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Postby Thoricia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:25 pm

Estainia wrote:Crush down summary of what I just missed please. ._.

Warnings handed out from Olwe about mindless spam so no more the hyper active Z-whatever kid was given the boot if you see him or his puppet Soratia (?) tell a MOD as Olwe has told him repeatedly to leave, we are now trying to hash out a base for the spec-ops team in the GI joe RP
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Postby Estainia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:26 pm

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Estainia wrote:Crush down summary of what I just missed please. ._.

Warnings handed out from Olwe about mindless spam so no more the hyper active Z-whatever kid was given the boot if you see him or his puppet Soratia (?) tell a MOD as Olwe has told him repeatedly to leave, we are now trying to hash out a base for the spec-ops team in the GI joe RP


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Postby Thoricia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:27 pm

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And if the base itself is going over seas, just activate a mass reduction unit and magnetize the Mammoth to the Pelican.

The alternative is that the FT nations work together on a ship design for a sizable ship we can use. If so, I call engines and FTL.

Or you could just accept my offer to use a small airborne carrier that can cross land or sea and donations of a few ridiculously fucking fast planes for rapid deployment. ;)

I like the Mammoth idea could we deploy one of those from there? And the planes would have to be stealthy, stealthy as well as VTOLs for deploying light armor and such.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:38 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
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And if the base itself is going over seas, just activate a mass reduction unit and magnetize the Mammoth to the Pelican.

The alternative is that the FT nations work together on a ship design for a sizable ship we can use. If so, I call engines and FTL.

Or you could just accept my offer to use a small airborne carrier that can cross land or sea and donations of a few ridiculously fucking fast planes for rapid deployment. ;)

Aren't you the guy that said LOLno to cooperation?

Doesn't matter in the end, Marsh is in Charge of the forces IIRC and takes orders directly from whoever runs the GJU itself.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:39 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Or you could just accept my offer to use a small airborne carrier that can cross land or sea and donations of a few ridiculously fucking fast planes for rapid deployment. ;)

Aren't you the guy that said LOLno to cooperation?

Doesn't matter in the end, Marsh is in Charge of the forces IIRC and takes orders directly from whoever runs the GJU itself.


*shrug*

If I end up sending an operator he'll be lulzing around doing what needs done, not taking orders from a prettyboy.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:41 pm

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The Unified Earth Governments wrote:Aren't you the guy that said LOLno to cooperation?

Doesn't matter in the end, Marsh is in Charge of the forces IIRC and takes orders directly from whoever runs the GJU itself.


*shrug*

If I end up sending an operator he'll be lulzing around doing what needs done, not taking orders from a prettyboy.

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Postby Strykla » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:45 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
*shrug*

If I end up sending an operator he'll be lulzing around doing what needs done, not taking orders from a prettyboy.

"Thats your superior your talking to, are you from a military or a boy band soldier."

Well, then, it looks like the GJU is going to be divisive and not decisive. I, for one, am considering making a Raptorian special ops unit to pick up the slack within my own country.
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Postby Thoricia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:45 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:Doesn't matter in the end, Marsh is in Charge of the forces IIRC and takes orders directly from whoever runs the GJU itself.


How about this then a spaceship that is donated for overall command center, a air carrier for rapid action deployment, and a steath naval carrier for near mission control if the air carrier is tied up the naval carrier could also support covert naval ops as well as underwater support for underwater missions (yes underwater support for the underwater missions, intrigued, yes, yes you are)
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:47 pm

Thoricia wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Or you could just accept my offer to use a small airborne carrier that can cross land or sea and donations of a few ridiculously fucking fast planes for rapid deployment. ;)

I like the Mammoth idea could we deploy one of those from there? And the planes would have to be stealthy, stealthy as well as VTOLs for deploying light armor and such.

As long as the turret was off it could be stored rather easily, although it would have to be one of the larger airships (not the biggest ones, though). The planes do have VTOL, but they're built mostly for extremely rapid deployment of infantry, not armor, so they can't really carry much and they have the obvious issues with sound at supersonic speeds. It probably wouldn't take too much time ICly to develop one capable of lifting light armor, though.

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Or you could just accept my offer to use a small airborne carrier that can cross land or sea and donations of a few ridiculously fucking fast planes for rapid deployment. ;)

Aren't you the guy that said LOLno to cooperation?

Doesn't matter in the end, Marsh is in Charge of the forces IIRC and takes orders directly from whoever runs the GJU itself.

I don't think I did... anyways, the crew and soldiers on the ship wouldn't be giving orders to the GJU, with the exception (again) of, "Stay the hell off the flight deck/away from [things you generally don't want untrained people messing with when you're in the upper stratosphere]".
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:50 pm

Thoricia wrote:
The Unified Earth Governments wrote:Doesn't matter in the end, Marsh is in Charge of the forces IIRC and takes orders directly from whoever runs the GJU itself.


How about this then a spaceship that is donated for overall command center, a air carrier for rapid action deployment, and a steath naval carrier for near mission control if the air carrier is tied up the naval carrier could also support covert naval ops as well as underwater support for underwater missions (yes underwater support for the underwater missions, intrigued, yes, yes you are)

There is no reason for a freaking carrier.

Naval maybe, but when you have space nations involved, a Corvette is all you need.

Covenant sized at the least, a ship this size can be made by all players that put their metal into, we can design it together, and we can give it a hanger for stuff.

Community, unity, this is what we need in this command center.

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Thoricia wrote:I like the Mammoth idea could we deploy one of those from there? And the planes would have to be stealthy, stealthy as well as VTOLs for deploying light armor and such.

As long as the turret was off it could be stored rather easily, although it would have to be one of the larger airships (not the biggest ones, though). The planes do have VTOL, but they're built mostly for extremely rapid deployment of infantry, not armor, so they can't really carry much and they have the obvious issues with sound at supersonic speeds. It probably wouldn't take too much time ICly to develop one capable of lifting light armor, though.

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:Aren't you the guy that said LOLno to cooperation?

Doesn't matter in the end, Marsh is in Charge of the forces IIRC and takes orders directly from whoever runs the GJU itself.

I don't think I did... anyways, the crew and soldiers on the ship wouldn't be giving orders to the GJU, with the exception (again) of, "Stay the hell off the flight deck/away from [things you generally don't want untrained people messing with when you're in the upper stratosphere]".


Yeah, me and Olwe's idea of a joint project is better.

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Postby Thoricia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:56 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
How about this then a spaceship that is donated for overall command center, a air carrier for rapid action deployment, and a steath naval carrier for near mission control if the air carrier is tied up the naval carrier could also support covert naval ops as well as underwater support for underwater missions (yes underwater support for the underwater missions, intrigued, yes, yes you are)

There is no reason for a freaking carrier.

Naval maybe, but when you have space nations involved, a Corvette is all you need.

Covenant sized at the least, a ship this size can be made by all players that put their metal into, we can design it together, and we can give it a hanger for stuff.

Community, unity, this is what we need in this command center.

Wisconsin9 wrote:As long as the turret was off it could be stored rather easily, although it would have to be one of the larger airships (not the biggest ones, though). The planes do have VTOL, but they're built mostly for extremely rapid deployment of infantry, not armor, so they can't really carry much and they have the obvious issues with sound at supersonic speeds. It probably wouldn't take too much time ICly to develop one capable of lifting light armor, though.


I don't think I did... anyways, the crew and soldiers on the ship wouldn't be giving orders to the GJU, with the exception (again) of, "Stay the hell off the flight deck/away from [things you generally don't want untrained people messing with when you're in the upper stratosphere]".


Yeah, me and Olwe's idea of a joint project is better.

I meant a Naval Carrier I'm sure I posted Naval every time I said carrier to avoid confusion, I even said to use it for underwater support.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:01 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
How about this then a spaceship that is donated for overall command center, a air carrier for rapid action deployment, and a steath naval carrier for near mission control if the air carrier is tied up the naval carrier could also support covert naval ops as well as underwater support for underwater missions (yes underwater support for the underwater missions, intrigued, yes, yes you are)

There is no reason for a freaking carrier.

Naval maybe, but when you have space nations involved, a Corvette is all you need.

Covenant sized at the least, a ship this size can be made by all players that put their metal into, we can design it together, and we can give it a hanger for stuff.

Community, unity, this is what we need in this command center.

Wisconsin9 wrote:As long as the turret was off it could be stored rather easily, although it would have to be one of the larger airships (not the biggest ones, though). The planes do have VTOL, but they're built mostly for extremely rapid deployment of infantry, not armor, so they can't really carry much and they have the obvious issues with sound at supersonic speeds. It probably wouldn't take too much time ICly to develop one capable of lifting light armor, though.


I don't think I did... anyways, the crew and soldiers on the ship wouldn't be giving orders to the GJU, with the exception (again) of, "Stay the hell off the flight deck/away from [things you generally don't want untrained people messing with when you're in the upper stratosphere]".


Yeah, me and Olwe's idea of a joint project is better.

Alright, then, although I'm not sure exactly how much good non-FT nations can do helping design an FT spaceship. I'll still let the GJU use the carriers if it's needed, by the way.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:02 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
The Unified Earth Governments wrote:There is no reason for a freaking carrier.

Naval maybe, but when you have space nations involved, a Corvette is all you need.

Covenant sized at the least, a ship this size can be made by all players that put their metal into, we can design it together, and we can give it a hanger for stuff.

Community, unity, this is what we need in this command center.



Yeah, me and Olwe's idea of a joint project is better.

Alright, then, although I'm not sure exactly how much good non-FT nations can do helping design an FT spaceship. I'll still let the GJU use the carriers if it's needed, by the way.


They can supply some fresh Past/Modern/future stuff, depends on the FT nations own time compared to the MT ones.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:07 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Alright, then, although I'm not sure exactly how much good non-FT nations can do helping design an FT spaceship. I'll still let the GJU use the carriers if it's needed, by the way.


They can supply some fresh Past/Modern/future stuff, depends on the FT nations own time compared to the MT ones.

Well, I reckon you've got me beat in power generation at the very least, and probably dropships too... I dunno, the CSW's fairly good with nanobots.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:12 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
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They can supply some fresh Past/Modern/future stuff, depends on the FT nations own time compared to the MT ones.

Well, I reckon you've got me beat in power generation at the very least, and probably dropships too... I dunno, the CSW's fairly good with nanobots.

We have nano bots in about everyone, for Spartans their sis to make them able to alter space, not to devastating, but enough that they can compete with Biotics and Jedi in weird powers.

To be fair though, they are just Forerunner nanos, so they were left for us, so they really don't qualify.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:17 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Well, I reckon you've got me beat in power generation at the very least, and probably dropships too... I dunno, the CSW's fairly good with nanobots.

We have nano bots in about everyone, for Spartans their sis to make them able to alter space, not to devastating, but enough that they can compete with Biotics and Jedi in weird powers.

To be fair though, they are just Forerunner nanos, so they were left for us, so they really don't qualify.

Hmm. Well, we're rather good at making and using them for various purposes (mostly construction use, screening for diseases, and speeding the healing of minor to moderate wounds), although I have no idea what yours can do.
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Postby The Robotech Expeditionary Force » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:20 pm

Thx for ruining my dream of punching things with a space ship. And it would have only been on a loaner for the groups transportation needs. And seriously, 1210m isn't really that big... :p

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go cry in a corner.

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Postby Thoricia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:10 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:Alright, then, although I'm not sure exactly how much good non-FT nations can do helping design an FT spaceship. I'll still let the GJU use the carriers if it's needed, by the way.

It kind of sounds like this is getting turned into a FT only thread and now I'm not so sure I want to be involved.
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Postby Olwe » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:19 pm

Thoricia wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Alright, then, although I'm not sure exactly how much good non-FT nations can do helping design an FT spaceship. I'll still let the GJU use the carriers if it's needed, by the way.

It kind of sounds like this is getting turned into a FT only thread and now I'm not so sure I want to be involved.


Even though Olwe's somewhat FT, I'm inclined to agree... I thought the focus would be on ground combat and now we've got all this spaceship talk. :roll:
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Postby Bereia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:21 pm

The problem with running Any Tech is sometimes folks go overboard and make it Future Tech without even actively trying.
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Postby Estainia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:24 pm

Bereia wrote:The problem with running Any Tech is sometimes folks go overboard and make it Future Tech without even actively trying.


I quote any tech and end up in D&D land like all the time.
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Postby Bereia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:25 pm

Estainia wrote:I quote any tech and end up in D&D land like all the time.


Indeed. Most people read "Any Tech" and they don't actually understand what is being said there. Most frustrating.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:25 pm

Bereia wrote:The problem with running Any Tech is sometimes folks go overboard and make it Future Tech without even actively trying.

You know, I actually just had a thought: we don't actually need a space ship at all. I mean, it's the Global Justice Unit, right? We're not going to be bashing slavers on Mars or liberating concentration camps in Alpha Centauri.
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Postby The Robotech Expeditionary Force » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:30 pm

Olwe wrote:Just what the title says... seriously, screw realism. If you want an RP environment with completely unrestricted tech and an emphasis on fast-paced action and lots of character development rather than logistical and statistical and other istical details, then join this group... if you're one of those people who engages in pedantic nitpicking about whether having one's troops show up within visual range of the nation to be attacked in the OP is godmodding (it's called fast pacing, not godmodding), then this probably isn't the group for you.

What we do here:

-As much badassery as possible. This means that not only will RP storytelling likely be recklessly fast-paced, but also the power levels of all nations involved will probably be extremely, perhaps even ridiculously, high.
-Openly accept any and all who want to join. This means all techs, all ideologies, all species (seriously, check the anti-Pony bullshit at the door)... but it also means being noob-friendly. They're not going to learn to RP properly if nobody helps them, so one of the things this group is going to do is take new users under our wing and show them the ropes. Now, raiding small (as in new) nations because they're more vulnerable targets, discriminating against Ponies or gays or whatever else, etc. is allowable in character... just don't let it become an OOC problem.
-Mix techs as often as possible. Even though PT wouldn't stand a chance against FT in most non-magical scenarios, no thread involving this group is ever likely to be a non-magical scenario so power levels will even out enough to where we can RP with each other regardless of what timeframe we exist in.

What we don't do:

-Godmod. Just because power levels are insanely high doesn't mean there isn't a limit on them, and controlling or deciding the fates of named characters controlled by other nations without permission is still a bad thing. WMD usage might also be regulated in the future, if someone tries to spam WMDs in order to godmod another nation.
-Nitpick about godmodding. If you're going to accuse another nation of godmodding, make sure there's absolutely no doubt they were doing whatever they did in order to cheat, or at the very least that what they did puts whatever nation they're fighting at a significant enough disadvantage that it is indeed a problem.
-Sacrifice pacing for realism. Since this group was founded by a person who gets bored easily, for people who get bored easily, pacing will always take priority. This means that sometimes, if it speeds up the thread more than it gives advantage to a particular RPer, some milder types of godmodding will be allowed to slip past the radar unquestioned.
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Some information you should probably provide about your nation if you're signing up:

Nation Name:
Preferred Tech Level(s):
Ideals (things seen as good):
Things frowned upon:
Anything else we should know?


You may be wondering why I have quoted Owle's intro post for this thread... Well, it seems we are beginning to have issues involving realism and tech levels (in particular the GJU thread being bandied about) As such, I think it would be a good idea to remind people the entire idea behind this RP group. I put particular emphasis on the "what we do here" part of the above quote.

Now, I am of the opinion that if the tech level, or lack of realism is going to be an issue, or if the person who submits the idea for a RP thinks it is going to be a problem that from now on the nation who posts the idea should make mention of this. As such, I would suggest kindly that any future RP ideas posted in this group make mention of this so that when someone in this thread shows interest in the idea their tech level does not become a problem for someone else. Also, going off about a suggestion because it is unrealistic and denying it on this basis... Please refer to the above quote for my opinion of this as well.

Please do not take this as some kind of requirement or demand, however, I think at least most of us would agree that this or something similar would save us a lot of arguing in the long run. What do the rest of you think?

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Postby Batista » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:40 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Bereia wrote:The problem with running Any Tech is sometimes folks go overboard and make it Future Tech without even actively trying.

You know, I actually just had a thought: we don't actually need a space ship at all. I mean, it's the Global Justice Unit, right? We're not going to be bashing slavers on Mars or liberating concentration camps in Alpha Centauri.

Its not that I'm not in favor of a space command center, its a good idea but when other people suggest something and it gets shot down because its not a spaceship is why I got upset and left, its been a long facking work week to so that dosen't help matters, it just seemed like it wasn't going to be feasable for all of the not FT nations that want in, anyways I'll quit bitchin.
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