Terra Firma, Planning and discussion

[Fortunagen]

Just a heads up.

My grandfather passed away last night at 92 years old. The problem here is the 8000km that separates me from the rest of my family. Depending on what his final wishes, I may need to return to Russia until mid February. If that's the case ill be out of contact for a few weeks.

Don't feel sorry for me, I dont want sympathy.

Hang in there, we got ya comrade

[Arcerion]

Just a heads up.

My grandfather passed away last night at 92 years old. The problem here is the 8000km that separates me from the rest of my family. Depending on what his final wishes, I may need to return to Russia until mid February. If that's the case ill be out of contact for a few weeks.

Don't feel sorry for me, I dont want sympathy.

All the best, safe travels.

[Puzikas]

thinks are sorted, let the region-ness continue.

Where are we on our wikis?

[Licana]

thinks are sorted, let the region-ness continue.

Where are we on our wikis?

Mine is an outdated and incomplete infoblock!

Therefore best wiki.

[Sevvania]

thinks are sorted, let the region-ness continue.

Where are we on our wikis?

Well uh, I have most of an infoblock, if that counts.

[Val Nube]

thinks are sorted, let the region-ness continue.

Where are we on our wikis?

Well uh, I have most of an infoblock, if that counts.

What Sev said.

[Transnapastain]

Baddies

Get on my level

[Spirit of Hope]

Baddies

Get on my level

While certainly not at your level, I have this. Plus another one for my army and navy that are a bit more skeletal. And I haven't worked on them in forever, new project.

[Spreewerke]

Baddies

Get on my level

I surpass your level.

[Transnapastain]

Baddies

Get on my level

While certainly not at your level, I have this. Plus another one for my army and navy that are a bit more skeletal. And I haven't worked on them in forever, new project.

I made some edits to this section. There is a way to link to wiki articles without using external links. I went ahead and did that for the K200 and K300.

I'm a little concerned about you just claiming to the Dassault Rafale as your own...as we DO have a France and, by rights, it belongs to him. I believe France is played by Meritocratic States/Arcevia. Maybe you could TG him and 1) Get him to actually come do something in the region, and 2) get some kind of rights to producing it?

[Spirit of Hope]

While certainly not at your level, I have this. Plus another one for my army and navy that are a bit more skeletal. And I haven't worked on them in forever, new project.

I made some edits to this section. There is a way to link to wiki articles without using external links. I went ahead and did that for the K200 and K300.

I'm a little concerned about you just claiming to the Dassault Rafale as your own...as we DO have a France and, by rights, it belongs to him. I believe France is played by Meritocratic States/Arcevia. Maybe you could TG him and 1) Get him to actually come do something in the region, and 2) get some kind of rights to producing it?

A) Thank you.

B) As to the Dassault, I claimed it (in the IRC channel) back before we had a france. Also not planning on keeping it at the moment don't know. It has been a while since I worked on that thing.

[San-Silvacian]

remove anto shitcockers

[Transnapastain]

I made some edits to this section. There is a way to link to wiki articles without using external links. I went ahead and did that for the K200 and K300.

I'm a little concerned about you just claiming to the Dassault Rafale as your own...as we DO have a France and, by rights, it belongs to him. I believe France is played by Meritocratic States/Arcevia. Maybe you could TG him and 1) Get him to actually come do something in the region, and 2) get some kind of rights to producing it?

A) Thank you.

B) As to the Dassault, I claimed it (in the IRC channel) back before we had a france. Also not planning on keeping it at the moment don't know. It has been a while since I worked on that thing.

We're going to need to start keeping track of claims.

Perhaps people should begin posting them, too? I mean, if its something that naturally resides in the territory you own, so long as you're playing an analog of that nation, for example Virana doesn't need to claim Lockheed-Martin but because Lanos is, quite emphatically, not Brazil, he doesn't have claims over their industry.) This would also apply to non-defense dustiness that people want, as well.

A note: Since EADS doesn't actually exist, things like the Eurofghter Typhon and Eurocopter more than likely do not, either. So, claiming individual products shouldn't really be an issue, so long as its justified.

Ill go ahead and do mine.
Companies
- CASA (Claimed before we had a Spain to protest. All products also claimed, Aero Bravo, Embraer, XMobots and Indústria Aeronáutica Neiva are combined into CASA as well)
- EMGEPRON
- Mectron
- Odebrecht (Split between myself and Bosque)
- Taurus (Products made by of AMCM)
- Bersa (Products made by of AMCM)
- Saab Defense (Acquired with permission from Aqi, products rolled into CASA, mostly aircraft and weapons systems claimed)
- Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace (Splitting this with Puz, mostly taking the naval electronics and such, except MICOS. Obviously the systems for the AIM-120, including NASAMS and NASAMS 2, aren't included, as they could only be claimed by Virana, or someone with whom he'd share technology, like Tule for example)

I know Bosque has
- Avibras
- IMBEL (Though I/Val have some of the products, he has all the FAL stuff)
- Troller Veículos Especiais
- Usiminas

Val has
- Bernardini and Engesa
- Companhia Brasileira de Cartuchos

Prem has some either Argentine stuff but I can't recall what exactly.

Edit: Oh, and either Virana, Tule, or Italian Mafias should take Bofors.

[Puzikas]

Obviously, any arsenals that belong to RL Russia/Ukraine, be them state or private. But thats not what I need to claim.

Harmson currently rips from the following RL manufacturers:

Glock (Owned totally, I've taken most of all their products and made them more TF-y), now known as Flock
-Lapua and SAKO, now known as Soyo Machine and Tool
-CZ (and CZ-USA), only two shotguns, and two rifles (CZ 712 and 912, Vz. 805 and Cz 527, approved by Spree), now manufactured by the -Manufacturing arm of Scantronic Defense limited (Charter Dynamics)
-S&T Kinetics, now called...ST Kinetics.
-Tbilisi Aircraft Manufacturing, but obviously NOT the things currently used by Russia (Because fucking duh, Trans), under the name Birmingham Heavy Industry's
-Kongsberg Defence, manufacturer of the Protector RWS, MICOS, and Penguin AShM (sold as the Lion), manufactured by Scantronic
-Whoever makes the IRL Boomerang Anti-sniper system, Scantronic product
-Sphinx Systems, pistols made by Flock
-INDEP

I also took (stole) a few upgrades from the former Yugoslavia and Romania, for export mostly.

[The Akasha Colony]

All independent here guise.

[Spreewerke]

I also took (stole) a few upgrades from the former Yugoslavia and Romania, for export mostly.

wat the shit, home boi? I totes cover land of partially Yugoslavia and Rumania, wat did you taek frm me, thef?

[Kalumba II]

Straight up claiming Spearmint Rhino as Kalumban.

Also as we never seem to have an active South Africa, and everone needs them MRAPs, any issue with me claiming Denel?

[Puzikas]

Straight up claiming Spearmint Rhino as Kalumban.

Also as we never seem to have an active South Africa, and everone needs them MRAPs, any issue with me claiming Denel?

We actually have a South Africa, which is all that kept me from claiming them myself

Edit: I only have interest in the Bateleur, Mokopa, Y3 AGL and the GI-2 for the record, mostly the Y3 and Mokopa

[Kalumba II]

Straight up claiming Spearmint Rhino as Kalumban.

Also as we never seem to have an active South Africa, and everone needs them MRAPs, any issue with me claiming Denel?

We actually have a South Africa, which is all that kept me from claiming them myself

But MRAPs have no use in kebab removal

And we do, but they never seem to be active and I want something to export from my third world shithole other than copper and blood diamonds. I'll just invent my own version of Denel then. With cheaper and crapper vehicles, and blackjack and hookers. And sweet African ass.

[Aqizithiuda]

I'm claiming NAMMO, Norma Precision and Carl Gustafs Stads Gevärfaktori.

[Puzikas]

I thought you might

Edit:

We actually have a South Africa, which is all that kept me from claiming them myself

But MRAPs have no use in kebab removal

And we do, but they never seem to be active and I want something to export from my third world shithole other than copper and blood diamonds. I'll just invent my own version of Denel then. With cheaper and crapper vehicles, and blackjack and hookers. And sweet African ass.

For Harmson, not Puzikas.

And removal of kebab is the only thing MRAPS are for!

[Kalumba II]

For Harmson, not Puzikas.

And removal of kebab is the only thing MRAPS are for!

That makes more sense, and as TFs Portuguese Colonies/Rhodesia alike I'm claiming inventing MRAPs and the like. We were fighting to defend our land from those pesky natives first!

[Tuzbekistan]

I'll juts bags everything for Tejas.

[Aqizithiuda]

Also, because I only just realised it is Swedish, I'm going to claim Aimpoint.

[Puzikas]

@Vir

Your calling the PAK-FA the "Fallback" for your NATO reporting name.
No excuses unless yours is better

I changed my mind, its Firefox now.

Because Dat awful but awesome 1980s cold war movie