Terra Firma, Planning and discussion

[Spirit of Hope]

Erisanta's economy is big.



Edit: Puzikas big even.

I'm essentially south korea, but with a much later population. Thats what I base most of my numbers off of.

Edit: I also just went through and fixed up some issues I had created with my economy. I think I had mixed up PPP, which was making me look much better than reality.

[The Republic of Lanos]

I spend 4% on my defense budget.

[Sevvania]

I spend 4% on my defense budget.

NationStates says Sevvania's defense budget is 10%.

But it also says my population is 7.331 billion, so... I'm not sure that'll work here.

[Transnapastain]

I spend 4% on my defense budget.

NationStates says Sevvania's defense budget is 10%.

But it also says my population is 7.331 billion, so... I'm not sure that'll work here.

I had intended to just use IRL Aussieland for you?

[Sevvania]

NationStates says Sevvania's defense budget is 10%.

But it also says my population is 7.331 billion, so... I'm not sure that'll work here.

I had intended to just use IRL Aussieland for you?

That would probably be as good a reference point as any.

[Puzikas]

Do we have a Switzerland?

Of not, we totally should.

[Premislyd]

Do we have a Switzerland?

Of not, we totally should.

Renaldia and notFrance have it.

[Puzikas]

They should have some sort of intergovernmental agreement with that particular region then.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Do we have a Switzerland?

Of not, we totally should.

Yeah we should but I took their guns. :/

[Transnapastain]

There's no real point to having one now.

[The Kievan People]

I'm essentially south korea, but with a much later population. Thats what I base most of my numbers off of

There's ur problem.

You are basically claiming to not just be a major power, but one of the top powers in the world.

[Kalumba II]

So in regards to the Oranje Vrijstaat now the have a player some things need discussing.

Sanctions? Yes/no? Also SOUP will be blockading them, is this going to cause any sort of major incidents?

Are they going to be a pariah state? If so to the same extent as real life?

Just want to work out where everone stands so I, and SOUP, can form a new opinion on you all. It will also affect chances of winning the dam contract if you recognise them/sell them weapons etc.

Could do with getting this bashed out fellas. Not to try and curb Ali's roleplaying but surely having the Vrijstaat sanction free doesn't fit with TFs realism based nature?

In already established history all the white regimes in Africa are under sanctions, and that is why majority rule exists. If the Vijstaat is never under sanctions then the Kalumban minority regime never falls and neither do the others in Africa, and the whole of my recent history and that of SOUP would need to be rewritten to fit the fact it is now a white ruled Africa. To have states able to freely trade, anything but especially weapons, with the Vijstaat is, in my eyes, frankly ridiculous and completely out of character with the realism based dynamic of the region.

I don't want to be 'that guy' but without sanctions it makes a mockey of my history and SOUPs history which took some considerable time to write up and think up. If someone can think up a reasonable reason why the Vrijstaat is sanction free and all the other African states somehow fell to majority rule then please enlighten me, but I have exhausted my mind and can't think of any situation in which we could get Kalumba and SOUP where they ae with the Vrijstaat as it currently is.

Also apologies for the lack of activity as of late, I have been a bit overloaded with work and other shite.

[Kastingrad]

I basically base my nation of a slightly better version of Poland economicaly but with a higher focus on defense.

[Spirit of Hope]

I'm essentially south korea, but with a much later population. Thats what I base most of my numbers off of

There's ur problem.

You are basically claiming to not just be a major power, but one of the top powers in the world.

Haven't had any complaints from anyone else, and thats how Erisinta was envisioned. Near the top, but not really on top. If others wish me to lower it I can, but I would definitely prefer not to.

[Transnapastain]

There's ur problem.

You are basically claiming to not just be a major power, but one of the top powers in the world.

Haven't had any complaints from anyone else, and thats how Erisinta was envisioned. Near the top, but not really on top. If others wish me to lower it I can, but I would definitely prefer not to.

I don't think the full extent of your vision was realized by the rest of us. I think having a large military can be justified, but your wiki has an enormous 7 billion GD, though you seem to have lowered it when you added your info onto the new list?

[Spirit of Hope]

Haven't had any complaints from anyone else, and thats how Erisinta was envisioned. Near the top, but not really on top. If others wish me to lower it I can, but I would definitely prefer not to.

I don't think the full extent of your vision was realized by the rest of us. I think having a large military can be justified, but your wiki has an enormous 7 billion GD, though you seem to have lowered it when you added your info onto the new list?

I realized (as I mentioned in edits) that I had used PPP to create my nominal GDP. Which makes a huge difference in this case. I rectified the mistake and lowered my numbers excuse they had gotten to large.

[Puzikas]

I basically base my nation of a slightly better version of Poland economicaly but with a higher focus on defense.

Id call it more like 3/4ths to 5/8ths

[Kastingrad]

I basically base my nation of a slightly better version of Poland economicaly but with a higher focus on defense.

Id call it more like 3/4ths to 5/8ths

Really? I was thinking a GDP of around 500 million would be about right.

[Puzikas]

Ill TG you to help you out

[Transnapastain]

An updated GDP (PPP) map

An updated % of GDP spent on military map

An updated who has the bomb map

[Transnapastain]

Id call it more like 3/4ths to 5/8ths

Really? I was thinking a GDP of around 500 million would be about right.

But Poland has an "incredible" 813 billion....and I think you mean 500 billion...because while 500 million is actually closer to the mark, its also complete shit.

You are kind of sitting on ice and not much us and have less population than some US states, some bullshit and handwaving is going to need to be applied to you to get you into a more productive state,

[Aqizithiuda]

An updated GDP (PPP) map

An updated % of GDP spent on military map

An updated who has the bomb map

Puz took his nukes back, I see.

[Transnapastain]

An updated GDP (PPP) map

An updated % of GDP spent on military map

An updated who has the bomb map

Puz took his nukes back, I see.

We forgot you were ANTO long before you were Kc, with you joining KC being a fairly recent thing, yes?

It, therefore, didn't make a lot of sense.

[Aqizithiuda]

Puz took his nukes back, I see.

We forgot you were ANTO long before you were Kc, with you joining KC being a fairly recent thing, yes?

It, therefore, didn't make a lot of sense.

Yeah, we worked out that I would have joined around 2000 or so, so you're right, it didn't really make much sense I suppose.

[The Akasha Colony]

An updated GDP (PPP) map

An updated % of GDP spent on military map

An updated who has the bomb map

Carthage is black for GDP and green for defense spending.

There's no real point to having one now.

We have a really big one in Africa.