Advertisement
by Nacrad » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:52 pm
International News: HUNGARY IS OUT: Hungary quits the Warsaw Pact | Greece legalises same-sex marriage
Domestic News: 16 FEB 2024 (FRI) | Year of the Dragon: 10% birth rate boost expected, says Dept. of Health | CSG Resolute departs for ally visit | Highways & Transport Dept. revives M17 Motorway project between Namchon, KX and Samming, LK
Weather: Riverfort 23/27°C | Amoy 19/21°C | Taipei 23/25°C | Namchon 13/26°C
by The Crooked Beat » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:57 pm
by Depkazia » Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:41 pm
by Chrinthanium » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:37 pm
Depkazia wrote:If there is still room for a man and his hippo in the new modern world, Chingiz should like to return to his roots, in northwestern Kazakhstan.
The provinces of Aktobe, West Kazakhstan, Atyrau, and Mangystau cover 736,241 square kilometres and house 2,568,391 prospective Chingizid subjects (as of 2013, and probably now some more).
The territory also covers the Tengiz and Kashagan petrochemical fields, together containing tens of billions of barrels of crude oil (of which not all is easily recoverable) along with associated natural gas. There is yet more oil to be had in Aktobe, along with copper, chromite, and phosphorite, while in Mangystau there is uranium.
This Depkazia would essentially see Chingiz as a state-in-being.
The Grand Host may still have existed, if Chrin wants some raiding action in his past, but now two or three million Depkazis don't seem quite such a menace as they did when there were only four or five million Russians.
I'll add more when my ear isn't being talked off. So much for the weekend break.
The Crooked Beat wrote:To begin with, I'll happily sign off on E-P's proposed alterations.
Secondly, as I've recently mentioned on discord, I'd like, if there are no objections, to add Madagascar and much of Morocco to Ezpanna.
The Moroccan regions in question are:
-L'Oriental: 2,314,346 people
-Fes-Meknes: 4,236,892 people
-Rabat-Sale-Kenitra: 4,580,866 people
-Beni Mellal-Khenifra: 2,520,776 people
-Casablanca-Settat: 6,861,739 people
(20,514,619 people in total)
Plus Madagascar (26,262,313 people), this would bring Ezpanna's total population to 100,426,217 people, or 99,858,815 people if Western Sahara is omitted. Tanger-Tetouan remains available, and I would encourage a Walmingtonian presence as a means of adding a bit of depth to the position at Gibraltar, as would the remainder of southern Morocco and Western Sahara, as this will provide any future claimant in Algeria with access to the Atlantic.
While, obviously, this almost doubles Ezpanna's population, my intent is for the Basque state to face a scenario where its resources, particularly its coercive resources, are taxed proportionally. Basque Morocco, which I'll provisionally call Valentia after one of the Roman-era settlements, potentially acts as a kind of Ireland to Ezpanna's Britain, simultaneously a rallying-point for the nationalist right and a permanent headache for Basque officialdom. Any pre-modern Valentia would have been linked to the Iberian world, and would undoubtedly have played an important role in Iberian history, though, as with the peninsula as a whole, the (Iberian) reformation may well have transformed matters. Valentia's local political arrangements could have been fractured by religious strife, a process subsequently leading to a series of murderous onslaughts from the Basque commonwealth and ultimate, if frequently challenged, conquest. From the 1700s onward, Valentia's political development would have been shaped by conflict between a ruling minority of both native and Basque-immigrant protestants, empowered by the Basque conquest, and a majority, or at least plurality, Catholic population, much of which could well consist of immigrants from the Shield and from what were formerly Catholic-majority areas within Ezpanna itself. Catholic disenfranchisement, though probably no longer overt, would remain pervasive and biting, and would yield a scenario where extreme inequality between Protestant and Catholic communities is accompanied by simmering tension and violence. As in Ireland's case, a colossal military presence would be needed (or, at least, would be perceived by those in power as necessary) to maintain control.
Madagascar would, likewise, be treated very much as a colony by the Basque state, euphemisms notwithstanding, any gestures meant to suggest democracy or autonomy being very much cosmetic in nature. An armed insurrection at some level seems guaranteed, especially with Beddgelert nearby, and this would also call for a substantial commitment of troops.
More detail is called for, of course.
Europe - Prussia wrote:Hello there! So, I saw my name mentioned, plus I wish to make some adjustements to my claim:Chemaki wrote: (...) I'll put up a new history this weekend to fit better with what's written (especially with the Latin Alliance, I need to ask E-P if he's planning to have Greece as some offshoot of a Byzantine Empire like the previous AMW iteration, or something different) (...)
As I've said before, I'm keeping history before Napoleon as closely as possible to our history, so a rump Roman State on Greece during the middle ages is totally possible, until it is eventually carved out by the italian thalassocracies or something along those lines brings its end.Chemaki wrote: (...) I do agree with you about the difficulty of calculating Turkey, though. That is a nightmare. But, at the end of the day, I don't want to take the whole thing. Romnika was never intentended to have any part in Europe, and whilst it's meant to be a distant offshoot of some old Byzantine or Roman Empire, it was never intended to be a direct successor (so I don't want to touch the Bosphorous). I thought that claiming was much as I did, it would leave 51 million people for sizable Greek/Turkish claim if someone wanted to go for that, but it does seem a little unlikely. I might throw E-P a message and see if he's interested in taking European Turkey and the Western Coast of Asian Turkey and I'd snag up the rest Anatolia - the way, it's still a ballache to calculate like any split Turkey claim, but once it's sorted, it's sorted (until either Romnika or the Latin Empire CTE's).
Personally, I'm not that interested in adding more people to my claim, especially that many: for example, Istambul has 14 million people, more than Greece; more than anything, I don't want to reach the 200 million mark. We can hash out something of course; alternatively, I have no problems in giving up Greece if someone wants to create a Greek/Byzantine/Ottoman claim or Beddgelert wants to return to the Balkans.
---
Finally, like Mari and Apilonia, I would like to make some minor adjustements to my claim: I'd like to drop the french overseas territories, with the exception of Guadeloupe, Martinique and Mayotte, and add to my claim Andorra, the islands of Jersey and Guernsey, and Libya.
My reasoning is quite simple: when I claimed the french overseas territories I did it for purely practical purposes, as I needed a place that worked as a spaceport and a nuclear test site, and out of lazyness, as the CIA factbook already had the calculations of the population done (Metropolitan France + islands). However, after reading about those territories, and that only Guiana wasn't dependant on Metropolitan France, I ultimately realized that Chrin was right about far-flung colonies. Libya on the other hand is much more closer, is mostly desert (so no problems about nuclear tests) and it can work as an spaceport, not as good as French Guiana, but its on the same latitude as Cape Canaveral, so its feasible. As for Guadeloupe, Martinique and Mayotte, I'd like to keep them for the intrigue of course.
Jersey and Guernsey is for a more logical reason, as they are closer to my claim than any potential claim on the Britain, while Andorra is to fill a hole, because if I'm not mistaken TCB never claimed it.
So, counting only Metropolitan France, plus Guadeloupe, Martinique, Mayotte, Andorra, Jersey, Guernsey and Libya the grand total would be 163,892,305; a plus of 3 millon.Metropolitan France: 62,814,233
Italy: 62,402,659
Switzerland: 8,403,994
Austria: 8,859,449
Slovenia: 2,102,678
Mónaco: 39,000
Liechtenstein: 39,137
Vatican City: 1,000
San Marino: 34,232
Malta: 457,267
Greece: 10,607,051
Libya: 6,890,535
Mayotte: 223,765
Martinique: 376,480
Guadeloupe: 395,700
Jersey: 101,073
Guernsey: 67,052
Andorra: 77,000
Total: 163,892,305
Nacrad wrote:The South Chinese Republic is formed after the fall of the PRC due to incessant civil wars, and encompasses the Hakka and Yue peoples residing in what we now know as Guangdong, Hong Kong, Macau and the southern part of Jiangxi.
I will claim the territory that is Guangdong Province, Ganzhou prefecture, Hong Kong and Macau.
by Chrinthanium » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:08 pm
by The Crooked Beat » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:17 pm
by Beddgelert » Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:37 pm
by Chrinthanium » Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:59 pm
by AMW Applications » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:52 pm
by The Crooked Beat » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:56 am
by Chrinthanium » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:03 pm
The Crooked Beat wrote:One very minor note, I had been hoping to include Madagascar as well in an expanded Basque state (albeit as a poorly-integrated colony), and drop Reunion in the process, though if there are any objections this is all, naturally, completely negotiable.
by AMW Applications » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:04 pm
The Crooked Beat wrote:One very minor note, I had been hoping to include Madagascar as well in an expanded Basque state (albeit as a poorly-integrated colony), and drop Reunion in the process, though if there are any objections this is all, naturally, completely negotiable.
by Chrinthanium » Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:29 am
by Chrinthanium » Mon May 04, 2020 1:32 pm
by Chrinthanium » Wed May 06, 2020 10:35 am
by Beddgelert » Wed May 06, 2020 1:58 pm
by Dra-pol » Sun May 31, 2020 11:35 am
by Chemaki » Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:50 am
by Walmington on Sea » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:27 am
by The Crooked Beat » Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:20 pm
by Walmington on Sea » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:06 pm
by 99papers » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:22 am
by Chemaki » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:30 am
by Beddgelert » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:57 pm
Advertisement
Users browsing this forum: Mareyland
Advertisement