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by United Kongo » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:01 am
by Chrinthanium » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:41 pm
United Kongo wrote:Joining with the trend, I too would like to do a claim shift from my current location (although I wasn't their very long).
The new claim is the Kingdom of Sennar, consisting of
al Jazira state (Sudan) 4,926,555
Sennar state (Sudan) 1,532,085
White Nile state (Sudan) 1,140,694
Blue Nile (Sudan) 832,112
Kassala state (Sudan) 1,171,118
al Qadarif state (Sudan) 1,369,300
Upper Nile state (South Sudan) 964,353
Benishangul-Gumuz region (Ethiopia) 976,000
West Welega zone (Oromia region, Ethiopia) 1,350,415
Kelam Welega zone (Oromia region, Ethiopia) 797,666
with a total population of 15, 060, 298. Apologies to Chrin for cutting through country subdivisions but I did make a map to show what this cut entails.
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I've made this claim mainly because the area was one that I was considering claiming before as Sudan/the Horn of Africa is a particular interest of mine but I decided against it as it would have meant at the time that it would've been a landlocked claim with no neighbours. With Marimaia having claimed parts of Sudan though, this has created an opportunity for the claim.
Fundamentally, Sennar will have the same characteristics as Daresalam, with a wealthy governing group ruling over an impoverished country that more or less has sold out the countries resources to foreign companies and relies on ethnic/tribal patronage networks and repression in order to maintain control of the state. The history will be quite different however, as I have already discussed with Marimaia over tg to work out the details. Namely it will based off the old Sennar Sultanate that ruled over much of Sudan from the 16th to late 18th century. With the 19th century the Sultanate is already in terminal decline as various vassals to the north break off and the state more or less withers away,allowing foriegn merchants and mercenaries to move in. The Mahdist movement will feature in Sennar, taking over the region and using it as a base to expand between 1881-1898 and eventually forcing the Caliphate's hand to invade and destroy the Mahdists, creating the Sennar Wilayah.
From this point until the 1950s Sennar will act as a frontier territory of the Marimaian Caliphs. Between the 1950s and 1970s will be Sennar's long road to independence in lieu of the Great Reforms occurring in Marimaia around this point in time, with efforts initially being made to integrate Sennar fully within the Caliphate. However as a result of growing Communist/Nationalist agitation the situation turns in to a Bush war that is not deemed worth the effort, and so negotiations turn to decolonisation instead with the aim of installing a friendly conservative regime. The process with culminate with Sennar's independence under a Malik (King) and a Congo Crisis style event with an attempted takeover by Communist/Nationalist groups that is squashed with outside assistance. Beginning with the 1990s /2000s will be Sennar's economic privatisation with large grants of farmland, oil and mineral concessions granted to foriegn corporations, making the Malik and his ruling circle very wealthy but having huge social ramifications for the population that loses access to landThis would create a potentially explosive situation in the present day with rising popular discontent.
I would ideally like to keep some of the other shared history I had planned for Daresalam with Sennar. Chingiz could still gain his African mercs (and I guess Hippo) from Sennar. Also TCB, although Gandvik wouldn't play a direct colonial role anymore, I would like to keep a Gandvian Amin Pasha like figure to conquer Sennar on behalf of the Marimaians and rule it as his private domain for a few decades, maybe with the help of colonial civil servants and troops from Sumatra.
by Marimaia » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:12 pm
United Kongo wrote:*snip*
by AMW Applications » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:56 pm
by Cassanos » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:52 am
Chrinthanium wrote:EDIT AGAIN: Dear god, EP, you've left what could be a hell of a great location for a reconstitution of the Western Roman Empire. I... I.... must... not....
by Chrinthanium » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:24 pm
by Beddgelert » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:09 pm
by Chrinthanium » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:58 pm
Beddgelert wrote:I'm a Cass man! [does a little dance in chair]
Er, I mean, while this isn't of vital importance, I'd like to apply for an extension to the CSR before I hit the meat of my factbooking. Namely, the Italian regions of Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Veneto, Trentino-Alto, to make my Austrian arm look less weird in the wider context, add about seven million people, and without knackering a future Italian claim. Some 7.15 million people, at a rough estimate.
I'd be inclined to shift a semi-Celtic Venetii tribe back here, and have it long blended with Roman and Tsagic entities, leading to sporadic despotates and -later- republics on and around the area, before the red brigades put a stop to all of that nonsense in probably the twentieth century.
I think that it fits well enough, geographically and likely historically, with the rest of the claim.
But, as I say, I'm not set heart and soul on the matter if anyone should seriously object.
by The Kingdom of Arcadia » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:49 am
by The Crooked Beat » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:13 pm
by Chrinthanium » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:18 pm
The Kingdom of Arcadia wrote:After discussions, and with your permission, I would like to adjust my claim to drop all of my Canadian territories in favour of adding the following five U.S States:
Kansas
Colorado
Texas
New Mexico
Oklahoma
With my population adjusting to account for the loss of Canada and the gain of the five states to 66,000,000
The Crooked Beat wrote:Hello everyone,
Seeing as I can't manage to organize my thoughts regarding Parsistan past some empty factbooking, and can't seem to concoct a concept for the place which isn't just an alternate-Iran, and seeing also as people have been waiting for replies from me about the state's nature and relationships which I haven't quite felt able to answer since there's still so much about Parsistan which is either up in the air or which I'd like to completely change, it seems that the proper thing to do is to just drop it. Surely others will be able to use the area and the possibilities represented by it to much better effect.
Also, while the matter deserves a much better response than that which I'm going to give here, I give Cass full authority to do as he likes with Sweden and Norway, provided no Finnish territories are removed without at least discussing it with me first. Whatever ideas I might at one time or another have harbored for those two countries don't amount to anything worth discussing, so Cass is welcome to them. (And most welcome to have back, besides!)
by DaShunchao » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:11 pm
by DaShunchao » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:27 pm
by Marimaia » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:04 pm
DaShunChao wrote:After further discussion in the discord, the new treaty ports are as follows:
Macau - whoever gets Portugal. Chrinth, it looks like?
Hong Kong (Island and Kowloon) - Looks like Cassanos is taking it for his new claim
Quanzhou City - Marimaia
Xiamen - Valendia
If any other western states would like a treaty port, let me know soon please.
by Europe - Prussia » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:13 pm
by Chrinthanium » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:44 pm
Marimaia wrote:DaShunChao wrote:After further discussion in the discord, the new treaty ports are as follows:
Macau - whoever gets Portugal. Chrinth, it looks like?
Hong Kong (Island and Kowloon) - Looks like Cassanos is taking it for his new claim
Quanzhou City - Marimaia
Xiamen - Valendia
If any other western states would like a treaty port, let me know soon please.
I wholeheartedly agree with the stated transfer of land
In addition, since Oman and the UAE are now unclaimed, plus Socotra is all alone in the Arabian Sea.......I would like to step up and claim them to finish off the Arabian Peninsula. However, Cass will be receiving the city of Abu Dhabi for his own claim. I don't believe that Abu Dhabi city is a separate administrative division so apologies if that's annoying Chrin (sorry).
In total this would add 20,677,907 people to the Caliphate. I would end up with a population of 192,063,009 with a GDP per capita of $22,021 (as ever, GDP negotiable).
Europe - Prussia wrote:So, continuing the recent claim changes, and after talking with Cass of Discord, I've deiced to drop the Danish part of the Jutland Peninsula so Cass may take it (after all, what's a Danelaw claim without danes in it?) and I'll take the Channel Islands instead; it's an exchange, in other words.
Secondly, after a discussion with Roania on Discord, I will drop Macau and take Xiamen instead, with Ro's permission of course.
And finally, to make up for the lost population, I'd like to claim both Singapore (now that is unclaimed) and Brunei, which will serve nicely to connect Mauritius and Goa with Xiamen.
So, minus the Danish part of the Jutland Peninsula (2,643,571) and Macau (601,969) and plus the Channel Islands (164,541), Singapore (5,888,926), Brunei (443,593) and Xiamen (1,861,289) my population would go from 157,470,564 to 162,583,373.
by Carlist Spains » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:15 pm
by Carlist Spains » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:51 pm
by United Kongo » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:58 am
Carlist Spains wrote:Considering that my lands are these, you would need to wipe out most of American nations that already exist, and some european ones too.
by Carlist Spains » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:12 am
United Kongo wrote:Carlist Spains wrote:Considering that my lands are these, you would need to wipe out most of American nations that already exist, and some european ones too.
If you would consider scaling back those claims and writing up a decent app you could certainly apply.
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