Terra Firma, Planning and discussion

[The Akasha Colony]

No takers for any others?.

We lack the industrialization and technology necessary to be of much direct assistance, however, we could send our brightest scientific minds who may be useful in the development of some of these products, we could also attempt to give some degree of financial assistance to help fund the projects. Seeing as you're probably our closest ally we'd do what we could, though we'd obviously expect access to the GPS Network or being granted phased out planes you'd be replacing with the newer ones, ect.

Money, by and large, is what I'm looking for. I have the expertise (most first-world nations would), but sharing costs is always nice. And yes, of course we'd open up our GPS network to co-funders.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Medeshahr raises an interesting way for how diplomatic recognition could be fought for in the notUN (lol). I imagine the major powers going "lol nope" to the fascists trying to gain recognition while smaller powers recognize away. I would like for the first diplomatic blow to come in late 1977 when the Counteroffensives successfully ward off a southward effort to take Keinsteinem and pour down the three crucial states (Onostov, Kastein, and Darthur) to take the rest of Lanos.

[Virana]

Medeshahr raises an interesting way for how diplomatic recognition could be fought for in the notUN (lol). I imagine the major powers going "lol nope" to the fascists trying to gain recognition while smaller powers recognize away. I would like for the first diplomatic blow to come in late 1977 when the Counteroffensives successfully ward off a southward effort to take Keinsteinem and pour down the three crucial states (Onostov, Kastein, and Darthur) to take the rest of Lanos.

Right, that sounds good.

[Junghuwa]

Hey guys!
This is Ea90's TF nation, the Great Qing Empire of Junghuwa. Junghuwa is essentially China, but if the Xinhai Revolution had failed and the Qing Dynasty continued to rule. Due to the lack of the 1950s-1960s government program to encourage people to have as many kids as possibly, the population in 2013 would be around 750 million (rather than >1.3 billion). Junghuwa occupies the areas of China and Mongolia not taken up by Spirit of Hope's nation. I imagine its GDP would be around $6 trillion (about half of RL China's), giving a GDPPC of $8000.
There are about 600,000 active personnel in the Junghuwan Military. I haven't consulted Havenwalde about this yet, but I imagine Junghuwa's military to have been mainly armed with German-based equipment (for rifles the Hanyang 88, designated the Type 88, from 1888 until 1935, when it was replaced by the Chiang Kai Shek Rifle, designated the Type 35, and for pistols the C96, designated the Type 11 or something etc.) until the 1960s, when there was a major revamp and the New Armies were unified, to form the New Unified Great Qing Army. This Army would be armed with a variety of more modern equipment (possibly NC's ART-64, some sort of relatively modern pistol etc.). I'm not really sure what would have been used as far as tanks are concerned, but I do plan on designing an MBT for modern day Junhuwa. The Junhuwan Navy and Air Force wouldn't be very significant at all.
E: I believe that the password I was given was incorrect. T'would be much appreciated if it could be resent.

[Coltarin]

On all those weapons-

Im already doing so. Would you like to work together on a bomber?

I'm interested we need to keep those evil NACO'ers down.

[The Republic of Lanos]

On all those weapons-

Im already doing so. Would you like to work together on a bomber?

I'm interested we need to keep those evil NACO'ers down.

Nice try.

[The Akasha Colony]

On all those weapons-

Im already doing so. Would you like to work together on a bomber?

Yeah, the bomber is the big-ticket item. ATGMs are relatively cheap and I was just seeing if I could drum up interest from others.

[Puzikas]

Hey guys!
This is Ea90's TF nation, the Great Qing Empire of Junghuwa. Junghuwa is essentially China, but if the Xinhai Revolution had failed and the Qing Dynasty continued to rule. Due to the lack of the 1950s-1960s government program to encourage people to have as many kids as possibly, the population in 2013 would be around 750 million (rather than >1.3 billion). Junghuwa occupies the areas of China and Mongolia not taken up by Spirit of Hope's nation. I imagine its GDP would be around $6 trillion (about half of RL China's), giving a GDPPC of $8000.
There are about 600,000 active personnel in the Junghuwan Military. I haven't consulted Havenwalde about this yet, but I imagine Junghuwa's military to have been mainly armed with German-based equipment (for rifles the Hanyang 88, designated the Type 88, from 1888 until 1935, when it was replaced by the Chiang Kai Shek Rifle, designated the Type 35, and for pistols the C96, designated the Type 11 or something etc.) until the 1960s, when there was a major revamp and the New Armies were unified, to form the New Unified Great Qing Army. This Army would be armed with a variety of more modern equipment (possibly NC's ART-64, some sort of relatively modern pistol etc.). I'm not really sure what would have been used as far as tanks are concerned, but I do plan on designing an MBT for modern day Junhuwa. The Junhuwan Navy and Air Force wouldn't be very significant at all.
E: I believe that the password I was given was incorrect. T'would be much appreciated if it could be resent.

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I am so happy right now.
notChina analog...

On all those weapons-

Im already doing so. Would you like to work together on a bomber?

I'm interested we need to keep those evil NACO'ers down.

Im not adopting the hate NACO policy immediately, and I'm not trying to start an arms race...yet.

On all those weapons-

Im already doing so. Would you like to work together on a bomber?

Yeah, the bomber is the big-ticket item. ATGMs are relatively cheap and I was just seeing if I could drum up interest from others.

Ive already developed my ATGM, sorry.
But I would be happy to help with the bomber.

[Junghuwa]

...

I am so happy right now.
notChina analog...

*bows*

[The Republic of Lanos]

What, no Republic of China?

[The Akasha Colony]

Ive already developed my ATGM, sorry.
But I would be happy to help with the bomber.

I know, but since the ATGM was so low on the list and relatively low-cost to develop, it didn't really matter. Now pretty much all of the big-budget items are taken care of (the fighter, the GPS network, and the bomber).

[Puzikas]

...

I am so happy right now.
notChina analog...

*bows*

You should send me a message as soon as you officially join.
We have much to discuss.

Ive already developed my ATGM, sorry.
But I would be happy to help with the bomber.

I know, but since the ATGM was so low on the list and relatively low-cost to develop, it didn't really matter. Now pretty much all of the big-budget items are taken care of (the fighter, the GPS network, and the bomber).

I've got my fighter and I'm sticking with the GLONASS system, so bomber all all I will take part in.

[Coltarin]

I'm interested we need to keep those evil NACO'ers down.

Im not adopting the hate NACO policy immediately, and I'm not trying to start an arms race...yet.

I'm going to have a lingering distrust of the western powers for abandoning us first to the Nazis then to the Soviets.

[Medeshahr]

Im not adopting the hate NACO policy immediately, and I'm not trying to start an arms race...yet.

I'm going to have a lingering distrust of the western powers for abandoning us first to the Nazis then to the Soviets.

I'll have the same "lingering distrust of" ... better called a "blatant disgust for" NACO powers for that whole invasion thing. Lol,

[Aqizithiuda]

Im not adopting the hate NACO policy immediately, and I'm not trying to start an arms race...yet.

I'm going to have a lingering distrust of the western powers for abandoning us first to the Nazis then to the Soviets.

I think you were already conquered at that point. GW1 ends with Germany surrendering to me as I come knocking on their doorstep. Of course, they ended up getting to control you during GW2 because Trigg was having too much fun fighting the Soviets.

[Coltarin]

I'm going to have a lingering distrust of the western powers for abandoning us first to the Nazis then to the Soviets.

I think you were already conquered at that point. GW1 ends with Germany surrendering to me as I come knocking on their doorstep. Of course, they ended up getting to control you during GW2 because Trigg was having too much fun fighting the Soviets.

Where is your claim

[Aqizithiuda]

I think you were already conquered at that point. GW1 ends with Germany surrendering to me as I come knocking on their doorstep. Of course, they ended up getting to control you during GW2 because Trigg was having too much fun fighting the Soviets.

Where is your claim

Pre-GW2 map.

The dark purple is me currently, the green is me pre GW2, red is Spree, yellow is Germany.

[Transnapastain]

First try at a map for Costa Mejis here.



Yellow is paved, highway style road. Black circles are cities, red is the capital. Where the roads terminate in the mountains is when it stops being highway style roads and goes back to being winding, turning, two-lane paved road. I imagine theirs railroads, too and maybe I'll add them. Military bases are not marked, yet, but I imagine you can guess where some of them are.

The northern area, the area hemmed in by mountains, is nominally under government control. We have the city, but the countryside is contested, and there's constantly low intensity fighting for control of the ONLY tunnel onto the region. As you may imagine, that mountain valley area is rather fertile, and something we don't want to lose (I'm going to say a god portion of our agricultural exports are grown there...usually by government owned or run farms with militia (or maybe even private security....anyone interested?) guarding them...and dealing with rebels who want to seize the food wealth, the city, and the area, for themselves and establish an independent Mayan state.

Scale is wonky, I know. I'm shit at map making, but the nations entire area is about 523,780 km2

Thoughts, questions, problems?

[Licana]

As I think my puppet will be fairly reliant on food imports from Mejis, I'm sure you could find no shortage of private contractors within Bosque to help out with that.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Damn the TF forum is dead. ;_;

[Transnapastain]

Fullsize drop box:
Map with numbers
Map without numbers

Names need to change, obviously



1. South Bosque: Maybe a breakaway province from the main Bosque land?

2. Bosquanos: Maybe an independent nation where Bosque and Lanos ethnic groups have mixed, or clashed. Maybe one, or both, nations are trying to exert control over this nation.

3. Pinkoia: Surprising not Commies, this nation needs a story

4. North Bananastan: Has been fighting with S. Bananastan for generations. A truce accepted by both nations separates the nations along a DMZ, which is...mostly...respected. This nation needs more structure, and it shoul d be idelogiclly opposed to S. Bananastan. Someone could ally with/support this one, maybe the PLU will do it, maybe the Kursk Accords nations will.

5, South Bananastan: The same thing as above, but reverse the names. Lanos/NACO whoever could support this one (since it shares a land border)

Our own little version of the Korean Conflict....South America style!

Thoughts?

[The Republic of Lanos]

That's what I need on the border of my southern territorial bloc...a powderkeg.

[Transnapastain]

That's what I need on the border of my southern territorial bloc...a powderkeg plot device.

[The Republic of Lanos]

That's what I need on the border of my southern territorial bloc...a powderkeg plot device.

After the civil war at least...

And that #2 nation?

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Exactly why I love Trans, he always sees a potential plot device.