Screw Realism! (RP Group, Open)

[The Rhythm Nation]

Rasputina and Sirenia remind me at Anne Bonny and Mary Read

Not intentional, though I do know who you're talking about... I was going for more of a thing like Mandy and her girlfriend in the first season of 24.

[Lazssia]

This is fair, I can remove the age part but my reason for putting it up is to forbid child soldiers, because that's generally the purview of hilariously corrupt states.

Do what Olwe does in order to prevent arbitrary numerical designations... just say "level of puberty or higher".

This ^, Lazssia conscripts it's citizens into the IDF at fifteen, they still have a very old fashioned way of seeing age and maturity. That and at just fifteen Lazssians tower of most non-Lazssians.

[Gorgashia]

Admittedly, you are out-teched. I honestly don't know what to do about that at this point... if anyone has any ideas that won't completely prevent the higher-tech nations from participating (note that complete prevention of participation for FT nations would make me unable to RP my own idea), then they should speak up.

And before anyone says "no vehicles" again, note that we will need a way for the non-teleportation-capable nations to get their GJU members to the intended mission destinations, some of which will be across oceans or even on other planets.

Even if you are out teched you're a birdman for crying out loud, supereyes, flight, and silent 90mph assault dives with sharp metal objects makes you a fearsome fearsome creature, the only limits you have in my eyes are the ones you put on yourself, even with modern tech you should be more than able keep pace with the more advanced tech characters.

Well, that depends on the tech-level.

A guy with your standard power armour with an advanced HUD and a jet-pack can negate a lot of those skills.

That being said, I think some creativity can solve this.

For example;
-Bad guys create a distortion field that screws up our electronics.
-Mr. Spacemarine's advanced tech gets scarmbled.
-Generator for distortion field is on top of an evil spire.
-Birdman has to fly up and disable generator for Mr. Spacemarine to smash the bad guys.

I'll admit that example is a tad cliche, but that's just a half-baked example made from one minute of thinking.

[Olwe]

And before anyone says "no vehicles" again, note that we will need a way for the non-teleportation-capable nations to get their GJU members to the intended mission destinations, some of which will be across oceans or even on other planets.

Loaned and borrowed Tech. I thought I mentioned this?

Yes, and it's good as long as everyone agrees to actually use said loaned and borrowed tech, which hasn't happened yet. Instead we've had a lot of needless bickering that's nearly turned me off to even going through with the idea.

Also UEG this is why when the suggestion was brought up in the beginning I spoke to Olwe declaring my concern with giving you any leadership position at all. You declare yourself the most important person in an RP and tend to throw angry fits that get you warned or banned. You have had trouble with the mods in the past. It is outrageously common with most, if not all of your puppet nations which is saying something because you have more puppets than I do.

This is true... I was keeping an eye out for trouble based on Spires' warning, and now it looks like she might've been right. Let's not get all pissy just because things aren't going exactly your way, okay UEG? We'll still find a command position for your character.

But fine, if you play it like that, who is he sharing command with?

The Anorel character I posted further up page 44. And since he gets to work very closely with a female Olwean, there are fringe benefits for him to enjoy that might justify you keeping your character on even though you're upset.

[Crystal Spires]

Article I.
The Establishment of the Global Justice Unit and Our Purpose:

We the people of the the Global Justice Unit as free nations, and organizations do declare it is a matter of pride and honor to establish an organization designed to defend the civil rights and freedoms of people throughout the universe, to ensure the survival of those who struggle against oppression and injustice. Our most noble goal is ultimately the promotion of freedom and justice for all beings.

Article II
Membership eligibility and selection
All People in the Global Justice Unit shall be the vanguard of freedom and must come from organizations that promote this honored ideal. Those in the Unit are to be at the age of adulthood, and to hold the principles of rule of law and civil rights to be ennumerated in Article III. We shall require those who are willing to stand for their beliefs and take to arms should the shadow of death reach out. Any person to be found not acting in the interests of freedom and justice shall be immediately sent to court martial to be expelled in the interests of the group. Those found to be loyal to or connected to the Enemy shall be summarily executed as traitors, after extensive interrogation. ( You have Olweans in this organization. SOME Olwean doctrine must still be observed. that was be being a bit considerate because Spireans would kind of do the Olwean thing as well, but with RITUAL AND CEREMONY! Ask people what I do to traitors in CS! ASK!)

Article III
Freedoms to be Protected
Freedom of Speech: Everyone shall have the right to freely voice their opinion without interference and exercise of this right carries special duties and responsibilities subject only to restrictions when the reputation of others for the protection of national security, of public order, or of public health are concerned.

Freedom of Assembly: Everyone has the individual right to come together and collectively express, promote, pursue and defend their own common interests.

Freedom of Movement: A citizen of a state has the liberty to travel, reside in, and/or work in any part of the state where they please within the limits of respect for the liberty and rights of others.

Rights of Customs: Everyone has the individual right to leave a state and return at any time.

Freedom from Slavery: No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Freedom of Political Ideology: Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms without distinction of political or other opinion.

Freedom from Discrimination: Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, biological gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, language, religion or lack thereof, political or other opinion, species, national or social origin, property, birth, or other status.

Article IV
Titles, terms of office, and assembly elections
Our Chairman shall preside over meetings of the Great Assembly and conduct its business in an orderly fashion, and when the Assembly is not in session, the duty of the Chairman includes acting as its head, its representative to the outside world and its spokesperson.

The Deputy Chairman is subordinate to the chairman, and is elected to assist the chairman and to serve as chairman in the absence of the chairman and in case of the Chairman's death or murder, and/or when a motion involving the chairman is being discussed. In the absence of the Chairman and Deputy Chairman, a temporary Chairman shall be elected in the interest of protecting our noble group.

The Remaining Group shall be divided into 2 Major Wings.

The Wing of Military Force:
Shall be led by the General of the Global Justice Unit who is the Leader of the Military Wing and will control the military command structure to respond to any threats by land, air, sea and the void.

Then the Field Marshall shall lead the next available level of our organization. Every member shall be made available for immediate deployment anywhere they are needed. Upon a war declaration the Field Marshall leads all troops until such time as an inter-alliance command structure is set up.

Our Operations Commander comes up with general strategic plans, and controls the planning for any war we enter.

Our Resource Assessment Commander shall ensure that all members shall receive any and all aid and resources they need to get an operation done, and also shall control the distribution and allocation of all aid from the Diplomatic Wing.

Our Dispute Settlement Mediator is responsible for acting as a go-between in settling all disputes between members in war time and in times of peace. They are to become the Lawyer on behalf of the Military.

The Diplomatic Wing

The Director of the Diplomatic Wing shall control all actions of the Diplomatic Wing, and holds the power to decide all diplomatic actions of the Global Justice Unit. This means the power to condemn, commend, or blacklist conflicts and/or nations and to decide the future of our political relations internationally. They shall be subject to the decisions made in the Assembly and to the Chairman and Co Chair.

The Minister of the Foreign Relations controls all diplomatic actions and will act as the representative to other major alliances.

The Director of Intelligence watches all actions and movements of the enemy and neutral nations and reports major actionable offenses to the Assembly. All intelligence gathered by them is given directly to the Director of the Diplomatic Wing and the General of the Global Justice Union for immediate use.

The Chief Economic Minister shall control all aid, as well as watching all the economies internationally to be able to secure foreign investments.

The Intelligence Agency Head shall direct all covert actions of sabotage against enemies of our people, and to limit their ability to seek out alliances, aid and comfort using whatever means at their disposal.

Article V
Meetings of the Grand Assembly
The Grand Assembly in times of peace shall meet every day to ensure the promotion of justice and freedom. They are to include representatives from all nations in the Global Justice Unit.

Article VI
Right to assess aid and contributions
All aid and contributions shall be subject to the Grand Assembly, and decisions to use such aid shall be decided in the Assembly.

Article VII
Amendment Process
All proposals for amending the constitution must be filed with 2 weeks notice and they shall be voted in or rejected by a 2/3 majority in our assembly.

^Fixed with some minor editing, thinking of adding some more positions for fun and profits including a propaganda minister. So far does this sound alright before I add more?

[Strykla]

Article I.
The Establishment of the Global Justice Unit and Our Purpose:

We the people of the the Global Justice Unit as free nations, and organizations do declare it is a matter of pride and honor to establish an organization designed to defend the civil rights and freedoms of people throughout the universe, to ensure the survival of those who struggle against oppression and injustice. Our most noble goal is ultimately the promotion of freedom and justice for all beings.

Article II
Membership eligibility and selection
All People in the Global Justice Unit shall be the vanguard of freedom and must come from organizations that promote this honored ideal. Those in the Unit are to be at the age of adulthood, and to hold the principles of rule of law and civil rights to be ennumerated in Article III. We shall require those who are willing to stand for their beliefs and take to arms should the shadow of death reach out. Any person to be found not acting in the interests of freedom and justice shall be immediately sent to court martial to be expelled in the interests of the group. Those found to be loyal to or connected to the Enemy shall be summarily executed as traitors, after extensive interrogation. ( You have Olweans in this organization. SOME Olwean doctrine must still be observed. that was be being a bit considerate because Spireans would kind of do the Olwean thing as well, but with RITUAL AND CEREMONY! Ask people what I do to traitors in CS! ASK!)

Article III
Freedoms to be Protected
Freedom of Speech: Everyone shall have the right to freely voice their opinion without interference and exercise of this right carries special duties and responsibilities subject only to restrictions when the reputation of others for the protection of national security, of public order, or of public health are concerned.

Freedom of Assembly: Everyone has the individual right to come together and collectively express, promote, pursue and defend their own common interests.

Freedom of Movement: A citizen of a state has the liberty to travel, reside in, and/or work in any part of the state where they please within the limits of respect for the liberty and rights of others.

Rights of Customs: Everyone has the individual right to leave a state and return at any time.

Freedom from Slavery: No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Freedom of Political Ideology: Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms without distinction of political or other opinion.

Freedom from Discrimination: Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, biological gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, language, religion or lack thereof, political or other opinion, species, national or social origin, property, birth, or other status.

Article IV
Titles, terms of office, and assembly elections
Our Chairman shall preside over meetings of the Great Assembly and conduct its business in an orderly fashion, and when the Assembly is not in session, the duty of the Chairman includes acting as its head, its representative to the outside world and its spokesperson.

The Deputy Chairman is subordinate to the chairman, and is elected to assist the chairman and to serve as chairman in the absence of the chairman and in case of the Chairman's death or murder, and/or when a motion involving the chairman is being discussed. In the absence of the Chairman and Deputy Chairman, a temporary Chairman shall be elected in the interest of protecting our noble group.

The Remaining Group shall be divided into 2 Major Wings.

The Wing of Military Force:
Shall be led by the General of the Global Justice Unit who is the Leader of the Military Wing and will control the military command structure to respond to any threats by land, air, sea and the void.

Then the Field Marshall shall lead the next available level of our organization. Every member shall be made available for immediate deployment anywhere they are needed. Upon a war declaration the Field Marshall leads all troops until such time as an inter-alliance command structure is set up.

Our Operations Commander comes up with general strategic plans, and controls the planning for any war we enter.

Our Resource Assessment Commander shall ensure that all members shall receive any and all aid and resources they need to get an operation done, and also shall control the distribution and allocation of all aid from the Diplomatic Wing.

Our Dispute Settlement Mediator is responsible for acting as a go-between in settling all disputes between members in war time and in times of peace. They are to become the Lawyer on behalf of the Military.

The Diplomatic Wing

The Director of the Diplomatic Wing shall control all actions of the Diplomatic Wing, and holds the power to decide all diplomatic actions of the Global Justice Unit. This means the power to condemn, commend, or blacklist conflicts and/or nations and to decide the future of our political relations internationally. They shall be subject to the decisions made in the Assembly and to the Chairman and Co Chair.

The Minister of the Foreign Relations controls all diplomatic actions and will act as the representative to other major alliances.

The Director of Intelligence watches all actions and movements of the enemy and neutral nations and reports major actionable offenses to the Assembly. All intelligence gathered by them is given directly to the Director of the Diplomatic Wing and the General of the Global Justice Union for immediate use.

The Chief Economic Minister shall control all aid, as well as watching all the economies internationally to be able to secure foreign investments.

The Intelligence Agency Head shall direct all covert actions of sabotage against enemies of our people, and to limit their ability to seek out alliances, aid and comfort using whatever means at their disposal.

Article V
Meetings of the Grand Assembly
The Grand Assembly in times of peace shall meet every day to ensure the promotion of justice and freedom. They are to include representatives from all nations in the Global Justice Unit.

Article VI
Right to assess aid and contributions
All aid and contributions shall be subject to the Grand Assembly, and decisions to use such aid shall be decided in the Assembly.

Article VII
Amendment Process
All proposals for amending the constitution must be filed with 2 weeks notice and they shall be voted in or rejected by a 2/3 majority in our assembly.

^Fixed with some minor editing, thinking of adding some more positions for fun and profits including a propaganda minister. So far does this sound alright before I add more?

Hmph! Moar anti-slavery BS. Oh well, I have thralls! Not slaves!

As for the whole importance of sapient(sapient, not anthro) bird debate: That is, tbh, a debate already settled. One can fudge the numbers or make special scenarios as much as they like, but in the end a battle would always favor the one with opposable thumbs. There is a reason humanity has come so far, and that is because we can use tools; a bird, not so much. Shooting a gun is out of the question. My raptors use limited amounts of claw sheathes, which basically covers the keratin of the talon and beak with much stronger steel, but a swordsman cannot kill a rifleman in any logical battle. And I really can't put any significant amount of armor, certainly not enough to stop bullets, on a bird for obvious reasons.

Which leaves espionage, which might work. Then again, it might not, for any number of reasons. I hope you all grasp how hamstrung I am just by the inclusion of logical civilizations, but I have other ways of RPing than being effective in battle - chief of which I will not release, because moar drama!

[Sakarnen]

Hmph! Moar anti-slavery BS. Oh well, I have thralls! Not slaves!

As for the whole importance of sapient(sapient, not anthro) bird debate: That is, tbh, a debate already settled. One can fudge the numbers or make special scenarios as much as they like, but in the end a battle would always favor the one with opposable thumbs. There is a reason humanity has come so far, and that is because we can use tools; a bird, not so much. Shooting a gun is out of the question. My raptors use limited amounts of claw sheathes, which basically covers the keratin of the talon and beak with much stronger steel, but a swordsman cannot kill a rifleman in any logical battle. And I really can't put any significant amount of armor, certainly not enough to stop bullets, on a bird for obvious reasons.

Which leaves espionage, which might work. Then again, it might not, for any number of reasons. I hope you all grasp how hamstrung I am just by the inclusion of logical civilizations, but I have other ways of RPing than being effective in battle - chief of which I will not release, because moar drama!

I'm pretty sure I could find a magic solution to this. What good is a magic nation if you can't?
(Unless you have a problem with that- I'm just offering.)

[Thoricia]

Still even a sapient bird with a bandolier of grenades is force to be reckoned with, just pull pin with one claw and drop, could be useful as firesupport. Plus he still has the Vising, so still a very effective component of a well rounded team.

I think thats one of the thing you guys need to build on as well, instead of thinking of your character as stand alone piece maybe you should think about how your character helps the team.

[The Unified Earth Governments]

Loaned and borrowed Tech. I thought I mentioned this?

Yes, and it's good as long as everyone agrees to actually use said loaned and borrowed tech, which hasn't happened yet. Instead we've had a lot of needless bickering that's nearly turned me off to even going through with the idea.

Also UEG this is why when the suggestion was brought up in the beginning I spoke to Olwe declaring my concern with giving you any leadership position at all. You declare yourself the most important person in an RP and tend to throw angry fits that get you warned or banned. You have had trouble with the mods in the past. It is outrageously common with most, if not all of your puppet nations which is saying something because you have more puppets than I do.

This is true... I was keeping an eye out for trouble based on Spires' warning, and now it looks like she might've been right. Let's not get all pissy just because things aren't going exactly your way, okay UEG? We'll still find a command position for your character.

But fine, if you play it like that, who is he sharing command with?

The Anorel character I posted further up page 44. And since he gets to work very closely with a female Olwean, there are fringe benefits for him to enjoy that might justify you keeping your character on even though you're upset.

I was only really upset because.

1. I just got off my Worksite and it was not a good day.
2. I was worried it was going to end up like FAR.
3. I was having just a minor amount of stress, it was easily going to loosen up after my dentist appointment, which was surprisingly only 15 minutes.

[The Unified Earth Governments]

And before anyone says "no vehicles" again, note that we will need a way for the non-teleportation-capable nations to get their GJU members to the intended mission destinations, some of which will be across oceans or even on other planets.

Loaned and borrowed Tech. I thought I mentioned this?

Also UEG this is why when the suggestion was brought up in the beginning I spoke to Olwe declaring my concern with giving you any leadership position at all. You declare yourself the most important person in an RP and tend to throw angry fits that get you warned or banned. You have had trouble with the mods in the past. It is outrageously common with most, if not all of your puppet nations which is saying something because you have more puppets than I do.

Spires, don't get me started on some of your slip ups, and do I have to remind you at least two of those were just me getting in trouble on purpose, back when i was more stress proned.

I also like how your bringing up past moments that are no longer relevant to me now. I also enjoy how your claiming how I always make myself seem like a major player in a RP. If you bothered to pay attention, you would see why I had some concern, as I was previously told that I was allowed to have a high ranking character, this is because I wanted to broaden my RP experience and skills.

So please do not speak like you understand the entire situation, because it is not helping you. This is not a speech with malice I remind you, but a reminder that your post is not helpful and is entirely unnecessary.

All it takes people, is to step back and think about why I was upset. Which is all over since I had time to relax after work, and to at least reread what was going on, and with Olwe's confirmation, everything is going well.

I think everyone here has a trust problem honestly, and I think we should all just put some faith into each other.

[Crystal Spires]

We are not here to control your emotional outbursts and asking us to do so is ridiculous. You know this yes? And to say that you deliberately tried to get in trouble only hurts, and doesn't help your case, and that what you call minor stress caused you to throw a veritable tantrum doesn't also help your case. I recommend you get your temper under control of your own volition, and accept the fact that your actions have consequences for yourself and others. You cannot discount what you continuously do. Your outbursts have not stopped. You refuse to get your temper under control. So they will not stop. We are not to be held responsible for your screw ups. That is all.

[The Unified Earth Governments]

We are not here to control your emotional outbursts and asking us to do so is ridiculous. You know this yes? And to say that you deliberately tried to get in trouble only hurts, and doesn't help your case, and that what you call minor stress caused you to throw a veritable tantrum doesn't also help your case. I recommend you get your temper under control of your own volition, and accept the fact that your actions have consequences for yourself and others. You cannot discount what you continuously do. Your outbursts have not stopped. You refuse to get your temper under control. So they will not stop. We are not to be held responsible for your screw ups. That is all.

Spires.....please tell me when the last time I had an emotional outburst, I really want to know the last time I had one on nation states.

Spires, I think you should take a break, your obviously not able to tell when, or when I am not mad, and it is boarder line offensive at best. I have not had an issue in a long, long time. A matter of fact it seems like you are the one getting mad, and quite frankly I don't care, you seem to be jumping the gun and assume I am having a tantrum, which is even more offensive.

I believe you should have a break, cool down and at least not speak on the subject further, because only one of us here seems infuriated.

[The Unified Earth Governments]

So when is the GJU thingy going to start? I am shaking with anticipation.

[Crystal Spires]

Hmph! Moar anti-slavery BS. Oh well, I have thralls! Not slaves!

As for the whole importance of sapient(sapient, not anthro) bird debate: That is, tbh, a debate already settled. One can fudge the numbers or make special scenarios as much as they like, but in the end a battle would always favor the one with opposable thumbs. There is a reason humanity has come so far, and that is because we can use tools; a bird, not so much. Shooting a gun is out of the question. My raptors use limited amounts of claw sheathes, which basically covers the keratin of the talon and beak with much stronger steel, but a swordsman cannot kill a rifleman in any logical battle. And I really can't put any significant amount of armor, certainly not enough to stop bullets, on a bird for obvious reasons.

Which leaves espionage, which might work. Then again, it might not, for any number of reasons. I hope you all grasp how hamstrung I am just by the inclusion of logical civilizations, but I have other ways of RPing than being effective in battle - chief of which I will not release, because moar drama!

So Shall I begin to add more positions?

[Strykla]

Hmph! Moar anti-slavery BS. Oh well, I have thralls! Not slaves!

As for the whole importance of sapient(sapient, not anthro) bird debate: That is, tbh, a debate already settled. One can fudge the numbers or make special scenarios as much as they like, but in the end a battle would always favor the one with opposable thumbs. There is a reason humanity has come so far, and that is because we can use tools; a bird, not so much. Shooting a gun is out of the question. My raptors use limited amounts of claw sheathes, which basically covers the keratin of the talon and beak with much stronger steel, but a swordsman cannot kill a rifleman in any logical battle. And I really can't put any significant amount of armor, certainly not enough to stop bullets, on a bird for obvious reasons.

Which leaves espionage, which might work. Then again, it might not, for any number of reasons. I hope you all grasp how hamstrung I am just by the inclusion of logical civilizations, but I have other ways of RPing than being effective in battle - chief of which I will not release, because moar drama!

So Shall I begin to add more positions?

Aye, let us begin.

One important note: The positions system we have now is mongrel, I can't believe I didn't see it before. Letting people make up their own roles screws everything up, and I am willing to wager we have, like, four different close-quarters specialists despite that that role makes absolutely no sense. In the military, a fireteam looks very ordered: Team leader, rifleman, automatic rifleman, and grenadier. Why not have a roster with all the roles available, then give them out?

[Crystal Spires]

One important note: The positions system we have now is mongrel, I can't believe I didn't see it before. Letting people make up their own roles screws everything up, and I am willing to wager we have, like, four different close-quarters specialists despite that that role makes absolutely no sense. In the military, a fireteam looks very ordered: Team leader, rifleman, automatic rifleman, and grenadier. Why not have a roster with all the roles available, then give them out?

Because them's icky bureaucratic leadership positions. One wouldn't be a Leadership position in that case, one would be a grunt <3 but they're at the best possible positions. Also it would be more covert.

But yes, I will actually add those as well.

[G-Tech Corporation]

UEG: The only reason you had a problem with FAR was because Prem and I found your blatant Halo-ripoffs hilarious. Being butthurt is a poor excuse for ragequitting.

[The Unified Earth Governments]

UEG: The only reason you had a problem with FAR was because Prem and I found your blatant Halo-ripoffs hilarious. Being butthurt is a poor excuse for ragequitting.

I left FAR because they kept updating it when it should have been settled from the beginning, going as far as to remove my Alwon nations only defense against nations like you.

And there you go using the term rip off incorrectly like a majority of people.

Hey G-Tech, how about you actually learn the reasons why people leave role play groups before you make useless and false comments? It kinda helps make your argument seem stronger, less riddled with holes.

[Wisconsin9]

I suggest everyone take a few minutes to calm down before doing something that gets the mods involved.

[G-Tech Corporation]

UEG: The only reason you had a problem with FAR was because Prem and I found your blatant Halo-ripoffs hilarious. Being butthurt is a poor excuse for ragequitting.

I left FAR because they kept updating it when it should have been settled from the beginning, going as far as to remove my Alwon nations only defense against nations like you.

And there you go using the term rip off incorrectly like a majority of people.

Hey G-Tech, how about you actually learn the reasons why people leave role play groups before you make useless and false comments? It kinda helps make your argument seem stronger, less riddled with holes.

A RP group is a living and active construct- and had to be even moreso when the OP left. You could have easily adapted your nation to the changing circumstances around you via RP, but instead you choose to just leave in a huff. Clearly your commitment to RPing groups that are vibrant is great and steadfast.

rip-off (rpôf, -f)
n. Slang
1. A product or service that is overpriced or of poor quality.
2. Something, such as a film or story, that is clearly imitative of or based on something else.
Sauce

Do tell how your Halo-copy nations are not clearly imitative of, yknow, the UEG or UNSC. I would love to hear it.

Yeah, I'll get right on that.

[Urmanian]

with all due respect please move personal exchanges to TG and proceed with the roleplaying discussion

[The Unified Earth Governments]

I suggest everyone take a few minutes to calm down before doing something that gets the mods involved.

Don't look at me, perfectly fine.

Just some people think they know whats happening now, or in the past, and that kinda gets annoying at best.

But hey, what are you going to do, it's nothing to get heated over.

I left FAR because they kept updating it when it should have been settled from the beginning, going as far as to remove my Alwon nations only defense against nations like you.

And there you go using the term rip off incorrectly like a majority of people.

Hey G-Tech, how about you actually learn the reasons why people leave role play groups before you make useless and false comments? It kinda helps make your argument seem stronger, less riddled with holes.

A RP group is a living and active construct- and had to be even moreso when the OP left. You could have easily adapted your nation to the changing circumstances around you via RP, but instead you choose to just leave in a huff. Clearly your commitment to RPing groups that are vibrant is great and steadfast.

rip-off (rpôf, -f)
n. Slang
1. A product or service that is overpriced or of poor quality.
2. Something, such as a film or story, that is clearly imitative of or based on something else.
Sauce

Do tell how your Halo-copy nations are not clearly imitative of, yknow, the UEG or UNSC. I would love to hear it.

Yeah, I'll get right on that.

My problem with FAR as I said, was because it didn't have all the rules in the ground from the gecko and I was tired of having to change nations again.

rip off

1. treat somebody unfairly over money: to charge somebody an unfair price, or cheat somebody financially
2. steal something: to rob somebody, or steal something

Steal

3. dishonestly present somebody's work as yours: to take something that somebody else has created, especially ideas, theories, or a piece of writing, and present it as your own

Back when I started this, I never claimed any of the original stuff was mine, and it grew to the point that I was confident that it was obvious that nothing was mien unless otherwise stated.

Now please drop the conversation G-tech, it's getting you no where.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Eh, I'm not really discussing the issue with FAR. I'm simply pointing out a similar situation to the current issue with your character being demoted- which you brought up yourself- and thus providing an example of why a more run-of-the-mill UEG participant would be better for all involved.

[Gorgashia]

with all due respect please move personal exchanges to TG and proceed with the roleplaying discussion

I wish to restate Urm's point.

The conversation currently taking place is a bit off-topic.

Please take it to TG.

[Amerikians]

._.

The hell guys. Love, friendship, on-topic discussions.