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Postby Strykla » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:47 pm

I protest! The GJU is supposed to be a multinational force! Throwing in a gigantic capital ship is giving one country waaaaaay too much credit.
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Postby Constaniana » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:56 pm

Strykla wrote:I protest! The GJU is supposed to be a multinational force! Throwing in a gigantic capital ship is giving one country waaaaaay too much credit.

Plus this contribution is coming from such a small nation.
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Postby Olwe » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:59 pm

Strykla wrote:I protest! The GJU is supposed to be a multinational force! Throwing in a gigantic capital ship is giving one country waaaaaay too much credit.


Maybe we can say engineers from each country involved worked on the design?
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:40 pm

Olwe wrote:
Strykla wrote:I protest! The GJU is supposed to be a multinational force! Throwing in a gigantic capital ship is giving one country waaaaaay too much credit.


Maybe we can say engineers from each country involved worked on the design?

So something like the Normandy?

I assume we are going to make a huge contribution.

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Postby Olwe » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:46 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Olwe wrote:
Maybe we can say engineers from each country involved worked on the design?

So something like the Normandy?

I assume we are going to make a huge contribution.


In order to prevent another round of nitpicking, I was actually going for each nation involved making exactly the same amount of contribution.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:50 pm

Olwe wrote:
The Unified Earth Governments wrote:So something like the Normandy?

I assume we are going to make a huge contribution.


In order to prevent another round of nitpicking, I was actually going for each nation involved making exactly the same amount of contribution.

Meh, the General would most likely not want any UNSC tech beyond a MAC or maybe a Slipspace Engine to get in the ship.

We would never let other countries have NOVA's, Forerunner Based Engines and Energy Beams.

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Postby Olwe » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:54 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Olwe wrote:
In order to prevent another round of nitpicking, I was actually going for each nation involved making exactly the same amount of contribution.

Meh, the General would most likely not want any UNSC tech beyond a MAC or maybe a Slipspace Engine to get in the ship.

We would never let other countries have NOVA's, Forerunner Based Engines and Energy Beams.


And you're joining an international organization why? I mean, if you have trust issues then what's the point?
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:02 pm

Olwe wrote:
The Unified Earth Governments wrote:Meh, the General would most likely not want any UNSC tech beyond a MAC or maybe a Slipspace Engine to get in the ship.

We would never let other countries have NOVA's, Forerunner Based Engines and Energy Beams.


And you're joining an international organization why? I mean, if you have trust issues then what's the point?

Not about trust, it's about not giving other civilizations our own technology unless it can easily be replicated, the exception is the NOVA Nuclear weapon, The Government believes that as holders of the Mantle, there is no other civilization that can responsibly hold a weapon like that.

Some say they are being too harsh, but the thing literally blows up planets, they say its like giving the atom bomb to Cuba, some say thats not the case and many can understand it.

But they are really strict on that one specific weapon.

When a civilization makes their own and or equivalent however they don't care.

Personally the general agrees in this instance, the NOVA is a last ditch weapon, used only when ti absolutely has too. So the GJU would not need a NOVA.

The Forerunner stuff was left for the Humans of my canon. Anything like a MAC, or a slipspace engine or even Archer missiles, stuff like thats okay to trade, heck, we would be willing to give the ship our shielding technology, the only reverse engineered Forerunner thing we sell away to other nations (Allies though, and those are the close allies.)

So again, it is not a matter of trust, except in the case of the NOVA.

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Postby Strykla » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:08 pm

Oooorrr we don't have lolhueg ships. As I recall, G. I. Joe was a special ops group - special ops isn't known for battleships.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:11 pm

Strykla wrote:Oooorrr we don't have lolhueg ships. As I recall, G. I. Joe was a special ops group - special ops isn't known for battleships.

I thought we were only going to have something the size of the Daedalus from SR3 or something.

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Postby Crystal Spires » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:24 pm

I vote against lolhuge ships for this RP. We are playing a spec ops group not a navy IIRC.
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Postby Olwe » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:26 pm

I guess it's the nation I RP with, but 1250m didn't seem that big to me. *shrugs* Also, GI Joe had the Mobile Command Center, Defiant Space Launch Complex and others back in the late '80s... it's not like there's no precedent.

Anyway, it's caused enough migraine-inducing controversy that we are definitely not using Robotech's ship (sorry Robotech, blame the Stop Having Fun Guys that this group was supposed to prevent rather than encourage).

At any rate, I'm offline from now until Monday. Will try and catch up then.
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Postby Crystal Spires » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:27 pm

Also, as I am aware, offering any sort of naval equipment (space or otherwise) unfairly places an undue charge or burden of power on said persons nation. Obviously if there is a ship someone made, they will want to retain ownership or power over it.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:28 pm

Our Base should be a Mammoth.

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Postby Thoricia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:38 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:Our Base should be a Mammoth.

We need to have some kind of Mobile command center from some country that is willing to donate it otherwise we'll have to have the GIs run off of some computer link or I dunno, we need a base of operations is what I'm saying so lets put the I wanna be in charge BS aside and figure something out otherwise the RP is dead before we even start. Besides were are you going to keep the doomsday devices that you might capture before the evil groups
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Postby Ruskarkand » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:44 pm

So, I'm wanting a second opinion on this idea I've been having. I've been thinking of getting a small Military Company established that operates as a special forces, since I've been lacking one for so long. Thing is, I /could/ have gone for the normal option of enhancing their abilities with the use of Mechanical Augmentations, which is my backup line for everything I pretty much do with my Military.

Variation is the spice of life though, so I'm thinking of going for something different this time. I was thinking something like (Read: Exactly like) the Outsider's Mark from Dishonored, because every other concept I decide to draw into this nation is from one game/book/movie setting or another, so why not? (Except the Dragonkin, they're my work)
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:49 pm

I'm willing to offer up the services of one of my AACs as a base, but it should be noted that the GJU would not own it. No giving orders, plenty of staying away from important systems. Wouldn't be stopped from coming and going (as long as they use their own planes), and eating and sleeping there, but that's it.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:51 pm

Thoricia wrote:
The Unified Earth Governments wrote:Our Base should be a Mammoth.

We need to have some kind of Mobile command center from some country that is willing to donate it otherwise we'll have to have the GIs run off of some computer link or I dunno, we need a base of operations is what I'm saying so lets put the I wanna be in charge BS aside and figure something out otherwise the RP is dead before we even start. Besides were are you going to keep the doomsday devices that you might capture before the evil groups

Mammoth

Specifically my version.

Used as artillery and a mobile command point, features defense turrets, starship grade armor, shields, moves faster, Gauss Turrets like the one on the Gauss Hog (Nothing special though, all UNSC weapons use a Gauss system one way or another.) MAC cannon is capable of doing the required artillery role, or it can act in a similar way as the tanks we use.

During the Skyllian Blitz these babies were capable of taking out Batarian Frigates and even Cruisers that remained higher up in orbit. It is not designed to engage enemies directly but has tones of weapons for defense and can hold a large amount of troops. The Star ship grade armor is equal to that of a light frigate and it's shields match that of a Light Corvette.

It would be a pretty good mobile base, and some remove the gun for a small landing pad for a Pelican, which we can do that so we have fast extraction, or we can have the landing pad and have any other nations equivalent to a Pelican be used as air transport.

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Postby Thoricia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:04 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:Mammoth

Specifically my version.

Used as artillery and a mobile command point, features defense turrets, starship grade armor, shields, moves faster, Gauss Turrets like the one on the Gauss Hog (Nothing special though, all UNSC weapons use a Gauss system one way or another.) MAC cannon is capable of doing the required artillery role, or it can act in a similar way as the tanks we use.

During the Skyllian Blitz these babies were capable of taking out Batarian Frigates and even Cruisers that remained higher up in orbit. It is not designed to engage enemies directly but has tones of weapons for defense and can hold a large amount of troops. The Star ship grade armor is equal to that of a light frigate and it's shields match that of a Light Corvette.

It would be a pretty good mobile base, and some remove the gun for a small landing pad for a Pelican, which we can do that so we have fast extraction, or we can have the landing pad and have any other nations equivalent to a Pelican be used as air transport.

Ok let me point this out though, how are you going to get your Mammoth across an Ocean and deploy a Spec-ops team into a hostile territory (playing devils advocate here ok so please dont get mad)

I like this as a deployed command center in a friendly country but ICly it dosen't seem like its its its, fack I can't think of the word.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:11 pm

Thoricia wrote:
The Unified Earth Governments wrote:Mammoth

Specifically my version.

Used as artillery and a mobile command point, features defense turrets, starship grade armor, shields, moves faster, Gauss Turrets like the one on the Gauss Hog (Nothing special though, all UNSC weapons use a Gauss system one way or another.) MAC cannon is capable of doing the required artillery role, or it can act in a similar way as the tanks we use.

During the Skyllian Blitz these babies were capable of taking out Batarian Frigates and even Cruisers that remained higher up in orbit. It is not designed to engage enemies directly but has tones of weapons for defense and can hold a large amount of troops. The Star ship grade armor is equal to that of a light frigate and it's shields match that of a Light Corvette.

It would be a pretty good mobile base, and some remove the gun for a small landing pad for a Pelican, which we can do that so we have fast extraction, or we can have the landing pad and have any other nations equivalent to a Pelican be used as air transport.

Ok let me point this out though, how are you going to get your Mammoth across an Ocean and deploy a Spec-ops team into a hostile territory (playing devils advocate here ok so please dont get mad)

I like this as a deployed command center in a friendly country but ICly it dosen't seem like its its its, fack I can't think of the word.


And if the base itself is going over seas, just activate a mass reduction unit and magnetize the Mammoth to the Pelican.

The alternative is that the FT nations work together on a ship design for a sizable ship we can use. If so, I call engines and FTL.

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Postby Thoricia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:17 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Ok let me point this out though, how are you going to get your Mammoth across an Ocean and deploy a Spec-ops team into a hostile territory (playing devils advocate here ok so please dont get mad)

I like this as a deployed command center in a friendly country but ICly it dosen't seem like its its its, fack I can't think of the word.


And if the base itself is going over seas, just activate a mass reduction unit and magnetize the Mammoth to the Pelican.

The alternative is that the FT nations work together on a ship design for a sizable ship we can use. If so, I call engines and FTL.

Ok that could be the space base á la Justice League, I could have Thoricia donate a Worker-class Naval Carrier and have it refitted to the teams operation specs, I would also be willing to abandon any and all rights to the carrier as well if this would help move the RP process along.

EDIT: But if you have to operate in hostile territory were is the command center going to be something that big is likely going to be noticed.
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Postby The Unified Earth Governments » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:18 pm

Thoricia wrote:
The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
And if the base itself is going over seas, just activate a mass reduction unit and magnetize the Mammoth to the Pelican.

The alternative is that the FT nations work together on a ship design for a sizable ship we can use. If so, I call engines and FTL.

Ok that could be the space base á la Justice League, I could have Thoricia donate a Worker-class Naval Carrier and have it refitted to the teams operation specs, I would also be willing to abandon any and all rights to the carrier as well if this would help move the RP process along.


Carrier is to large.

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Postby Thoricia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:21 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Ok that could be the space base á la Justice League, I could have Thoricia donate a Worker-class Naval Carrier and have it refitted to the teams operation specs, I would also be willing to abandon any and all rights to the carrier as well if this would help move the RP process along.


Carrier is to large.

Just asking, how come?
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Postby Estainia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:22 pm

Crush down summary of what I just missed please. ._.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:25 pm

The Unified Earth Governments wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Ok let me point this out though, how are you going to get your Mammoth across an Ocean and deploy a Spec-ops team into a hostile territory (playing devils advocate here ok so please dont get mad)

I like this as a deployed command center in a friendly country but ICly it dosen't seem like its its its, fack I can't think of the word.


And if the base itself is going over seas, just activate a mass reduction unit and magnetize the Mammoth to the Pelican.

The alternative is that the FT nations work together on a ship design for a sizable ship we can use. If so, I call engines and FTL.

Or you could just accept my offer to use a small airborne carrier that can cross land or sea and donations of a few ridiculously fucking fast planes for rapid deployment. ;)
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