Uldartre academy (IC, Semi-open)

[New Cinoth]

"But that's the point. No rules allow infinite freedom to purse what makes you happy. Therefore each person can purse their own path to divinity without having to worry about getting in trouble. An ordered society is no place to test who you truly are because the rules and regulation will hold you back and prevent you from acting the way you want to."

[Sauritican]

"But that's the point. No rules allow infinite freedom to purse what makes you happy. Therefore each person can purse their own path to divinity without having to worry about getting in trouble. An ordered society is no place to test who you truly are because the rules and regulation will hold you back and prevent you from acting the way you want to."

"There's no point in infinite freedom, it only allows people to do whatever the heck they want, and humanity as a whole couldn't handle that, heck even the dinosaurs at my home probably couldn't handle it."

[New Cinoth]

"That's pretty sad when people can't handle more freedom. But why couldn't they? I handle it just fine and I'm no different from you." Lucis sighed, "Are your people not able to think for themselves or govern their own actions?" What an odd thing to say, of course humanity can survive without rules! We've been doing it since the day we were born.

[Sauritican]

"That's pretty sad when people can't handle more freedom. But why couldn't they? I handle it just fine and I'm no different from you." Lucis sighed, "Are your people not able to think for themselves or govern their own actions?" What an odd thing to say, of course humanity can survive without rules! We've been doing it since the day we were born.

"Most people are unable to handle it, whenever a government collapses, civil unrest always follows, the best government is the kind that can make sure it's citizens don't commit crime and punishes them harshly if they do commit a crime, I've told you about the Gladiator's in my country right?"

[New Cinoth]

"But after the unrest a new age beings, one of freedom. It creates an unbreakable will to be free at any cost, which certainly helps during times of invasion." Lucis paused, "Punishing crime. But what makes what is considered wrong so wrong?" He nodded, "You have told me about the gladiators. I find it funny that they are allowed to kill while others are not. It doesn't seem fair."

[Sauritican]

"But after the unrest a new age beings, one of freedom. It creates an unbreakable will to be free at any cost, which certainly helps during times of invasion." Lucis paused, "Punishing crime. But what makes what is considered wrong so wrong?" He nodded, "You have told me about the gladiators. I find it funny that they are allowed to kill while others are not. It doesn't seem fair."

"It's a way to punish prisoners, it's basically an execution method, and of course there's volunteering, but you'd have to go through a pretty long process, and burglary, robbery, rape, etc, why would we not punish people who commit those crimes?"

[New Cinoth]

"But why are they crimes? Are they crimes simply because you hurt another? Because taking jobs and firing people also hurts them. I do not see why countries still cling to such sill preconceptions such as crime and morality. It all seems so pointless from my perspective."

[Sauritican]

"But why are they crimes? Are they crimes simply because you hurt another? Because taking jobs and firing people also hurts them. I do not see why countries still cling to such sill preconceptions such as crime and morality. It all seems so pointless from my perspective."

"Because we actually know the difference between wrong and right, and what do you mean taking jobs?"

[New Cinoth]

"By taking jobs I mean replacing someone higher up with yourself, removing that person from their position to further your own goals. That also hurts the person who is moved, not physical but it still hurts them." Lucis sighed, "Still what is right and wrong? Andreas does what he thinks is right and you do what you think is right. So which one is right and which one is wrong? right and wrong, in my opinion, are silly made up ideas that people use to control others and force them into doing what they want."

[Inquilabstan]

"By taking jobs I mean replacing someone higher up with yourself, removing that person from their position to further your own goals. That also hurts the person who is moved, not physical but it still hurts them." Lucis sighed, "Still what is right and wrong? Andreas does what he thinks is right and you do what you think is right. So which one is right and which one is wrong? right and wrong, in my opinion, are silly made up ideas that people use to control others and force them into doing what they want."

"Entirely correct. Everything is subject in that sense. Right and wrong have no meaning, and are just codes or labels which we apply as we see fit, or as would benefit us. Those words are quite often just means to avoid cognitive dissonance. And traditional morals just prop up patriarchal exploitative systems in supposedly developed or civilized societies. Still, I agree with Jose in that we can set vague or basic guidelines as to what marks common perceptions of right and wrong, good and evil."

[Oogium]

Jairawn whistled into the comm link. "Hello? Can someone please tell me-" SREECH- "goddamit Mai Kot rai tha pei-" BAM- "Ow. Okay, so, could someone tell me what I've missed, please, before Mai totals my brand-new car?"

[Sauritican]

"By taking jobs I mean replacing someone higher up with yourself, removing that person from their position to further your own goals. That also hurts the person who is moved, not physical but it still hurts them." Lucis sighed, "Still what is right and wrong? Andreas does what he thinks is right and you do what you think is right. So which one is right and which one is wrong? right and wrong, in my opinion, are silly made up ideas that people use to control others and force them into doing what they want."

"Sauitican's legal system makes sure that corruption and exploitation doesn't happen."

[New Cinoth]

'Still what separates the good from the evil? I don't see what makes one person good and another evil." Lucis looked at Jose, "But the legal system controls other by forcing the writers' wills on the people who follow it." A noise sounded from the comn link, "I guess someone's going to have to answer that." He picked it up, "Nothing much is going on, just a discussion on philosophy and the difference between good and evil, or the lack of difference."

[Sauritican]

Jairawn whistled into the comm link. "Hello? Can someone please tell me-" SREECH- "goddamit Mai Kot rai tha pei-" BAM- "Ow. Okay, so, could someone tell me what I've missed, please, before Mai totals my brand-new car?"

"I'll answer it." he answers the comm, "We're just talking about the difference of mortality between me and Lucis, if that's what you mean."

[Inquilabstan]

Jairawn whistled into the comm link. "Hello? Can someone please tell me-" SREECH- "goddamit Mai Kot rai tha pei-" BAM- "Ow. Okay, so, could someone tell me what I've missed, please, before Mai totals my brand-new car?"

"I'll answer it." he answers the comm, "We're just talking about the difference of mortality between me and Lucis, if that's what you mean."

"Speaking of that, has anyone else noticed how often our conversations turn to philosophical debates? I feel as though we are living in a sort of Atlas Shrugged!"

[Sauritican]

"I'll answer it." he answers the comm, "We're just talking about the difference of mortality between me and Lucis, if that's what you mean."

"Speaking of that, has anyone else noticed how often our conversations turn to philosophical debates? I feel as though we are living in a sort of Atlas Shrugged!"

"I don't know what that is, but our conversations always do seem to, very interesting."

[New Cinoth]

"It seems to be the by-product of mixing all our cultures together. There where bound to be differences and instead of killing each other we simply discuss our beliefs openly. It is quite an interesting occurrence, now if only politicians did the same thing."

[Inquilabstan]

"Why would politicians do such a thing? They generally thrive upon conflict like maggots upon a dead fish. Frankly though, I'm surprised that more of us haven't tried, or succeded in attempts upon each others lives, given some of our backgrounds."

[New Cinoth]

"Most countries are unwilling to discuss things, I was just hoping that maybe the world is changing. But you are correct. That's why politicians usually end up on the diner table as soon as they enter." Lucis nodded, "Indeed. I'm not going to try anything because I do not currently see a situation that I can gain something from your deaths, however if the twins were here someone would probably be dead by nightfall."

[Vakolic]

"Well," Camelia said, dipping her finger in the latest argument..
"Vakolicci politicians tend to have to spend most of there time and energy avoiding war...because the Vakolicci are not generally known for our peace-loving attitude, so it's difficult to get a decent trade treaty in.

Oh..." she said, looking at Andreas "Tell me. If I was to remove your testicles, with a large blunt knife, while you were tied down to a stone slab, would you be considered male? I've often wondered that sort of thing...because you're only about 12, so you've not fully developed yet, so would your absurd society class you as genderless?"

((ooc: App trumps factbook. Andreas is 15 in your factbook, but 13 in the app.))

[Saintland]

"Well," Camelia said, dipping her finger in the latest argument..
"Vakolicci politicians tend to have to spend most of there time and energy avoiding war...because the Vakolicci are not generally known for our peace-loving attitude, so it's difficult to get a decent trade treaty in.

Oh..." she said, looking at Andreas "Tell me. If I was to remove your testicles, with a large blunt knife, while you were tied down to a stone slab, would you be considered male? I've often wondered that sort of thing...because you're only about 12, so you've not fully developed yet, so would your absurd society class you as genderless?"

((ooc: App trumps factbook. Andreas is 15 in your factbook, but 13 in the app.))

"What? We are born male or female. It is not possible to change that. There was a heretic named Origen who cut off his reproductive parts, but his teachings were condemned by the Council of 553. That didn't change the fact that he was a man, even if he did commit a serious sin by doing that."

((ooc: Andreas is 13. The factbook was in error.))

[Vakolic]

"Well," Camelia responded. "If I removed them, at least your idiotic nation would have one less person who could reproduce, so everyone wins. Lucis, could you help with the surgery?"

[New Cinoth]

"I can. It's not complicated at all. In fact, I'm sure I could think of many different experiments that would be much more painful, not to mention traumatizing." Lucis nodded, "All it really takes is a heavy object and a pair of sharp scissors or another cutting implement."

[Saintland]

"You will do nothing of the sort!" Leva protested. "What about Master Andreas's future wife?" That will be me, I hope and I certainly want him to be capable of satisfying me. I won't let them do this to him.

[New Cinoth]

"You're right... What will she say? Let's find out!" Lucis paused, "So, Leva, What is you opinion about the severing of his reproductive organs? Has it affected your marriage?" He began to laugh, "I'm certain you'll be fine," His eyes narrowed, "After all if you did love him that wouldn't matter."