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Eucadian Federation
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Founded: Mar 04, 2012
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Postby Eucadian Federation » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:17 pm

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Araraukar
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Founded: May 14, 2007
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Araraukar » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:22 pm

Before we choose any sides, we would like to know what Eucadia means by "communism"? Not everything labeled as communism is, in fact, communism, and we for one would not like to be mistaken as such.

Eucadian Federation wrote:and are asking not only futuristic nations, but modern nations of all to help Eucadia stop the spread of communism.

BTW... I AM AN FT NATION!!! SCREW YOU MT

OOC: Your siggy doesn't match your words.
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Eucadian Federation
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Founded: Mar 04, 2012
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Postby Eucadian Federation » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:29 pm

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Araraukar
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Founded: May 14, 2007
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Araraukar » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:02 pm

Eucadian Federation wrote:
The oppression of people.
Government ownership of all property
The basic rights of life have been deprived.
Government controls all aspects of life.
Supposed "Equality" never truly works, behind the scenes, there is widespread corruption
Many die at the hands of secret police due to acts such as speaking their minds
Marxist Ideals
Lenin Ideals
Stalin Ideals
The Never ending un-cooperation of the government with diplomats
Aggression against peaceful and democratic nations
Believing that war is the answer to any of to everything

If you have one these, you are a communist in my book and therefore I must wage war against you

Just one of those will be enough? Will you wage a war against yourselves, then? ("Aggression against peaceful and democratic nations" is exactly what you're advocating here.)

Eucadian Federation wrote:Just look at the USSR before it collapsed. That is the basic insight into communism

OOC: That was my point. USSR was not communist. Many people just mistake it for that.

Back to IC:

The Grand Nation of Araraukar declares that Eucadian Federation is being misguided by their propaganda division, and that they would do well to look more closely at the personal motives of those that have devised up this new "war". It also seems to us that this could merely be a ruse for Eucadia's extensive arms manufacturing industry to get more markets for their products.

As such, we're willing to aid any nations that Eucadian Federation may attack, by sending medical supplies, food, personal necessities, as well as opening our normally tightly-guarded borders for any refugees, whether they be seeking temporary or permanent residency. We will not be involved in any militaristic way in any conflicts.
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Sardakhar
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Posts: 1444
Founded: Dec 06, 2012
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Postby Sardakhar » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:42 pm

We in Sardakhar apologize for not being able to help your nation (Eucadia) in extinguishing communism throughout the world, but we enthusiastically endorse you in this monumental endeavor and hope that you will achieve the best - total and complete eradication of communism.

Communismum delenda est!

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Lancaster of Wessex
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Founded: Feb 21, 2004
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:48 pm

Eucadian Federation wrote:Chancellor Steven Colhoff said in an earlier statement WE HAVE DECLARED WAR AGAINST ALL COMMUNIST NATIONS


His Grace bids farewell to the Eucadian Federation and its Chancellor Steven Colhoff for their ridiculous declaration of war, which is unwinnable, and futile.
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ALMF
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Founded: Jun 04, 2010
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Postby ALMF » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:49 pm

Eucadian Federation wrote:The oppression of people.
Government ownership of all property
The basic rights of life have been deprived.
Government controls all aspects of life.
Supposed "Equality" never truly works, behind the scenes, there is widespread corruption
Many die at the hands of secret police due to acts such as speaking their minds
Marxist Ideals
Lenin Ideals
Stalin Ideals
The Never ending un-cooperation of the government with diplomats
Aggression against peaceful and democratic nations
Believing that war is the answer to any of to everything

If you have one these, you are a communist in my book and therefore I must wage war against you

Just look at the USSR before it collapsed. That is the basic insight into communism

So every realistic nation: good to know.
a left social libertarian (all on a scale 0-10 with a direction: 0 centrist 10 extreme)
Left over right: 5.99
Libertarian over authoritarian: 4.2,
non-interventionist over neo-con: 5.14
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Gideus
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Founded: May 22, 2012
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Postby Gideus » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:49 pm

The Allied States of Gideus pray that you see the error in your ways. There is no conceivable way that one tiny nation can stand against the arrayed forces of the Communists you so brand as evil and their allies; in declaring such a foolhardy war you have not only declared war upon "Communist" nations but also upon any of their allies. Their allies are not limited to other Communists; we also believe that you do not know the true meaning of the word communist.

--Yohann Steel, Head of the Defense Council
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Social Libertarian: 6.87
This represents my nation, Gideus, as well as me.

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Colbalt (Ancient)
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Founded: Nov 28, 2012
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Postby Colbalt (Ancient) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:08 pm

Alien signal dected:

Decode signal? Y/N _ y

Signal decoded:

For too long have nations of communist descent plagued Eucadian Interests. Recently, King Torrian's new Peace Policy was designed to stop the spread of communism without the help of capitalist nations like Eucadia. Only recently has one act sent our great nation over the edge. Telemarcia, a communist nation, failed to stop the assassination of King Torrian's Daughter, Ariana Newman. Now, in the past 6 hours, Eucadia has gone through tons of changes and one major change on the list is to rid the world of communism once and for all. Defense Secretary Kirsten Nakanu has declared to the Royal Council and the National Congress to immediately adopt a policy of "un-exceeded war and to "stop the spread" of the iron curtain" King Torrian immediately had all communist nationals removed from their homes and sent to Ember Island for their removal. Although there will be no commitment of genocide, Eucadia is preparing to deport all communist nationals away from the nation. Chancellor Steven Colhoff said in an earlier statement WE HAVE DECLARED WAR AGAINST ALL COMMUNIST NATIONS and are asking not only futuristic nations, but modern nations of all to help Eucadia stop the spread of communism.

Calculate distance to signal sourse? Y/N _ y

Distance to signal sourse: 22.5 parsecs

Send return message to system 1109231? Y/N _ n

exterminate sender?Y/N _ n

Support attempts to exterminate sender? _ y

Sending resourses to nations that have declared war on the Eucadian Federation...
"War is not a way of life or a action but a philosophy. Yes we consider war a philosophy get used to it."

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Matariyya
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Posts: 129
Founded: Dec 01, 2012
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Postby Matariyya » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:29 pm

Eucadian Federation wrote:The oppression of people.
Government ownership of all property
The basic rights of life have been deprived.
Government controls all aspects of life.
Supposed "Equality" never truly works, behind the scenes, there is widespread corruption
Many die at the hands of secret police due to acts such as speaking their minds
Marxist Ideals
Lenin Ideals
Stalin Ideals
The Never ending un-cooperation of the government with diplomats
Aggression against peaceful and democratic nations
Believing that war is the answer to any of to everything

If you have one these, you are a communist in my book and therefore I must wage war against you

Just look at the USSR before it collapsed. That is the basic insight into communism


That is corrupt communism, what you have on your list. And fall-era USSR is not really anything to go by, the mere fact that it fell in these years says a lot. In other words, I can say that capitalism means unfree labor, potential slavery, oppression of the workers, and rampant social injustice.
Also -by your book- the Inoffensive Centrist Democracy that is Matariyya is a communist nation, just because we like to soak up other nations. I call bullshit: We're an Empire.

So...anyway, and in the name of The Empire of Matariyya:
I propose you stop this shit, and find a peaceful resolution with the Communist blocs.
It's okay, I'll mediate.

And concerning aid...Matariyya will be sending non-lethal aid through the Matari Red Crescent to nationals of both Eucadia and any affected nations.
EDIT: Provided said nations' governments will compensate for it after the storm is over. Preferably by joining as vassals, but I'm not picky.
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The Legion of War
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Founded: Oct 30, 2012
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Postby The Legion of War » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:04 pm

OOC: FT AND MT? Dude the MT nations will get stomped on...
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Araraukar
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Founded: May 14, 2007
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Araraukar » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:24 am

The Legion of War wrote:OOC: FT AND MT? Dude the MT nations will get stomped on...

OOC: You can't force roleplay, though. If the MT nations refuse to recognize rayguns or whatever, the FT nations can't force them to. If the OP is willing to fiddle with settings until everyone agrees, so that no-one is overpowered, good. If not, it's unlikely he'll get any MT nations to RP war with them.

Araraukar is pretty much MT, and as you can see, I stated my refusal to engage in war RPing, humanitarian missions only.
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Araraukar's RP reality is Modern Tech solarpunk. In IC in the WA.
Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.

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Teronia
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Posts: 63
Founded: Dec 17, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Teronia » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:01 am

The Federation of Independent Terronian States recognizes the attempt of the Eucadian Empire to rid the word of communism and wishes to aid you in any way possible.
However, as we are still a fledgling group, we can only offer you supplies, and space for refugees. We wish you much success in your grand endeavor, and would much enjoy further communication as regards to the exact types of supplies.


Ronan Mcwest, Communications officer for ISAF.


FITS is a slightly FT nation, however as it has only recently become the FITS in the first place, it is in no really shape to take on such a huge fight. However, we have no shortage of technology we would not mind "lending", including our ship buster drones, and SCMs.
(Stealth Cruise Missiles. just because we're new to the block, doesn't mean we aren't armed. Just too small to join this fight.)
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We will raze your cities and population centers. We will level your factories, your schools, we will massacre your civilians. None shall be spared. And when the dust settles, when you drop to your knees crying "Dear God why?" we will simply say, "You dared oppose the Teronian fist. We do not forgive, we do not forget. We do not repeat ourselves. So pay attention."

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Rommissia
Secretary
 
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Founded: Dec 04, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Rommissia » Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:52 pm

Araraukar wrote:
The Legion of War wrote:OOC: FT AND MT? Dude the MT nations will get stomped on...

OOC: You can't force roleplay, though. If the MT nations refuse to recognize rayguns or whatever, the FT nations can't force them to. If the OP is willing to fiddle with settings until everyone agrees, so that no-one is overpowered, good. If not, it's unlikely he'll get any MT nations to RP war with them.

Araraukar is pretty much MT, and as you can see, I stated my refusal to engage in war RPing, humanitarian missions only.

OCC: By that logic one could refuse to accept whatever the MT nation says and continue on as if they nuked them from orbit.

RP needs cooperation. And obviously the MT nations would need to realize that the FT nations simply have better tech.

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Dread Lady Nathicana
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A quiet conversation ...

Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:06 pm

"Isn't it adorable when younger nations 'declare all-out war' on other nations, whether they're a direct threat to them or not?" the raven-haired woman commented idly via vidcam to her Chancellor. He nodded and smiled wryly in response.

"You know the old cliche phrase about warring for peace being like …" he began, gesturing vaguely.

"Yes, and all either gets is bombs and bambinos, usually both unwanted."

"Well, it should be interesting to watch pan out from a distance in any case. I take it we've no intention of getting involved?" he asked, one brow arched up as he flipped through the latest news clips on his datapad.

"I think we have our hands full as is without embroiling ourselves in the affairs of fools and those foolish enough to engage them. Let others waste their resources and words in grand yet impotent gestures while the rest of us attend to more important things - such as our continued prosperity, security, and generally peaceable international relations," the woman confirmed, more or less as expected.

"You and the Emperor are well, I hope?" he continued, making a quick note to be passed on through the rest of the Ministry.

"Well enough Cesare, grazie. Marcus is impatient as ever to 'get things done' and save the world, of course. Yourself, and Naiya?"

"Doing just fine, Imperatrice. As promised, I will keep you notified of any changes, important happenings, or any other needful notice. It will be fine, Nathicana. She has much on her mind, but she's strong, and solid. We won't let anything happen to her," he reassured the woman, meeting her eyes and offering a short nod.

"Benissimo. As you said, keep in touch. I'm going to go track down the aforementioned Emperor and pester him into a glass of Delacourt before dinner."

"And I'll pass word on to the Ministry of our intent to stay silent, and uninvolved," replied Cesare. "Calabrese, out."


(OOC: How about you all keep the ooc drivel out, or request the OP to put up an ooc thread, hmm? It's … distracting.)

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Geadland
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Founded: Oct 18, 2012
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Postby Geadland » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:48 pm

You're new at this.
Eucadian Federation wrote:-snip-
Believing that war is the answer to any of to everything [sic]

If you have one these [sic], you are a communist in my book and therefore I must wage war against you

-snip-
You are aware that you've just declared war on yourself?
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Exodus Omega
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Founded: Dec 05, 2012
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Postby Exodus Omega » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:51 am

I propose that you rethink your statements. Waging war on a political party that is not attacking you is a fallacy and is fascism. You believe in freedom? Let us have the freedom to govern ourselves. This thread is pathetic. It is people like you giving Comrades across the globe a bad name.

War in the name of freedom is enslavement. Go back to your homeland and enjoy your capitalism.
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Dargonese
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Postby Dargonese » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:39 am

Out just beyond the asteroid belt a Dargonese surveillance satellite hangs, fresh out of the long sleep that had engulfed the entirety of Dargonese culture in the Sol system, the distant light of the sun glimmers off its russet carapace catching the light pock marks from micro meteor impacts. A shimmer and a dark crease opens in the main shell a moment later delicate antenna unfold like gossamer wings, for a moment they hang quivering with the light glimmering though them like dew coated spiders webs, and then with minute muscle contractions they point towards earth..

The satellite operating mind, Wurzulgumage of Family Yoth, mentally blinks to itself, its exterior chitin manipulators flexing subconsciously as it digests what it had just received, the transmissions having just passed through the verification and spam filter protocols and had registered as coming from a genuine Nationstate.
It was somewhat confused as to the nature of the transmission several seconds had been spent in ruling out entertainment transmissions (something this satellite enjoyed filtering through to while away the long hours), mentally unstable officials and civilian owners of long range communication (Who it also occasionally had fun with, causing no end of conspiracy theories) it decided it needed help...

Moments later a thought seed transmission bedded in the Dargonese colony circling outside the orbit of Pluto.

SPSat-Wurzlegumage le Yoth :: Hey Supy, get a load of this data feed *info squirt* one of the nations has declared war on 'Communism' is that us?::

InfoMind- Supekutoruman le Reket :: Interesting, our database states that communism is "a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production"
As far as I know all our schooling is done on an individual basis, we have to due to the difference in body types, so we have no common school or classes...

SPSat-Wurzlegumage le Yoth :: And I know we don't use paper money or those shiny metal disks, and we have no states, what about the common means of production?::

InfoMind- Supekutoruman le Reket :: Well considering we are biological and everything is produced by.. you know..::

SPSat-Wurzlegumage le Yoth :: No, what? compost?

InfoMind- Supekutoruman le Reket :: .. Wurze, you've been out in space to long, when two or more Dargonese love each other enough they get together a...::

SPSat-Wurzlegumage le Yoth :: oh! you mean seeding! but we all do that, so I guess its common? So, this 'Eucadian Federation' has declared war on us? Well that's pleasant, we come out of hibernation and the first thing that happens is some nation declares war on us, shall I talk to Big Stick?

InfoMind- Supekutoruman le Reket :: No.. I don't think so, Wurze, you go back to watching, Ill send it up the spire for the overminds to chew over, I don't think we are qualified to make a decision on this, Personally I thin they are going to chalk it up to some wack job...::

The seed transmission disconnects, and somewhere in the asteroid belt eager antennae unfurl and focus towards a pinpoint on earth.

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Tabaros
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Founded: Aug 30, 2010
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Postby Tabaros » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:07 pm

Eucadian Federation wrote:For too long have nations of communist descent plagued Eucadian Interests. Recently, King Torrian's new Peace Policy was designed to stop the spread of communism without the help of capitalist nations like Eucadia. Only recently has one act sent our great nation over the edge. Telemarcia, a communist nation, failed to stop the assassination of King Torrian's Daughter, Ariana Newman. Now, in the past 6 hours, Eucadia has gone through tons of changes and one major change on the list is to rid the world of communism once and for all. Defense Secretary Kirsten Nakanu has declared to the Royal Council and the National Congress to immediately adopt a policy of "un-exceeded war and to "stop the spread" of the iron curtain" King Torrian immediately had all communist nationals removed from their homes and sent to Ember Island for their removal. Although there will be no commitment of genocide, Eucadia is preparing to deport all communist nationals away from the nation. Chancellor Steven Colhoff said in an earlier statement WE HAVE DECLARED WAR AGAINST ALL COMMUNIST NATIONS and are asking not only futuristic nations, but modern nations of all to help Eucadia stop the spread of communism.

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