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[United Kongo]

Last one first...

Chrinthania probably takes a very dim view of you. Considering its stance on social equality and political freedom and whatnot, Daresalam would not be a nation of interest for Chrinthania. You are part of the Indian basin, however. So I assume we do keep relations open between the two.

Britain... would never fight Daresalam for maritime boundaries and off-shore gas rights. We'd never fight because obviously we could overthrow your country in less time than the Falklands War definitely... and maybe less time than the first Gulf War. Britain will probably have one of--if not the--highest military budget in AMW.

As far as history and Britain, I've essentially let people write their own history with Britain as it pertains to that which happens within their own borders within reason. There's no reason to desire to thrust my own version of history onto people. Britain is definitely not as active RP-wise as Chrinthania. It's there, sitting, watching and waiting for you to put a foot wrong then it will thwack you Nah, I just have less desire to rush Britain to completion because I need it to be right, so it's wide open as to what history ultimately gets written. Though, as far as England, Scotland, Wales, and N'orn Ireland, the RL history will be a template from which to work. I know we have the Reformation (mostly because WoS threatened to send me to the scaffold) and we have Fascism later on... and a really awesome national anthem.

Ok that sounds good to me. haha I was thinking less war than a diplomatic spat but I see what you mean.

Sounds good to me. My factbook's history isn't exactly in-depth at the moment so if there are any historical interactions you'd like to work out then it should be easy to handle

I think that the Margraves could also send some 'foreign aid money' in the direction of the Daresalami armed forces, considering that the Malik's government is infinitely preferable to them than any alternative (only if you're interested, obviously). All of the major corporations in Marimaia are owned by the Margraves or one of the major tribes which allied with them during the kingdom's founding and subsequent expansion, so Marimaian investors will have a good understanding about the importance of tribal networks and the like (the Margraves have been in the Arabian Peninsula since 1915 so they've learned about these things over the years).

Yeah the Kingdom would be very happy to take any military handouts it could get it's hands on haha.

[Chrinthanium]

A new AMW map! https://i.imgur.com/7J3ViVe.png

[Europe - Prussia]

As discussed on Discord (which is becoming quite common to start these kinds of posts), I want to formally add Belgium and Luxembourg to my claim. However, because I do not want to expand so egregiously, I will drop Indonesia's East Nusa Tenggara province, East Timor and Guinea-Bissau (and I have to apologize to Chrin for this one because I bothered him to add it to my claim ), and take Indonesia's Bangka Belitung Islands province to keep the west-east chain of colonies.

So, in numbers it would end like this:

Valendia's current population: 131,434,555

Minus:
- Guinea-Bissau: 1,792,338
- Indonesia's East Nusa Tenggara: 5,070,746
- East Timor: 1,261,072

Plus:

- Belgium: 11,491,346
- Luxembourg: 594,130
- Indonesia's Bangka Belitung: 1,372,813

Total: 136,768,688. A plus of around 5 million of my original population.

Now Chrin, feel free to claim East Timor and and the eastern Lesser Sunda Islands to complete the FORTRESS AUSTRALASIA!!

[Chrinthanium]

I am officially going to claim that part of Indonesia that EP dropped as well as East Timor for Chrinthania. It's an addition of 6,331,818 bringing Chrinthani population to around 56 million.

[DaShunchao]

Alright, things have started calming down to the point where I can start doing things again. So, what's going on?

[Depkazia]

The Khagan is glad you're sticking around.

Not very much is happening, though there are a few diplomatic missions under way. The Celts are back in Europe and Anatolia, so they're prrrrrobably not going to liberate Tibet any time soon. The Anglos are conducting some manner of joint naval exercise in the Caribbean, possibly to annoy the Americans. Chingiz is reshuffling his military again, as he has done often since the only major rebellion against his centralised rule, though this time of potential note to the Celestials as it is the Köktürük Khanate that is seeing the principle upsurge, despite the return to Anatolia of the Celts, and he is building 'something' on the shores of Ysyk Köl. Oh, and the Drapoel were reaching out to the Shieldians, for some reason, via Soviet India, but since that no longer exists I'm unsure where that leaves matters.

Chingiz is also going to slightly edit history, which of course he can do, the sum of which will be that Outer Depkazia (Asian Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, northern Iran, and Kyrgyzstan) was never under Shieldian influence but remained an independent but sickly Sultanate until toppled by Chingiz in the Depkazi Civil War of the 1990s, following his successful revolution against the Shieldians in Inner Depkazia and Gallaga. Just in case any of those events would have interested or concerned the Chinese at all.

[Chrinthanium]

The Khagan is glad you're sticking around.

Not very much is happening, though there are a few diplomatic missions under way. The Celts are back in Europe and Anatolia, so they're prrrrrobably not going to liberate Tibet any time soon. The Anglos are conducting some manner of joint naval exercise in the Caribbean, possibly to annoy the Americans. Chingiz is reshuffling his military again, as he has done often since the only major rebellion against his centralised rule, though this time of potential note to the Celestials as it is the Köktürük Khanate that is seeing the principle upsurge, despite the return to Anatolia of the Celts, and he is building 'something' on the shores of Ysyk Köl. Oh, and the Drapoel were reaching out to the Shieldians, for some reason, via Soviet India, but since that no longer exists I'm unsure where that leaves matters.

Chingiz is also going to slightly edit history, which of course he can do, the sum of which will be that Outer Depkazia (Asian Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, northern Iran, and Kyrgyzstan) was never under Shieldian influence but remained an independent but sickly Sultanate until toppled by Chingiz in the Depkazi Civil War of the 1990s, following his successful revolution against the Shieldians in Inner Depkazia and Gallaga. Just in case any of those events would have interested or concerned the Chinese at all.

Now that Twitter is at 280 characters, I believe Chingiz will need to have Tweets containing 281 characters, unless he's no longer as awesome as we truly hope he is.

Ro, outside of what Dep said, there's just been a few other shuffles of claims around the board. AMW isn't a sports car screaming down a motorway. It's more like a car pulling a caravan going on holiday... it's in no hurry to get to where it's going and is often making sudden turns without using its indicators or stopping to take in the scenery while not pulling far enough off of the road.

[AMW Applications]

Alright... all additions, subtractions, shifts, annexations, pivots, and whatnot are all processed. The new map is right here.

[Chrinthanium]

I know, I know, you’re all going to shoot me on sight, but I have been thinking about Chrinthania and the way it’s been going. There’s no worries about me giving up on it. Not in the least. It’s where it belongs and doing exactly what I want it to do. The problem I am currently having is I have been adding to its original area over time and now it’s getting larger than I feel comfortable having it. Yeah, I know I literally just asked for the parts of Indonesia that EP just dropped, but I think it is better if Chrinthania remains a smaller nation. 57 million isn’t huge, but it’s a fairly good-sized nation at that level.

There are no rogue nations near Chrinthania in a general sense. It isn’t like there’s a nation a few thousand kilometers away hellbent on destroying Chrinthania. There is the British Empire nearby and the ever-silent-but-deadly Drapol, but with Soviet India now part of the Ash Heap of History, there isn’t a reason to expand Chrinthania. Even if there were more rogue nations nearby, I don’t see how those islands can provide any more protection than the large desert that is most of Australia’s interior. With a sufficient naval force and a prepared army, Chrinthania can be defended along with a little help from her friends.

To this end I have decided to drop claims to almost all Indonesian provinces. I will retain Papua New Guinea and the adjacent Indonesia provinces of Papua and West Papua, Solomon Islands, New Caledonia, Vanuatu, New Zealand, and the whole of Australia (plus their associated territories). This drops Chrinthani population down to 40,225,775 with a total area of only 8,991,969 square kilometers. This is a population drop of 16,998,067 and a land area drop of 134,521 square kilometers. I am fully aware that Mari had his one character be Balinese, but at this point, he could be Maori or Pacific Islander from one of the islands I currently have. I apologize for the inconvenience this is causing him. Still, this arrangement will continue to ensure Chrinthania has no land boundaries with any other potential claim, just the way (uh huh, uh huh) I like it.

The Chrinthani GDP is going to be set overall at $42,517 per capita which gives Chrinthania a nominal GDP (in RL US Dollars) of $1,710,279,275,675. That’s a higher per capita but a lower overall GDP (the GDP at just over 57 million was over $2.2 trillion). Obviously, the external islands will have a lower GPP (gross provincial product) per capita themselves and Australia will have the highest GPP. The disparity I had built into it previously will not be as severe, however. Considering that I have Chrinthania actively working to rectify colonial British mistakes in building up the native populations, giving them better access to healthcare and education and business opportunities, I think that might actually work well to raise up the native peoples of Chrinthania. They will also be better represented at the local, provincial, and central government levels.

Britain isn’t changing, though. So, that’s something!

MAPPY! https://i.imgur.com/MZq45Le.png

[Marimaia]

I am fully aware that Mari had his one character be Balinese, but at this point, he could be Maori or Pacific Islander from one of the islands I currently have. I apologize for the inconvenience this is causing him. Still, this arrangement will continue to ensure Chrinthania has no land boundaries with any other potential claim, just the way (uh huh, uh huh) I like it.

Eh, no worries Chrin Topan shall become Papuan instead, it's an easy change.

[DaShunchao]

If you want Tibet, Dep, you're more than welcome to it. I'd trade it for Korea. Or Japan. Or the Ryuku Islands.

Or that empty triangle in between Egypt and Sudan.

Have precious little to do with or to Tibet.

[The Kingdom of Arcadia]

Hey all,

As discussed on the Discord channel, I would like to put the following nation forward for application. Happy to answer any and all questions you may have.

The Kingdom of Arcadia

Claims: Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Alaska, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia, Northwest Territories, Nuavet, Yukon
Population: 29,825,000
GDP per Capita: 62,363
Capital: Seattle
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: His Majesty King William V
Head of Government: Prime Minister Richard Stark, The Earl of Seattle
Official Language: English

Holding a large amount of lightly populated territory in North America, the Kingdom of Arcadia is a nation shaped by its environment and constituent parts. The Kingdom boasts a wide variety of natural resources in no small part due to the sheer amount of varied lands the Kingdom contains, and as such has a strong economy and a high quality of its life for its citizens. Given the vast distances contained within the Kingdom, the nobility has always been a significant part of the political life of the Kingdom; with the Crown vesting significant delegated authorities in the Dukes, Earls and lesser nobles throughout the Kingdom’s history, indeed although every County now has its own elected leaders and representatives it’s noble, if it has one, will usually play a significant role, and each State is led by a Duke. The power of the nobility is tempered by the authority of the Crown, and the political power of the House of Commons.

The history of the Kingdom of Arcadia prior to the formation of the Kingdom tends to be a tale retold across the states that now make up the Kingdom; that of powerful city-states led by nobles that steadily grew, joined, conquered and amalgamated their neighbours to form powerful feifs that came together under the authority of the Arcadian Crown (the first King was chosen by secret ballot) in order to end the conflict that had reigned in the years up to the formation of the Kingdom in 1800. Much of the conflict ended with the formation of the Kingdom, however there was sporadic internal fighting as a result of the clash between European settlers, who came to North America, several centuries previously, and the Native Americans, however the fighting is long past and Native Americans are now valued members of Arcadian society.

The Kingdom has not conducted any colonial expansion overseas (yet), however Arcadian trade ships have been a common sight across the Pacific, and beyond, and the Kingdom maintains trading posts far and wide, as well as several naval stations to protect its interests. The preservation of a strong economy is the principal driving force between most political foreign policy thinking, regardless of party, including any colonial adventurism. The only exception to this pragmatism is the in the pursuit of the eradication of slavery and piracy, which the Kingdom has vigorously and consistently upheld with deadly force. In general the Kingdom’s foreign policy will see friendly and productive relations with all other powers, ideology is of less concern than actual actions, however the Kingdom will not hesitate to protect itself. The Kingdom’s trading and naval outposts include:

• Valparaiso (Trading and Naval)
• Midway (Naval)
• Guam (Trading and Naval)
• Tokyo (Trading)
• Samoan Islands (Trading and Naval)

In terms of a Military, the Kingdom maintains a modest army during peacetime, which is generally focused on providing quick reaction forces (for both offensive and defensive duties), but is heavily expanded during times of conflict. In order to accomplish this the Kingdom maintains a large, well-trained and well-equipped system of reserve forces which would be called up in times of conflict. The Kingdom also maintains an Air Force, a largely regular, which is responsible for providing a wide range of services including air defence, tactical and strategic air transport, as well as strategic strike options. The heaviest burden, and the lion’s share of the defence budget, falls upon the Royal Arcadian Navy (RAN), a large, varied fleet responsible for protecting Arcadian interests overseas, as well as bringing concentred force upon a foe upon their own shores. The RAN also contains the Royal Arcadian Marine Corps, a powerful force capable of significant opposed assaults into enemy territory.

[Chrinthanium]

Hey all,

As discussed on the Discord channel, I would like to put the following nation forward for application. Happy to answer any and all questions you may have.

The Kingdom of Arcadia

Claims: Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Alaska, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia, Northwest Territories, Nuavet, Yukon
Population: 29,825,000
GDP per Capita: 62,363
Capital: Seattle
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: His Majesty King William V
Head of Government: Prime Minister Richard Stark, The Earl of Seattle
Official Language: English

Holding a large amount of lightly populated territory in North America, the Kingdom of Arcadia is a nation shaped by its environment and constituent parts. The Kingdom boasts a wide variety of natural resources in no small part due to the sheer amount of varied lands the Kingdom contains, and as such has a strong economy and a high quality of its life for its citizens. Given the vast distances contained within the Kingdom, the nobility has always been a significant part of the political life of the Kingdom; with the Crown vesting significant delegated authorities in the Dukes, Earls and lesser nobles throughout the Kingdom’s history, indeed although every County now has its own elected leaders and representatives it’s noble, if it has one, will usually play a significant role, and each State is led by a Duke. The power of the nobility is tempered by the authority of the Crown, and the political power of the House of Commons.

The history of the Kingdom of Arcadia prior to the formation of the Kingdom tends to be a tale retold across the states that now make up the Kingdom; that of powerful city-states led by nobles that steadily grew, joined, conquered and amalgamated their neighbours to form powerful feifs that came together under the authority of the Arcadian Crown (the first King was chosen by secret ballot) in order to end the conflict that had reigned in the years up to the formation of the Kingdom in 1800. Much of the conflict ended with the formation of the Kingdom, however there was sporadic internal fighting as a result of the clash between European settlers, who came to North America, several centuries previously, and the Native Americans, however the fighting is long past and Native Americans are now valued members of Arcadian society.

The Kingdom has not conducted any colonial expansion overseas (yet), however Arcadian trade ships have been a common sight across the Pacific, and beyond, and the Kingdom maintains trading posts far and wide, as well as several naval stations to protect its interests. The preservation of a strong economy is the principal driving force between most political foreign policy thinking, regardless of party, including any colonial adventurism. The only exception to this pragmatism is the in the pursuit of the eradication of slavery and piracy, which the Kingdom has vigorously and consistently upheld with deadly force. In general the Kingdom’s foreign policy will see friendly and productive relations with all other powers, ideology is of less concern than actual actions, however the Kingdom will not hesitate to protect itself. The Kingdom’s trading and naval outposts include:

• Valparaiso (Trading and Naval)
• Midway (Naval)
• Guam (Trading and Naval)
• Tokyo (Trading)
• Samoan Islands (Trading and Naval)

In terms of a Military, the Kingdom maintains a modest army during peacetime, which is generally focused on providing quick reaction forces (for both offensive and defensive duties), but is heavily expanded during times of conflict. In order to accomplish this the Kingdom maintains a large, well-trained and well-equipped system of reserve forces which would be called up in times of conflict. The Kingdom also maintains an Air Force, a largely regular, which is responsible for providing a wide range of services including air defence, tactical and strategic air transport, as well as strategic strike options. The heaviest burden, and the lion’s share of the defence budget, falls upon the Royal Arcadian Navy (RAN), a large, varied fleet responsible for protecting Arcadian interests overseas, as well as bringing concentred force upon a foe upon their own shores. The RAN also contains the Royal Arcadian Marine Corps, a powerful force capable of significant opposed assaults into enemy territory.

Well, we certainly have a new application! Woot!

As far as your GDP per capita, I know 30 million isn't big (it's even smaller than Chrinthania), so I don't have that much of a problem with the GDP per capita. I am curious to see how you arrived at that number. What kind of economic engine is there in the claim that can kind of justify that GDP per capita? I know it works out to a total GDP of 1,859,976,475,000 overall, which isn't that much more than Chrinthania.

As far as having trading posts, those areas would need to be part of your claim otherwise they technically don't exist in AMW. It's dragonland. We don't apply history or interaction with areas that are unclaimed. That's a guideline we use here. It is to keep future claims from having to have certain history that they may or may not be interested in having.

How big of a military are you planning to have? I see you're concentrating mainly on a navy, which is cool. I like navies. That's why Chrinthania has a decent one. I am not certain what military is native to your claim, though with Boeing having been based in Seattle for a long time, you do have claims on some of that technology. I don't know what kind of naval assets are native to the claim. I'm certain once you're nation's political leaning is figured out, you'll have people offering to sell you things you don't already have. I can say that taking a middle-of-the-road approach would cause Britain to withhold those kinds of sales. Either you're in it with Britain, or you're on your own as far as they're concerned. Chrinthania doesn't sell its military hardware to other nations. Mostly because it doesn't have a lot of it native to the claim, so it buys from its allies.

I am very curious to know how your government works. I see the Constitutional Monarchy seems a tad more involved than what is in Britain or Chrinthania with Dukes having control or at least lots of influence in the individual states.

That's about all the questions I have right now. Might think of more later.

[Beddgelert]

The only bit that really made me pause was Tokyo. Would be a big chunk to take out of Japan, and might lumber a future applicant with a certain history?

GDP per capita might be believable, but it's certainly pushing it. Nations IRL achieve that level and higher, but they tend to be much smaller, so handling one billion-dollar off-shore deal bumps up the whole significantly. Ireland and Singapore are probably the only multi-million states up at those levels without being petro-driven, and even they (and the similarly wealthy petro states) are several hundred percent smaller than the proposed Arcadia. Of course, Arcadia will be blessed with an enormous amount of oily resources, so it's probably conceivable.

Are the white settlers likely to be some splinter group that didn't stop when the Walmingtonians did, and kept going, or something? I have the impression -can't imagine why!- that it's a vaguely Anglo-Saxon lead society?

[The Kingdom of Arcadia]

Thanks for the feedback.

As we discussed in Discord, I am perfectly happy to drop any activity around Tokyo in the interest of preserving flexibility for any future applicants, As we also discussed I would also be more than happy to claim instead of merely have trading outposts, etc, however if I am going to outright claim I would want to have a look at other islands etc in the Pacific area. If the Kingdom has actively claimed territory in the Pacific, it would have done so as part of a joined up policy rather than ad hoc, as such I would have to have a clear picture of what was claimed (like not missing an entire island chain and have it there behind other islands further out, etc. I'll look further into this and get back to you.

With regards to my GDP per capita, and again as discussed in Discord, I based my number off of Mari's calculations, and I'm more than happy to adjust after further discussion, after further recalculation after additional claims.

With regards to the Military; the Royal Arcadian Navy's historic responsibility will have been the protection of the Kingdom's colonies, it's trade ships and the eradication of piracy, etc. As such the RAN is largely focused around presence, in the form of a large number of corvettes, frigates and destroyers; backed up by a small but potent strike force held in reserve in home waters. The RAN will be present in many waters, protecting Arcadian interests, however not in any great strength, away from Arcadian naval stations and outside of a major operation. I described the Royal Arcadian Marine Corps as 'powerful' as, during peacetime, it will rival the Royal Arcadian Army, and will be the main arm of the Arcadian Military for land operation (from the sea). During wartime it will not increase dramatically, in the same way that the Army does, and it will serve as a spearhead force.

The questions regarding the European settlers and the political system are interlinked. The Arcadian people are made up of people from all over Europe, the initial company was English (see the history) below, hence English as the official langauge, etc, however I intend there to be influences from all over Europe in the final nation.

The back story I intend for the Kingdom, in abstract, is as follows:

Following reports from the New World of great wealth to be found, a group of nobles, merchants and other notables in England formed the Arcadia Company, with the expressed intention of forming a colonial expedition to the New World; far beyond the eastern seaboard of what would become North America; the Arcadia Company sought the untold wealth of the interior of the New World. The Company knew that to be successful they would need a major expedition, and were unable to attain governmental backing as many thought it to be unsound, and as such the expedition reached outwards, ultimately numbering some fifty thousand people; some sixty per cent came from Western Europe (predominantly England, but also others), whilst the remainer came from Eastern Europe and beyond. These initial colonists were all promised a certain plot of land in the New World, as part of signing on to the expedition.

Although initially successful the Colony was hit, some ten years after establishment, by a virulent plague, wiping out some sixty per cent of the population. With the Colony in peril, the Arcadia Company arranged for new colonists, however fearing that they would lose control over the colony, the original colonists converted their corporate-led society into a constitutional monarchy; with each of the remaining colonists holding a title of nobility and larger tracts of land. Some of the new colonists who arrived and were wealthy also became nobles, but usually of a lower rank than those of the first wave (Barons, as opposed to Earls, or Dukes). Colonists of a more modest income became termed yeomen, and made up the middle class, whilst those who could not pay their own way (and required charity from the company in order to join) were given only a small amount of land in the new world and became the main working class. Over the history of the Kingdom, the nobility has remained a powerful political force, as a result of this history.

[Beddgelert]

The claim seems like a worthwhile addition (even if we are being gradually swamped by Saxons, there are ways and means for dealing with such outbreaks IC rather than OOC), over all, and a player who's willing to listen to concerns and get involved here and off-site is probably a boon to AMW, eh?

Pending final decisions on the colonial holdings, I'm probably going to be happy enough to support this application, for what that's worth.

My inclination -and this is only me- would be to look to a few other nations for a guide on GDP. This smaller but well-resourced claim apparently built by enterprising types seems perfectly believable as one of the richest in AMW. I believe that Amerique's per-capita figure is $52,179, Chrinthania's $42,517, Walmington's $52,220 (but we may be waiting for an update there? Not sure if that's post revision to the claim), and California's $51,639 (I thought it were higher!?), and I think those are the only ones above $40k, right? I certainly wouldn't begrudge Arcadia a figure over $50,000, but in all honesty I'm not sure how high is plausible with AMW's conditions, nor indeed how much a few billion dollars in output matters here or there, in the grand scheme of things?

[Chrinthanium]

The claim seems like a worthwhile addition (even if we are being gradually swamped by Saxons, there are ways and means for dealing with such outbreaks IC rather than OOC), over all, and a player who's willing to listen to concerns and get involved here and off-site is probably a boon to AMW, eh?

Pending final decisions on the colonial holdings, I'm probably going to be happy enough to support this application, for what that's worth.

My inclination -and this is only me- would be to look to a few other nations for a guide on GDP. This smaller but well-resourced claim apparently built by enterprising types seems perfectly believable as one of the richest in AMW. I believe that Amerique's per-capita figure is $52,179, Chrinthania's $42,517, Walmington's $52,220 (but we may be waiting for an update there? Not sure if that's post revision to the claim), and California's $51,639 (I thought it were higher!?), and I think those are the only ones above $40k, right? I certainly wouldn't begrudge Arcadia a figure over $50,000, but in all honesty I'm not sure how high is plausible with AMW's conditions, nor indeed how much a few billion dollars in output matters here or there, in the grand scheme of things?

I'm inclined to agree. Though, as a Pacific claim, I'm more concerned (in all honesty) with just how far out your ships are preparing to sail. Chrinthania may be a nation full of sex-crazed, surfing-obsessed, peace-loving hippie types (with kickass Australian accents and some almost-as-kickass Kiwi accents), but that doesn't mean we shirk a potential threat..... at least not forever Like your Arcadians, the Chrinthani are not afraid to defend themselves if pressed to do so. As far as Britain is concerned, it has no real claims in the Pacific and, well, it doesn't care what you do out there.

[Amerique]

The claim seems like a worthwhile addition (even if we are being gradually swamped by Saxons, there are ways and means for dealing with such outbreaks IC rather than OOC), over all, and a player who's willing to listen to concerns and get involved here and off-site is probably a boon to AMW, eh?

Pending final decisions on the colonial holdings, I'm probably going to be happy enough to support this application, for what that's worth.

My inclination -and this is only me- would be to look to a few other nations for a guide on GDP. This smaller but well-resourced claim apparently built by enterprising types seems perfectly believable as one of the richest in AMW. I believe that Amerique's per-capita figure is $52,179, Chrinthania's $42,517, Walmington's $52,220 (but we may be waiting for an update there? Not sure if that's post revision to the claim), and California's $51,639 (I thought it were higher!?), and I think those are the only ones above $40k, right? I certainly wouldn't begrudge Arcadia a figure over $50,000, but in all honesty I'm not sure how high is plausible with AMW's conditions, nor indeed how much a few billion dollars in output matters here or there, in the grand scheme of things?

Actually, my GDP per capita is the first figure, £36,329, because I assumed the Walmingtonian pound was our reserve currency/USD equivalent so it equates to $36,329 per capita. The 52,179$ is in the weaker American dollar which is why I placed the dollar sign after the number to try to avoid some confusion. I can change it now that Walmington isn't the de facto superpower.

[The Kingdom of Arcadia]

Following our discussions here, and on Discord, I would like to adjust my claims to include the following territories, which I had intended as training/naval outposts.

• Guam, and the Marinas Islands
• Caroline Islands
• Marshall Islands
• Kiribati
• Samoa and American Samoa
• Valpariso Province, Chile
• Wake Island
• Midway

This would, by my calculations, raise my population to 31,145,000

Following discussions, I would restate my GDP per Capita as, approximately, $56,000.

Are there any other areas of contention?

[DaShunchao]

I'm not a huge fan of anyone taking Tokyo who's not me, but whatever.

As to trading posts, the Celestial coast is more than open to have whatever you'd like to set up, which may obviate the need for maintaining empty pacific islands into the 21st century. (old style) Factories are probably quite common.

[Janszoonia]

This is the territory of my nation
Indonesian Papua and West Papua (Indonesia) I am at war with Keaulcan, which is Papua New Guinea.

[Chrinthanium]

This is the territory of my nation
Indonesian Papua and West Papua (Indonesia) I am at war with Keaulcan, which is Papua New Guinea.

If you're interested in applying, please refer to the first two posts in this thread so you can see what we're looking for in an application as well as what areas of our group is available.

Thank you for your interest and we look forward to your application.

[Janszoonia]

This is the territory of my nation
Indonesian Papua and West Papua (Indonesia) I am at war with Keaulcan, which is Papua New Guinea.

If you're interested in applying, please refer to the first two posts in this thread so you can see what we're looking for in an application as well as what areas of our group is available.

Thank you for your interest and we look forward to your application.

Application 2.0 here.

Government: Small
Janszoonia is run by 3 groups: The Calvinist Church of The Indies, the Janszoonian military, and various corporations. Janszoonia, falling in line with Calvinism, has very liberal social laws. Janszoonia does, however, have bans on abortion and gay adoption. Public nudity and prostitution are legal in Janszoonia, as are all drugs. Janszoonia also has mandatory military service for all able bodied, mentally fit, Christian and Jewish males between the ages of 16 to 20.

History: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
Janszoonia was founded in 1610 as a Dutch colony. Since 1810, the end of the last Anglo-Dutch war, Janszoonia has been a part of the British colony of Keaulcan. In 1848 Janszoonian banana farmers, inspired by the revolutions in Europe, went on strike. After the Banana farmers were on strike for 1 month riots started against British government offices in Janszoonia. The riots and strikes eventually became a revolution. In 1850, the British decided to give Janszoonia autonomy, but it remained under the British crown. The extreme revolutionaries were not content with this, but the banana farmers were happy to have their jobs back, as well as the ability to sell all bananas they picked that exceeded the quota. As for the majority of revolutionaries, they were content with government buildings being labeled in Dutch instead of English.
In 1914 World War 1 started. This meant that Janszoonia and Keaulcan were tasked with taking out the German New Guinea colony. They were able to take the colony within 3 months of fighting, while the European powers were just starting to realize how much of a mistake the war was. Janszoonian, Keaulcanian, Australian, and New Zealander forces joined together to form the JANZKAC, Janszoonian, Australian, New Zealander, and Keaulcanian Army Corps. In February of 1915, JANZKAC was deployed to Gallipoli, to secure the sea of Marmara and open a supply route to Russia. The battle of Gallipoli failed in 1916, and so the Janszoonian and Keaulcanian armies were deployed to Africa, while the ANZAC was deployed to the Middle East. The Janszoonian general Nicolaas van Aalbers commanded the Tanganyika offensive against German East Africa. The JanKAC took the colony in November of the same year.

In 1918, World War 1 ended. German New Guinea was given to Keaulcan, which was later absorbed into Australia. In 1921, inspired by the bolshevik victory in Russia, the Janszoonian Communist Party rose against the government. In 1923, the communists were defeated. Following the civil war, Janszoonia experienced some economic growth. This economic growth would last until 1929, when the Great Depression started.

In response to the Great Depression, Janszoonia would pass a string a string of privatization and liberalization reforms. This would form the system known as Market Anarchism, which would eventually form into Anarcho-Capitalism. Because of these reforms, the Janszoonian economy boomed while almost every other country struggled with the Great Depression. The liberal reforms also helped lower tensions between White Christians and Muslim Natives. In 1931, in response to the Japanese invasion of Manchuria, Janszoonia passed a light conscription in order to fend off the Japanese. This made Janszoonia the first allied nation to begin mobilization against what would become the Axis Powers. In 1933, when Hitler rose to power in Germany and promised to destroy Britain and France for their treatment of Germany following The Great War, Janszoonia mobilized more men in the increasingly likely event of a second Great War.

Janszoonia entered World War 2 in 1939, following the German invasion of Poland. 20,000 Janszoonian troops were deployed to France, and 5,000 were able to return home via the miracle at Dunkirk. These 5,000 Janszoonian soldiers were deployed to Ethiopia in order to sabotage Italian efforts in Africa and secretly assist the Ethiopian resistance. In 1941, the Japanese attacked Janszoonia and Keaulcan. The island would stay occupied until 1944, when the Americans liberated New Guinea on their way to Singapore. The war ended in 1945, with the Russians taking Berlin and the Americans nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The resulting peace would see both Janszoonia and Keaulcan absorbed into Australia until 1955.

On July 10, 1955 New Guinea became an independent nation. It was ruled by a Democratic-Socialist named Pinketa Kore who tried to keep peace between the Muslims and Christians. In 1956, the CIA overthrew the Democratic Socialist government of New Guinea and installed a dictatorship run by Sander van Doorn. The remaining democratic socialists became communists once they realized how much they would have to fight to regain New Guinea from the CIA. The brutal CIA dictatorship regularly imprisoned socialists and Muslims. This government had no restraint on torturing political opponents. It was eventually replaced with a liberal capitalist government run by Charles Thompson in 1960, but the troubles would not end there. While the Thompson government did take measures to reduce tensions between Christians and Muslims, it was not enough to prevent inevitable civil war.

This civil war started on July 22, 1968 when Suharto of Indonesia declared his support of any and all action by Muslim Keaulcanians against the government of New Guinea, which was run predominantly by white Christians. That day was when Janszoonia and Keaulcan officially formed separate nations. Indonesian support for Keaulcan, and western and Indian support for Janszoonia, ended in 1969. This was because Indonesia, the western powers, and India worked together in order to support South Vietnam. This led to the South Vietnamese winning the war in 1975.

While Indonesia and the west were fighting the Vietnam war, the New Guinea war greatly deescalated. It re-escalated in 1975, as the two sides of the war started gaining support again. The Janszoonians pushed Keaulcan back to the Eastern half of New Guinea, this situation led to the trench warfare which lasted from 1977 to 1981. The war was deescalated by Ronald Reagan, and a line was drawn directly through New Guinea dividing Janszoonia and Keaulcan.

The war started back up, again, on September 12, 2001. This is because Keaulcan, emboldened by the attack on the United States the day before, launched a massive border raid and numerous terror attacks. This ended on October 11, 2001 when George W. Bush negotiated a United Nations zone stretching 5 miles into each nation's territory.

Culture: short
Janszoonian culture is a mixture between English, Dutch, and American influences. The Dutch influences have been waning since World War 1, however, due to the fact that most Dutch speakers are growing old and not passing their language and culture to their children. Since then, Janszoonia has been largely Americanized. Despite this Americanization, however, Janszoonia has avoided the obesity associated with American culture.

Economy/culture: short
This is because Janszoonia has banned GMO products and does not subsidize any industries. There are no minimum wage laws in Janszoonia, nor are there any welfare programs. All roads in Janszoonia, except for military ones, are privatized. American media is the most consumed media in the country, and due to the lack of drug laws, the black market exclusively sells and deals in Big Macs. Everything is privatized in Janszoonia except for the military and the government itself.

Military: Short

the Janszoonian military has been thoroughly Americanized. It has 1 million reservists, .2 million pilots, .1 million sailors, and .7 million regular land soldiers. Of those regulars are 500K mechanized soldiers, 5K paratroopers, 20K island troops, 1K special forces, 15K police, 100K border guards, 9K artillery troops, and 350K infantrymen. The Janszoonian navy consists of 10 destroyers, 5 submarines, and 3 cruisers. Janszoonia has 100 fighter jets, 20 helicopters, 500 transport helicopters, and 20 bombers. Janszoonia also has 1,000 American drones.

I hope this is sufficient.

[Chrinthanium]

If you're interested in applying, please refer to the first two posts in this thread so you can see what we're looking for in an application as well as what areas of our group is available.

Thank you for your interest and we look forward to your application.

Application 2.0 here.

Government: Small
Janszoonia is run by 3 groups: The Calvinist Church of The Indies, the Janszoonian military, and various corporations. Janszoonia, falling in line with Calvinism, has very liberal social laws. Janszoonia does, however, have bans on abortion and gay adoption. Public nudity and prostitution are legal in Janszoonia, as are all drugs. Janszoonia also has mandatory military service for all able bodied, mentally fit, Christian and Jewish males between the ages of 16 to 20.

History: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
Janszoonia was founded in 1610 as a Dutch colony. Since 1810, the end of the last Anglo-Dutch war, Janszoonia has been a part of the British colony of Keaulcan. In 1848 Janszoonian banana farmers, inspired by the revolutions in Europe, went on strike. After the Banana farmers were on strike for 1 month riots started against British government offices in Janszoonia. The riots and strikes eventually became a revolution. In 1850, the British decided to give Janszoonia autonomy, but it remained under the British crown. The extreme revolutionaries were not content with this, but the banana farmers were happy to have their jobs back, as well as the ability to sell all bananas they picked that exceeded the quota. As for the majority of revolutionaries, they were content with government buildings being labeled in Dutch instead of English.
In 1914 World War 1 started. This meant that Janszoonia and Keaulcan were tasked with taking out the German New Guinea colony. They were able to take the colony within 3 months of fighting, while the European powers were just starting to realize how much of a mistake the war was. Janszoonian, Keaulcanian, Australian, and New Zealander forces joined together to form the JANZKAC, Janszoonian, Australian, New Zealander, and Keaulcanian Army Corps. In February of 1915, JANZKAC was deployed to Gallipoli, to secure the sea of Marmara and open a supply route to Russia. The battle of Gallipoli failed in 1916, and so the Janszoonian and Keaulcanian armies were deployed to Africa, while the ANZAC was deployed to the Middle East. The Janszoonian general Nicolaas van Aalbers commanded the Tanganyika offensive against German East Africa. The JanKAC took the colony in November of the same year.

In 1918, World War 1 ended. German New Guinea was given to Keaulcan, which was later absorbed into Australia. In 1921, inspired by the bolshevik victory in Russia, the Janszoonian Communist Party rose against the government. In 1923, the communists were defeated. Following the civil war, Janszoonia experienced some economic growth. This economic growth would last until 1929, when the Great Depression started.

In response to the Great Depression, Janszoonia would pass a string a string of privatization and liberalization reforms. This would form the system known as Market Anarchism, which would eventually form into Anarcho-Capitalism. Because of these reforms, the Janszoonian economy boomed while almost every other country struggled with the Great Depression. The liberal reforms also helped lower tensions between White Christians and Muslim Natives. In 1931, in response to the Japanese invasion of Manchuria, Janszoonia passed a light conscription in order to fend off the Japanese. This made Janszoonia the first allied nation to begin mobilization against what would become the Axis Powers. In 1933, when Hitler rose to power in Germany and promised to destroy Britain and France for their treatment of Germany following The Great War, Janszoonia mobilized more men in the increasingly likely event of a second Great War.

Janszoonia entered World War 2 in 1939, following the German invasion of Poland. 20,000 Janszoonian troops were deployed to France, and 5,000 were able to return home via the miracle at Dunkirk. These 5,000 Janszoonian soldiers were deployed to Ethiopia in order to sabotage Italian efforts in Africa and secretly assist the Ethiopian resistance. In 1941, the Japanese attacked Janszoonia and Keaulcan. The island would stay occupied until 1944, when the Americans liberated New Guinea on their way to Singapore. The war ended in 1945, with the Russians taking Berlin and the Americans nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The resulting peace would see both Janszoonia and Keaulcan absorbed into Australia until 1955.

On July 10, 1955 New Guinea became an independent nation. It was ruled by a Democratic-Socialist named Pinketa Kore who tried to keep peace between the Muslims and Christians. In 1956, the CIA overthrew the Democratic Socialist government of New Guinea and installed a dictatorship run by Sander van Doorn. The remaining democratic socialists became communists once they realized how much they would have to fight to regain New Guinea from the CIA. The brutal CIA dictatorship regularly imprisoned socialists and Muslims. This government had no restraint on torturing political opponents. It was eventually replaced with a liberal capitalist government run by Charles Thompson in 1960, but the troubles would not end there. While the Thompson government did take measures to reduce tensions between Christians and Muslims, it was not enough to prevent inevitable civil war.

This civil war started on July 22, 1968 when Suharto of Indonesia declared his support of any and all action by Muslim Keaulcanians against the government of New Guinea, which was run predominantly by white Christians. That day was when Janszoonia and Keaulcan officially formed separate nations. Indonesian support for Keaulcan, and western and Indian support for Janszoonia, ended in 1969. This was because Indonesia, the western powers, and India worked together in order to support South Vietnam. This led to the South Vietnamese winning the war in 1975.

While Indonesia and the west were fighting the Vietnam war, the New Guinea war greatly deescalated. It re-escalated in 1975, as the two sides of the war started gaining support again. The Janszoonians pushed Keaulcan back to the Eastern half of New Guinea, this situation led to the trench warfare which lasted from 1977 to 1981. The war was deescalated by Ronald Reagan, and a line was drawn directly through New Guinea dividing Janszoonia and Keaulcan.

The war started back up, again, on September 12, 2001. This is because Keaulcan, emboldened by the attack on the United States the day before, launched a massive border raid and numerous terror attacks. This ended on October 11, 2001 when George W. Bush negotiated a United Nations zone stretching 5 miles into each nation's territory.

Culture: short
Janszoonian culture is a mixture between English, Dutch, and American influences. The Dutch influences have been waning since World War 1, however, due to the fact that most Dutch speakers are growing old and not passing their language and culture to their children. Since then, Janszoonia has been largely Americanized. Despite this Americanization, however, Janszoonia has avoided the obesity associated with American culture.

Economy/culture: short
This is because Janszoonia has banned GMO products and does not subsidize any industries. There are no minimum wage laws in Janszoonia, nor are there any welfare programs. All roads in Janszoonia, except for military ones, are privatized. American media is the most consumed media in the country, and due to the lack of drug laws, the black market exclusively sells and deals in Big Macs. Everything is privatized in Janszoonia except for the military and the government itself.

Military: Short

the Janszoonian military has been thoroughly Americanized. It has 1 million reservists, .2 million pilots, .1 million sailors, and .7 million regular land soldiers. Of those regulars are 500K mechanized soldiers, 5K paratroopers, 20K island troops, 1K special forces, 15K police, 100K border guards, 9K artillery troops, and 350K infantrymen. The Janszoonian navy consists of 10 destroyers, 5 submarines, and 3 cruisers. Janszoonia has 100 fighter jets, 20 helicopters, 500 transport helicopters, and 20 bombers. Janszoonia also has 1,000 American drones.

I hope this is sufficient.

Well, I appreciate the effort here. It is kind of obvious that you didn't read the 2nd post otherwise you'd know that Papua New Guinea and the adjacent areas of Indonesia are already claimed. None of the history you're banking on happened, there's no World War 1 or 2, there's no Suharto, none of it happened. There was no Anglo-Dutch war. I appreciate your effort, but perhaps AMW is not the place for you.

[Chrinthanium]

Following our discussions here, and on Discord, I would like to adjust my claims to include the following territories, which I had intended as training/naval outposts.

• Guam, and the Marinas Islands
• Caroline Islands
• Marshall Islands
• Kiribati
• Samoa and American Samoa
• Valpariso Province, Chile
• Wake Island
• Midway

This would, by my calculations, raise my population to 31,145,000

Following discussions, I would restate my GDP per Capita as, approximately, $56,000.

Are there any other areas of contention?

You took our concerns and worked on your application. You showed us you want to be here. You showed me that you're every bit the player we're looking for in AMW and I have no objections to this whatsoever.