly does NSEarth actually mean? I can't seem to be able to make sense of it.

It's this attempt to put every nation in all of NS on the same Earth or something.

It would work in theory.........IF NSEarth was a damn Shield World.

Hey, when are we going to do our RP.

Presumably as soon as we can agree on what exactly we're going to do for a base.
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Postby Olwe » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:21 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Olwe wrote:
GI Joe seemed to get by just fine having naval characters (Shipwreck, Deep Six, I could probably go on but those are the two I thought of first), as well as pilots (Wild Bill comes to mind) and, yes, astronauts (Payload). This was never intended to be just a land unit... that would be far too limiting in terms of actually running the bad guys to ground and eliminating them, for one thing, and it would defeat your purpose of inclusivity by making only MT, landlocked nations eligible for another thing. Any Tech means all tech levels RPing together and completely ignoring any logistical issues that occur as a result of that... those logistical issues are being dwelled on way too much by a group that's supposed to be against even acknowledging logistical issues.



Agreed. We need a joint consensus OOCly, and in order to accomplish that it needs to be a joint collaborative process ICly. And yes, it does need to be able to fly around, if only for convenience of getting the troops to where they actually need to be.



Shit, I'm out if that's the case... Olwe isn't on NSEarth.

Maybe some Olwean agency found NSEarth, then covertly infiltrated and took control of a relatively small government to keep an eye on us or something?


Maybe, but it just occurred to me that Olwe controls territory on RL Earth (or Harry Potter Earth, at any rate). Who controls Peleliu on NSEarth?
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Tech levels incompatible? Then kick me out of the thread, because if you RP with me you accept my tech.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:21 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
The Unified Earth Governments wrote:It's this attempt to put every nation in all of NS on the same Earth or something.

It would work in theory.........IF NSEarth was a damn Shield World.

Hey, when are we going to do our RP.

Presumably as soon as we can agree on what exactly we're going to do for a base.

That wasn't directed towards you :eyebrow:

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Postby Sakarnen » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:22 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Presumably as soon as we can agree on what exactly we're going to do for a base.

That wasn't directed towards you :eyebrow:

I TG'd you.
Sakarnen is based on various bits and pieces from the Wheel of Time world. None of it necessarily represents my real life views.
Sakarnen is a FanT nation with a PMT-level technology.
Inhabitants from Sakarnen are referred to as Sakarnes. Anything else from Sakarnen is also referred to as Sakarne (thing).
I don't want to do any war RPs. Please don't declare war on me. If you want to settle any given issue diplomatically, do TG me. If you want to invent an issue to RP, TG me as well.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:22 pm

Olwe wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Maybe some Olwean agency found NSEarth, then covertly infiltrated and took control of a relatively small government to keep an eye on us or something?


Maybe, but it just occurred to me that Olwe controls territory on RL Earth (or Harry Potter Earth, at any rate). Who controls Peleliu on NSEarth?

I don't think it really matters, considering how many Americas and Nazi Germanies we have.

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Presumably as soon as we can agree on what exactly we're going to do for a base.

That wasn't directed towards you :eyebrow:

My bad, assumed you were talking about the GJU.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:25 pm

Sakarnen wrote:
The Unified Earth Governments wrote:That wasn't directed towards you :eyebrow:

I TG'd you.

You know it is completely unnecessary to post that.

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Postby Thoricia » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:29 pm

Urmanian wrote:Few tips, Castle:

1) Maximum depth seems way too high o_O Now I do not know the tech and materials used in making the hull but modern nuclear attack submarines would be crushed by pressure at depths of like 750 meters. Not that you would even HAVE to go to such depths.

2) An aircraft carrier this huge would have a much larger crew. A Nimitz has a crew of like 5,000. My 450 meter long carriers have the same complement requirements and they feature much more automatization than the Nimitz. It would need people to crew the ship, work its systems, provide amenities, tend the aircraft, fly the aircraft...

3) You should maybe include the power ratings of the fusion engines (this way the carrier's speed could also estimated more closely)

4) Just a minor technical thing: height is not usually something listed when listing the technical features of a naval vessel; draft (that is, the vertical distance between the waterline and the bottom of the hull (keel), basically the minimum depth of water a ship or boat can safely navigate) is what is usually considered relevant to the ship's performance, height is not really representative of anything in ships

5) Should include some weapons, if only defensive ones

sorry, I just love naval design :<

Input on weapons was something I was looking for, it is a late late PMT design so as far as materials it would be a type of composite I'll have to whip up, as far as crew a majority of items would be automated and as all of the planes are VTOL I wouldn't need the extras for a catapult system and I make a note on draft and beam from here on out. As far as power ratings erm it would be a fifty years from now engine so I'll do some comparing with modern designs and see if I can't theorize sumpin for you, do the submersible and plane deployments look within reasonish though.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:32 pm

So...now I only have one separate RP I can do, but the other guy isn't on right now I think.

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Castle Inc
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Postby Castle Inc » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:49 pm

The Robotech Expeditionary Force wrote:Yes, Castles a baddie.

Misunderstood is such a nicer term.
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Postby The Robotech Expeditionary Force » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:33 pm

Castle Inc wrote:
The Robotech Expeditionary Force wrote:Yes, Castles a baddie.

Misunderstood is such a nicer term.


Ok... A misunderstood baddie.

Also, like Owle, I'm also not on NSEarth, so I guess I should also drop out of the GJU. :(

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