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Chrinthania
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Postby Chrinthania » Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:26 am

Balto,

I love your idea, though there's already a claim where you're searching. Erm, gosh, I really think you'll be good, so I want to work with you to see what can be done. Thumbs up from me!
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Cassanos
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Postby Cassanos » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:48 am

Balto, I like the idea and would be happy to see you join AMW. Finally some love for the smaller tribes of Europe ;). We might have some space in the area of RL-Denmark after a player moved claims, if you think a Wendish colony in Jutland would be interesting.
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The Balto-Wendish Empire
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Postby The Balto-Wendish Empire » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:16 am

Thanks for the support guys.

Cassanos wrote:We might have some space in the area of RL-Denmark after a player moved claims, if you think a Wendish colony in Jutland would be interesting.

I like this solution. If it works, that is.

Walmington on Sea wrote:In AMW, the Anglo-Saxons went east to Prussia rather than west to Britain, hence the Danish archipelago and East Prussia being English, and the point from which the Empire would expand to the New World et cetera. I don't think there'd be much room for a significant Balto-Wendish population in Amberland ((as East Prussia is known)) after all these centuries ((even if a comprehensive study of the area's genetic map might show some descent from such)), though I can't speak to what the largely Finnic, I think, Gandvians to the north might have to say on the matter.

Ah, I didn't know that. Well Eastern-European nations tend to not forget their glorious past, even if that means going back several pages of a history book. Even if it causes my nation to be small and squeezed inbetween greater ones, I'd prefer a more plausible location... at least more historic than a part of Asia for example.

"would you still be looking to play a resistance movement within another nation, or happy to do it all yourself in currently unclaimed land?"

I'd do a combination with both. Although if I can get parts of Denmark the resistance part of my RP will only be a small one (I'd prefer it that way).

"central theme be of a seafaring folk, farmers, or isolation after a long and unhappy trek across the continent"
Would be a nice theme explaining the location, indeed.
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The Amyclae
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Postby The Amyclae » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:26 am

I don't have anything to add another than that I'm stoked abou a new claim that's filling out a, formerly, inconvinient piece of dragon land.

As for Acadzia... Welp... That's one idea.
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Acadzia
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Postby Acadzia » Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:41 pm

Ooo, a new claim.

A new, interesting claim!
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The Crooked Beat
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Postby The Crooked Beat » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:23 pm

A very late vote of approval for the Balto-Wendish Empire's application! Looks like a very interesting idea.

One that might involve Gandvik, too, which is a primarily Finnic power and one of Europe's more influential players, by virtue of its wealth, size, and nuclear arsenal. Probably can be thought of as Russia, in strictly strategic terms, much as it pains me to say it. ;)

If Jutland seems like a decent location, and Cass is willing, then by all means go ahead, but I'd be open to losing a small chunk of Gandvik's Baltic coastline if there is something that you'd consider more ideal. As for the Balto-Wendish people, you're welcome to incorporate Gandvik and Gandvians (by which you can pretty much read Finnish people) into their history as you see fit. Given its territorial extent and, at least until recently, expansionist tendencies, Gandvik doubtless swallowed-up a number of different communities and ethnic groups over the centuries, and if you'd like, the Balto-Wendish can easily still constitute a small, but perhaps geographically-concentrated and culturally distinct, minority population within Gandvik itself, in addition to whatever people happen to be living on Jutland or wherever else you decide. Courland is certainly available as a Wendish homeland, and might also give me the excuse I need to change Gandvik's capital city from Riga to somewhere more suitable for such a large nation. Not Moscow, certainly, but, hmm, maybe Stockholm? Anyway, that's another matter entirely.

In terms of an actual armed resistance, I'm sure we can conjure-up any number of grievances that might convince Wends, at least some of them, to start shooting or bombing Gandvians. Gandvik is a fairly corrupt, patronage-based country and it could be that the Wends never see any of the proceeds from that system, majority-Wend areas might be under-developed and dotted with growing communities of ethnic Gandvians, their language might not be officially recognized, that sort of thing, and then some police brutality could be thrown into the mix as well.

Probably getting ahead of myself here, and of course you're free to do (largely) what you want, and adopt or disregard these ideas as you see fit, but glad at any rate to see some outside interest, and looking forward to future interactions.
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Great Banana Republic
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Postby Great Banana Republic » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:04 pm

I cant make a full application ATM, i'll improve this once I get the chance.

territory: can I have all of unclaimed south america please?

capital: brasilia

languages: spanish

i'm typing on a gen1 kindle so please forgive me

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Acadzia
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Postby Acadzia » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:46 pm

Great Banana Republic wrote:I cant make a full application ATM, i'll improve this once I get the chance.

territory: can I have all of unclaimed south america please?

capital: brasilia

languages: spanish

i'm typing on a gen1 kindle so please forgive me


Well, you'd need to make a full application before you "can have" anything.

The remainder of South America is quite large, perhaps too large for an AMW state (we tend to shy away from "superpowers", with our largest state, in terms of population, being Hibernordia at roughly 137 million people.)

I understand how hard it is to type anything of significance on a mobile device. Don't worry, AMW has been around for about 10 years, we're not going anywhere. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say I look forward to seeing a full app from you when you're able to get near a PC.
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National Socialist City of Cologne
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Postby National Socialist City of Cologne » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:39 am

I took only a quick look through the Current List of Claimed areas, to find for what I could read no mention of Australia / New Zealand territory, and thus, I will use this post as a possibly claim to either of these places.

I'm looking to claim Australia (Mainland), with no particular mention of the islands that are currently also considered Australia (Cook Islands, Tasmania possibly not either etc.) so that these places may remain open for people who aren't going to be very active yet still wish to be a part of the RP.

Alternatively, if Mainland Australia is not available, Either of the New Zealand islands would also be within my area of knowledge and capability. (Or, alternatively again, if the Australia-player agrees, I could RP as a sort of Taiwan-Australia with Tasmania; in essence a disposed government in exile, governing the island of Tasmania.)
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Planned name; The Empire of [Claimed Area that is available] (i.e. The Empire of Australia). In the common tongue this could be referred to also as "Pacific Empire", "Imperium Australia" or any name that would commonly be used in other nations. The Official language is planned to be an awkward one; German in the Cyrillic alphabet. (This to make it possible to use my knowledge of both German and Russian to a point where the Empire would be able to find 'old comrades' with both users of German and the Cyrillic Alphabet alike. Hooray for friendships!)

For the new few parts of writing, I am going to make the application as if my claim is for Australia, please read 'New Zealanders' or whatever is still claimable if Australia is not available.
History;
The Australians, united under King Клаус, proclaimed their existence and unification after a 50-year Civil War, that saw a battle between immigrants of many nations (A Civil War might be a terrible bad choice of words, as the War went at least 5 ways, with every side fighting 4 others), unite as "The Empire of Australia" on July 1st, 1867.
United with the goal of making this huge, arid wasteland, that they called home, a nation to be feared, admired. The Unification didn't go about without causing problems; The biggest two factions, the 'Germanics' in the Eastern Empire, and the 'Slavics' in to the West became the two biggest contenders for the hotspot on the Throne, before eventually an elderly Germanic of Slavic descent stepped forth, himself not having been a part of the Civil War, and vowed to respect both the Germanic and Slavic ways.

Language;
A new culture and language was born; With the crowning of Клаус, the official State language became German, and the alphabet became Cyrillic, which was a Slavic alphabet. It took decades for the elderly to pass away, but the new generations of the 1880's finally began to come at peace in the Empire of the Pacific with their new language and culture.

Religion;
There is no official State Religion, and the practice of religion is frowned down upon. There are no religious structures of any kind, with the exception of the big red mountains (For example Ayers Rock), which could for some Animalistic peoples (Which, by the way, have largely been eliminated) be considered religious sites.

Politics;
The Nation started out as a Socialist paradise, before seeing seventy years of Fascist rule between 1942 and 2005, after which it slowly started to become more democratic as the current ruler came to power.


Highlights;
Capital: If Geographical region is Australia, Capital = Alice Springs.
Population: Australia's population minus Tasmania's population.
Leader: If country is Australia, "Цинтгіа вон Кеулен", or "Cynthia/Tsynthia von Köln" in Latin Alphabet.
Trivia: Australia's city names would all be given new names to fit the Germanification better. I'm great with Photoshop, so if needed I could do all that stuff and make great art. ^-^
Economy: ...Heavily, seriously heavily, relies on Import/Export. Is a massive exporter of natural resources like gold, diamonds, opal, uranium, coal, etc.
Heavily needs to import basic commodities that aren't available in the geographical region of Australasia.
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Cassanos
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Postby Cassanos » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:54 pm

Hey Cologne (which is, if I may say so, a lovely choice of name :) ).
I like your idea, even though it seems a little bare-bones as far as history is concerned - though we usually work that out during the application process. As far as your cultural make-up, let me tell you that we have two Germanophone nations in AMW, namely Valendia (played by Europe-Prussia) Nibelunc (mine). Nibelunc, at least, never took part in the colonization of the world (who needs India when you can fight over a stretch of Pomerania for two hundred years?), though Valendia expanded into the Pacific region and might have been a source of German-speaking people for you. You would need to ask him about it, though.
As for your Slavs, we have a severe lack of those in AMW. We had one Slav nation, Tsalland, which has been taken over and is slowly being extinguished by Geletian Celts. IIRC, though, Tsalland did colonize parts of Africa, so an expansion into whatever region you might end up in might be feasible. Just my two cents.
Oh, and "Australia" and "Pacific" are Roman words, as you certainly know. While West Rome has some tiny colonies in the Pacific and might well have given it its name, perhaps you would consider a different name? Südland, maybe? ;)

/EDIT: Oh, and should you be admitted and play a nation of expatriated Nibeluncs, your people would surely have been disavowed by their homeland ;).
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Walmington on Sea
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Postby Walmington on Sea » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:51 pm

Some potential here, I think, Cologne, but a good deal to discuss, first!

The ethnic distribution of peoples is very different in AMW compared to the real world. As Cassanos has said, the Slavs haven't done too well: much of Russia is dominated by Fennic people, and what would be called the Balkans is instead the Saimonas, and is dominated by Celts, with Greek and Slavic minorities apparent, while Ukraine and surrounds is arguably Germanic. Ish.

An, "Australia" already exists in AMW, but it is situated in Patagonia, in the southern tip of the Americas, and is a colony of my nation, the Walmingtonian Empire, which is... very English (all though 'England' refers to the Danish archipelago!), so you'd probably need another name, but that is, hopefully, just a cosmetic issue and not fundamental to whether or not we'd like to have you on board.

I suppose Slavs down-under could indeed come from the Tsag's wanderings, and Germanic roots possibly from English (Walmingtonian) interest that didn't really last, but shipped in a load of Nibelung types to do the good Protestant colonisation thing. But I probably shouldn't get into the hows and such until more players have chipped in and we've got to know the applicant better.

I am encouraged, anyway, by the apparent lack of greed in your proposal, applying for less than the entirety of a real-world country, which I think is a good sign.
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Great Banana Republic
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Postby Great Banana Republic » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:08 pm

Alright, I'm on a PC now


Government: Similar to the US government, although there are some differences. For one thing, there's no Senate, only House of Representatives. Also, it's a liberal paradise. Marajuana is legal, and people are pretty much free to do whatever, but if they go into business, they are strictly regulated.

Economy: Mainly our economy is focused on the production and sale of bananas on a large scale. It's the cash-crop of this country.

History: I can't think of anything. Any ideas?

Culture: Well, pretty similar to hispanic culture

Military: We have a fairly large military, we are a free country, but we are willing to protect that freedom, and, if push comes to shove, we are not afraid to fight

Territory: Can I have all of the unclaimed portion pf the Northern and Northeastern regions of Brazil with the exception of the province of Rodonia? Also, I'd like the unclaimed portions of the Peruvian provinces of Loreto and Ucayali.

Capital: Manuas

President: Luiz Martins

Languages spoken: mainly Spanish (Yes, I know Brazil speaks Portuguse)

Am I in?

Edit: I have ideas for two other nations, but, of course, they'd be "puppets". One is going to be nothing like this one, and on another part of the world, but the other will be nearby and have the same ideals. Can "puppets" be allowed in? I'll try not to have The United Caribbean Republic (The one with the similar ideals) give this one too much of an advantage and vice versa
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Cassanos
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Postby Cassanos » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:48 am

Hey GBR. I'm afraid I have to tell you that as far as I am concerned, no. You are not in.
You see, in AMW, we are looking for some originality and, yes, want our applicants to show they are willing to work on their application. Your application shows a regrettable lack of these and, quite frankly, reads more like an application for a single war thread in International Incidents. This is not what AMW is looking for. AMW has a complicated, intricate and, yes, sometimes overly complex history, and while it's usually appreciated to ask the community for help, just saying that you can't think of anything does not exactly speak for you as an RPer for AMW. The same goes for culture, we need more than a single line for that, and just saying that your country "is like X, only slightly different" is not enough.
I don't want to go into too much detail about colonization possibilities here, because to be honest, I am quite against letting you into AMW with this application. I don't want to come across as elitist or stuck-up, but if you don't take the time to check whether you spelled your capital's name correctly, I doubt you would take the time to integrate yourself into this community.

You are of course free to prove me wrong and reapply with another, more fleshed-out concept. The applications of The Wendish Empire and Garthurian might be a good start to see what AMW wants.
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Grand Duchy of Nardin
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Postby Grand Duchy of Nardin » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:20 am

Hello, nations of AMW,

Just wanted to ask if this RP is still open for applications. I recently discovered it and would really like to contribute!
Ok then, I had better go start to write a lengthy history for my nation. Oh, one more thing, is it alright with you if I make some sort of Scottish Kingdom? I noticed that it hasn't been claimed yet. :clap:

Thanks!
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Jatriqya and Hoya
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Postby Jatriqya and Hoya » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:55 am

Hi Grand Duchy of Nardin,

We are open for applications (always!). Looking forwards to hearing your application, of course there are a couple weird things happening in AMW (Celts in Eastern Europe, France in England, England in the Danish isles), so once you have a good application we'd be happy to comment on how it can fit into AMW!

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Great Banana Republic
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Postby Great Banana Republic » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:14 pm

Take 2

Government: Similar to the US government, although there are some differences. For one thing, there's no Senate, only House of Representatives. Also, it's a liberal paradise. Marajuana is legal, and people are pretty much free to do whatever, but if they go into business, they are strictly regulated.

Economy: Mainly our economy is focused on the production and sale of bananas on a large scale. It's the cash-crop of this country.

History: Brazil used to be a nice place to live in. I mean, a really nice place. Wonderful beaches and hot babes. That all changed when president Alice Santos came to power. She turned Brazil's democracy into a dictatorship.. An uprising, led by Bruno Ribeiro sought to combat this, however, the southern part was loyal to Alice. Thus, the Brazilian Civil War began. After a long and bloody conflict, the north finally gained it's independence.. The most common crop grown was, you guessed it, bananas, and thus, the country was named after it's cash crop. Influenced by the surrounding Spanish speaking countries, the dialect slowly changed from Portuguese to Spanish. The fledgling nation had a strong economy at first, and purchased some territory from Peru. However, 12 years later, the nation entered an economic recession similar to that of The Great Depression. With no other choice, president Luiz Martins had to sell the northeastern part of the country to other nations, and use the money to attempt to fix the recession. The country has only just recently recovered.

Culture: Although the government is avowedly atheist, the majority of the populace is Catholic. Most of the people here are extremely nice. If you were poor, and knocked on the door of a random house, and begged for food, chances are, you'd be invited for dinner with the family, and if you're really lucky, you'd be invited to stay the night and have breakfast too. With friendly people and excellent beaches, the country is an excellent place to have a vacation.

Military: We have a fairly large military, we are a free country, but we are willing to protect that freedom, and, if push comes to shove, we are not afraid to fight

Territory: Can I have all of the unclaimed portion pf the Northern and Northeastern regions of Brazil with the exception of Rodonia please?Also, I'd like the unclaimed portions of the Peruvian provinces of Loreto and Ucayali.

Capital: Salvador (I realized Manaus isn't part of the territory I claimed)

President: Luiz Martins

Languages spoken: mainly Spanish (Yes, I know Brazil speaks Portuguese)

Better? If there's any problems, I'll try to fix them
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Chrinthania
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Postby Chrinthania » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:21 pm

Holy new applications, Batman!

Hi there, all. I'm Chrinthania. I play the Western Roman Empire and the Democratic Republic of Icarie (NC, SC, VA). First of all, I want to thank you all for your interest in A Modern World. It's really nice to see people who are interested in our little group and who feel they have something to contribute.

Here's what I have to say about the new applications:

Cologne, I like what I see. It is rather bare-bones, but I'd rather have a decent bare-bones application that has tons of potential than a feature-length novel application without any sustenance whatsoever. We can hammer out details between us as the process moves along. That being said, I'm really interested in seeing a bit more information. Probably best to give some details about how the government works and a very rough historical outline (don't worry about getting our history wrong, we'll point out the differences quickly enough).

Again, Cologne, I like what I see and hope to see you as a thriving member of our community!

GBR.....

In the Opening Post of this thread, there is a link to an example application that we feel is representative of the likes of which we'd want to see. The idea of having something "Like the US Government, but different" doesn't really work unless we have more information to digest and understand.

Great Banana Republic wrote:Take 2

Government: Similar to the US government, although there are some differences. For one thing, there's no Senate, only House of Representatives. Also, it's a liberal paradise. Marajuana is legal, and people are pretty much free to do whatever, but if they go into business, they are strictly regulated.

Economy: Mainly our economy is focused on the production and sale of bananas on a large scale. It's the cash-crop of this country.


I have no idea what that all means. It's too vague, too limited in scope, and not really descriptive enough. We want to be introduced to your nation, not given a Cliff's Notes version of what it is. I suggest you take a look at other applications in this thread which have been approved. Also, do some research on the CIA World Factbook and read how the CIA describes nations.

History: Brazil used to be a nice place to live in. I mean, a really nice place. Wonderful beaches and hot babes. That all changed when president Alice Santos came to power. She turned Brazil's democracy into a dictatorship.. An uprising, led by Bruno Ribeiro sought to combat this, however, the southern part was loyal to Alice. Thus, the Brazilian Civil War began. After a long and bloody conflict, the north finally gained it's independence.. The most common crop grown was, you guessed it, bananas, and thus, the country was named after it's cash crop. Influenced by the surrounding Spanish speaking countries, the dialect slowly changed from Portuguese to Spanish. The fledgling nation had a strong economy at first, and purchased some territory from Peru. However, 12 years later, the nation entered an economic recession similar to that of The Great Depression. With no other choice, president Luiz Martins had to sell the northeastern part of the country to other nations, and use the money to attempt to fix the recession. The country has only just recently recovered.

Culture: Although the government is avowedly atheist, the majority of the populace is Catholic. Most of the people here are extremely nice. If you were poor, and knocked on the door of a random house, and begged for food, chances are, you'd be invited for dinner with the family, and if you're really lucky, you'd be invited to stay the night and have breakfast too. With friendly people and excellent beaches, the country is an excellent place to have a vacation.

Military: We have a fairly large military, we are a free country, but we are willing to protect that freedom, and, if push comes to shove, we are not afraid to fight

Territory: Can I have all of the unclaimed portion pf the Northern and Northeastern regions of Brazil with the exception of Rodonia please?Also, I'd like the unclaimed portions of the Peruvian provinces of Loreto and Ucayali.

Capital: Salvador (I realized Manaus isn't part of the territory I claimed)

President: Luiz Martins

Languages spoken: mainly Spanish (Yes, I know Brazil speaks Portuguese)

Better? If there's any problems, I'll try to fix them


Erm, now, as for the application itself. Well, you're assuming there's a Spain and a Portugal in the RL life sense. That didn't happen IRL. The Western Roman Empire never fell and lives on today containing Italy, Portugal, and most of Spain, plus several smaller territories nearby and around the world. Also, I don't want to sound stand-off-ish or rude, but, I really don't care about hot babes and beautiful beaches. There's tons of places in AMW that have that already. When I read a history, I want to know important historical events. When did the Romans (read Spanish, Portuguese) arrive? How did they colonize and conquer the land? When was the republic formed? When did Santos come to power? How did that happen? What was going on in the nation around that time? Why was there an uprising? Bananas only? Isn't there more to your economy than that?

GBR... really, I can't lend support to your application because it really isn't what we're looking for. Feel free to apply again, but, at this time, I have to vote no.

Nardin...

I'd love to see an application and then work from there. The idea has merit, and I wish you luck!
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National Socialist City of Cologne
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Postby National Socialist City of Cologne » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:01 pm

Walmington on Sea wrote:Some potential here, I think, Cologne, but a good deal to discuss, first!

The ethnic distribution of peoples is very different in AMW compared to the real world. As Cassanos has said, the Slavs haven't done too well: much of Russia is dominated by Fennic people, and what would be called the Balkans is instead the Saimonas, and is dominated by Celts, with Greek and Slavic minorities apparent, while Ukraine and surrounds is arguably Germanic. Ish.

An, "Australia" already exists in AMW, but it is situated in Patagonia, in the southern tip of the Americas, and is a colony of my nation, the Walmingtonian Empire, which is... very English (all though 'England' refers to the Danish archipelago!), so you'd probably need another name, but that is, hopefully, just a cosmetic issue and not fundamental to whether or not we'd like to have you on board.

I suppose Slavs down-under could indeed come from the Tsag's wanderings, and Germanic roots possibly from English (Walmingtonian) interest that didn't really last, but shipped in a load of Nibelung types to do the good Protestant colonisation thing. But I probably shouldn't get into the hows and such until more players have chipped in and we've got to know the applicant better.

I am encouraged, anyway, by the apparent lack of greed in your proposal, applying for less than the entirety of a real-world country, which I think is a good sign.


I've already got an idea more or less for how Australia would new named if.. Australia wasn't available.
Generally the accepted way it went in the Real World was that it had been described as "Terra Australis Incognita" (Unknown Southern Land, Latin), as a part of Antarctica for many centuries before we found it that both were seperated from eachother.

I'd go for naming it "Yuzhnyostrova", which is the Russian for "Southern Island" with some minor gramatical edits, much like "Australis" became "Australia", or, alternatively, name it after my own nation's name, Cologne (Köln / Кельн), as a 'roots' to both merge the Germanic influences, but the predominantly Slavic rule. Perhaps the first city that became ruled by a Slavic majority was named Cologne, and thus the nation became to be known as Cologne? Or Colognia.
Really, I don't mind what it would be named, I'm open to suggestions if I were to be accepted.

My personal idea to govern would be to have it slowly build up as a more Fascist nation than modern-day Slavic nations are known for, and instead of the "Red Scare", have a "Black Scare" (That sounds more terrifying!) coming from Australia(Cologne) to the nearby other nations. I don't plan on having it ever become a major power, but more of an intermediate. A nation that has its own ways, is not a superpower, but does not fall into anyone's Sphere of Influence either. Sort of like a nation that the major powers will think of as, "Oh hell no, we aren't dealing with those lunatics!"
I also don't plan on having to do a lot of warfare-related RP. There wouldn't be a large military, although the technology of the military would be perfect. A mix of German and Slavic ingenuity will certainly see some advancements in the Military sector.
If there's a Nuclear presence in AMW, perhaps Colognia/Australia/Whateverthisnation'snamewillbe could be one of the nations where the Nuclear Question isn't confirmed. Common knowledge, perhaps, that there is a Nuclear Weapons programme there, although its destructive capability wouldn't be very high.
(Australia's natural Uranium reserves, are, after all, the World's largest.. If there's a Nuclear weapons programme anywhere in the world, surely the World's largest powers would've gotten some of their bad stuff from that Southern land. Of course only known amongst politicians, not the civilians. Those pesky Civilians wouldn't be allowed to know their their nation would deal with the Slavic/Germanic idiots that live on that large arid island)

Again, I'm just writing down some stuff that would make my nation an interesting one to RP, however, they're subject to change to accord with what's universally agreed upon already. Just my personal opinion, it will budge if required to.

Summary;
-CAN be persuaded to join a Sphere of Influence, however, it is unlikely with the Government that I plan for it to have. The other nation would have to probably change their views to be more in line with Colognia's.
-CAN have a Secret Nuclear Programme, if such thing exists in AMW.
-WILL certainly have a female Head of State who speaks fluent English with an evil Russian-esque accent. (I am unable to RP Male heads of State, have been for years, I don't understand what men think like, so I have big trouble with RP'ing any male character. :P)

Another note: If you want to know more about me as a person, I've already applied to the Site that has your IIRC, but you can alternatively just ask me through Telegram.
PPS: I'm amazing at PhotoShop, would it be acceptable to create gorgeous Propaganda with art to make it more immersive for my citizens to be living in a Fascist paradise, and other stuff?
PPPS: I'd be roleplaying my Nation's Head of State as a ruthless bitch (She's young, naïve and single, with nobody to stop her from doing what she was brought up to be as "right"). She'll consider her nation the greatest on Earth.


PPPPS: Now only to find a symbol for Australia's territory to replace the Slavic/Soviet image of a strong Soviet Bear.
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Chrinthania
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Postby Chrinthania » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:50 am

Cologne, it all seems agreeable to me. Again, we can work out specifics as we move along. I think the time has come for you to at least apply to our offsite at http://s7.zetaboards.com/A_Modern_World and take a look around at the factbooks on display there and gain a better understanding. I know we still haven't heard from a few of our members, so I don't really want to jump the gun too much here. We tend to do things as a group with no one person really exerting too much power in the applications process.

The bear picture made me chuckle. PhotoShop to your heart's content. We're cool with all that!

As far as joining a sphere of influence/political bloc, that's entirely up to you. It's not unprecedented that someone had a nation that did its own thing (looking at you, Beddgelert!).

I think that, as far as my opinion counts, you'll be an asset to our community, Cologne. Just remember, we don't care that you have a female head of state. I think AMW is rather lacking in that department anyway.

If you need assistance with anything, we're always available through our Big Discussion Thread, through the offsite, through the AMW IRC room (irc.esper.net #AMW) and through TG's. Walmington, Cassanos, Beddgelert, The Crooked Beat, Iansisle are all great sources of historical and military information. I'm the resident weather nerd who can give you synoptic reasoning for any weather event in your nation (or around it, providing it is within the RL climatological profile of your area).

As far as landmass, as one of the two resident cartographers of AMW, I can tell you that all of Australia is free, or you can claim a portion of it, or New Zealand. Just remember, your population will be the RL population of whatever landmass you claim, your natural resources are what your landmass has IRL, and your geographic profile is as it would be for that landmass IRL.
I'm for anything providing there's a bar.

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Cassanos
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Postby Cassanos » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:39 am

As usual, I quite agree with Chrin. Cologne, I validated your account on the offsite, so you should be good to go.
I have no problem with a Black Scare, though it probably wouldn't have affected Europe that much, aside from media outcries. Either way, it would be nice to have a nation that does not fall in our usual democracy/catholic autocracy/Celtic murderopolis categories.

As for nuclear weapons, Australia has certainly enough uranium to go around, and a sufficiently advanced nation might well choose to pursue development of a small nuclear arsenal. Perhaps other nations were willing to lend a hand here in exchange for loads of sweet, sweet uranium.

Regarding ruthlessly bitchy female heads of state, sure. That sounds interesting to RP with. Chrin is right, we don't have too many of those - though technically, Nibelunc's head of state is a woman. It's just that the head of government makes most of the decisions.
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Acadzia
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Postby Acadzia » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:33 pm

Sweet, yeah. I have nothing to add, Cologne. I love your app and am excited. I'll be your neighbour, Atlantis (the island of Sumatra and some of the smaller islands around it.) Welcome to AMW, and to the South Pacific specifically!

Regarding GBR... I dunno, seems like y'all are being a little harsh. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I seem to recall a lot of people being all "If your spelling/grammar isn't great, we'll be patient as long as you're trying," and things of that nature. I see nothing wrong with GBRs application right now. Yes, it's vague, but I think a lot of us forget how hard it is to be, er, not vague, when stepping into AMW for the first time.

Anyway, GBR, I'd take some of Chrin's questions to heart. AMW has its own unique history, and sometimes newcomers can take that for granted. That doesn't mean you can't do a nation you may have had in mind, it just means you might need another way to go about it.
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Great Banana Republic
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Postby Great Banana Republic » Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:46 pm

Chrinthania wrote:Holy new applications, Batman!

Hi there, all. I'm Chrinthania. I play the Western Roman Empire and the Democratic Republic of Icarie (NC, SC, VA). First of all, I want to thank you all for your interest in A Modern World. It's really nice to see people who are interested in our little group and who feel they have something to contribute.

Here's what I have to say about the new applications:

Cologne, I like what I see. It is rather bare-bones, but I'd rather have a decent bare-bones application that has tons of potential than a feature-length novel application without any sustenance whatsoever. We can hammer out details between us as the process moves along. That being said, I'm really interested in seeing a bit more information. Probably best to give some details about how the government works and a very rough historical outline (don't worry about getting our history wrong, we'll point out the differences quickly enough).

Again, Cologne, I like what I see and hope to see you as a thriving member of our community!

GBR.....

In the Opening Post of this thread, there is a link to an example application that we feel is representative of the likes of which we'd want to see. The idea of having something "Like the US Government, but different" doesn't really work unless we have more information to digest and understand.

Great Banana Republic wrote:Take 2

Government: Similar to the US government, although there are some differences. For one thing, there's no Senate, only House of Representatives. Also, it's a liberal paradise. Marajuana is legal, and people are pretty much free to do whatever, but if they go into business, they are strictly regulated.

Economy: Mainly our economy is focused on the production and sale of bananas on a large scale. It's the cash-crop of this country.


I have no idea what that all means. It's too vague, too limited in scope, and not really descriptive enough. We want to be introduced to your nation, not given a Cliff's Notes version of what it is. I suggest you take a look at other applications in this thread which have been approved. Also, do some research on the CIA World Factbook and read how the CIA describes nations.

History: Brazil used to be a nice place to live in. I mean, a really nice place. Wonderful beaches and hot babes. That all changed when president Alice Santos came to power. She turned Brazil's democracy into a dictatorship.. An uprising, led by Bruno Ribeiro sought to combat this, however, the southern part was loyal to Alice. Thus, the Brazilian Civil War began. After a long and bloody conflict, the north finally gained it's independence.. The most common crop grown was, you guessed it, bananas, and thus, the country was named after it's cash crop. Influenced by the surrounding Spanish speaking countries, the dialect slowly changed from Portuguese to Spanish. The fledgling nation had a strong economy at first, and purchased some territory from Peru. However, 12 years later, the nation entered an economic recession similar to that of The Great Depression. With no other choice, president Luiz Martins had to sell the northeastern part of the country to other nations, and use the money to attempt to fix the recession. The country has only just recently recovered.

Culture: Although the government is avowedly atheist, the majority of the populace is Catholic. Most of the people here are extremely nice. If you were poor, and knocked on the door of a random house, and begged for food, chances are, you'd be invited for dinner with the family, and if you're really lucky, you'd be invited to stay the night and have breakfast too. With friendly people and excellent beaches, the country is an excellent place to have a vacation.

Military: We have a fairly large military, we are a free country, but we are willing to protect that freedom, and, if push comes to shove, we are not afraid to fight

Territory: Can I have all of the unclaimed portion pf the Northern and Northeastern regions of Brazil with the exception of Rodonia please?Also, I'd like the unclaimed portions of the Peruvian provinces of Loreto and Ucayali.

Capital: Salvador (I realized Manaus isn't part of the territory I claimed)

President: Luiz Martins

Languages spoken: mainly Spanish (Yes, I know Brazil speaks Portuguese)

Better? If there's any problems, I'll try to fix them


Erm, now, as for the application itself. Well, you're assuming there's a Spain and a Portugal in the RL life sense. That didn't happen IRL. The Western Roman Empire never fell and lives on today containing Italy, Portugal, and most of Spain, plus several smaller territories nearby and around the world. Also, I don't want to sound stand-off-ish or rude, but, I really don't care about hot babes and beautiful beaches. There's tons of places in AMW that have that already. When I read a history, I want to know important historical events. When did the Romans (read Spanish, Portuguese) arrive? How did they colonize and conquer the land? When was the republic formed? When did Santos come to power? How did that happen? What was going on in the nation around that time? Why was there an uprising? Bananas only? Isn't there more to your economy than that?

GBR... really, I can't lend support to your application because it really isn't what we're looking for. Feel free to apply again, but, at this time, I have to vote no.



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I'll try to fix it and make a better one, but I can't do it at the moment. Tomorrow, I leave for a vacation, and I won't be back till June 29th, and I will have zero internet access. However, while I'm there, I will be thinking about this, creating a better history for this nation, and when I get back, I'll submit an improved application.

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Chrinthania
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Postby Chrinthania » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:21 am

It's cool, GBR. I like your tenacity. I'm not trying to get anyone angry, just so ya know. I'm not picky about grammar or spelling, for the most part. Most of us aren't. I just think that you have more in your history than what you're showing and there seems to be something going on that could be interesting. Think of it as a person. You have to introduce them to us in such a way that we get the feeling of what kind of person they are, what they look like, how they talk, how they walk, how tough they are, and how much they're worth.

As I have said in the past, I will take a good application that's bare-bones over one that's lengthy and not really piquing my interest. Again, my best suggestion is that you take a gander over at the CIA World Factbook and see how they describe a nation. It isn't lengthy, hits the high points, and gives a more and is easy to digest.
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Postby National Socialist City of Cologne » Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:28 am

Cassanos wrote:As for nuclear weapons, Australia has certainly enough uranium to go around, and a sufficiently advanced nation might well choose to pursue development of a small nuclear arsenal. Perhaps other nations were willing to lend a hand here in exchange for loads of sweet, sweet uranium.

Mwuahah..Hah..Hah..
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Postby Jatriqya and Hoya » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:45 pm

Hi everyone, basically this application is for in a sense a second nation for me, however it's also a collaboration between Chemaki and I in order to get a little more interaction between our two countries, and a little more life in our area :P Also a way to get me a little bit back into AMW.

Associated State of Kutch
Συνδεδεμένο κράτος της κυτς
ڪڇ

Associated State of the Eastern Roman Empire


Location: 4 districts of Gujarat: Rajkot, Jamnagar, Surendranagar, Kutch
Population: 8,112,829
GDP per Capita: 11,249
GDP: 91,261,213,421
Capital: Bhuj, βυτζ, ڀڄ
Head of the Council:
Government: Republic
Languages: Greek and Sindhi (Official), Pashto, Arabic (Minority)
Population origin: 44% Greek, 40% Sindhi, 8% Pashto, 4% Arab, 4% Roman

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Government:
Kutch is governed by a Council of 15 Councilmen, who elect one of the Councilmen to Head of the Council. Both the Eastern Roman Empire and the Federated Islamic States are accorded an observer councilman.

As an Associated State of both the Eastern Roman Empire, Kutch does not have control over certain aspects of government. Kutch does not have a army, rather it is under the joint-military control of the Federated Islamic States and the Eastern Roman Empire, both of which maintain a permanent navel presence in the Gulf of Kutch. Additionally, as per the 1984 Accords over the Sovereignty of Kutch, the Federated Islamic States maintain a permanent ground base in Kutch.

The Government of Kutch is responsible for domestic politics, with occasional decisions being swayed by the influence of both the ERE or the FIS. International representation of the state is made through either the FIS, or the ERE – whereas in Beddgelert Kutch would rely on the FIS, in Rome Kutch would rely of the ERE. By the 1984 Agreements, Kutch is a Free-Trade zone with both the FIS and the ERE.


History:
The Islamic Emirate of Kutch first came into contact with the Eastern Roman Empire in the late 14th Century. Kutch was a convenient stop after Muscat on the way to Asia. By the early 17th Century, the presence of the Romans in the area had increased to such a point where the Islamic Emirate ceded in perpetuity the Port of Kandla and the surrounding area. Kandla, with a steady stream of Greek merchants in the region, steadily grew to a point where the Emir of Kutch agreed to become a part of the Empire in the late 17th. By the mid-18th Century, at a time when the FIS were more interested in the Arab states, Kutch was fully integrated into the Eastern Roman Empire, and was the main port of call for Greek trading in the region.

Fast forward to the late 20th, 200 years after Kutch became a part of the Empire. On the other side of the Rann of Kutch, a revolution is taking place. In 1952, the Federated Islamic States captured the Free City of Muscat, another important Greek trading-city in the region. At the time, the dictator Yasir of the FIS was expanding his power over the Gulf. In response, the Empire solidified its position in Kutch, keeping the territory neutral, although Kutch, along with the Empire, condemned violations in the FIS against Greeks, as well as the annexation of Muscat. In the 70s, the FIS invaded Yemen. The population of Kutch, now increasingly cosmopolitan and multicultural, worried about the dictatorship across the Rann. While opposed to the politics of Yasir, those in Kutch, whether they be Greek or not, avoided attracting the attention of the FIS. The deposition of the dictator of the FIS in 1976 spelled the end of the Byzantine rule of Kutch.

The Byzantines, which had long avoided much talk with the FIS dictatorship, in the interests of protecting the freedoms of those in Kutch, found itself in an uncomfortable position with the liberalization of the FIS. Between 1976 and 1984, the FIS and the ERE engaged in a series of talks that ended in the 1984 Accords over the Sovereignty of Kutch. The Agreement was divided into multiple parts, with the intention of increasing cooperation between the two large neighbors. The Byzantines sought to protect the interests of the Greeks living in the FIS, and in Kutch. With the 1984 Agreements, the ERE accorded sovereignty to the Associated State of Kutch, with joint-military access to both the FIS and the ERE, as well as free-trade. In counterpart, the FIS agreed to non-discrimination against Greeks living in the FIS, the FIS agreed to the sovereignty of the Associated State of Kutch, and the ERE guaranteed the rights of muslim citizens in the Empire.


People:
Today, Kutch is lives in an in-between. During the dictatorship of Yasir, citizens of the FIS, mainly but not entirely Greeks, fled to Kutch through the border. These immigrants fled religious and political oppression in the FIS. This only added to the cosmopolitanism of the region. However, since the revolution in the FIS, and campaigns from the FIS to bring people home, migration has moved back towards the now-richer FIS. Citizens of Kutch can easily move to both the FIS and the ERE, as they have the right of abode in both countries.


Economy:
The economy in Kutch is focused on trading and shipping, with one of the largest ports in the region. The port is also a major military facility for the FIS and the ERE. The economy in Kutch also benefits from large exports of salt from the Rann of Kutch. The population is slowly migrating to the cities, and many families receive remittances from family in the FIS.


Let me know what you all think!

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