Screw Realism! (RP Group, Open)

[Saurisisia]

Good, I like diversity in missions, it's like what RL spec ops units engage on.

[Olwe]

SO... with all the new age crap flying I have a question to ask, vamps and lycans always evil or not

No, not always evil. There are good lycans in Olwe. Vamps are good less often, but it is possible.

Actually, I should probably add a lycan character to my GJU roster just for diversity's sake.

Nation Name: The United States of Amerika

Preferred Tech Level(s): "MT"/PMT

Ideals (things seen as good): America! Mom! Apple Pie! (in that order), Democracy! Capitalism! The Second Amendment!
(I'm not being a pretentious bastard either; this is their outlook; I didn't earn the title best-'murica on the whim of it not being so amazingly stereotypical while also being amazingly unique for nothing.)

Things frowned upon: Pinko-Commie-Reds, Anything relating to even remotely the idea of communism or socialism, Russians (which in Amerika means anyone East of Poland but south of the Baltic States excl. Ukraine; much to the insult of most East Europeans). Fascism, I mean like; we fought two world wars to destroy that shit. (Dear God I forgot how much this damages my intelligence)

Anything else we should know? Tis I, Estainia;
Amerika is pretty "realistic: to a point until one considers the Metal Gear-based artillery systems and storylines that mesh overtop of its own plotline as well as clashing with and melding with the Resident Evil series; basically the what I've viewed as "Sensible" "gaming techs"; also includes a lot of basis from Supernatural/Sobernatural and a series I liked called Dollhouse.

Ergo, Pseudo-Realistic Bullshittery, as I call it.
Mostly signed this one up because amazingly Estainia does occasionally get boring.

Welcome, nation I'm well aware of but haven't actually gotten to RP with yet! Hopefully we'll rectify that situation soon, especially since I have RPed with your other nation and therefore know you're good at it.

[Crystal Spires]

Article I.
The Establishment of the Global Justice Unit and Our Purpose:

We the people of the the Global Justice Unit as free nations, and organizations do declare it is matter of pride and honor to establish an organization designed to defend the civil rights and freedom of people throughout the universe, to ensure the survival of those who struggle against oppression and injustice. Our most noble goal is ultimately the promotion of freedom and justice for all beings.

Article II
Membership eligibility and selection
All People in the Global Justice Unit shall be the vanguard of freedom and must come from organizations that promote this honored ideal. Those in the Unit are to be ages 15 and older, and to hold the principles of rule of law and civil rights to be ennumerated in Article III. We shall require those who are willing to stand for their beliefs and take to arms should the shadow of death reach out. Any person to be found not acting in the interests of freedom and justice, or those found to be loyal to or connected to the Enemy shall be immediately sent to court martial to be expelled in the interests of the group.

Article III
Freedoms to be Protected
Freedom of Speech: Everyone shall have the right to freely voice their opinion without interference and exercise of this right carries special duties and responsibilities and may only be subject to restrictions when respect of the rights or reputation of others for the protection of national security or of public order, or of public health are concerned.

Freedom of Press: Everyone shall have the right to freedom to hold opinions without interference, and impart information and ideas through any media regardless of frontiers without interference and exercise of this right carries special duties and responsibilities and may only be subject to restrictions when respect of the rights or reputation of others for the protection of national security or of public order, or of public health are concerned.

Freedom of Assembly: Everyone has the individual right to come together and collectively express, promote, pursue and defend their own common interests.

Freedom of Movement: A citizen of a state has the liberty to travel, reside in, and/or work in any part of the state where they please within the limits of respect for the liberty and rights of others.

Rights of Customs: Everyone has the individual right to leave a state and return at any time.

Freedom from Slavery: No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Freedom of Political Ideology: Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms without distinction of political or other opinion.

Freedom from Discrimination Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, biological gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, language, religion or lack thereof, political or other opinion, species, national or social origin, property, birth, or other status.

Article IV
Officers titles, terms of office, and assembly elections
Our Chairman shall preside over meetings of the Great Assembly and conduct its business in an orderly fashion, and when the Assembly is not in session, the duty of the Chairman includes acting as its head, its representative to the outside world and its spokesperson.

The Deputy Chairman is subordinate to the chairman, and is elected to assist the chairman and to serve as chairman in the absence of the chairman and in case of our Chairman's death or murder, and when a motion involving the chairman is being discussed. In the absence of the chairman and Deputy chairman, a Chairman pro tempore shall be elected in interests of protecting our noble group.

The Remaining Group shall be divided into 2 Major Wings.

The Wing of Military Force:
Shall be led by the General of the Global Justice Unit who is the Leader of the Military Wing and will control the military command structure to respond to any threats by land, air, sea and the void.

Then the Field Marshall Shall lead the next available level of our organization. Every member shall be made available for immediate deployment anywhere it is needed. Upon a war declaration the Field Marshall leads all troops until which time an inter-alliance command structure is set up.

Our Operations Commander comes up with general strategic plans, and controls the planning for any war we enter.

Our Resource assessment Commander shall ensure that all members shall receive all and any aid and resources they need to get an operation done, and also shall control the distribution and allocation of all aid from the Diplomatic Wing.

Our Dispute Settlement Mediator is responsible for acting as a go between in settling all disputes between members in war time and in times of peace they are to become the Lawyer on behalf of the Military.

The Diplomatic Wing

The Director of the Diplomatic Wing shall control all actions of the Diplomatic wing, and holds the power to decide all diplomatic actions of the Global Justice Unit. This means the power to condemn, commend, or blacklist conflicts and/or nations and to decide the future of our political relations internationally. They shall be subject to the decisions made in the assembly and to the Chairman and Co Chair.

The Minister of the Foreign Relations Controls all diplomatic actions and is representative to other major alliances.

The Director of Intelligence watches all action and movements of the enemy and neutral nations and reports major actionable offenses to the Assembly. All intelligence gathered by them is given directly to the Director of the Diplomatic Wing and the General of the Falconites for immediate use.

The Chief Economic Minister shall controls all aid, as well as watching all the economies internationally to be able to secure foreign investments.

The Intelligence Agency Head Shall direct all covert actions of sabotage against enemies of our people, and to limit their ability to seek out alliances, aid and comfort using whatever means at their disposal.

Article V
Meetings of the Grand Assembly
The Grand Assembly in times of shall meet every day to ensure the promotion of Justice and freedom. They are to include representatives from all nations in the Global Justice Unit.

Article VI
Right to assess aid and contributions
All aid and contributions shall be subject to the Grand Assembly, and decisions to use such aid shall be decided in the Assembly.

Article VII
Amendment Process
All proposals for amending the constitution must be filled with 2 weeks notice and they shall be voted in or rejected by 2/3 majority in our assembly.

Criticize it^

[Sakarnen]

Olwe, my suggestion of having it be a Spec Ops groups entails that it be stealth and covert, which means High Tech nations must blend into lower tech nations, and vice versa, which is much easier done by the higher tech nations just giving lower tech nation operatives the tech they need to be passably stealthy in the planet/location they are on. It also allows the different cultures to be explored as well, as there being a bit of a higher chance of meeting with locals and culture shock. Which are both fun as fun can be.

The problem with this is that Strykla's character is a bird (or bird anthro? not sure, I'd have to look it up), which makes it kind of hard zto fit in. Other than that, you're right.

[Crystal Spires]

The problem with this is that Strykla's character is a bird (or bird anthro? not sure, I'd have to look it up), which makes it kind of hard zto fit in. Other than that, you're right.

That is ABSOLUTELY not a problem, because a sapient bird would be able to spy VERY easily, as the people who are being spied upon will dismiss his birds as just being birds. It will end up making them crucial agents on the field.

If they are Birdmen, then this makes it even less of a problem.

[Sakarnen]

The problem with this is that Strykla's character is a bird (or bird anthro? not sure, I'd have to look it up), which makes it kind of hard zto fit in. Other than that, you're right.

That is ABSOLUTELY not a problem, because a sapient bird would be able to spy VERY easily, as the people who are being spied upon will dismiss his birds as just being birds. It will end up making them crucial agents on the field.

If they are Birdmen, then this makes it even less of a problem.

Right. Blame themy recent sleeping problems, please. <- me at myself
(It would mean that they'd be restricted mostly to the outside, though? A (fairly large IIRC) bird entering a building would be somewhat unusual.)

[Olwe]

Note: Things to omit, mostly as a result of spelling and grammar, are struck out, while things to add are in bold. Questions/comments/other concerns will be in italics.

Article I.
The Establishment of the Global Justice Unit and Our Purpose:

We the people of the the Global Justice Unit as free nations, and organizations do declare it is a matter of pride and honor to establish an organization designed to defend the civil rights and freedoms of people throughout the universe, to ensure the survival of those who struggle against oppression and injustice. Our most noble goal is ultimately the promotion of freedom and justice for all beings.

Article II
Membership eligibility and selection
All People in the Global Justice Unit shall be the vanguard of freedom and must come from organizations that promote this honored ideal. Those in the Unit are to be ages 15 and older (So species discrimination is at work here?), and to hold the principles of rule of law and civil rights to be ennumerated in Article III. We shall require those who are willing to stand for their beliefs and take to arms should the shadow of death reach out. Any person to be found not acting in the interests of freedom and justice shall be immediately sent to court martial to be expelled in the interests of the group. Those found to be loyal to or connected to the Enemy shall be summarily executed as traitors, after extensive interrogation. (You have Olweans in this organization. SOME Olwean doctrine must still be observed.)

Article III
Freedoms to be Protected
Freedom of Speech: Everyone shall have the right to freely voice their opinion without interference and exercise of this right carries special duties and responsibilities and may only be subject to restrictions when respect of the rights or reputation of others for the protection of national security or of public order, or of public health are concerned. Not sure what to put there to make it look and sound like, well, English, but I don't fully get that sentence the way it is now... go for a simpler wording, please.

Freedom of Press: Everyone shall have the right to freedom to hold opinions without interference, and impart information and ideas through any media regardless of frontiers without interference and exercise of this right carries special duties and responsibilities and may only be subject to restrictions when respect of the rights or reputation of others for the protection of national security or of public order, or of public health are concerned. You're the one who wanted this to be a covert group... covert groups don't have freedom of press.

Freedom of Assembly: Everyone has the individual right to come together and collectively express, promote, pursue and defend their own common interests.

Freedom of Movement: A citizen of a state has the liberty to travel, reside in, and/or work in any part of the state where they please within the limits of respect for the liberty and rights of others.

Rights of Customs: Everyone has the individual right to leave a state and return at any time.

Freedom from Slavery: No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Freedom of Political Ideology: Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms without distinction of political or other opinion.

Freedom from Discrimination: Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, biological gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, language, religion or lack thereof, political or other opinion, species, national or social origin, property, birth, or other status.

Article IV
Officers titles, terms of office, and assembly elections
Our Chairman shall preside over meetings of the Great Assembly and conduct its business in an orderly fashion, and when the Assembly is not in session, the duty of the Chairman includes acting as its head, its representative to the outside world and its spokesperson.

The Deputy Chairman is subordinate to the chairman, and is elected to assist the chairman and to serve as chairman in the absence of the chairman and in case of our the (It flows better if you don't abruptly change words.) Chairman's death or murder, and or when a motion involving the chairman is being discussed. In the absence of the Chairman and Deputy Chairman, a Chairman pro tempore (Put an English translation here for those of us who aren't Latin scholars.) shall be elected in the interests of protecting our noble group.

The Remaining Group shall be divided into 2 Major Wings.

The Wing of Military Force:
Shall be led by the General of the Global Justice Unit who is the Leader of the Military Wing and will control the military command structure to respond to any threats by land, air, sea and the void.

Then the Field Marshall shall lead the next available level of our organization. Every member shall be made available for immediate deployment anywhere it is they are needed. Upon a war declaration the Field Marshall leads all troops until which such time as an inter-alliance command structure is set up.

Our Operations Commander comes up with general strategic plans, and controls the planning for any war we enter.

Our Resource Assessment (It looks weird if one word in the title isn't capitalized when the others are.) Commander shall ensure that all members shall receive all and any any and all aid and resources they need to get an operation done, and also shall control the distribution and allocation of all aid from the Diplomatic Wing.

Our Dispute Settlement Mediator is responsible for acting as a go-between in settling all disputes between members in war time and in times of peace. They (Fixed run-on sentence.) are to become the Lawyer on behalf of the Military.

The Diplomatic Wing

The Director of the Diplomatic Wing shall control all actions of the Diplomatic Wing (Make up my mind. Is it capitalized, or not?), and holds the power to decide all diplomatic actions of the Global Justice Unit. This means the power to condemn, commend, or blacklist conflicts and/or nations and to decide the future of our political relations internationally. They shall be subject to the decisions made in the Assembly and to the Chairman and Co Chair.

The Minister of the Foreign Relations controls (Unless that word was part of his title, or the start of another sentence, there was no need to capitalize it.) all diplomatic actions and is will act as the representative to other major alliances.

The Director of Intelligence watches all actions and movements of the enemy and neutral nations and reports major actionable offenses to the Assembly. All intelligence gathered by them is given directly to the Director of the Diplomatic Wing and the General of the Falconites (The what now?) Global Justice Unit for immediate use.

The Chief Economic Minister shall controls (It's neither plural nor the right tense.) all aid, as well as watching all the economies internationally to be able to secure foreign investments.

The Intelligence Agency Head Shall direct all covert actions of sabotage against enemies of our people, and to limit their ability to seek out alliances, aid and comfort using whatever means at their disposal. (I like this. Finally, we get to the part where the Olweans are still allowed to torture people.)

Article V
Meetings of the Grand Assembly
The Grand Assembly in times of (In times of what?) shall meet every day to ensure the promotion of Justice and freedom (Why does justice get capitalized here? Is freedom less important, or is Justice a person or place?). They are to include representatives from all nations in the Global Justice Unit. (I like this, it adds some parity among the member nations.

Article VI
Right to assess aid and contributions
All aid and contributions shall be subject to the Grand Assembly, and decisions to use such aid shall be decided in the Assembly.

Article VII
Amendment Process
All proposals for amending the constitution must be filled (Unless they're drinks, I think you meant "filed", not "filled".) with 2 weeks notice and they shall be voted in or rejected by a 2/3 majority in our assembly.

Criticize it^

Okay, so that was mostly me being a Grammar Nazi. But other stuff too, so look it over.

[Sakarnen]

Would the bit about slavery and servitude preven my character to be there on behalf of Sakarnen, by the way? I could always make him do it on his own, if that's the case...

[Lazssia]

I agree with Olwe on the matter of public press, a lot of what cover ops organizations do to attain their goals are -when you really get down to it- illegal, that's why they're covert. You can't receive flak for breaking the rules if you don't exist.

[Olwe]

Would the bit about slavery and servitude preven my character to be there on behalf of Sakarnen, by the way? I could always make him do it on his own, if that's the case...

I think with some modification to that -- after all, under Olwean standards your servants are technically getting paid -- you'd be fine.

[Sakarnen]

Would the bit about slavery and servitude preven my character to be there on behalf of Sakarnen, by the way? I could always make him do it on his own, if that's the case...

I think with some modification to that -- after all, under Olwean standards your servants are technically getting paid -- you'd be fine.

Ah, good. Thanks.

[The Unified Earth Governments]

Thats Field Commander Marsh and 023-5428 Reticent Chorus to you pal.

All the more reason to not have you as commanding officer =/

"It seems your military officials cannot sharpen you all up, this is a military operation, not kindergarten."

"Oh lighten up you old man."

[The Unified Earth Governments]

Also if my character is loosing his control before the RP even begins I might not participate.

I don't play that shit, it happens to much for me, it gets tiring real fast, and it is a reason to why I can't complete certain role plays.

[Gorgashia]

Also if my character is loosing his control before the RP even begins I might not participate.

I don't play that shit, it happens to much for me, it gets tiring real fast, and it is a reason to why I can't complete certain role plays.

I don't see why that's unreasonable.

Everyone's characters save for Olwe's won't be in charge of the GJU.

[Olwe]

Also if my character is loosing his control before the RP even begins I might not participate.

I don't play that shit, it happens to much for me, it gets tiring real fast, and it is a reason to why I can't complete certain role plays.

There's a lot of different positions to fill if we go with Spires' Assembly idea... your character doesn't necessarily have to not be in a command position, it's just going to be more about sharing command in order to keep everyone cooperating with each other.

[The Unified Earth Governments]

Also if my character is loosing his control before the RP even begins I might not participate.

I don't play that shit, it happens to much for me, it gets tiring real fast, and it is a reason to why I can't complete certain role plays.

I don't see why that's unreasonable.

Everyone's characters save for Olwe's won't be in charge of the GJU.

Here's the problem.

I came in to the GJU thing promised that I would get to Rp a Commanding character who received orders from Olwe (Or something to that effect.) thus making the RP unique.

Then people start complaining and I am moved out of that position to use that specific character, it not only means I was lied to from a promise, but it also means a change happened without my own input.

The same thing happened in FAR, and it's happening again it seems. It is real annoying, but I might still RP, if I can be promised that nothing is going to drastically change. To were I cannot use a character I applied, it's a lot like promising a kid to take them to Disney land, and when they wait long enough you just take them to some shitty carnival that is not what they expected, for the fourth time in a roll.

I have a clear reason to feel betrayed or even upset.

Also if my character is loosing his control before the RP even begins I might not participate.

I don't play that shit, it happens to much for me, it gets tiring real fast, and it is a reason to why I can't complete certain role plays.

There's a lot of different positions to fill if we go with Spires' Assembly idea... your character doesn't necessarily have to not be in a command position, it's just going to be more about sharing command in order to keep everyone cooperating with each other.

They only reason that would come up is because people deep inside feel that they are being treated unfair.

But fine, if you play it like that, who is he sharing command with?

[Thoricia]

I think the age part of the whatchamacallit should be dropped too, different species age differently, I'd have to go back and look but I think fifteen precludes Stryklas character

EDIT: It does Stykla's guy is only twleve.

[G-Tech Corporation]

It in doubt: kill UEG's happiness.

Frankly mate, you have a tendency to wank/want petty authority, and get pissy if that doesn't happen. You should be content with RPing as one of the boys and at the same level as everyone else; collaborative roleplay is an equal-power dynamic, not a disparate one.

[Crystal Spires]

This is fair, I can remove the age part but my reason for putting it up is to forbid child soldiers, because that's generally the purview of hilariously corrupt states.

[G-Tech Corporation]

This is fair, I can remove the age part but my reason for putting it up is to forbid child soldiers, because that's generally the purview of hilariously corrupt states.

*carefully removes child soldiers from his app*

Nope, I never would have used enslaved children, nope.

[Thoricia]

The GJU is just not working out, I think; while the idea of 'screw realism' sounds just fine, in practice I now see the problems. Such vast technological differences make any RP hideously unbalanced; I honestly probably have the least advanced character here - a bird that relies mostly on sharp, pointy objects to deal pain with a little bit of The Force thrown in because otherwise anyone would wipe the floor with him. And than you have someone like UEG who is Halo-level advanced with power armored supermen and loads and loads of planets(The Raptorwatch Empire, for comparison, extends a few thousand square kilometers, maybe the size of Germany IRL).

Admittedly, you are out-teched. I honestly don't know what to do about that at this point... if anyone has any ideas that won't completely prevent the higher-tech nations from participating (note that complete prevention of participation for FT nations would make me unable to RP my own idea), then they should speak up.

And before anyone says "no vehicles" again, note that we will need a way for the non-teleportation-capable nations to get their GJU members to the intended mission destinations, some of which will be across oceans or even on other planets.

Even if you are out teched you're a birdman for crying out loud, supereyes, flight, and silent 90mph assault dives with sharp metal objects makes you a fearsome fearsome creature, the only limits you have in my eyes are the ones you put on yourself, even with modern tech you should be more than able keep pace with the more advanced tech characters.

[Olwe]

This is fair, I can remove the age part but my reason for putting it up is to forbid child soldiers, because that's generally the purview of hilariously corrupt states.

Do what Olwe does in order to prevent arbitrary numerical designations... just say "level of puberty or higher".

[Thoricia]

This is fair, I can remove the age part but my reason for putting it up is to forbid child soldiers, because that's generally the purview of hilariously corrupt states.

I knew what you meant and I totally understand it maybe something worded to the effect of mature age pertaining to species

[Crystal Spires]

And before anyone says "no vehicles" again, note that we will need a way for the non-teleportation-capable nations to get their GJU members to the intended mission destinations, some of which will be across oceans or even on other planets.

Loaned and borrowed Tech. I thought I mentioned this?

Also UEG this is why when the suggestion was brought up in the beginning I spoke to Olwe declaring my concern with giving you any leadership position at all. You declare yourself the most important person in an RP and tend to throw angry fits that get you warned or banned. You have had trouble with the mods in the past. It is outrageously common with most, if not all of your puppet nations which is saying something because you have more puppets than I do.

[G-Tech Corporation]

And before anyone says "no vehicles" again, note that we will need a way for the non-teleportation-capable nations to get their GJU members to the intended mission destinations, some of which will be across oceans or even on other planets.

Loaned and borrowed Tech. I thought I mentioned this?

Also UEG this is why when the suggestion was brought up in the beginning I spoke to Olwe declaring my concern with giving you any leadership position at all. You declare yourself the most important person in an RP and tend to throw angry fits that get you warned or banned. You have had trouble with the mods in the past. It is outrageously common with most, if not all of your puppet nations which is saying something because you have more puppets than I do.

Hear hear.