Terra Firma, Planning and discussion

[Registug]

I'm all lonely down in North Australia. :(

The Pacific and Asia isn't getting a lot of love. We need a China equivalent, an India, a Malaysia, and Indonesia, a Vietnam, and an Australia/New Zealand.

I'm thinking we might unify the Australia/New Zealand as one country, and have an 'Indochina' representing Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia and maybe Thailand. Unify Pakistan, India, Nepal and Bangladesh as some sort of British India (or Gaelic?) that was never split.

I still need an Indonesia to face off against, and I'm worried that no one knows enough about Indonesia to RP them realistically or effectively.

[Bafuria]

Here is my suggestion to how we solve the the North Atlantic problem.
I'm Blue and Page is purple.

According to Page's factbook, his nation covers an area of roughly 5 million sq kilometers.

That's not really feasible for the map. It's as big, if not bigger, than my claim.

[Page]

Yeah I definitely need more room than that, the country is subarctic, the vast majority of the population 70% is urbanized along the coasts, but there is a huge highway system and all sorts of other considerations.

If the largest island in purple was moved Southwest, so the longitudinal line directly to the left of the Meridian line bisects the landmass, the northernmost latitudinal line horizontally bisects the southermost island, and the large island was increased in size by about 50%, the other two increased by about 25%, and again, I need the southermost island directly below the big one, then we can talk. I'd do it but I don't know how these maps work.

[Bafuria]

What I need is every country east of me to be a part of the "old world". IOW, fully developed by 1000 AD and not capable of accepting a wave of immigrants.

I also need an open ocean between me and Scandinavia.

If you move much further east or south my nation will not make Historical sense.

So here is my new suggestion:



You small nation is already well south of the arctic circle relative to Scandinavia and your bigger islands have plenty of space for Taiga.
You could also just claim you have a warmer climate thanks to lol oceancurrents.

[Page]

There are lots of reasons people wouldn't immigrate to Page, chiefly among them that we are like IRL Japan, with the cultural mentality "you can live here, but you will never be one of us." Pagian culture is very exclusive, even our religion revolves around gods and goddesses specifically for our people and our island that don't even think about the rest of the world.

Also the fact that we remain a more hardline monarchy while the rest of the world starts to flirt with republics and democracy, and we don't really get to the point of American-style capitalism until the 50's and 60's.

In present day we have immigrants who are almost exclusively skilled laborers, especially engineers, medical staff types, etc. Granted, a small but meaningful piece of our GDP relies on tourism and I expect the monarchy especially to attract foreign fascination, as well as our warrior culture and all that.

Although Pagians are more "western", Pagians are white and have cultural customs closest to Europeans, we are really analogous to Japan for a lot of reasons, foreigners see business opportunity here in present day, our history was largely free of outside influence for quite some time, etc. Even though we are beside you, we wouldn't necessarily have a lot to do with you, especially if our wars of conquest of the past were all directed to the East.

We are old world but we are also our own microcosm set apart from the equivalent of Europe, the entire concept of Page relies on the fact that there was never any sort of Christianization or any sort of spread of monotheistic religion here, we stuck to our old ways and they remain very strong even as technology develops at the same pace as the rest of the world.

Need a little more size but I guess that kind of spot on the map is workable. I see no reason though I can't have something analogous to Greenland and Iceland in size and shape.

[Bafuria]

There, I think this should do the trick.

[Nua Corda]

Boo-hoo! Nobody cares about Africa!
That said, IRL I'm very interested in Rhodesia, and considering that Rhodesia has its roots in history as a British colony, I think I may want to be a former Cordian colony somewhere in the south of Africa. Better yet, I should throw in an Irish-speaking populace.

Sounds good to me.

I think Puzikas wants west Russia, while San wants the east of it. Spree is more or less Czech, too.

I'm on NACO's side for IC self preservation reasons. Post cold war, though, I'm leaning away from them and eyeing my neighbours.

My firearms tech. is vastly similar (nearly identical) to Yugoslavia's, as well, so if my nation needs to be expanded into the Hungary/Romania/Yugoslavia/etc., that can easily be done... though I'm not sure how a small cluster of villages would be able to amass that kind of territory (unless we made a post-WWI-equiv. armistice that granted me more land and we did not require a revolt post-war to become sovereign)...

Possibly the revolt spread beyond the initial cluster of villages, and after the war the revolutionaries banded togather?

[Anacasppia]

Boo-hoo! Nobody cares about Africa!
That said, IRL I'm very interested in Rhodesia, and considering that Rhodesia has its roots in history as a British colony, I think I may want to be a former Cordian colony somewhere in the south of Africa. Better yet, I should throw in an Irish-speaking populace.

Sounds good to me.

Geographically, I'll probably take RL Rhodesia and stretch it to the coast (cuz being landlocked sucks bad); that aside, you might want to think about the surname of the Cordian dude who colonized the nation in the first place, seeing as Rhodesia was named after Cecil Rhodes.

Also, the Irish language thing has got me thinking: since in our region Ireland basically conquered England once upon a time, does that mean...the dominant international language will be...Irish?

Edit: Apparently I'm also finding it tempting as heck to explore more interesting/less covered nation concepts (i.e dynastic China, modern Mongolia, Best Korea)

[Nua Corda]

Sounds good to me.

Geographically, I'll probably take RL Rhodesia and stretch it to the coast (cuz being landlocked sucks bad); that aside, you might want to think about the surname of the Cordian dude who colonized the nation in the first place, seeing as Rhodesia was named after Cecil Rhodes.

Also, the Irish language thing has got me thinking: since in our region Ireland basically conquered England once upon a time, does that mean...the dominant international language will be...Irish?

Edit: Apparently I'm also finding it tempting as heck to explore more interesting/less covered nation concepts (i.e dynastic China, modern Mongolia, Best Korea)

Well, America would still be speaking English. The founders would have been ethnic Angles fleeing religious persecution in then-Catholic Corda, and would have kept their language. Places like Australia, which served as penal colonies, would have had large populations of Angles, given the old Monarchy's tendency to arrest and deport them for terrorism and sedition. Even in Corda (especially modern Corda) English is commonly spoken, especially in the south. There are some southern districts where Gaelic is an official language in name only, and English is the primary language. But I do imagine Gaelic would be quite prolific in many nations, even though with America championing it, English would remain the language of International Trade.

[Anacasppia]

Well, America would still be speaking English. The founders would have been ethnic Angles fleeing religious persecution in then-Catholic Corda, and would have kept their language. Places like Australia, which served as penal colonies, would have had large populations of Angles, given the old Monarchy's tendency to arrest and deport them for terrorism and sedition. Even in Corda (especially modern Corda) English is commonly spoken, especially in the south. There are some southern districts where Gaelic is an official language in name only, and English is the primary language. But I do imagine Gaelic would be quite prolific in many nations, even though with America championing it, English would remain the language of International Trade.

Okie then, that aside, by any chance do you have a surname in mind for whoever colonized the nation I'll be running, or should I dig one out myself?

[The Republic of Lanos]

I wouldn't be doing Gaelic. I'd just say my English was formed for years after English and German immigrants came to Lanos, mixed with the indigenous population (without force. the natives accepted being Lanosian) and that's where Lanosian English and the Lanosian language come from. Lanosian English is just like American English.

[Nua Corda]

Well, America would still be speaking English. The founders would have been ethnic Angles fleeing religious persecution in then-Catholic Corda, and would have kept their language. Places like Australia, which served as penal colonies, would have had large populations of Angles, given the old Monarchy's tendency to arrest and deport them for terrorism and sedition. Even in Corda (especially modern Corda) English is commonly spoken, especially in the south. There are some southern districts where Gaelic is an official language in name only, and English is the primary language. But I do imagine Gaelic would be quite prolific in many nations, even though with America championing it, English would remain the language of International Trade.

Okie then, that aside, by any chance do you have a surname in mind for whoever colonized the nation I'll be running, or should I dig one out myself?

Dunno. Pretty much anything English, Scottish or Irish-sounding is fair game.

[Botharia]

Yo, I'm looking for an Italian version of Cape Colony, Transvaal and OFState. So, South Africa, please!

We'd magically avoid lol-colonialism, and be all nice and fuzzy. Gimme a while and I'll have vague history etc. up by later today. Diamond, Gold etc. trade to make us rich. RICH I TELLS YA! But we'd not be a massive military, more like Britain, but better.

Temporary Factbook of the Kingdom of Botharia:
Will be updated as the evening goes on

Name (short): Botharia
Name (long): The Kingdom of Botharia
Denonym: Botharian
Currency: Botharian Pound
Capital: Bulleria
System of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Population: 90,045,200
Languages: Common Tongue (English) and Botharian (Italian)
National Food: Pasta
Area: Roughly South Africa

(I am slightly lazy, so don't expect loads of write ups and designs from me, okay! It'll all be RL designs or pre-done NS Designs which are feasible in Hard MT)

Main Military Rifle:
Main Side-arm:
Main LMG:
Main HMG:
Main DMR:

Main MBT:
Main IFV:
Main APC:
Main Utility Vehicle:
Main Logistics Trucks:

Main Fighter/Multi-Role jet:
Main Bomber:
Main UAV:
Main Tac Transport:
Main Strat Transport:
Main Heavy Helo Transport:
Main utility Helo:
Main Gunship:

Main Aircraft Carrier:
Main Cruiser:
Main Destroyer:
Main Frigate:
Main H/K Sub:
Main Ballistic Sub:
Main Corvette:

[Registug]

I'm going to wait for a higher resolution/more detailed map.

Also, the Australasian area is fucked up, dude. I don't even know what to make of it.

[Songhia]

Hey, can I still claim my Songhia? It is (still) Mali - Burkina Faso - Senegal.

[Bafuria]

I'd like to be a member of NACO. Gotta keep those Russkies out of my arctic.

[Spirit of Hope]

So I posted in the other related thread about interest, and I'll post here as well.
After a quick look through it doesn't look like the west cost of the us/canada/whatever is claimed. I would be interested in claiming that OR the Kamchatka analogue and surrounding areas. I would be looking at a population of between 150-200 million. (if allowed.)

[Yanitza]

Alrighty so here is an old map of my nation I used to use

http://tinypic.com/r/256s7qq/7

ignore the red lines and grey spots

Basically I envisioned Yanitza to be sought of between the Europe analog and the Middle East analog, and basically to share a great deal of similarities with Greece, although with Turkish, Muslim, and Slavic influences on it. In terms of allegiance, I would see it probably falling within the Russian sphere, probably as a client state possibly

Also, I can also rp as a Muslim nation if we need more of those

I'll work out the basic history a bit later when I have more time

[Leorudo]

Island of Fortunagen added north-east of Australia.

[Nua Corda]

Yo, I'm looking for an Italian version of Cape Colony, Transvaal and OFState. So, South Africa, please!

We'd magically avoid lol-colonialism, and be all nice and fuzzy. Gimme a while and I'll have vague history etc. up by later today. Diamond, Gold etc. trade to make us rich. RICH I TELLS YA! But we'd not be a massive military, more like Britain, but better.

Temporary Factbook of the Kingdom of Botharia:
Will be updated as the evening goes on

Name (short): Botharia
Name (long): The Kingdom of Botharia
Denonym: Botharian
Currency: Botharian Pound
Capital: Bulleria
System of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Population: 90,045,200
Languages: Common Tongue (English) and Botharian (Italian)
National Food: Pasta
Area: Roughly South Africa

(I am slightly lazy, so don't expect loads of write ups and designs from me, okay! It'll all be RL designs or pre-done NS Designs which are feasible in Hard MT)

Main Military Rifle:
Main Side-arm:
Main LMG:
Main HMG:
Main DMR:

Main MBT:
Main IFV:
Main APC:
Main Utility Vehicle:
Main Logistics Trucks:

Main Fighter/Multi-Role jet:
Main Bomber:
Main UAV:
Main Tac Transport:
Main Strat Transport:
Main Heavy Helo Transport:
Main utility Helo:
Main Gunship:

Main Aircraft Carrier:
Main Cruiser:
Main Destroyer:
Main Frigate:
Main H/K Sub:
Main Ballistic Sub:
Main Corvette:

We've got someone as a Rhodesia analog, and I'm the resident British analog.

In terms of equipment, we're trying to stick with NS designs by people within the region. Failing that, RL designs ICly claimed by the analog of the RL nation which produced them.

Hey, can I still claim my Songhia? It is (still) Mali - Burkina Faso - Senegal.

Sure, if it doesn't fall within an already claimed territory.

I'm going to wait for a higher resolution/more detailed map.

Also, the Australasian area is fucked up, dude. I don't even know what to make of it.

So change it up. But try not to copy too much from real life.

[The Akasha Colony]

Yo, I'm looking for an Italian version of Cape Colony, Transvaal and OFState. So, South Africa, please!

We'd magically avoid lol-colonialism, and be all nice and fuzzy. Gimme a while and I'll have vague history etc. up by later today. Diamond, Gold etc. trade to make us rich. RICH I TELLS YA! But we'd not be a massive military, more like Britain, but better.

Temporary Factbook of the Kingdom of Botharia:
Will be updated as the evening goes on

Name (short): Botharia
Name (long): The Kingdom of Botharia
Denonym: Botharian
Currency: Botharian Pound
Capital: Bulleria
System of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Population: 90,045,200
Languages: Common Tongue (English) and Botharian (Italian)
National Food: Pasta
Area: Roughly South Africa

(I am slightly lazy, so don't expect loads of write ups and designs from me, okay! It'll all be RL designs or pre-done NS Designs which are feasible in Hard MT)

Main Military Rifle:
Main Side-arm:
Main LMG:
Main HMG:
Main DMR:

Main MBT:
Main IFV:
Main APC:
Main Utility Vehicle:
Main Logistics Trucks:

Main Fighter/Multi-Role jet:
Main Bomber:
Main UAV:
Main Tac Transport:
Main Strat Transport:
Main Heavy Helo Transport:
Main utility Helo:
Main Gunship:

Main Aircraft Carrier:
Main Cruiser:
Main Destroyer:
Main Frigate:
Main H/K Sub:
Main Ballistic Sub:
Main Corvette:

We've got someone as a Rhodesia analog, and I'm the resident British analog.

In terms of equipment, we're trying to stick with NS designs by people within the region. Failing that, RL designs ICly claimed by the analog of the RL nation which produced them.

Hey, can I still claim my Songhia? It is (still) Mali - Burkina Faso - Senegal.

Sure, if it doesn't fall within an already claimed territory.

I'm going to wait for a higher resolution/more detailed map.

Also, the Australasian area is fucked up, dude. I don't even know what to make of it.

So change it up. But try not to copy too much from real life.

Songhia's territories do fall within my nation, but I'm willing to trade those for the territories I had outlined in the east (the other blue ones).

[Songhia]

Hey, my borders stop more-or-less at the Sahara Desert, so you can take what's north of it and I'll take what's south.

Anyway, I'd also need the England-analogue, because I'm an ex-English colony.

[The Akasha Colony]

Hey, my borders stop more-or-less at the Sahara Desert, so you can take what's north of it and I'll take what's south.

Anyway, I'd also need the England-analogue, because I'm an ex-English colony.

Well, I uh kinda needed the southern part. There's nothing in the north, most of my population, industry, etc. would have to be in the south.

[Nua Corda]

Hey, my borders stop more-or-less at the Sahara Desert, so you can take what's north of it and I'll take what's south.

Anyway, I'd also need the England-analogue, because I'm an ex-English colony.

England's my bag. You're an ex-Cordian colony.

[Leorudo]

Also here is a temp. factbook:
http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Fortunagen